brENsKi 01.11.2004 17:12 |
well, well well...one week after release and i still haven't bought either dvd or cd of "on fire" sorry people - i STILL can't see what the fuss is about.... before you all verbally abuse me 1. i was there - it was a good concert, good but not great 2. i still have the channel4 - the tube - broadcast on vhs - and seldom play it - just don't like it that much - the material from that tour was uninspiring 3. i refuse to get dragged into the hype there are much better concerts out there....but queen won't release them....so we should be grateful for this? count me out....if it were houston, earls court, hammy75, osaka 85, argentina81, then perhaps - but not this |
Rien 01.11.2004 17:16 |
Well, perhaps Brian would say: "If you haven't seen it, you should just shut up". :-) No, really, I think it's worth buying. The quality could be better than your VHS. The show is great, full of energy and I'm sure you have the money to buy it and eventually you'll get over spending your money on this. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 01.11.2004 17:18 |
I brought the CD, but I cant buy the DVD as my sis has got it me for Xmas, I'll have to make do with the VHS for now! |
deleted user 01.11.2004 17:22 |
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agneepath! 11994 01.11.2004 17:33 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: I brought the CD, but I cant buy the DVD as my sis has got it me for Xmas, I'll have to make do with the VHS for now!thats nice... but the wait must be agony! |
Brian_Mays_Wig 01.11.2004 17:46 |
Agneepath! wrote:Oh yes, lolBrian_Mays_Wig wrote: I brought the CD, but I cant buy the DVD as my sis has got it me for Xmas, I'll have to make do with the VHS for now!thats nice... but the wait must be agony! |
inu-liger 01.11.2004 18:07 |
Philipp Nothaft wrote: I don't think there's a real "hype" concerning MK. People simply enjoy the DVD, yet they tend to be critical as well.Really? Not that much of a hype? I thought different :( |
Adam Baboolal 01.11.2004 18:12 |
What hype, indeed. Just felt the same as when GVHII came out. Now, I think there was more of a hype feel with the Wembley dvd release. Peace, Adam. |
deleted user 01.11.2004 19:08 |
I'd think of it as "delightful anticipation" instead of "hype". |
Brian_Mays_Wig 01.11.2004 21:03 |
Rock In Rio was pretty shite. |
deleted user 01.11.2004 21:08 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Rock In Rio was pretty shite.Pretty? Utter shite to me... |
brENsKi 02.11.2004 02:46 |
HM wrote: i think one of the main reasons for QP have released MK'82 is the same of Wembley'86, Rio'85 and Budapest'86: in the day of the gig, the whole country where the gig happened stopped to watch it's trasmission on TV and listen in the radio wembley and MK were not broadcast live on tv or radio in england |
KevMull 02.11.2004 05:24 |
"which WAS going to be aired live for a whole country!" WAS, doesn't meant to say it ever did and neither of them ever were aired live. Take if from somebody who saw both original transmissions in the UK, which were edited by the C4 prog 'The Tube' and broadvcasr several months after the actual events. As to the original poster. Watching ANYTHING on DVD (that is done correctly) is like watching something you've not seen before. Throw away your fuzzy old, cut-down ageing VHS copy and go watch the DVD and see Queen how they were meant to be seen. |
FriedChicken 02.11.2004 06:08 |
Rien wrote: Well, perhaps Brian would say: "If you haven't seen it, you should just shut up". :-)Nah, I think Brian would say something like "Come and see WWRY, It's great!" |
FriedChicken 02.11.2004 06:08 |
Maybe thats the reason I rarely check Brianmay.com these days |
brENsKi 02.11.2004 08:00 |
but most people seem to have completely ignored my original post - ie - they HAVE got caught in the hype it was MY opinion - the concert was good - it has nothing to do with it only being vhs (up til now) I WAS there and it was good - but not great - and that's my opinion - and that's why i won' be buying it. i have replaced several vhs tapes with dvds down the years - films and music - but i only do this i fi can remember wanting to look at the vhs often enought to justify it - and with MK i can't. ...and now perhaps the person who said i was wrong about MK and wembley being broadcast live would like to admit I was right and they were wrong...MK was broadcast in the autumn - i can verify this because the TUBE launched in the autumn and it was (along with a Roling Stones gig) one of their big initial "sellers" to get the programme some viewers - the concert was 5:6:82 - i know - iwas there!!! as for wembley - can't be sure but i was at least a month after the concert - i know again - because i didn't need to set the VHS before travelling down the M40 to London for the concert ok? |
Mr Coolest Cat 02.11.2004 08:14 |
<marquee><font color = green>Brenski wrote: well, well well...one week after release and i still haven't bought either dvd or cd of "on fire" sorry people - i STILL can't see what the fuss is about.... before you all verbally abuse me 1. i was there - it was a good concert, good but not great 2. i still have the channel4 - the tube - broadcast on vhs - and seldom play it - just don't like it that much - the material from that tour was uninspiring 3. i refuse to get dragged into the hype there are much better concerts out there....but queen won't release them....so we should be grateful for this? count me out....if it were houston, earls court, hammy75, osaka 85, argentina81, then perhaps - but not thisWell mate, i was also there, and you have just said what i've been saying all year, but certain people on this forum won't listen to your opinion, and just try to shoot you down, kids will be kids i suppose. |
Fenderek 02.11.2004 08:22 |
Well, and than we're surprised they don't want to release old gigs... Not Hammersmith...? Well, no- don't like it- your choice- what's the deal? You want to know what the fuss is all about? The fucking great vocal delivery that night- not that many times Fred sang better... Set list? I agree- could have been better- I mean I love 70's and anything from that era would be welcome, BUT- a year ago we were bitching about Queen keeping their gigs in the vaults- When one of them is out we say "what's all the fuss about" and "why not Hammersmith"... I bet if they released Hmmersmith'75 some ppl would say- well, I have a perfect VCD of it, nothing special, setlist isn't THAT interesting, they made some mistakes (and they made quite few)- why not fucking Truro'71...? I wrote that already once in other thread- this feels like a graet place to repeat... Are you ever going to be staisfied...? I understand- that's your opinion; it wasn't great, you're not buying it- fine. But most ppl seem to enjoy the performance- why saying that it's a hype? I love this gig, man!!! And I dislike Wembley- now that was a freaking hype!!! |
Fenderek 02.11.2004 09:06 |
the_hero wrote: How in the world can you dislike Wembley?Freddie's voice is in a bad shape, the set list is full of greatest hits therefore- crap, half of the gig in the daylight, many mistakes... AND ESPECIALLY- the hype surrounding this gig... Undeserved, when it gets to performance... |
frank39 02.11.2004 09:44 |
Fenderek you took the words right out of my mouth. I have 3 different copies of MK, and I am lucky to delete them now. Just obsolete. And I never loved the Hot Space thing at all. But on all your TV copies or what ever, there is no Action, no Back Chat and all the missing rest. And the Vienna 82 sequence is completly new for 99% of us ( except some seconds in the DoRo videos ).Don´t forget that. I never really liked 82-85, I prefer the 70s, but isn´t it great, that QP finally found out, they have some treasures, which will still bring a lot of Cash? Imagine, if they find out about Earls Court (nowadays no prob to fix that little sound errors), Cologne 1986( = rehearsal video for Budapest), Houston 77 ( WWRY fast...thats all? ) And a lot more... All these tapes exist, there must only be someone you tells them, there´s a lot of cash to earn... What about Greg Brooks? |
Lord Blackadder 02.11.2004 10:21 |
Osaka '85 isnt as good as Milton Keynes. I don't mind what they release as long as I havent got it and it's good. |
Regor 02.11.2004 10:29 |
frank39 wrote: Fenderek you took the words right out of my mouth. I have 3 different copies of MK, and I am lucky to delete them now. Just obsolete. And I never loved the Hot Space thing at all. But on all your TV copies or what ever, there is no Action, no Back Chat and all the missing rest. And the Vienna 82 sequence is completly new for 99% of us ( except some seconds in the DoRo videos ).Don´t forget that. I never really liked 82-85, I prefer the 70s, but isn´t it great, that QP finally found out, they have some treasures, which will still bring a lot of Cash? Imagine, if they find out about Earls Court (nowadays no prob to fix that little sound errors), Cologne 1986( = rehearsal video for Budapest), Houston 77 ( WWRY fast...thats all? ) And a lot more... All these tapes exist, there must only be someone you tells them, there´s a lot of cash to earn... What about Greg Brooks?I was hoping too that Cologne '86 still exists, but in another thread here I found out that the director actually used just a few cameras and the same tape as in Budapest, he just recorded over it - so sadly no Cologne footage... |
kohuept 02.11.2004 13:14 |
I can't wait to buy it and, trust me, there is NO hype here in the US. Can the 12 people who know about it's release create hype??? |
Penetration_Guru 02.11.2004 13:39 |
I would buy a dvd of any concert I had attended. I also think that the Full show, restored, is far better than the Tube edit (which I've also seen). But I respect the choices of whoever it is that refuses to buy it on some sort of moral grounds. |
brENsKi 02.11.2004 14:46 |
Penetration_Guru stated: I would buy a dvd of any concert I had attended. would you? that's strange...even the piss-poor ones? i have to say that whitesnake 80, Rainbow 81, Dire Straits 83, hawkwind 81 - these are all concerts i attended - and they could release them at £1. each on DVD and i still wouldn;t touch them! - but i suppose you had to be there to understand why |
Penetration_Guru 02.11.2004 17:31 |
OK, fair point, Bon Jovi at a quarter full Millenium Stadium I probably wouldn't get, but other than that, I stand by my statement. The same goes for audio. |
Scirocco1977 02.11.2004 17:42 |
WE are all little Anitas, constantly whining: I want it all, and I want it NOW! |
Little_Queenie 03.11.2004 03:35 |
Fenderek<br><font size=1>Pretentious twat</font> wrote: Well, and than we're surprised they don't want to release old gigs... Not Hammersmith...? Well, no- don't like it- your choice- what's the deal? You want to know what the fuss is all about? The fucking great vocal delivery that night- not that many times Fred sang better... Set list? I agree- could have been better- I mean I love 70's and anything from that era would be welcome, BUT- a year ago we were bitching about Queen keeping their gigs in the vaults- When one of them is out we say "what's all the fuss about" and "why not Hammersmith"... I bet if they released Hmmersmith'75 some ppl would say- well, I have a perfect VCD of it, nothing special, setlist isn't THAT interesting, they made some mistakes (and they made quite few)- why not fucking Truro'71...? I wrote that already once in other thread- this feels like a graet place to repeat... Are you ever going to be staisfied...? I understand- that's your opinion; it wasn't great, you're not buying it- fine. But most ppl seem to enjoy the performance- why saying that it's a hype? I love this gig, man!!! And I dislike Wembley- now that was a freaking hype!!!Good point. Couldn't agree more!! Nevermind which gig might be released, someone will always complain, why didn't they release sth else... And more, many of us unfortunately never had the chance to see Queen live, so we can't wait for any gig to be released. I've seen MK on VHS and like it pretty much, though I also love the 70's stuff much much more. But I think MK is a good gig, and will without any doubt be even better on DVD, so I'm sure gonna buy it. You oldtimers are simply spoiled cause you had the chance to see Queen live so many times. If you were in my position, I assure you you'd give your right hand for any Queen gig, even if they played in some highschool for a school dance. You old spoiled bastards;)) |
Jimi 03.11.2004 11:54 |
Fenderek you are totally correct in my opinion about Wembley. I was at 4 UK shows on that tour and the only one that had real drive and delivery was Knebworth. The rest were at best Average and at worst down right disappointing (Maine Road). Milton has an energy and exhuberence that Wembley never gives |
teddybear 03.11.2004 20:16 |
Well I can't wait to sit down tonight to watch my copy of the concert on DVD - with the full surround and chrystal clear picture - will be AMAZING. I have the crappy VHS versions (many of them) the longer versions and the short ones they keep replaying on VH1 in UK all the time, but to see it in it's entirity and with great audio, I cannot wait. I have already watched the second disc and love the "Calling all Girls" to the photo gallery, it just rocks - the Hot Space album might not have been a good one for the band, but live the numbers take a life of their own - they are so much better. I shall be happy to watch the full concert and think that the Queen DVDs are delivering good value for money ! Anyway, if you dont want to buy it, then DONT - no-one is forcing you too - and unless you actually do sit and watch it, I cannot see how you can criticise it. I hope they keep the concerts coming,and am glad to know that know I can toss away all my horrible home made DVDrs, VCDs and videos of this concert in the edited forms. Good...............that will free up more space for future Queen DVDs !! BRING EM ON !!!! |
mike hunt 04.11.2004 08:26 |
you people are the biggest cry babies in the history of so called music fans. How can you so called queen fans put down anything queen did live. Live at wembly ruled, is one of the great dvds I own. they were simply the greatest live band and you people have the nerve to put them down. |
Mkls 04.11.2004 09:02 |
Regor wrote:frank39 wrote: I never really liked 82-85, I prefer the 70s, but isn´t it great, that QP finally found out, they have some treasures, which will still bring a lot of Cash? Imagine, if they find out about Earls Court (nowadays no prob to fix that little sound errors), Cologne 1986( = rehearsal video for Budapest), Houston 77 ( WWRY fast...thats all? ) And a lot more... All these tapes exist, there must only be someone you tells them, there´s a lot of cash to earn... ge...Before another urban legends starts: there are NO "Cologne 1986 rehearsal tapes for Budapest" exist. Never been. The show was recorded with ONE VHS camera from somewhere in the audience, quite far from the stage, with no close-ups. And the owner of the tape does not know if he still has it, neither he is willing to search his collection. The assistant director used it to make various notes about the whole concert for the Hungarian cameramen. I am quite sure there are many similar lost recordings - waiting to be found or forgotten forever. |
Voice of Reason 2018 04.11.2004 09:12 |
I've bought the Queen Milton Keynes CD. Does that mean I've fallen for the hype? If so, why? |
the-rock 4283 04.11.2004 10:20 |
the tapes from cologne were deleted??? budapest was not filmed on magnetic tape but on 35mm. as far as i know, you cannot re-use 35mm film (as it principally is the same stuff than in a normal photo camera). so the "deleted" theory is a kina dubious... |
Mkls 04.11.2004 11:35 |
Never understood why people cannot read. I clearly wrote this about the rumoured Cologne 86 video - and not "Magic-Live in Budapest". Nobody said the Budapest film was reused, I think that is obvious... |
The Mad Hatter 04.11.2004 13:00 |
there are much better concerts out there....but queen won't release them....so we should be grateful for this? count me out....if it were houston, earls court, hammy75, osaka 85, argentina81, then perhaps - but not this Speaking of Hammersmith '75, there's a petition on queenconcerts.com to get both the '75 and '79 Hammersmith shows released as a double DVD. Here's the link: link |
Fenderek 04.11.2004 13:30 |
The Mad Hatter wrote: there are much better concerts out there....(...) osaka 85You must be kidding me... |