In the 'Shove It' sleeve at 'Thanks To' section you can read the following: <names, names>, Spike Edney, <names, names>. Quite strange for me... If Spike is a member of The Cross what for The Cross thanked him apart (Imagine Queen's sleeve with something like this: "And our deepest thanks to Mr John R. Deacon")? I don't remember exactly but on one of Queen or Solo albums' sleeves was error with 'thanks to' - someone's name was twice there, though it could be the print error, but in this Spike's case I can't see the reason why it's happened.
I think it very well may be because the entire Shove It album was recorded with only Roger and Spike, but The Cross was assembled as a touring band to take out. So perhaps Spike was helping Roger out with some of the songs on the album, so not only did he receive a credit on the album, but he also got a thanks, as well.
Yes, probably. But anyway it's unusualy a little bit.
deleted user 31.10.2004 06:35
I think Lester's explanation is quite likely. Note that many other names appear as part of the "thanks to"-list who most probably contributed to the recording of the album (the remaining 75 % of Queen, Erdal Kizilkay and the two female backing singers).
Not at all, because Freddie, Brian and John couldn't be stated in sleeve at the other way because of their contracts.
By the way thanks to Erdal Kizilkay is on 'Made In Heaven' too!
Erm...so in what way do your points lead to that "not at all"-conclusion ? Where's the logical basis for that "not at all" ?
FredJohnBri's names couldn't be stated any other way due to contractual obligations.
Erdal gets credits on other albums. So what ?
Jill O'Donovan and Susie O'List sang backing-vocals and they're on the "thanks to"-list, too. Was this due to contractual obligations as well ?
FredJohnBri played on the album. It's quite likely that Erdal did. And Spike might have done so before Cross were formed as well (e.g. HFE started life during the AKOM-sessions and Spike played keys on that album...could be a clue).
So what does clearly and sharply dispute the theory that the "thanks to"-list of "Shove It" might (I repeat: might) be an assembly of the folks who contributed to what was then still Rog's solo album (Cross weren't really formed before the album was nearly finished after all) ?
Strange reaction to my words... Well, do you think Jill O'Donovan and Susie O'List were in the band? Were they part of band or not??? I say about member of group whose name stated in "thanks to"!
Have you ever heard about 'Heaven For Everyone' story? Isn't Freddie sings BV for 'Killing Time', but where on the 'Strange Frontier' is his name except 'Thanks To'?
Your reply is logic, but where is logic in fact that there is no Queen's single with cat.number CDQUEEN13? 13 - is unlucky, that's okay, but is it logic reason? How can sleeve contains photos of The Cross' members (with Spike's photo too) and on other side 'thanks to' came from the times when there was no-one except Rog and Spike? Strange enough.
I said about 'Made In Heaven' 'thanks to' as BY THE WAY - it doesn't connects with 'Shove It'. And don't be so nervous - English is not my native language and I just asked question if someone know the answer.
Sorry if I may sound rude, but gee, you really like to complicate things, don't you ?
<Strange reaction to my words... Well, do you think Jill O'Donovan and Susie O'List were in the band? Were they part of band or not??? I say about member of group whose name stated in "thanks to"! >
I maybe daft, but not that daft, you know. Of course Spike was part of the band, but that is hardly the point. The only reason I mentioned Jill and Susie is because you came up with that FredJohnBri-argument in the first place.
And actually Jill and Susie kind of WERE part of the band for the '87/88-period, but that ain't the point, either. It's actually all pointed out above. If you don't want to get what I'm on about, you don't have to.
You asked for an explanation, you were provided with one. You don't have to buy it, but your stubborn refusal to at least accept it as being a fairly reasonalbe theory in absence of any other good explanation is a bit strange, as far as I'm concerned.
<Have you ever heard about 'Heaven For Everyone' story?>
Which one ?
<Isn't Freddie sings BV for 'Killing Time', but where on the 'Strange Frontier' is his name except 'Thanks To'?>
Point being ? It's the same on Shove It. So what is this supposed to tell us ? Actually, sleeve notes aren't maths. Their deductive qualities are very restricted. The fact that Freddie sang on both and was filed under "thanks to" for both is a banality that I wouldn't get scientific over.
<Your reply is logic, but where is logic in fact that there is no Queen's single with cat.number CDQUEEN13? 13 - is unlucky, that's okay, but is it logic reason?>
Again, what is this supposed to tell us in regards to Shove It ?
Apart from that, you just said it yourself: Things like these aren't based on maths and logic. However, a good and striking argument should be (at least it should make sense).
<How can sleeve contains photos of The Cross' members (with Spike's photo too) and on other side 'thanks to' came from the times when there was no-one except Rog and Spike? Strange enough.>
This is not the X-files. It's actually all very banal and far from strange.
Shove It was esentially a Rog solo-effort. Then he put a band together and decided to "sell" it under the Cross name-tag and thus introduced his new band-mates with pictures on the inner sleeve.
Apart from that they hardly played on the first record. It seems to be as simple as that.