QueenZone discussion #413776

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: No Doubt is an awesome band! and Gwen Stefani is so hot!

Mala-Kot wrote: and if you wanna praise Gwens look and feminine side here and say that she is 100% stunning then I suggest taking a good hard look at her chest and you will be surprised that she isn't a "100%" full of it !!

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: In the big picture of big pictures, of course Queen is more accomplished and successful band than No Doubt. I think Queen was largely an androgenous band playing off Freddie's bi-sexuality. Whether you like to admit it or not, Queen always tried to have strong female vibes in their music and presentation. There always seemed to be an unsaid story behind the story, and one wasn't sure they wanted to know that story. But they ultimately come off as er she-males (a LOUD YUCK!) and that's the part of Queen that always bugged me. Gwen Stefani is 100% female, and she's gorgeous. She radiates female charm and energy, and in that sense, she is the REAL QUEEN. She's mesmerizing and fantastic.

Zander05 wrote:

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: In the big picture of big pictures, of course Queen is more accomplished and successful band than No Doubt. I think Queen was largely an androgenous band playing off Freddie's bi-sexuality. Whether you like to admit it or not, Queen always tried to have strong female vibes in their music and presentation. There always seemed to be an unsaid story behind the story, and one wasn't sure they wanted to know that story. But they ultimately come off as er she-males (a LOUD YUCK!) and that's the part of Queen that always bugged me. Gwen Stefani is 100% female, and she's gorgeous. She radiates female charm and energy, and in that sense, she is the REAL QUEEN. She's mesmerizing and fantastic.

Um, that is, without question, the biggest load of bullshit and probably the most insulting thing I've ever read on this forum. First off, No Doubt is a good band, but NOT half as good as Queen. Second, Freddie was not bisexual, third Queen did not "play off" it. They don't come off as she-males because they were men. Freddie did dress quite femme in the 70's but that's because it was trendy and cool at the time. And this 'loud yuck' you say gets my blood boiling because not only am I a queer activist, I am transgendered female-to-male. I'm very proud - but that's not to say I rub it in. Queen is an influential band and they did a lot of ground-breaking things in the 30 years they were together. Tell me, what did No Doubt do that could be compared to anything Queen did? In closing, I ask that you watch what you say because you've probably offended just about every die-hard fan here and have pissed off anyone involved in the GLBT community. Keep any negative thoughts and opinions to yourself. There's enough of that garbage out in the real world - I'd rather not see it here.

<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: "Gwen's latest song strikes another familiar Queen theme: Japan. Like Freddie, Gwen loves to shop in Japan, and has created a song about Japan." - I find it a bit odd that you are trying to draw all of these comparisons between Gwen and Freddie. Just because they like Japan does not exactly make them carbon copies of each other. And Gwen did not write "What You Waiting For?" about Japan. She refers to it twice and there's a lot of Japanese stuff in the video, but I know for certain the song is only about her and her musical endeavours. Just seems like you are looking into things a tad too much...

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote:

Zander05 wrote:

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: In the big picture of big pictures, of course Queen is more accomplished and successful band than No Doubt. I think Queen was largely an androgenous band playing off Freddie's bi-sexuality. Whether you like to admit it or not, Queen always tried to have strong female vibes in their music and presentation. There always seemed to be an unsaid story behind the story, and one wasn't sure they wanted to know that story. But they ultimately come off as er she-males (a LOUD YUCK!) and that's the part of Queen that always bugged me. Gwen Stefani is 100% female, and she's gorgeous. She radiates female charm and energy, and in that sense, she is the REAL QUEEN. She's mesmerizing and fantastic.

Um, that is, without question, the biggest load of bullshit and probably the most insulting thing I've ever read on this forum. First off, No Doubt is a good band, but NOT half as good as Queen. Second, Freddie was not bisexual, third Queen did not "play off" it. They don't come off as she-males because they were men. Freddie did dress quite femme in the 70's but that's because it was trendy and cool at the time. And this 'loud yuck' you say gets my blood boiling because not only am I a queer activist, I am transgendered female-to-male. I'm very proud - but that's not to say I rub it in. Queen is an influential band and they did a lot of ground-breaking things in the 30 years they were together. Tell me, what did No Doubt do that could be compared to anything Queen did? In closing, I ask that you watch what you say because you've probably offended just about every die-hard fan here and have pissed off anyone involved in the GLBT community. Keep any negative thoughts and opinions to yourself. There's enough of that garbage out in the real world - I'd rather not see it here.

I'm sorry that I've offended you. I'm not against homosexuals or the gay lifestyle. I respect everyone's lifestyle as long as it's not harming anyone else. I was trying to say that Gwen Stefani and No Doubt remind me a lot of Queen which I love as a band, and I can see striking similiarities between the two. They both have hugely charismatic lead-persons, and although people have denied it, I think Gwen and Freddie are almost like cross-gendered spiritual glamour twins, and their impact on the band reflects their similiar tastes and style. Freddie was incredibly feminine for a man, and he definitely set the tone for the band. I think the way Gwen struts and moves onstage is increasingly mercury-esque. She's very good. Maybe I'm crazy but that's what I see. I think Freddie would appreciate No Doubt if he were alive. Gwen's latest song strikes another familiar Queen theme: Japan. Like Freddie, Gwen loves to shop in Japan, and has created a song about Japan.

Come on, SWL, is this what you were really trying to say? Then how do you explain the LOUD YUCK thing in your first post? I'm not gay, bi or whatever, but it still bothers me.

Oh and you didn't explain why you said Queen's story was pathetic. Why?

I can't understand why being 100% female should be better than being male. There are ppl here who might think Freddie's "androgenous" style was more attractive and I agree....There may be ppl who actually like what you called their "female vibes" (err, I'm one of them)...

But I don't think they came off as she-males. Perhaps Freddie had this female look (only in the 70s), but Brian always looked very very male, a handsome guy he was (well, still is). Besides that, what's wrong with Freddie's (so-called) bisexuality (I actually think he was gay)?

<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: "Have you listened to "Harajuku girls"? I don't think I'm looking into things that are not there." - Yes, I have. It is a reference to something that comes from Japan. So the two references in the song means it is ABOUT Japan? I don't think so.

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: The more I learned about the people behind Queen, the more I sensed real tragedy and sorrow. Through this evolutionary process, I've formed a set of conclusions and judgements of the band. To me, any story in which the protagonist suffers such an ignoble fate like AIDS/HIV is a tragedy. That it happened to such a gifted man, and that he self-destructed entirely on his own, to me, that is not just tragic, it is pathetic.

You just hit the nail on the head! Think about what you just said! you LIKE their "FEMALE VIBES"!! But they're not FEMALES! Shouldn't that make you pause and think and feel a little sick?

I agree that Freddie was very feminine & he did it well. But it bugs me because he's NOT A FEMALE!! It's a little bit like, you date this pretty chick and you like her, but at the end of the date, you find out she's a GUY!! EWWW!

Nothings wrong with his gay life. I just wish I didn't know about it, and that he kept it to himself. It's like he crossed a line and he fooled his fans. We got duped into liking his music. I thought it was just the music, but it's not just music. He was selling his "female vibes", wanting us to BUY into and APPROVE his homosexuality. It's very subtle thing but that's what he was doing. So the entire thing is a little weird and uncomfortable. Of course at first you're not aware of what he did. But now, it's obvious and it's a little disgusting.