QueenZone discussion #417373
I hate to say I told you so, but........Viva Bush!!!!!
| Sir B.A Baracus 05.11.2004 09:40 |
The people have spoken.......and the Dems failed to figure out that negativity WILL NEVER, EVER, win an election. The real majority is far more substantial than the few million votes separating Bush and Kerry totals. Given the tendency of the American left to flock to unhinged haters in times of stress, the prospects for Democrats chipping away at the real majority are not bright. Michael Moore, rich beyond his dreams, will continue to be an icon for this faction. Consumed with contempt for the majority, they will occupy a smug but shrinking niche of American life. The smarter figures among them, people like Representative Harold Ford (TN) and Senator-elect Barack Obama (IL), do have a clue. It remains to be seen if they will prevail. If they do, the Democrats will rebound. But if Soros money and Hollywood glitter prevail, then Karl Rove's dream of fundamental political realignment will be realized. |
| Mr.Jingles 05.11.2004 10:42 |
This election prooved nothing more that fear was stronger than reason. |
| Sir B.A Baracus 05.11.2004 10:47 |
And Kerry laid out exactly WHAT reason, other than trying to demonize President Bush???? Kerry, my friend, was the one who went NEGATIVE, and as a result, he was defeated. Not only defeated, but defeated in "the most important election of our lifetime", and defeated by a beatable candidate. The Democratic party was hijacked by the likes of Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Brice Springsteen, and the like, and America voted Bush as a result. I said that it would backfire, and it did. |
| Sir B.A Baracus 05.11.2004 10:47 |
Oh, and also, the little fat Dixie Chick... |
| Megamike The GREAT 05.11.2004 10:57 |
Well.. My money was on Nader.. I was SURE he was gonna do it this time |
| Mr.Jingles 05.11.2004 11:13 |
Is there anything positive to say about Bush? There's plenty of reasons why Bush should have been thrown out of the White House - There were no WMD or links to Al-Qaeda found in Iraq, according to the 9/11 Comission. I don't care if Saddam Hussein was a ruthless dictator (besides, there are worse than him out there) A president that lies to his people or gives his nation false information to justify a war deserves to be thrown out of office. - That same 9/11 Comission found that Bush ignored a memo sent by the CIA on August 6th of 2001 warning of possible hijackings with planes to be perpetrated by Al-Qaeda on U.S. soil. Bush just simply did nothing about it. When the 9/11 Comission decided to question the incident to the White House, Bush sent Condolezza Rice to give some bogus answer. Then the 9/11 Comission requested a testification from Bush and Cheney, to which they agreed only if the information from the testification hearing would be inside enclosed doors and there wouldn't be any information released to the press. Got something to hide Mr. President? - On May of 2002 Bush was question about the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden, to what he responded... "I really don't know where he is. Frankly, I'm not that concerned". - If the invasion of Iraq wasn't about oil... then what the hell was Halliburton doing there? - He underfunded his own 'No Child Left Behind' program. - He has no viable plan to find a solution to the upgrowing deficit. Instead he prefered to give tax cuts to everyone including the rich. Do you guys really think that Bill Gates, Donald Trump, and Michael Eisner deserve more money than what they have already when the whole country is in crisis. - 44 million Americans have no health care, and the cost of prescription drugs have been on the rise since 2001. Now Bush supossedely is getting concerned about health care. Weren't 4 years enough to do something about it? - God Bless Putin and the Russian government for signing the Kyoto agreement yesterday, to prevent global warming. The same agreement that 4 years ago Bush said he was going to sign but then changed his mind because he thought global warming wasn't that much of a big problem. And that's just a few of many more reasons. |
| Sir B.A Baracus 05.11.2004 12:34 |
Haiilburton??? I guess when CLINTON used them in the Balkans, that was about oil too, eh? Indeed, far from having a "troubling" past, one could argue that Halliburton was a favorite contractor of the Clinton Pentagon. The first LOGCAP was awarded in 1992, as the first Bush administration (including then-Secretary of Defense Cheney) was leaving office. Four companies competed, and the winner was Brown & Root, as it was known at the time (Halliburton changed the name to Kellogg Brown & Root after an acquisition in 1998). The multi-year contract was in effect during much of the Clinton administration. During those years, Brown & Root did extensive work for the Army under the LOGCAP contract in Haiti, Somalia, and Bosnia; contract workers built base camps and provided troops with electrical power, food, and other necessities. In 1997, when LOGCAP was again put up for bid, Halliburton/Brown & Root lost the competition to another contractor, Dyncorp. But the Clinton Defense Department, rather than switch from Halliburton to Dyncorp, elected to award a separate, sole-source contract to Halliburton/Brown & Root to continue its work in the Balkans. According to a later GAO study, the Army made the choice because 1) Brown & Root had already acquired extensive knowledge of how to work in the area; 2) the company "had demonstrated the ability to support the operation"; and 3) changing contractors would have been costly. The Army's sole-source Bosnia contract with Brown & Root lasted until 1999. At that time, the Clinton Defense Department conducted full-scale competitive bidding for a new contract. The winner was . . . Halliburton/Brown & Root. The company continued its work in Bosnia uninterrupted. That work received favorable notices throughout the Clinton administration. For example, Vice President Al Gore's National Performance Review mentioned Halliburton's performance in its Report on Reinventing the Department of Defense, issued in September 1996. In a section titled "Outsourcing of Logistics Allows Combat Troops to Stick to Basics," Gore's reinventing-government team favorably mentioned LOGCAP, the cost-plus-award system, and Brown & Root, which the report said provided "basic life support services — food, water, sanitation, shelter, and laundry; and the full realm of logistics services — transportation, electrical, hazardous materials collection and disposal, fuel delivery, airfield and seaport operations, and road maintenance." In 2001, after the Bush administration came into office, the giant LOGCAP contract expired again and another competition was held. Once again, Halliburton won the contract, and it was under that arrangement that the Iraqi-oilfield analysis was done. As the record shows, Halliburton won big government contracts under the Clinton administration, and it won big government contracts under the Bush administration. The only difference between the two is that Henry Waxman is making allegations of favoritism in the Bush administration, while he appeared untroubled by the issue during the Clinton years. Yet again, Mr. Jingle Jangle Dangle, you know not of what you speak, except for the DNC talking points that you can rattle off... |
| Mr.Jingles 05.11.2004 13:05 |
Sir B.A Baracus wrote: Yet again, Mr. Jingle Jangle Dangle, you know not of what you speak, except for the DNC talking points that you can rattle off...Well, you really don't seem to know that much either, don't you? Then give us more points. All you did was talking about Halliburton under the Clinton administration. |
| Music Man 05.11.2004 13:43 |
He did successfully rebut your "If the invasion of Iraq wasn't about oil... then what the hell was Halliburton doing there?" accusasion. Anyway, how did fear moreso than reason play a major part in the election? Most of the states which most likely had anything to lose from terrorism supported Kerry. |
| The Mir@cle 05.11.2004 13:49 |
I like Brians' comment in his soapbox... The rest of the world had a very bad day Wednesday. Only the Americans love Bush, the rest of the world hate him. He's very arrogant and wants Europe to serve him. And he's not making the world safer, he's only make it worse. For us it's very frustrating that he won the election. For us, the Dutch people, was Wednesday not only a bad day but a black day. Dutch film director Buch murdered in Amsterdam because he made a film about the Islam. We lost our freedom to say what we want, very depressing. Some politicians are threatened to. link |