| Jimi 12.11.2004 08:23 |
Just checked out BBC website. Looks like another dose of We Will Rock You and We are the Champions at the awards. Plus a closing rendition of Alright Now by Free. How original chaps...... |
| Daz85 12.11.2004 08:31 |
Well, they are hardly going to perform My Fairy King are they? |
| Jimi 12.11.2004 09:02 |
yeah thats the only other song they have of course |
| Mr. Scully 12.11.2004 09:03 |
Thank god it wasn't with the WWRY cast. At least some good news. |
| Jjeroen 12.11.2004 09:15 |
I can't imagine Paul Rodgers doing WWRY. Does not fit his melodic voice at all! If they do WWRY I would find it a very bad choice. With such a singer you could do something realy special with a song that much more fits his voice. They need something melodic, something bluesy, soft rocky... And yeah guys, you are right. They should quit the ongoing let's do yet another WWRY-thing-thing... From now on the only rendition of WWRY I would want to hear has to be one with Eminem on vocals! |
| The Mir@cle 12.11.2004 09:58 |
Can anybody post a link?? |
| Jimi 12.11.2004 10:18 |
I think there is some kind of choir there. God that WWRY cast is horrid.Embarrasing. Why Rog says he hates musicals but this is great is beyond me. Rog its a musical. Yes you've got a band in the roof but its a musical. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 12.11.2004 10:32 |
Haven't seen the musical, but I laugh when Brian says Freddie would like it because it's rock and roll. It's nostalgia for old people and a great intro to Queen music for young folks. If you were lucky enough to see Queen in the 70s, THAT was rock and roll. Talented people in costumes with a preposterous story line is theatre, live band or not. |
| Jjeroen 12.11.2004 10:42 |
Oh, guys, be carefull. If Brian reads this he will come to your house and kill you! (Or just publicly insult you on his website...) |
| Mr. Scully 12.11.2004 10:48 |
Very good post, BHM 0271. |
| Jimi 12.11.2004 11:04 |
BHM the musical represents nothing to do with the spirit of rock and roll.If anything its completely pop idol!! I went with an open mind and slight apprehension. Its basically ordinary.Very immature and not very memorable.I can recall very little from the show and it was only a month ago. As for big standing ovations - not exactly bringing the house down. Nowadays people demand more (quantity) but settle for less.(quality) |
| Mr Mercury 12.11.2004 11:04 |
They were presented with their award by 2 of the guys from the Darkness - Justin was one of them |
| Jimi 12.11.2004 11:09 |
BHM the musical represents nothing to do with the spirit of rock and roll.If anything its completely pop idol!! I went with an open mind and slight apprehension. Its basically ordinary.Very immature and not very memorable.I can recall very little from the show and it was only a month ago. As for big standing ovations - not exactly bringing the house down. Nowadays people demand more (quantity) but settle for less.(quality) |
| Boy Thomas Raker 12.11.2004 11:28 |
Thank you Mr. Scully. Here's Brian's original quote re: the musical. "I think of him everyday, Freddie would love this. I think he's having a big chuckle. It's rock and roll, it's rock and roll, and it's real, it's real musicians, it's real people singing real songs, you don't get no miming, you don't get people pretending or whatever, it's real." |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 12.11.2004 11:34 |
Actually, heres what QOL had to say about the event:- "Last night Queen were inducted into the UK Music Hall Of Fame at the Hackney Empire in London. QOL was there, so here we go! Introduced by Justin and Dan from the Darkness, a wonderful video montage of Queen at their finest preceded the introduction of Roger and Brian to the stage. Roger expressed his thanks and respect to all the other artists nominated in the 70s catagory including Led Zeppelin and also questioned the non-nomination of ELO(!) - "and where the f*ck were ELO!? (laughs)". Brian gracefully accepted the award, making it clear how much it meant to them that the public and the fans had voted and promptly said "thank you, that's it...we are just going to play!" This was great with a huge roar. Brian strapped on his Red Special and Roger stepped behind his kit in a band that included Spike Edney and Wire Daisies lead singer Treana Morris on backing vocals. Brian then introduced Free and Bad Company legend Paul Rodgers for a crowd rousing version of 'We Will Rock You' which was followed quickly by a superb bluesy version of 'We Are The Champions' in which Rodgers gorgeous soulful drawl gave the song a wonderfull new twist. The show was not quite over for Queen though... After Bono inducted former Island Records boss Chris Blackwell into the Hall Of Fame as a Honorary Member, Jamie Theakston introduced Paul Rodgers, one of Blackwells signings as part of Free, and his backing band... Rodgers and Queen then preceded to rip through a dazzeling version of the Free classic 'All Right Now' with a little help from the Polyphonic Spree. Roger was in fine form on the skins and Brian looked extremly happy slashing away on his guitar, aiding the mic stand twirling Rodgers to bring the curtain down on a great, great night. Let's hope we havent seen that last of that Queen + collaboration..." Make of that what you will... |
| Adam Baboolal 12.11.2004 12:10 |
Sounds good. Can't wait to see the show on tv. Just hope it isn't edited badly. Peace, Adam. |
| Daburcor? 12.11.2004 12:46 |
I wish we Americans had a chance to watch it... :'( |
| Mr. Bulsara 13.11.2004 11:02 |
Very , very Good Post Thank You, God Bless You, Sweet Dreams You Lot Of Tarts. Goodbye |
| Serry... 13.11.2004 16:28 |
I don't know if it was good or bad, but that's funny for me to read replies where some QZers says that Freddie wouldn't like it and no matter what Brian said... It seems like we all knew Fred better than Brian... |
| Boy Thomas Raker 13.11.2004 17:16 |
Good point Serry. However, Freddie is on video stating that he liked to get on with new things, and guys from the band said he bored easily. Maybe he'd love the musical, maybe not. I'm not saying this is anything but my thought, but given his personality and history, I couldn't see Freddie at age 59 (were he alive) getting fired up about doing what Brian and Roger have done for 5 years now, which is to constantly perform the same songs from nearly 30 years ago. Look at it this way. In 1977, a newish band named Queen has won the British Phonographic Industry award for song of the half century. If an act from the 1940s were once again performing their big hit from 1950 you'd think they were a bit sad. To me, hearing B & R playing WWRY & WATC with everyone and their dog is becoming like Chubby Checker doing 'The Twist' for 40 years. Brian is my musical hero and I think a greater man than he is a musician. I also think he's 100% obsessed about shaping Queen's musical history, and it's a bit tawdry to some. |
| Serry... 13.11.2004 17:34 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Good point Serry. However, Freddie is on video stating that he liked to get on with new things, and guys from the band said he bored easily. Maybe he'd love the musical, maybe not. I'm not saying this is anything but my thought, but given his personality and history, I couldn't see Freddie at age 59 (were he alive) getting fired up about doing what Brian and Roger have done for 5 years now, which is to constantly perform the same songs from nearly 30 years ago. Look at it this way. In 1977, a newish band named Queen has won the British Phonographic Industry award for song of the half century. If an act from the 1940s were once again performing their big hit from 1950 you'd think they were a bit sad. To me, hearing B & R playing WWRY & WATC with everyone and their dog is becoming like Chubby Checker doing 'The Twist' for 40 years. Brian is my musical hero and I think a greater man than he is a musician. I also think he's 100% obsessed about shaping Queen's musical history, and it's a bit tawdry to some.I see you opinion and I can agree about all this the musical fuss, but you know - Freddie sung Bo Rhap and Crazy Little Thing with the Royal Ballet at 1979... I don't think it was something that Queen fans were awaiting for. I don't think that Freddie would be pleased with the statue to himself and many other things. But on the other side there is a lot of Queen fans who's very angry to John. So it goes like: if Brian and Roger are doing something - that's bad, if John ain't do nothing - that's bad too, so what is good then? No-one can replace Freddie, so any singer who'd sing Rock You and Chamions would be not much welcome for us as Freddie did, so I don't know if it's right to blame guys for they job. That's a bussiness, if they'd play 'Nevermore' live who'd care about it, besides Queen fans? But they have to bring new audience and only way is play stuff that most of people knows - We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions. |
| Lord Blackadder 14.11.2004 12:22 |
Well apparently he mucked about with the melody of WWRY, so that was stupid. We can see tonight and report back tomoz... |
| deakys ghost 14.11.2004 12:55 |
...oh God!!! Another rendition of "Rock You" & "Champions" churned out using another stand-in vocalist bastardising the Queen name yet again!! You wouyld think that Queen never recorded anything else! At least Deacon has the common sense to stay well away. Who's next? Queen+ Kylie or should that be Queen+ young good looking trendy stars making old legends look good... |
| Serry... 14.11.2004 15:24 |
And what should they do in your opinion? There is topic where some guys says that Robert Plant was bad at Tribute. So who can sings Queen songs good, except Brian and Roger? We may blame everyone who'd try to do it... If they'd record something together, but without John - how about that? Would we blame it too? Let's be more tolerant! |
| deakys ghost 14.11.2004 15:31 |
Well Sergey it's the old "without Freddie Queen are nothing" argument. Brian & Roger's solo work sells in low numbers so using the Queen name ensures that they remain in the spotlight. The new tracks such as "Invincible Hope" for 46664 weren't that great altthough they were well intended. Personally I would prefer to see a new BM or RT solo CD and leave the name Queen alone. It's a bit like McCartney going on stage or releasing new stuff as "The Beatles"..but let me guess you'd probably rush out to buy that?! |
| Serry... 14.11.2004 15:49 |
Yes, I'd rush and buy it. As well as any solo album, as well as any related album. Does it matters for you if they use 'Queen' name over their job? Do they have to write 'One blonde drummer and curly guitarist proudly presents'? I can't see the big problem when they play THEIR (not ours) songs with people they want! Remember Freddie's quote about 'my songs like a Biz razors'? Don't take it too serious, if they play with Britney, McCartney etc. That's a show-biz. I mostly hate when some cover-bands play their stuff, actually... |
| Rien 14.11.2004 16:04 |
Too bad I have to be gentle with newbies like Deakys Ghost... I haven't read anything positive about Queen in his posts. If you dislike it this much, why don't you tell it to Brian and Roger themselves? |
| agneepath! 11994 14.11.2004 16:23 |
deakys ghost wrote: The new tracks such as "Invincible Hope" for 46664 weren't that great altthough they were well intended.Well I for one, thoroughly enjoyed "Say its not true" |
| Russian Headlong 14.11.2004 16:40 |
Paul Rogers was an inspired choice, always liked him in Bad Company and Free but he was fantastic doing Rock you and Champions with his great vocals |
| Adam Baboolal 14.11.2004 17:15 |
Well, it wasn't bad. But it just seemed a little flat. And many know I don't care about the band name or the WWRY/WATC performances. I just think things were a little imbalanced, e.g. Brian doing more guitar bits _during_ the singing than usual and Paul Rodger's different melodies. It was an ok peformance. But the thing that lifted me was the crowd's response to them. Fantastic to see and hear that! They truly are still loved. :) Peace, Adam. EDIT: I thought Roger looked as cool as ever! |
| Rich Tea 14.11.2004 17:57 |
yes the crowd response was very pleasing perhaps it confirms that what they have been doing over the last 65 years has indeed worked and as far as joe public are concerned Queen even without Freddie and John still means a hell of a lot! I actually liked the performance! Time for some new material though while they are still hot I think? |
| Mr Mercury 14.11.2004 18:28 |
Russian Headlong wrote: Paul Rogers was an inspired choice, always liked him in Bad Company and Free but he was fantastic doing Rock you and Champions with his great vocalsThoroughly agree with you RH. And the version of All Right Now at the end was good - tho I'm still trying to work out what the Polyphonic Spree actual involvement was all about.... |
| Adam Baboolal 14.11.2004 18:48 |
Just saw the Alright Now bit and loved it! I'm not one for controversy on these things, but I think PR kept something back for that performance. Peace, Adam. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 14.11.2004 18:57 |
All Right Now was good, But Roger looks like shite. |
| Crockerdile 14.11.2004 20:12 |
Personally I thought the Hall Performance was bloody good... if Bri and Rog are to go on and do something 'new' creatively... in Paul Rodgers they've found a vocalist worthy of taking such things forward... :o) Yes I'm sure there are a fair few saddos on here stuck in their time warps too closed minded to accept that anything new can be challenging and exciting... but those bozo's can stick to getting anorakical about fuzzy ancient bootlegs while the more open minded among us embrace the here and now... hurrah! |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 14.11.2004 20:23 |
Crockerdile wrote: Personally I thought the Hall Performance was bloody good... if Bri and Rog are to go on and do something 'new' creatively... in Paul Rodgers they've found a vocalist worthy of taking such things forward... :o) Yes I'm sure there are a fair few saddos on here stuck in their time warps too closed minded to accept that anything new can be challenging and exciting... but those bozo's can stick to getting anorakical about fuzzy ancient bootlegs while the more open minded among us embrace the here and now... hurrah!Bloody good post that was. Cant wait to see the replies to this one. |
| My hair's a disgrace 14.11.2004 21:04 |
"Roger expressed his thanks and respect to all the other artists nominated in the 70s catagory including Led Zeppelin and also questioned the non-nomination of ELO(!) - "and where the f*ck were ELO!? (laughs)". Brian gracefully accepted the award, making it clear how much it meant to them that the public and the fans had voted and promptly said "thank you, that's it...we are just going to play!" This was great with a huge roar." QUOTE] I could have sworn Roger said "Where the f**k were The Who?". That makes more sense to me. |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 14.11.2004 21:12 |
My hair's a disgrace wrote: "Roger expressed his thanks and respect to all the other artists nominated in the 70s catagory including Led Zeppelin and also questioned the non-nomination of ELO(!) - "and where the f*ck were ELO!? (laughs)". Brian gracefully accepted the award, making it clear how much it meant to them that the public and the fans had voted and promptly said "thank you, that's it...we are just going to play!" This was great with a huge roar." QUOTE] I could have sworn Roger said "Where the f**k were The Who?". That makes more sense to me.You are absolutely right he did say The Who. that quote that I used come directly from the QOL as I said. And no, I didnt alter it to make them look daft - they can do that perfectly well themselves. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 14.11.2004 21:13 |
Crocerdile, performing two songs that are almost 30 years doesn't really qualify as "new" stuff, wouldn't you agree? |
| Soul Brother 15.11.2004 04:40 |
I was a bit pissed that the film could have been much better in comparison with the others and I said this at the time the 70's programme was on. Never mind we are there now. Would be interesting to see how much Queen won by. Justin Hawkins said they had won "by miles" but a percentage of the vote figure would be interesting to know. Jamie Theakston is a tosser and it was almost a Spinal Tap moment after the Queen performance when he said "wow, that rocked!". Producers at Channel 4 must still be miffed that Led Zep never won.......go to this link, choose Queen and find out: link |
| Crockerdile 15.11.2004 05:31 |
> Crocerdile, performing two songs that are >almost 30 years doesn't really qualify as "new" >stuff, wouldn't you agree? Yes but an event like this is hardly the place to be pulling out something unheard or obscure for your audiences' ear... It was a very very good performance and Rodgers made his own mark on it, if that makes sense... with him as lead you have the quality there to maybe think about going on from this to make get into studio and make something new... I realise this is a rather simplistic and optimistic hope... I mean what are the chances of Rodgers wanting to put Bad Company on hold for the sake of such a thing? |
| Mr Mercury 15.11.2004 07:33 |
Soul Brother wrote: Would be interesting to see how much Queen won by. Justin Hawkins said they had won "by miles" but a percentage of the vote figure would be interesting to know.From what I remember when I voted online the night before the event at the site given in Brian's Soapbox, I think the percentage sat at around 69%. Dont quote me on that tho but it was like Justin said large margin. |
| tomnever 15.11.2004 08:16 |
Well personnally I really hope B&R will work with Paul. I think they can write beautiful things together. I really hope we will eventually have new material because it's been 6 years since Another World and Electric Fire... I am also impatient because it will leave them the chance to prove all the angry people who piss everyday on them (including on this board) that they are still on the top. |
| Fenderek 15.11.2004 08:24 |
Thought Paul Rodgers was exellent- finally they did something with someone truly talented (after Britney, Robbie, 5ive and the likes)... IMO Roger looked terrible... |
| Jimi 15.11.2004 08:36 |
Yeah he looks terrible. Thought he did at the 4664 thing too. Unless he loses 2 stone he'll not be doing any touring / drumming !!!!! |