| FairyQueen 10.12.2004 15:42 |
In my history class, out teacher wants us to bring in a song that shows the social attitudes during a certain era or time..something that reflect social conflict or issues...I want to bring in a Queen song but, I am not sure what to bring in...I was thinking of Hammer to Fall because it supposedly represents the fall of communism..I'm not sure...any suggestions? |
| kohuept 10.12.2004 16:20 |
HtF is great, also... Put Out the Fire - gun control, Lennon's murder White Man - the overtaking of native lands Seaside Rendezvous - a big date...OK maybe not |
| The Mir@cle 10.12.2004 16:25 |
Is This The World We Created - The poorness in Africa in the middle eighties (Think of Life AID). Queen wasn't a band who projected a strong political message... It would be hard to find more songs. |
| Agnieszeq 10.12.2004 16:43 |
So maybe Roger's "Nazis" ? |
| Serry... 10.12.2004 19:44 |
Working Class Hero though it's not Queen song... Well, maybe Roger's Revelation? |
| Agnieszeq 10.12.2004 20:08 |
Some non-Queen propositions: Scorpions- "Wind Of Change" Sex Pistols- "God Save The Queen" Sex Pistols- "Anarchy In The UK" Manic Street Preachers "A Design For Life" and most of the U2 songs ;-) |
| deleted user 10.12.2004 20:12 |
Does the song have to be political?? if not, how about "I want it All" It represented the excess of the era. If it does have to be political, try "White Man" (or BoRhap, since no one knows the real meaning you can make it mean anything you want it to) A non-Queen suggestion: John Lennon's "Imagine" or "Five to One" by the Doors |
| Melancholy Blues 10.12.2004 20:16 |
hammer to fall: Toe your line and play their game yeah Let the anaesthetic cover it all Till one day they call your name You know it's time for the hammer to fall Rich or poor or famous For your truth it's all the same (oh no oh no) Lock your door the rain is pouring Through your window pane (oh no) Baby now your struggle's all in vain For we who grew up tall and proud In the shadow of the mushroom cloud Convinced our voices can't be heard We just wanna scream it louder and louder louder |
| FairyQueen 11.12.2004 00:09 |
Thanks for the suggestions...Now I'm deciding between "Hammer to Fall" and "Is this the World We Created"....I might also consider "White Man" |
| deleted user 11.12.2004 01:00 |
In that case, let me suggest "Is This the World We Created" as it could be easier to back up. You could even use the whole Live-Aid event to show the concern the whole world felt with the starvation in Africa that is refrenced in this song |
| boy of destiny 11.12.2004 02:29 |
White Man. "Man learned how to teach, then forgot how to learn." One of Brian's best lyrics. "You build your muscles as your body decays" from Hammer is also great. |
| FairyQueen 11.12.2004 13:30 |
I think I will use "Is this the World we Created" because it reflects the time very well..but, did Brian ever mention that "Hammer to Fall" was about communism?....it does represent the age of nuclear weapons very well too...both are very good songs...thank you very much for the suggestions... |
| gabriel79 11.12.2004 13:35 |
the ghost of tom joad-bruce springsteen |
| Leonardo Venegas 11.12.2004 15:41 |
I love White Man, it's a great and powerful song, good lyrics. One of my favourites. You should try this one. Good luck. What is left of your dreams? Just the words on your stone A man who learned how to teach Then forget how to learn. Oh Yeah! |
| The Fairy King 11.12.2004 15:46 |
White, Discussion by Live I talk of freedom You talk of the flag I talk of revolution You'd much rather brag And as the decibels of this disenchanting Discourse, continue to dampen the day The coin flips again, and again, and again, And again as our sanity walks away All this discussion Though politically correct Is dead beyond destruction Though it leaves me quite erect And as the final sunset rolls behind the Earth And the clock is finally dead I'll look at you, you'll look at me And we'll cry a lot But this will be what we said This will be what we said I warned you, I prepared you, I instructed you, I told you what to expect All the times and seasons... Look where all this talking got us, baby! You, yourselves know perfect That the day so cometh... |
| Lord Blackadder 11.12.2004 15:55 |
Hammer To Fall is about nuclear war, not Commusnism really. But it is still a great example of an era. But it was written after the event so maybe it doesn't fit quite in the context of the question. I would suggest Is This The World We Created? Perfect example. |
| FairyQueen 11.12.2004 16:04 |
I think I might choose "Is this the World we Created"...but, "White Man" might be a good one too since we're learning about the civil war...hmm..tough decision...but I think I'll stick to "Is this the World we Created".. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 16:16 |
Queen does not have many political songs to choose from...and I'm not going to list them when everyone has listed them at LEAST five times. If you decide not to go with a Queen song, the best 'political songs' can be found with Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, John Lennon, and so much more. 'Working Class Hero' is actually a John Lennon song too. Cheers |
| FairyQueen 11.12.2004 16:32 |
I know all those other people have political songs..but people in my class know who they are...everyone will probably pick a beatle song but..will they pick a Queen one? It'll be nice for people in my school to listen to something different for once and not always associate Queen with "We will Rock You"....but, it's actually quite suprising in my school that some people know quite a few things about Queen...anyways..thanks for the suggestions and advice my fellow queenzoners! |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 17:01 |
Lenningrad is a gooood song. The times they are a changin is awesome, but I agree with you. Someone is bound to choose it. But there are other Dylan songs that would be great too, if you can get them. Who Killed Davey Moore (why and what's the reason for?) However political, it might not pertain to a specific era you're teacher might be asking for. Universal soldier, but I'm sure you have heard of that one?! Well, good luck with it. *considering the imbeciles of today, if you were to choose The times they are a changin, I'm sure the only one (besides yourself) that would know it would be the teacher, lol. I once did a research on music and its cultural impact....and no one knew it! except the middle aged man who smelled like beer and marijuana, but that is expected, lol.* Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 17:10 |
Oh wait..... If you can get a hold of this song, it would be really good. "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues" is by Bob Dylan. Use it (that is, if you cannot find a Queen song). It makes fun of the 50's McCarthyism and communist scare, but is still highly political. For anyone who knows about it, McCarthyism was horrible here in the States. The worst thing to be called would be a communist, and horrible things would follow. So yeah.... Its a good song too. Rather funny and full of satire, but easy to understand as far as getting the meaning of the song goes. cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 17:26 |
Yeah, it is also on the 1964 concert at philharmonic hall bootleg series. This song is not on there, but The Death of Emmit Till is highly political. It was about a young black boy was killed by some older white men. Its really good too. My mistake about 'Universal Solider.' Whoops. But a good one nonetheless. The bootleg series are great, espeically the 1964 one that yours truly has, lol. Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 17:49 |
Heh.... Yeah, listening to it, it made me laugh whenever I heard him laughing onstage. It's a great concert, and I just love the duets he does with Joan Baez. Did you see him in the 60 minutes interview by any chance? Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 17:56 |
Haha, yes.... I love Dylan so much. But watching the 60 minute interview was saddening. He is just not a happy person, now is he? He says that all the songs he was able to write; he will never be able to write like it again. He said he is down as far as writing goes, because all of it is dry. Now that is sad, lol. Cheers "This is a sacreligious lulliby in D minor..." |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 18:05 |
Meh. What I found funny was that people thought that him doing a victoria secret's commercial was stupid. But in an interview in the 60's, a man asked him what he would do beyond music, and Dylan replied that he would probably do an ad for women's underwear. See? Held true to his word! lol. Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 18:15 |
haha, yea. That's for sure. Have you ever seen him in concert? Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 18:27 |
Yeah, I have not seen him live either. I think my favorite album would have to be blood on the tracks. Screw searching for songs.....just get the albums! lol. Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 18:35 |
Yeah, I have seen it! It really is good. Well, it is hard to find early demo versions, thats for sure. Besides the new fangled CD's, I have every album of his on record. Rather nice. ;) Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 11.12.2004 18:39 |
Oh, I know it! My Father saw Dylan in concert in 62. I envy the bastard. lol Cheers |
| goinback 12.12.2004 04:43 |
If you do something from Live-Aid why not just go for "Do They Know It's Christmas"? ;) |
| dennis 15767 12.12.2004 06:27 |
the_hero wrote: U2 - Sunday bloody sunday about the civil war in IrelandRight Or Nazis, Working Class Hero from Roger. ITTWWC Would be a good choice, however I think I Want To Break Free really represents the working class in 1900, that would be great for history. U2 has several good things |
| FairyQueen 12.12.2004 16:52 |
goinback wrote: If you do something from Live-Aid why not just go for "Do They Know It's Christmas"? ;)I think "Is this the World We created" is a more powerful song...it criticizes the world for being such a horrid place... |
| FairyQueen 12.12.2004 19:19 |
<h4><font color=gold>Linda Of The Valley wrote:lol....yesFairyQueen wrote:Yeah I think you should go with Is This The World That We Created. (You prob have since we've been talking about this for ages!) :-)goinback wrote: If you do something from Live-Aid why not just go for "Do They Know It's Christmas"? ;)I think "Is this the World We created" is a more powerful song...it criticizes the world for being such a horrid place... |
| Awesome-O _4000 12.12.2004 20:04 |
Isn't it funny that pretty much ALL the Queen songs w/ political meanings were written by Brian. I guess the others didn't bother with that stuff much |
| FairyQueen 12.12.2004 20:06 |
Awesome-O _4000 wrote: Isn't it funny that pretty much ALL the Queen songs w/ political meanings were written by Brian. I guess the others didn't bother with that stuff muchyea..I noticed that too..I remember Freddie saying that the songs have no deep meanings except maybe for the one's written by Brian.... |
| Lord Blackadder 13.12.2004 06:28 |
O yeah, Sunday Bloody Sunday. I'd choose that. That shows an era. Great song aswell. |