kleinhond 11.12.2004 14:49 |
Can anyone help me find a list of who really wrote the Queen credited compositions on Innuendo, Miracle etc.... Also, is Let Me Live really a Freddie vocal from the demo duet with Rod Stewart in 1982?! |
The Fairy King 11.12.2004 15:34 |
Google is your best friend |
Sebastian 11.12.2004 17:04 |
Obviously more than one person contributed, e.g. Fred contributed with structure and perhaps some key changes and stuff, they all had input in lyrics and arrangements, etc. But the main writer would be: Party - F Kashoggi's - Unconfirmed Miracle - F I Want It All - B Invisible - R Breakthru - F (intro) & R (song) Rain Must Fall - J (music) & F (melody & lyrics) Scandal - B&F (music), B (lyrics) My Baby Does Me - J&F (music), F (lyrics) Was It All Worth It - F Hang On In There - F Stealin' - F Chinese Torture - B Hijack - R Innuendo - F (music), F&R (lyrics) Headlong - B I Can'T Live With You - B Slightly Mad - F Delilah - F Hitman - F Bijou - F Don't Try So Hard - F (lyrics), F&B (music) Ride The Wild Wind - R Days Of Our Lives - R All God's People - F & Mike Moran Show Must Go On - B You Don't Fool Me - J&R (music), F (lyrics) Mother Love - B (music), F (lyrics) Winter's Tale - F |
brENsKi 11.12.2004 17:39 |
christ i must be really ignorant...i thought Roger had some credit in it |
geeksandgeeks 11.12.2004 18:28 |
link |
deleted user 11.12.2004 18:42 |
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Serry... 11.12.2004 19:40 |
Sebastian wrote: Party - F Kashoggi's - Unconfirmed Miracle - F I Want It All - B Invisible - R Breakthru - F (intro) & R (song) Rain Must Fall - J (music) & F (melody & lyrics) Scandal - B&F (music), B (lyrics) My Baby Does Me - J&F (music), F (lyrics) Was It All Worth It - F Hang On In There - F Stealin' - F Chinese Torture - B Hijack - R Innuendo - F (music), F&R (lyrics) Headlong - B I Can'T Live With You - B Slightly Mad - F Delilah - F Hitman - F Bijou - F Don't Try So Hard - F (lyrics), F&B (music) Ride The Wild Wind - R Days Of Our Lives - R All God's People - F & Mike Moran Show Must Go On - B You Don't Fool Me - J&R (music), F (lyrics) Mother Love - B (music), F (lyrics) Winter's Tale - FSebastian, how about My Life Has Been Saved, It's A Beautiful Day and Let Me Live? |
The Fairy King 11.12.2004 19:54 |
Beautiful Day - Freddie Let Me Live - Freddie or Queen not sure My Life Has Been Saved - John |
kleinhond 12.12.2004 08:38 |
Thanks for the info guys. I made my way down the list and it confirmed to me what I had always known - that Freddie was always my favourite Queen writer, followed by Roger, until I got to The Show Must Go On. I can't believe it - Brian wrote those wonderful lyrics?!? It's one of my all time top 3 fave Queen songs and I'd never been that fond of Brian's tracks, I have to be honest - I Want It All, Tie Your Mother Down, WWRY, Headlong - not songs I care for much at all. I now have to revise my opinion of the man! Is Let Me Live a Hot Space outtake??? |
Roy ® 12.12.2004 10:18 |
<font color="crimson"><b>ThomasQuinn</b> wrote: Wasn't 'I Can't Live With You' a John song?On Brians site Don't Try So Hard is also credited to John. |
M. 12.12.2004 11:21 |
credits from Brian's site: My Life Has Been Saved: "Words and music by Brian May - credited to Queen" Rain Must Fall: "Words and music by Queen (John Deacon)" Scandal: "Words and music by Brian May - credited to Queen" Innuendo: "Words and music by Queen (Roger Taylor)" I Can't Live With You: "Words and music by Queen (Brian May)" link |
Serry... 12.12.2004 18:16 |
The Fairy King wrote: Let Me Live - Freddie or Queen not sureAnd maybe Rod Stewart... |
M. 12.12.2004 18:28 |
I forgot one... The Hitman: "Words and music by Queen (Brian May)" |
egret 12.12.2004 21:21 |
kleinhond wrote: Thanks for the info guys. I made my way down the list and it confirmed to me what I had always known - that Freddie was always my favourite Queen writer, followed by Roger, until I got to The Show Must Go On. I can't believe it - Brian wrote those wonderful lyrics?!? It's one of my all time top 3 fave Queen songs and I'd never been that fond of Brian's tracks, I have to be honest - I Want It All, Tie Your Mother Down, WWRY, Headlong - not songs I care for much at all. I now have to revise my opinion of the man!I agree with you about Brian, but you gotta admit, when he's good, he's really really good. --Egret |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 00:45 |
M. your on the ball, you corrected a few mistakes i noticed. like rain must fall being a deacon song and so on. in the later years freddie didn't write to much cos of his illness, and it's obviouse he wouldn't have wrote a song like the hit man while being sick, that was all brian. |
Daburcor? 13.12.2004 01:18 |
I've always thought that "Was It All Worth It?" SCREAMED "Freddie". |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 03:48 |
The credits in Brian's site are from the webmaster, not from him, I guess he never checked if they're correct. Otoh interviews confirm several other things about those songs: in GVHII DVD Brian said that Scandal was "particularly Freddie & particularly me", in a Guitar Magazine in October 1994 he confirmed Was It All Worth It is Freddie's, also at the Sunset Strip Hotel in 1991 he said Fred wrote Hitman. In his soapbox, when he was asked something about My Life Has Been Saved two years ago he answered "you should ask John". And so on. About Show, it's not 100% Brian. It's, vaguely, 60% from him. The sequence is Roger's and John's, Freddie also participated in the process, Brian confirmed in the 1994 interview that after R&J played the sequence B&F sat down and they two decided the theme of the song and wrote the first verse. From then on there was a lot of input of they four (plus the producer) but I listed Brian as writer as he was the one who coordinated the "operative". Similar case as Bijou: it's 65% Fred, 35% Brian, so if you credit it to May/Mercury, it's also correct |
Lord Blackadder 13.12.2004 06:30 |
No way is Bijou mostly from Freddie. |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 06:32 |
Let's see: Title- Freddie Lyrics - Freddie Chord progressions - Freddie Keyboard parts - Freddie Guitar melodies - Freddie & Brian. In fact Brian confirmed Fred sang the first part of the guitar melody to him and afterwards they both worked on it together Therefore, it IS more Freddie than Brian |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 06:35 |
in the later years freddie didn't write to much cos of his illnessIn fact Fred was the dominant songwriter in later years. Note the post Innuendo songs: 1 of them was written by him, the others were him + someone. |
Rune 13.12.2004 12:30 |
I always thought Show Must Go On and These Are The Days.. had some Freddie input. I mean it's strange that to "ordinary" guys like Brian and Roger could write such deep and painfull lyrics - both songs tells a Freddie Mercury story ! |
markaw 13.12.2004 15:57 |
Hey I can answer the question...............Freddie, Brian, Roger + John are the real writers of Queen songs...he! he! smart ass I know. |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 17:48 |
i always seen brian as the writer of "was it all worth" it and the" hitman" and bijou, i remember brian saying he had to fight tooth and nail to get bijou on innuendo, and brian also said freddie was unable or unwilling to write as much because he was sick, i'm not sure where your getting your information from, but i think your wrong, though anything is possible. |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 18:00 |
Again... Hitman - Brian confirmed it in an interview at the Sunset Strip Hotel in 1991. Fred wrote the thing, then Brian & John arranged it (hence the load of guitars). Was It All Worth It - Producer David Richards confirmed it was Freddie. Moreover Brian also said it in Guitar Magazine October 1994 Bijou - Read Brian's Soapbox where he says how Fred sang the first melody part of Bijou, and how they both had the idea of making the song inside out (vocals in the middle, guitar in the "verses"). David Richards also confirmed the chord progressions, keyboard parts and the title came from Freddie. The rest was a collaboration between the two of them. > I mean it's strange that to "ordinary" guys like Brian and Roger could write such deep and painfull lyrics - both songs tells a Freddie Mercury story ! It isn't. Remember they also were in a painful situation: they were losing a friend. The lyrics might be telling the Freddie Mercury story, but it doesn't mean Freddie wrote them. Note how Bernie Taupin wrote fabulous verses about Marilyn Monroe. |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 18:11 |
i know, the show must go on was brian, brian say's it's his orginal tribute to fred, that's why the lyrics were so deep, it was about a great friend. Was it all worth it, i'll take your word for it because i never heard brian say who wrote that one. a song like the hitman, i remember hearing a bootleg of it and brian was singing and basically writing the song, and innuendo was always considered rogers with some help from fred. |
Lester Burnham 13.12.2004 18:14 |
Sebastian, I believe Brian said 'Scandal' was his but was written about events involving the press with Freddie and him, and to a lesser extent, Roger. |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 18:37 |
Actually it's a hard job to name "one" writer, as I said, everybody contributed to the songs. But, since I like this topic so much, I can add some musical comments: -------------------- WAS IT ALL WORTH IT: Besides the fact that Brian & David confirmed it's Freddie, there are interesting cross-references with Mercury pieces: - The riff progression (i > VII > VI > V) is a variant of a cadence that is present in several Freddie's songs: Barcelona, Fallen Priest, It's A Hard Life, Liar, Great King Rat. Btw Innuendo and Bijou also have that cadence - Note the melody of the first orchestral spacer and you'll see how it's a staccatto variant of "fairy dandy tickling the fancy". - Note the octave bass synth part at the end of the same section. It's got exactly the same notes as the ostinato bass-piano-guitar tritonic riff in Death On Two Legs, only that it's transposed by a step - The songform consists of long cycles with strategically positioned section variants, and is surprisingly similar to Staying Power in that matter - There's an instrumental spacer that each time gets busier, just like Staying Power, Love Of My Life, Take My Breath Away, Fallen Priest, La Japonaise and The Millionaire Waltz - Again structure-wise, there's one section which stays unvaried and with fixed position in all cycles, just like Jesus, Mad The Swine, Flick Of The Wrist, You Take My Breath Away, Barcelona, How Can I Go On, Somebody To Love, Get Down Make Love, Jealousy, Let Me Entertain You, Don't Stop Me Now, Play The Game, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, It's A Hard Life, Man On The Prowl, Don't Try So Hard. - One of the intros is used several times in the song as pre-verse. While Brian used to repeat it exactly the same ( Good Company, Tie Your Mother Down, Night Comes Down, Sweet Lady, Son And Daughter), Freddie used variants (Great King Rat, Liar, Seven Seas Of Rhye, Stone Cold Crazy, You Take My Breath Away, The Millionaire Waltz, Get Down Make Love, Jealousy, Body Language, Under Pressure, Friends Will Be Friends, I'm Going Slightly Mad) - Intro I has, besides the voice, a synth pad fading in. What's it doing? Backwards Intro II!. So actually we have four variations of one intro (plus one backwards version of it) during the song. Brian used to reprise intros, but not in varied forms. That was something very Freddie-esque: Great King Rat, Liar, Ogre Battle (also including backwards) Flick Of The Wrist, The Millionaire Waltz, Jealousy, Keep Passing The Open Windows, Princes Of The Universe. - The orchestral interlude consists of chromatic scale fragments, which, transposed, are exactly the same as the second part of the intro of Great King Rat. More Freddie's songs with chromatic scale fragments are Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon, Seaside Rendezvous, Bring Back That Leroy Brown and Love Of My Life. - During one of the bridges ("... we love you madly") there's an ascending orchestral part done in octaves by the string section. It's almost identical to the one in The Miracle. Only the intervals are different (and the key of course): In Was It All Worth It they're 1 2b 3 6, in The Miracle they're 1 2 3 6. Same album, same composer. Last but not least a quote: Brian (1998): "It had it's great sides as well, I mean, there was great joy there, strangely enough because of what the studio gave us. It had always been a safe place for us. Yes, we argued and tore each other to bits, but, the world was kept out and that was very precious to Freddie through all that time, I think. He loved it, he had a ball, you know. You can hear things like, Was It All Worth It and Winter's Tale and stuff, he's just really flowing out; and, um, in some ways it was a joy to be part of that. Very pure." ------------------------ INNUENDO: Well, Brian confirmed in that Magazine in Oct '94 that the lyrics were started off by Freddie, and Roger did the rest of them. And Brian |
Serry... 13.12.2004 18:39 |
The great research work, Seb! As usually! |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 18:56 |
it's good to know some of this stuff, was it all worth it was by fred, for some reason i thought it was brians probably because it's a hard rock track, freddie didn't write to many of those in the later years. |
Serry... 13.12.2004 19:06 |
mike hunt wrote: it's good to know some of this stuff, was it all worth it was by fred, for some reason i thought it was brians probably because it's a hard rock track, freddie didn't write to many of those in the later years.Fred wrote 'Princes Of The Universe'... It's an usual mistake - hard-rock track relates to Brian, Roger's BVs - to Roger's ones... This scheme doesn't work sometimes. |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 19:30 |
mabe fred was returning to his roots on the miracle and innuendo, even slightly mad was in a style of his early work, sounds a bit like killer queen. |
Sebastian 13.12.2004 19:51 |
Yes, in fact Fred mentioned he liked the chord progression of The Miracle (the song), because it reminded him of Killer Queen. Btw, as for Hitman, the way the verse is more or less over the same chord (Am in this case) is very similar to the heavy section of Black Queen (the part they performed live) I confess the riff of Hitman sounded more Brian-esque to my ears due to the pentatonic fragments (check the vocal melodies of Dragon Attack and We Will Rock You and you'll know what I mean, also the melody of Keep Yourself Alive in the "conversation" part), but remember Freddie was also a big Hendrix and Led Zeppelin fan. The key shift is related to Let Me entertain You but I also find it a little more Brian-esque considering he did it more "that" way than Freddie. Note how Brian added key shifts to Freddie's solo songs in Made In Heaven, the formula is the same. Which again make me certain Fred wrote it, Brian arranged it. About Scandal, I suspect a lot of interaction since, as Brian said, the song was born in the studio. Fred's input could be melody-wise, structure-wise (three birdges is much more usual for him than Brian), and the key change moving one step. While Brian only did it once (No One But You, and he said in his soapbox that he did it as tribute to Freddie), that particular modulation was Mercury's signature, also very important for the band's "secret" sound in their songs (even if a listener isn't making diagrams of the keys used and the spectrum of the sound etc the brain does detect those devices). Songs by Freddie with that modulation are several, from his earlier efforts (Great King Rat, My Fairy King, perhaps Ogre Battle), then many more such as Bo Rhap, don't Stop Me, Beautiful Day, Jealousy, Killer Queen, Made In Heaven, Princes Of The Universe, Black Queen, and up to the end of his life with Slightly Mad and his last musical composition A Winter's Tale. It still doeasn't deny the fact that the remaining 75% of Scandal is still Brian's. |
My Melancholy Blues 13.12.2004 19:57 |
mike hunt wrote: mabe fred was returning to his roots on the miracle and innuendo, even slightly mad was in a style of his early work, sounds a bit like killer queen.I think so...when I heard slightly mad for the frist time, I soon reminded myself about some typical numbers being Freddie-esque( qoute from Sebastian's post, sorry ) made in early days of their career... |
kleinhond 13.12.2004 20:09 |
I'm really glad I started this topic - it's brought up some fascinating info about the Queen songwriting process :-) Does anyone think Slightly Mad would make a great cover for David Bowie LOL |
My Melancholy Blues 13.12.2004 21:38 |
Reading Sebastian's posts made me re-aware of Freddie's awesome works through his career and his amazing talent. Thank you for your great researches! |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 22:51 |
i second that, i was going by some of the articles i read on the internet, obviously he did a bit more research and came up with some good stuff. |
mike hunt 13.12.2004 23:12 |
brian may.com actually says something completly different, but did you see those ratings they gave for all those queen albums, horrible, every album got a low rating. |
My Melancholy Blues 13.12.2004 23:42 |
Me??? Anyway, I'll pay more attention to their archives and information and those rating, which would be sometimes tough though... |
mike hunt 14.12.2004 00:03 |
yea, M. on the first page has the website, you could check it out, whoever did those ratings can't be much of a queen fan. |
kleinhond 14.12.2004 08:43 |
Surely Brian has to OK these things? |
deleted user 14.12.2004 08:46 |
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brian_may_wannabe 14.12.2004 15:33 |
Brian and Freddie wrote Mother Love. |
Sebastian 14.12.2004 18:23 |
Btw I forgot to add these five: Stone Cold Crazy - Freddie ? (considering it was a Wreckage track) Hangman - Fred (lyrics) & Brian (chords) Soul Brother - Fred Under Pressure - Fred (music), Fred & David (lyrics & melody) One Vision - Roger (lyrics) & Brian (music) |
kleinhond 14.12.2004 18:53 |
STC a Wreckage track? What do u mean? It's jointly credited to all four Queen boys. Why would they credit all four on pre-Miracle songs when only one or two of them wrote a track (One Vision for instance). John also came up with the bassline for UP, obviously..... Bowie the breadhead certainly wouldn't have agreed to split the writing royalities with all four unless they all contributed to the process.... |
Sebastian 14.12.2004 23:43 |
John himself said that it was David who came up with the bass-line. One Vision and the others are cases in which all contributed, like Show Must Go On or Innuendo, but like Show Must Go On or Innuendo, there is still a main songwriter Btw correct me if I'm wrong but in a Bowie/Queen credit he would receive 50% of the publishing royalties. So if it's Bowie/Mercury or Bowie/Queen he doesn't mind, he gets the same. If it was Bowie/Mercury/May/Taylor/Deacon then it'd be different because he'd get only 20% |
mike hunt 15.12.2004 00:03 |
you still didn't say why the brian may site is conflicting with you on who wrote what songs. |
Sebastian 15.12.2004 00:51 |
As Philipp said, the "Brian" list isn't made by him, it's from the earliest version of the website, which was either based on suppositions or copied from the QMS "definitive list" done some years ago, in which they declared the songwriters as: - Party: All the band except Roger (he commented on an interview in 1989 that he wasn't present when the song arose) - Kashoggi's: Unconfirmed - Miracle: Queen (Fred commented they all contributed to the lyrics, unfortunately they forgot to listen to several other interviews in which Fred, Brian, Roger or David Richards clear that the song is Freddie's) - I Want It All: Brian (based on the fact he sang part of it, which isn't a really strong argument but in this case they were right) - Invisible Man: Roger. Fortunately the interview they had included when the interviewer asked who wrote that and both Freddie and Brian said "Roger". So they got this one right - Breakthru: Fred (intro) & Roger (song). That was also cleared in the Queen For An Hour Interview which was almost their only source - My Baby Does Me: Fred & John. Same interview as source - Scandal: Brian. They were based on the fact that in a 1989 interview to Roger and Brian in a limo, they were asked about the story of the song and Roger turned to Brian and said "I think this is yours". So they got that one right as well - Rain Must Fall: The Queen For An Hour interview had a part in which Roger said he had put more percussion but the band made him take some of that out to make some room for vocals and guitars. He never said he wrote it but the people in QMS misunderstood the quote and creditted the song to him. Btw recently Brian was asked about the song and said "very much a Deacon area". - Was It All Worth It: The guys did talk some stuff about the song in the For An Hour interview but they never said who wrote it. Hence, the QMS people just assumed Brian because it had a lot of guitar work (ridiculous argument) - Hang On In There: Assumption again - Stealin': They creditted it to Roger because the "in charge of my heart" part is very similar to some part of a Cross song. In that case they went too far since the remaining 95% of the song is different - Hijack My Heart: To be honest this one hasn't been "officially" cleared yet. They (we) assume it's Roger's based on the fact he sings it and the basic musical structure and chords. - Innuendo: Apparently in a '91 interview Roger said most of the lyrics are from him. That brought QMS to credit everything to him, which is just absurd. - Headlong & I Can't Live: Brian confirmed he wrote both of them for his solo album, so they got that pair right - Slightly Mad: They creditted it to Freddie since Jim Hutton mentioned in his book how he had the idea of most of the lyrics after a night wild session with Peter Straker. They did get this one right, considering musical analysis corresponds to Freddie as well as several quotes by Brian, Roger and the producer - Ride The Wild Wind: Assumed it's Roger's because he sang it in his solo tour. Ridiculous argument because he also did I Want To Break Free. But, in this case, the song happens to be from him. So they luckily got that one right too - The Hitman: They didn't have quotes so they assummed it's Brian's due to the guitars (again, pointless argument, for that matter Prophet's Song is Fred's because it has a lot of vocals). That led them to assume it was also for Back To The Light so they said the three heavies (this one + Headlong & ICLWY) were for his solo album. - Show Must Go On: Creditted it to Brian since he said it was his "baby" in several interviews and stuff. They did get that one right as well - Delilah: Freddie wrote marvelous songs for Innuendo, and one of the few ones that the QMS people recognised to him was the weakest of them, this one. - All God's People: Claimed |
mike hunt 15.12.2004 01:40 |
thanks, seems to make sense, alot of it was asumed, i do know about most of the songs, like a winters tale, and the miricle being freds, but some surprises like "try so hard" i always thought was john, that was the site i remember looking at all those years ago, where i thought i learned who wrote what song and being a bit disapointed fred didn't write much, i'm not to crazy about that site anyway, they gave some great albums some bad ratings. |
kleinhond 15.12.2004 05:58 |
''Let Me Live: I seem to remember somebody creditted it to Roger because he sang more lines than Brian...'' But aren't those the lines original sung by Rod Stewart? Doesn't mean anything really (tho I was always surprised Freddie didn't sing the third verse) |
Sebastian 15.12.2004 06:32 |
No idea, since I've never heard the Rod Stewart thing. It could be anything, maybe only 5% of the song is the same, and the lyrics and/or music could be re-written afterwards. |
deleted user 15.12.2004 09:05 |
Sebastian wrote: Btw correct me if I'm wrong but in a Bowie/Queen credit he would receive 50% of the publishing royalties. So if it's Bowie/Mercury or Bowie/Queen he doesn't mind, he gets the same. If it was Bowie/Mercury/May/Taylor/Deacon then it'd be different because he'd get only 20%In in reality it IS B/M/M/T/D. That's the way it's featured at the publisher's sites and with the Ice Ice Baby-credits, for example. The way credits are printed (like with or without slash, using Queen or their individual names etc...) on the sleeve does not necessarily reflect the exact actual distribution of royalties. Under Pressure originated from a lengthy jam session. So they took the approach that is usually taken when improvised jams are released on record: "Songwriting" is shared evenly between all participants. See "Impromptu" or "Blues Breaker", for instance. |
mrbadguy86 15.12.2004 18:22 |
christian: you made MANY mistakes when you listen up the names of the writers! Kashoggi's : Roger Taylor! Stealin' : Brian May! The Hitman : Brian May! Hang On In There : Mercury and May! Innuendo : Roger Taylor(most of it) and maybe Mercury! You don't Fool Me : John Deacon! And you forgot: It's A Beautiful Day : Freddie Mercury! My Life Has Been Saved : Mercury(?) and Deacon(?) My Baby Does Me : Mercury and Taylor! Chinese Torture : Brian May! Human Body : Roger Taylor! One Vision : Mercury, Taylor and May! Thank God it's Christmas : May and Taylor! |
mrbadguy86 15.12.2004 18:24 |
and...All God's People was originally a song from Mercury's solo project in the late eighties, with Moran! and Let Me Live is made by Mercyry and Taylor I think;) |
kleinhond 15.12.2004 20:56 |
WEll I have deduced two things today: firstly, Bowie did a lot more of the writing and formulating and finalising ideas (see Brian on the GHV2 commentary of UP) than I realised, and, thus, robbed himself of a bigger sharre of the publishing royalties. He wasn't quite the businessman back in '81 that he is today! secondly, John Deacon did very nicely out of the last three Queen albums, publishing wise, considring he wrote so little. |
Sebastian 15.12.2004 22:46 |
Here we go again: > Kashoggi's : Roger Taylor! Any proof? > Stealin' : Brian May! Mack commented in an interview for a German Magazinein 2000 that Fred had called him in '89 to comment he was working on a song called Stealin' and the way he wrote and arranged it owed a lot to the work Fred & Mack did together in Munich (The Game - Mr Bad Guy). So it's Freddie's > The Hitman : Brian May! Brian confirmed Fred wrote it and he (and John) arranged it. Btw it still doesn't mean 100% of it is Freddie's, Brian could have contributed with, for instance, lyrics, or one of the choruses, etc. John and Roger theoretically could have also written some lines. > Hang On In There : Mercury and May! According to the producer, it's Freddie > Innuendo : Roger Taylor(most of it) and maybe Mercury! Read the analysis again. Roger did write (most of) the lyrics, but not the music. Way beyond him. > You don't Fool Me : John Deacon! According to the producer, it's Freddie & Roger. > It's A Beautiful Day : Freddie Mercury! Yes > My Life Has Been Saved : Mercury(?) and Deacon(?) The producer (and Brian indirectly) confirmed it's Deacon > My Baby Does Me : Mercury and Taylor! At the BBC interview done to the four band members, they were asked about that song, Brian said that the answer was at the other side of the table (referring to Freddie & John). Then Freddie said that the song is from John & himself. Roger was there all the time, so if he had co-written it he would have said so. But he didn't, therefore it's Freddie and John. > Chinese Torture : Brian May! Unless the orchestral sound in the intro is by someone else. Might be. > Human Body : Roger Taylor! Yes but it's not creditted to Queen. It's like listing Love Of My Life or Keep Yourself Alive > Thank God it's Christmas : May and Taylor! Ditto > One Vision : Mercury, Taylor and May! Yes although Fred's part imo was more concerning arrangements and production that actual writing, that's why I consider it to be a May/Taylor composition. ------------ Yes John did benefited a lot with that rule. And the one who "lost" was Freddie, who was the dominant songwriter and not only had to share 75% of the publishing of his songs with the rest, but also, as you can read in this forum and many websites, many of his songs aren't even considered from him (e.g. Innuendo, Was It All Worth It, Hang On In There) thanks to that stupid rule. PS: It's just opinion, I don't want to start another thread over that :) |
Lester Burnham 15.12.2004 22:59 |
It's a good thing mrbadguy86 read the thread! ! !! . |
M. 15.12.2004 23:42 |
Sebastian, many thanks for your great work/website and especially for your posts! I have some (pedantic) questions... "Rain Must Fall - J (music) & F (melody & lyrics)" "My Baby Does Me - J&F (music), F (lyrics)" "You Don't Fool Me - J&R (music), F (lyrics)" As you have quoted above Brian said that Rain Must Fall is "very much a Deacon area". Why do you believe that Freddie wrote the lyrics of this song (and of MBDM & YDFM as well)? "Don't Try So Hard - F (lyrics), F&B (music)" Is there any confirmation by someone from the band (or David Richards)? |
Sebastian 16.12.2004 02:25 |
For the four songs it was David Richards who said that. Btw Brian's comment was concerning a question he received about the music, so it's reasonable that if John contributed with half or more of it, it'd be "very much a Deacon area" and it still wouldn't exclude the others to contribute (all of, most of, part of) the lyrics. |
kleinhond 16.12.2004 20:18 |
Sebastian, I agree about what you've aid re: Freddie losing out on a lot of royalties on those last albums, but have always felt that, generous man that he could be, he knew he was dying and was not going to be around to spend that money. |
Sebastian 16.12.2004 23:23 |
It makes some sense: more money for Brian, Roger and John, less for Mary Austin. Poor little Mary... |
mike hunt 16.12.2004 23:46 |
yea, poor mary, she only recieved most of freds fortune. |
Want To Live Forever 17.12.2004 00:36 |
yeah, Mike Moran and Spike E. too |
kleinhond 19.12.2004 20:28 |
why would those two guys get a share of fred's fortune??? |