| Biggest Band On The Planet 26.10.2004 20:39 |
I just noticed on the live at the bowl DVD that the wire to brians guitar got disconnected during his brigthon rock solo! and he had to run back to get it connected up again. Why didnt he use a radio mic like John did ? then he would'nt have been cut off in mid solo ? It was also the same at wembley he didnt use a radio mic either but john did. |
| Mr Mercury 26.10.2004 21:07 |
Why would Brian want to use a mic? You cant plug a mic (short for microphone btw...) into a guitar. You can however plug a radio TRANSMITTER into one just like John did. As for why he didnt use one, its probably just his preference to use a guitar lead. |
| KillerQueen840 26.10.2004 21:32 |
Hehehee... you accidentally wrote "brain." |
| FriedChicken 27.10.2004 05:31 |
Radio mics are lame, wires are Rock 'n Roll!. Plus Radio mics pick up Army transmissions, which can ruin your whole gig |
| Penetration_Guru 27.10.2004 06:16 |
Thanks Nigel, but I thought it was an Air Force signal you got? Going back to the topic, Freddie wouldn't have used a wireless mic if his baton one had worked - watch MK and you'll see that every time he has the baton he is wired, and the rest of the time he is not. The wireless ones were backup, and the fact that Freddie was still wired for The Works tour suggests he wasn't happy with them until '86. More surprisingly, it appears there was no spare baton at MK, otherwise wouldn't the wireless mics been attached to one? |
| Adam Baboolal 27.10.2004 09:28 |
Brian has started using a radio trans in the last few years. Don't know how often though. But it is true. Peace, Adam. |
| The King Of Rhye 31.10.2004 01:50 |
Well, if he went wireless, he couldn't use that spiffy curly guitar cable, could he? |
| iGSM 31.10.2004 01:57 |
Or the [x] kilometres of wire. |
| Scirocco1977 31.10.2004 09:05 |
I read somewhere that Justin S.S. had a hard time editing the vocals of Freddie (at M.K.) when he used the radio transmitted mic because it was quite a bad sound. So, better to be safe than sorry.. Further, I think that it truly looks more rock n roll when guitars are NOT radio transmitted. |
| Adam Baboolal 31.10.2004 10:01 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: I read somewhere that Justin S.S. had a hard time editing the vocals of Freddie (at M.K.) when he used the radio transmitted mic because it was quite a bad sound. So, better to be safe than sorry.. Further, I think that it truly looks more rock n roll when guitars are NOT radio transmitted.Well, that's 20 year old technology being criticised. If you want a comparison, listen to Brian's guitar from the Palace party bit he did on the roof of Buckingham Palace. I'd be willing to give a good system a chance. Justin was mainly concerned about the distortion that was introduced by the system. Curious that he had a bad time with something like that considering it's really easy to remove. Peace, Adam. |
| deleted user 31.10.2004 10:21 |
Well, Justin didn't really claim to have had a hard time. Here's his exact quote: "This question may be more about the show than the DVD ,but anyways. Why does Freddie change microphone on certain songs through the show? JSS - You should ask Peter Hince really but my understanding is that Freddie used a radio mic when he needed more freedom and he used the wired mic otherwise. The Radio mic distorts quite badly so I'm glad he didn't use it more. Obviously he needed a vocal mic at the piano too." |
| Scirocco1977 31.10.2004 10:58 |
Well the way I read it is that he is glad he didn't use the radio mic more often because it distorts quite badly... In my opinion this emphasizes my statement... |
| Music Man 31.10.2004 17:39 |
Radio mics pick up much more noise than a dependable cable. Also, like many of you have pointed out, instrument cables are just more "rock and roll"! |
| deleted user 01.11.2004 09:23 |
Well it says just that, but nothin' more. Explicitely stating that removing the distortion gave him a hard time would have been a bit hypochondriacal, as it is nothing but a standart procedure. However, the way Justin put it he merely said that the sparse use of radio mic spared him from additional work. It does not imply that the procedure was particularly nerve-wrecking. I don't wanna seem to be nitpicking, but in respect to Adam's post (above) it really makes a difference. |
| -fatty- 2850 01.11.2004 13:26 |
At the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert at Wembley Stadium in 1992, Joe Elliot of Def Leppard introduced Brian as the man with the curly hair and the curly guitar lead. Had Brian walked on stage without the curly guitar lead, the fans would have felt cheated. They would know doubt scream at Joe Elliot and pelt him with coins for telling such lies. Then 72,000 fans would leave Wembley and demand their money back. The concert would lose thousands upon thousands of pounds and Brian, Roger and John would probably be declared bankrupt and sent to prison where they would be bum raped on a daily basis by a big guy with tattoos and bad breath. Still, on the upside, we wouldn't have had to listen to David Bowie reciting the lord's prayer like the complete twat he is. fatty. |
| deleted user 01.11.2004 13:38 |
Amen. |
| Fenderek 01.11.2004 13:43 |
fatty wrote: Still, on the upside, we wouldn't have had to listen to David Bowie reciting the lord's prayer like the complete twat he is.LMAO! |
| earwig 01.11.2004 14:59 |
Speaking as a guitarist myself, in the early eighties, radio systems for guitar sounded CRAP! They were VHF, not like UHF now, and completely killed the inherent tone of your guitar. Bassists and acoustic guitarists got away with it more cos they don't use an overdriven tone. I now use a Sennheiser and I can't hear the difference between it and a cable! OH S**T!!! I've turned into a techno-nerd!!!!!! |
| Adam Baboolal 01.11.2004 22:13 |
Exactly! Peace, Adam. |
| Biggest Band On The Planet 23.11.2018 15:29 |
Anyone know why Brian used both a wireless and a standard mic for live at Wembley ? |
| Fireplace 23.11.2018 21:49 |
The early systems had an adverse effect on his guitar sound. Later on the wireless systems improved as others have said here and Brian figured out his treble booster had to be in signal chain in front of even the wireless, which is why the treble booster is now mounted to his guitar strap. |
| Penetration_Guru 23.11.2018 21:53 |
Biggest Band On The Planet wrote: Anyone know why Brian used both a wireless and a standard mic for live at Wembley ?I really don't give a shit, sorry. I've moved on since you first asked 14 years ago. |
| Fireplace 23.11.2018 21:55 |
The wireless takes the signal from the guitar TO the amp, the mic records the signal FROM the amp. Curly lead or wireless therefore have nothing to do with what happens to the signal when it comes from the amp. |
| bucsateflon 24.11.2018 08:52 |
radio transmission does not sound the same as a lead, not even these days. |
| Togg 26.11.2018 11:20 |
Fireplace wrote: The wireless takes the signal from the guitar TO the amp, the mic records the signal FROM the amp. Curly lead or wireless therefore have nothing to do with what happens to the signal when it comes from the amp.The way the signal arrives at the amp has a big impact on the way it sounds from the amp Brian uses wireless now becuase he likes the extra gain that the Sennhieser packs give the signal, in fact the team are working on producing that same gain boost for his studio set up to avoid using the wireless in the studio which is not ideal, back in those early days he simply didn't like the tone that much it was a different system. The reason his guitar cut out in ilton Keynes was actually a switch fault not the cable |
| Fireplace 26.11.2018 19:06 |
You're absolutely right, but you're arguing a non-existent point. The guy asked why Brian was using a wireless system AND and a mic, and I tried explaining that the mic needs to be there regardless of whether you use a lead or a wireless. Hardly rocket science, but apparently I failed miserably. |
| Togg 27.11.2018 09:08 |
Arrh yes I see your point |
| JomaDuckSoup 28.11.2018 08:14 |
link It has to do with the treble booster I think. It's all in the documentary. |
| Togg 29.11.2018 11:22 |
What has to do with the TB? the booster he was using back in the day is different to this one shown in the documentary, it was a Cornish one, but it was all about the reliablity and sound of the wireless systems back then, now he likes to the sound he gets because the Sennhiesher pack allows you to boost the signal from it and the reciever allows you to further adjust it at the amp end as well, The TB he uses now he has set to the max load, which also helps, but had he used this booster back then he would not have been able to get the same sound with a wireless system of the day The simple reason was he couldn't get the sound he liked back then, only now with the system he has, irronically he can't even use the latest Sennheiser system bacause it doens't do what the earlier model did. So he has a collection of the older models that they use. Nigel is building a system that will replicate the current live tone in the studio when he records |
| Togg 29.11.2018 11:22 |
What has to do with the TB? the booster he was using back in the day is different to this one shown in the documentary, it was a Cornish one, but it was all about the reliablity and sound of the wireless systems back then, now he likes to the sound he gets because the Sennhiesher pack allows you to boost the signal from it and the reciever allows you to further adjust it at the amp end as well, The TB he uses now he has set to the max load, which also helps, but had he used this booster back then he would not have been able to get the same sound with a wireless system of the day The simple reason was he couldn't get the sound he liked back then, only now with the system he has, irronically he can't even use the latest Sennheiser system bacause it doens't do what the earlier model did. So he has a collection of the older models that they use. Nigel is building a system that will replicate the current live tone in the studio when he records |