| Serry... 27.10.2004 15:44 |
Well, another one question for Queen experts is: all Queen songs since 'The Miracle' album contributed to Queen, although about some ones we can exactly say who wrote this or that song, even 'Let Me Live' which is coming from 'The Works' era, but released much later than 'The Miracle' and because of it stated as 'Queen', but - why does 'Mother Love' then contributes to Brian and Freddie, but not 'Queen'? |
| The Real Wizard 28.10.2004 03:19 |
A very good question indeed. I'd say, just listen to the song... there is very little John and Roger there in the first place! It seems to be a Brian creation with Freddie's last vocal on it. I'm sure Roger and John didn't mind that their names weren't tagged onto a track they had little to no input on. |
| toodey 28.10.2004 05:39 |
I think i read somewhere that this was one of the few songs freddie and brian wrote together, and it took a long time to do because it was done when fredie was very ill |
| Serry... 28.10.2004 07:30 |
Sir GH - I am really not sure that Freddie have a lot of works with 'Hijack My Heart' or 'Lost Opportunity', but they does not contributes to Roger and Brian... It was the last ever recorded Freddie's song (from the released ones), during some summer/autumn 1991 sessions, I guess. |
| Sebastian 28.10.2004 12:25 |
Roger and John hardly did aything in Bijou, for instance, but it's still credited to the band. So no idea about the Mother Love credit. As for the song, lyrics are by Freddie (except for the last verse), based on the fact there's a manuscript by him (and considering how ill he was, I don't think Brian came up with the lyrics and put Fred to write them as a secretary) |
| Serry... 28.10.2004 15:23 |
Well, so I gotta ask Jacky, if she knows. |
| The Real Wizard 28.10.2004 16:40 |
Serry Funster wrote: Sir GH - I am really not sure that Freddie have a lot of works with 'Hijack My Heart' or 'Lost Opportunity', but they does not contributes to Roger and Brian...Good point. |
| Serry... 29.10.2004 17:53 |
Well, Jacky didn't answer it, so my last hope is... Brian May! Let's try, maybe stars would be lucky for me :) |
| Banquo 30.10.2004 01:39 |
Here's my view Brian has gone on record saying that he was furiously writing lyrics for Freddie to sing durung the last sessions. It is essentially a Brian May song more so when you consider he sung the last verse. Sebastian I don't want to start another aguement but your opinion cannot be taken seriously when you still say that John sang on Queen records through second-hand sources and dubious quotes. For the very last time John NEVER sang on any Queen record. Although I think he played bass. I'm off to London now so I'll see you next week. |
| iGSM 30.10.2004 01:48 |
May/Mercury, eh? Just like Lennon/MacCartney. |
| Lester Burnham 30.10.2004 02:17 |
iGSM wrote: May/Mercury, eh? Just like Lennon/MacCartney.I believe it was Lennon/DuBois, or any other common misspelling of McCartney you can muster. |
| VGB 30.10.2004 04:28 |
Banquo wrote: Although I think he played bass.that made me laugh |
| Sebastian 30.10.2004 09:35 |
>Brian has gone on record saying that he was furiously writing lyrics for Freddie to sing durung the last sessions. He also said he remembers Mother Love as the best collaboration he had with Freddie, along with when they wrote a verse of Show Must Go On. > when you still say that John sang on Queen records In which part of this thread did I say that? could it BE any more out of context? > through second-hand sources Which exactly? > and dubious quotes. They're such as dubious or strong as any other. > For the very last time John NEVER sang on any Queen record. If you know how to use a mouse, you can click in the link in my signature and enter my site. If you know how to look, please tell me in which part of it I say John sings. I don't say (in the website) that he does, neither I say he doesn't. I THINK he did, but I don't have anything mentioning that in my current site. Again, could it be any more out of context? |
| The Real Wizard 30.10.2004 16:00 |
Lester Burnham wrote: I believe it was Lennon/DuBois, or any other common misspelling of McCartney you can muster.No, that's Mitchell/DuBois. I'll be amazed if anyone here gets that one. |
| rhapsody__87 30.10.2004 19:14 |
Hey, I always thought it was all written by Freddie except for that last verse? |
| Sebastian 31.10.2004 01:02 |
rhapsody__87 <small>super!</small> wrote: Hey, I always thought it was all written by Freddie except for that last verse?Lyrically yes, the music - besides the melody - must be Brian. More on that later |
| Serry... 31.10.2004 16:47 |
Seb, if it's wouldn't be hard for you: can you tell me - is singing Roger back-vocal in 'The Great Pretender' or there is just Freddie's BV? (I don't want to start new topic with just this one question) |
| Scirocco1977 31.10.2004 17:08 |
Roger helped Freddie with the song. Dunno where I read that. Was some German article. Have to check my library... |
| Serry... 31.10.2004 17:16 |
Yeah, I know. He filmed in the video and probably sang BVs, but I'd like to know it for sure. |
| Scirocco1977 31.10.2004 17:23 |
Found the article. It is from the German magazine "Metal Attack" from April 1991. It is a special edition about Queen's 20th anniversary. The following excerpt is about Roger's solo stuff in 1987: "[...],doch alles, was er tatsächlich unternahm, war das Einsingen von Freddies 'Great Pretender'-Single." in English it would be: "[...] but all he [Roger] really did was singing for Freddies single 'Great Pretender'. |
| Adam Baboolal 31.10.2004 21:55 |
Yeah, I remember watching the Champions video and seeing two things from Brian. One, he says that he was writing stuff for Mother Love and then handing it to Freddie to sing. And two, prior to this part of the video he mentions the "wings of butterflies" line that he wrote and gave to Freddie in the song. Peace, Adam. P.S. Seb, you have always claimed on this site how John has sang on this or that. I believe that's what's being referred to. |
| Serry... 01.11.2004 07:41 |
Yeah, I know, Adam. But I still don't know why it wasn't as usually contributed to all Queen members... |
| Voice of Reason 2018 01.11.2004 07:56 |
Can I through my tuppence worth in? I thought that joint writing credits were a way of bringing them together and closing ranks when they realised Freddie was ill. Once he was gone it mattered less, so they let the credit go to Mercury and May. |
| Sebastian 01.11.2004 09:17 |
About Mother Love - I think something's clear: the credit May/Mercury is for a reason. Also in some recent (1 or 2 months ago) comment in his soapbox Brian mentioned Mother Love was his fave collaboration with Freddie along with one verse of Show Must Go On (which surely is different from the bridge with the "butterflies" line). So if Brian wrote lyrics, Fred wrote music. But imo, they must have co-written both. It's definitely not 100% either one of them anyway About my site - I HAD mentioned that but I don't anymore and even if I did, that was way off topic. |
| Serry... 02.11.2004 09:05 |
Voice of Reason 2003 wrote: Can I through my tuppence worth in? I thought that joint writing credits were a way of bringing them together and closing ranks when they realised Freddie was ill. Once he was gone it mattered less, so they let the credit go to Mercury and May.Well, how about 'You don't fool me', 'A Winter's Tale', 'It's A Beautiful Day', 'Let Me Live'? What's wrong with them then? |
| Voice of Reason 2018 02.11.2004 13:02 |
I haven't a fucking clue, love. I was just throwing my tuppence in. |
| Serry... 04.11.2004 17:02 |
Oh my God - stars were lucky to me today and Brian answered this question! So after the edit of his reply answer is: it was just his wish! |