| Queenman!! 24.10.2004 07:50 |
I think the MK '82 concert is good but certainly not the best Queen produced. They had better realeased the full Japan 82 concert.Much better! I think also the disc two section with the "highlights of concerts" are not the best they have in the archives. Queenconcerts.com told all concerts of 82 ( Hot Space tour) were filmed so now i'm looking to a un-restored performance of Queen in Vienna. shit material What do you guys think? |
| Borhap80 24.10.2004 09:21 |
Well.... the Japan 82 one is not so good... So uninspiring ... |
| deleted user 24.10.2004 10:55 |
As far as I've heard a video master of the complete Japan-gig has yet to be found (correct me if I'm wrong). The Vienna material had to be bought from the ORF. I don't think there's much more of it around (maybe 10 minutes ?). (neither do I think that they tampered with it very much, so an "un-restored" version will essentially be the same). Also, the notion that all Hot Space gigs were filmed is news to me. Any other opinions ? |
| Adam Baboolal 24.10.2004 12:02 |
Read Simon Lupton's comments about what's available. Good info on setting things straight. link Peace, Adam. |
| deleted user 24.10.2004 12:08 |
Thanks a lot Thomas. I don't deny the possibility of all HS gigs existing on video, a good source for that particular info would be much appreciated though. |
| Shadysenator RHYE 24.10.2004 13:57 |
No no no not all Hot space shows were recorded!!!! Only a few of them. The story of all HS show were recorded on film is what P. freestone wrote in his book , but that's not true the shows recorded were these: MK Leiden (second night) Brussel (part of) Frankfurt Vienna (AOBTD - GSTQ) Tokyo LA (partly) Come on Queen would not give permission to all sorts of tv stations to record their show! And they surely would not film all there own shows , there would be so much footage which will never be used, und despite that it's really expensive to record a conecrt!!! Hope this will help your answer. |
| wstüssyb 24.10.2004 16:10 |
I've always felt Leeds was recorded? no? Aint it true Brain has his own copy on tape or so on that show? (Audio) from that link .. Our film researcher, Keith, contacted dozens of TV stations to see if they had any footage. The only one who came back with anything of real use, was ORF in Austria. They had made a music show about Queen's performance in Vienna. When we saw it we elected to licence the concert footage which included "Another One Bites The Dust", "We Will Rock You", "We Are The Champions" and "God Save The Queen". ORF were extremely helpful and we are talking to them about what other Queen material they have from other eras. However, on the whole buying footage from TV stations is frustrating. For one, a great deal of material has been thrown away by the stations - either for storage reasons or simply because, at the time, no one could envisage ever having a use for it again. So although it is possible that more of the Vienna show was filmed than we have here, that footage doesn't seem to exist any longer - although we'll keep looking! Secondly, buying licences like this is still very expensive, and that limits the amount we can obtain. |
| Plengel 24.10.2004 17:00 |
Queenman!! wrote: I think the MK '82 concert is good but certainly not the best Queen produced. They had better realeased the full Japan 82 concert.Much better! I think also the disc two section with the "highlights of concerts" are not the best they have in the archives. Queenconcerts.com told all concerts of 82 ( Hot Space tour) were filmed so now i'm looking to a un-restored performance of Queen in Vienna. shit material What do you guys think?I think one of the reasons that the picked the Milton Keynes concert for releasing is the fact that it is again also interesting for non Queen fans. The Milton Keynes Bowl has become a famous concert venue, so if other music-lovers see a DVD with a title like the newly released DVD, then the chance is bigger that they will buy it than when it was a concert recorded at "Elland Road Stadium" or "De Groenoordhallen" |
| Rich Tea 24.10.2004 17:25 |
I don't recall any cameras at Leeds but there may have been one hiding somewhere. I think there are a lot of myths about what was and wasn't recorded and what was recorded and kept. I should think Milton Keynes was possibly the only show filmed properly in its entirity that the masters still excist for! Shame because the performance at Leeds was better. BTW they soundchecked with Las Palabras ' at Leeds but it wasn't included in the show now that would have been an extra worth having. |
| deleted user 24.10.2004 17:50 |
Brian once stated that in retrospect he would have preferred Leeds to be filmed instead of Milton Keynes (that was before he saw the MK-performance and realized that it was a much better show than in his memory), which would indicate that Leeds wasn't filmed. |
| The Real Wizard 24.10.2004 18:07 |
Queenman!! wrote: Queenconcerts.com told all concerts of 82 were filmed so no i'm looking to a not restored performance of Queen in Vienna. What do you guys think?I think you shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet. We've only seen footage of two European 82 concerts. No band in their right mind would pay a crew to film 30 consecutive shows. |
| j0ck3 25.10.2004 03:22 |
Doesn't Tie Your Mother Down from Vienna appear on Rare Live? |
| the-rock 4283 25.10.2004 06:26 |
so it remains one of the great "ifs"...how would the "product" be if the source had been a concert that was regared as outstanding by the band and the audience...like leeds for example. how would this video have been? queen on mega fire? ;) |
| My hair's a disgrace 25.10.2004 11:50 |
I'm pleased as punch that the show has been released officially and in it's (supposed) entirety, the DTS and PCM stereo remasters on the DVD and the stereo on the CD are great. The second disc is a dissapointment. It gave me the impression that it was thrown together. Whilst researchers and QP may have put effort into finding the material, the presentation is lacking. Interviews: - part one - scarcely any material, interjected with concert footage to lengthen it a bit - part two - interesting, audio could have been cleaned up a lot better - part three - showed how the interviewers had been given a script of the same questions to ask, and how B & R's answers were the same as F's (eg: "what ever you get asked guys, hype up the light show !!"). Concert extracts - Japan - this could have been lifted directly from my Japan 82 DVD bootleg, complete with the "Queen Live in Japan" credits at the beginning that don't fit with the style of the rest of the MK DVD. If no master existed without these graphics couldn't they have faded in and given a generally more tidy presentation? There has been no obvious change to the audio either (also matches the "Rocking Osaka in 1982" bootleg). - Vienna - interesting to see this footage, even if the camera men should have been shot for such a bad job ! Again, I was disappointed to see that this hadn't been cleaned up at all - surely there are ways of improving the colour balance and granularity of this footage these days? All of this said, I'm still happy that it's been released. What confuses me though, is that a show such as Earls Court 77, that we know exists in good quality, is so often rejected for the same treatment and release. It's a fantastic show, OK with a few mic problems (which could in theory be overdubbed with vocals from other shows from the same tour if they exist). Most of us have an entirely watchable bootleg VCD or DVD of this show, and I'm sure would love to see some care and attention given to an official release. Maybe this is on the cards for Christmas 2006, after GVHIII next year .... |
| frank39 25.10.2004 13:02 |
don´t be so greedily, folks( right word for german word gierig? ). Hope so. At least Queen start to realize, tha they have a lot stuff, worth to be published. No more GH GVH1 GVH2, Best of.... DVD, No!! It´s Milton Keynes, at least, 22 years later ( shame on QP)!!!! If this one sells, and I´m shure it will, there will come more like Milton Keynes....and not only Hot Space shows. What do you expect? Shall they release their whole material at once? |
| frank39 25.10.2004 13:14 |
My hair´s a disgrace: You are so right. Why not Earls Court? It is so much more spectecular in pictures and sound. But I havn´t lost my hope until now. |
| My hair's a disgrace 25.10.2004 13:34 |
Has a poll been done before on whether Earls Court should be officially released? I'm guessing it will have been ... ? |
| Mcm 25.10.2004 13:58 |
Halfway through the first disc and thoroughly enjoying it. This is a Their benchmark performance as far as I'm concerned. By far the best commercially avaliable live material available at the moment. Noticing a few edits here and there - Now I'm here being a prime suspect at the moment; the guitar solo seems to have had a few bars added. Haven't checked original tapes yet (I own an original audience bootleg - the actual tapes used at the gig). Seems to be a bit of "Detail" added as well - a bit more synth here and there, and enhanced special effects. For example more repeats at the start of "Now I'm here" than could be heard if you had actually been at the gig. That said, i don't think it detracts from what is a stunning performance of songs from their catalogue. It's a fabulous showcase of how good they were at writing and performing live. We could do with a similar Kampuchea DVD or am i being greedy? |
| Mcm 25.10.2004 14:12 |
I'm sure Brian asks "Can you help us" immediately prior to LOML. Again, haven't checked the tapes yet. |
| Mcm 25.10.2004 14:39 |
I'm sorry if i'm boring anyone but this DVD is superb. Never knew that about Brian's guitar solo. He is breath-takingly good especially in Back Chat as Roger is in ATD. |
| Mcm 25.10.2004 15:30 |
A final question about this spectacular DVD concert. Does anyone know if even more footage exists? The lead-up to the BoRhap solo is slighty different to the version broadcast on "The Tube" which leads me to suspect that in some songs at least, we could have been given multi-angle. Verdict: 10/10 (and i haven't even started the extra's yet). Quite honestly, I already feel like i've had MORE than my seventeen quids worth. |
| agneepath! 11994 25.10.2004 15:42 |
haven't got it yet... thats the trouble with ordering it online... you can save yourself several pounds but have to wait a couple of days for them to deliver it. looking foward to it... although the extras look a touch disappointing. |
| TeoT 25.10.2004 16:00 |
To the extras from vienna. Their must be more then AOBTD - GSTQ vom Vienna 1982! On the Queen Hub you can find a tv report called "Queen - On Report (German TV - 1982)". These includes parts of the now released songs and some more songs for example Flash/The Hero or Tie Your Mother Down I see. Queen On Fire rocks!!! |
| Queenman!! 25.10.2004 16:47 |
Thanks Kris!! Such information is allways welcome! On which Queenhub can we find it ? ( the adress) |
| Queenman!! 25.10.2004 16:48 |
Thanks KillerChris!! Such information is allways welcome! On which Queenhub can we find it ? ( the adress) |
| juls 25.10.2004 19:00 |
hmmm, i still wonder if there is an eastern-egg somewhere on the dvds... does anybody know? |
| Carrots Of The Piratebean 25.10.2004 20:13 |
My hair's a disgrace wrote: What confuses me though, is that a show such as Earls Court 77, that we know exists in good quality, is so often rejected for the same treatment and release. It's a fantastic show, OK with a few mic problems (which could in theory be overdubbed with vocals from other shows from the same tour if they exist). Most of us have an entirely watchable bootleg VCD or DVD of this show, and I'm sure would love to see some care and attention given to an official release. Maybe this is on the cards for Christmas 2006, after GVHIII next year ....I too would love to see Earls Court released but without the mic problems being fixed. Such things should be left alone IMHO. I mean look at how many mistakes you pointed out in this DVD - I'd be the same with the Earls Court one. |
| Mr Mercury 25.10.2004 20:20 |
Agneepath! wrote: haven't got it yet... thats the trouble with ordering it online... you can save yourself several pounds but have to wait a couple of days for them to deliver it.Same here - thanks Amazon!! |
| VGB 25.10.2004 21:20 |
My hair's a disgrace wrote: Concert extracts - Japan - this could have been lifted directly from my Japan 82 DVD bootleg, complete with the "Queen Live in Japan" credits at the beginning that don't fit with the style of the rest of the MK DVD. If no master existed without these graphics couldn't they have faded in and given a generally more tidy presentation? There has been no obvious change to the audio either (also matches the "Rocking Osaka in 1982" bootleg).probably because the bootleg is lifted from the laserdisc release, so that probably where they got it. |
| The Real Wizard 26.10.2004 00:15 |
From day one, I've been hoping that the easter-egg would be the video of the Tokyo 82 Calling All Girls. They already gave us the audio, so I was just hoping... :) |
| goinback 26.10.2004 01:10 |
Um so has this indeed been released already?!? Is it out in the US? I keep seeing conflicting release dates...I thought it was going to be released today but now I'm not sure.... |
| YourValentine 26.10.2004 04:21 |
It's enjoyable to have another full show in DVD quality. To finally see/hear the previously missing songs is fantastic. Two things take away from the joy a bit: the camera lenses were so dirty that you see the smears during the whole film (which cannot be helped anymore) and sadly, the center channel is mute again. The audio CDs are copy controlled, therefore I did not buy them. |
| Benn 26.10.2004 05:50 |
>The audio CDs are copy controlled, therefore I >did not buy them. Forgive me here, but why would that make any difference? |
| ogre t raylot 26.10.2004 05:50 |
Not all the CDs are copy controlled - I was sent the CDs which came with the now-standard anti-copying message, but the discs didn't have CC.
Shop around, the recent Gomez album was the same, some were CC'd some were not.
YourValentine wrote: The audio CDs are copy controlled, therefore I did not buy them. |
| ogre t raylot 26.10.2004 06:04 |
Some CD players cannot play CDs with CC.
Some CC software distorts the sound.
Benn wrote: >The audio CDs are copy controlled, therefore I >did not buy them. Forgive me here, but why would that make any difference? |
| Bohardy 26.10.2004 06:53 |
Don't let Kevo hear you say that about the dirty camera lenses Barb. There'll be much scoffing and sneering coming from his direction. Those 'smears' or 'bits of dirt' or 'felt-tip pen marks' are 'lens flares/streaks', are unwanted artifacts caused by the filming of the bright lights in the lighting rig. Apparently. Either way, I agree it's bloody annoying. All in all it was "nice, but nothing special" (do you see what I did there?). A few moments made me smile, and reminisce about what a jolly good band those 4 boys were, but I've got to be honest and admit to getting bored towards the end of the show and at the end of watching the DVD itself with all its extras. There's only so many times you can watch CLTCL, AOBTD, WWRY, WATC. I can't see myself listening to the CD that much either. To be honest, as blasphemous as this may be to some people, I think I'd rather watch/listen to Live At Wembley, which is an opinion that I'm surprised I'd have. Oh yeah...The strangest moment on the DVD is during the backstage footage in the buildup to Flash. There's a moment (which is repeated with more clarity, and therefore isn't as funny, during one of the interview bits) when Fred raised his arms after getting out of the helicopter and he has what can only be described as a small herd of buffalo living in each armpit. Check out the hair! It's obscene. And what was it that John nearly got hit with during one of the opening songs? A green ball? Ummmm. 7/10 for me. |
| juls 26.10.2004 07:02 |
Cool Bohardy, same opinion here, got bored too towards the end. I started with Disc 2, I have to admit, and watched Disc 1 to Back Chat I think. "And what was it that John nearly got hit with during one of the opening songs? A green ball?" Yeah, saw that too. :)) And in one song he almost fell over Freddies microphone cable (no idea in which song it was) Well, typical John "Mr. Bean" Deacon :)) |
| YourValentine 26.10.2004 07:51 |
Okay, I apologise about the dirty camera lenses:) At least it's something that could not be helped and therefore nothing to get annoyed about. I did not get bored, I loved each moment of the show. Glory Days, indeed. I haven't yet watched Disc 2 but the concert is the most important part for me, anyway. If someone finds CDs which are not copy controlled, would you please tell me where I can buy them? |
| Mr Mercury 26.10.2004 10:19 |
Bohardy wrote: And what was it that John nearly got hit with during one of the opening songs? A green ball?I thought it was an empty bottle. And it was during "Action" Two things just slightly bother me - 1 If Brians mistake during the solo (another comical moment) was left in, then why wasnt Freddie's "this locality" moment during Fat Bottomed Girls? 2 Why did the cameraman at the side of the stage in the Vienna highlights have to be so high up? I started suffering from vertigo whilst watching it heheheheheheheh!! All in all I thought the whole DVD very good - especially "Back Chat" a song that I had never given so much thought to before but like Staying Power it had a life of its own on stage. Its a 9 out of 10 for me. |
| deleted user 26.10.2004 11:28 |
KillerChris wrote: To the extras from vienna. Their must be more then AOBTD - GSTQ vom Vienna 1982! On the Queen Hub you can find a tv report called "Queen - On Report (German TV - 1982)". These includes parts of the now released songs and some more songs for example Flash/The Hero or Tie Your Mother Down I see. Queen On Fire rocks!!!Flash/The Hero and TYMD do exist indeed. But I don't think there's heaps more of Vienna. |
| Shadysenator RHYE 26.10.2004 14:31 |
Well give this a thought: - If Flash and TYMD AOBTD WWRY WATC GSTQ were recorded from Vienna then the whole show must have been recorded!! Why recorded the beginning and end ??? That doesn't make sense!! Does it? Or Flash & TYMD were from Frnakfurt 82 Queen were during this part of the tour expirimenting with the track order and sometimes they'd played TYMD in the beginning so the Frankfurt could have been 2 tracks, btw. you can see on TYMD freddie's wearing his leather jacked some maybe were these from the concert opening!? And nothing more from FRANKFURT was recorded? |
| welshyyyyy 26.10.2004 15:03 |
when fred says about hot space, "it's only a bloody record , people get so excited about these things " PS this version of brighton rock is THE best version EVER ! in my humble opinion ! |
| mamamia 26.10.2004 17:47 |
I bloody enjoyed the MK dvd. They were truly on fire. you've seen the energy freddie has on stage, He never stops. Bit dissapointed with the camera shots on John though, you hardly saw him. I think they could have done better with equalizing the timing on each member, but apart from minor critisism, pure entertainment! |
| Snefru 26.10.2004 18:41 |
Hi all. Not ALL Queen concert in 1982 was filmed. It's a lot of work to do that. As know'n Milton Keynes was filmed in full, but that might be the only one on the European tour which was done like this. Profesionale I mean. Some of the opening tracks was filmed in Frankfurt, and those 10 minutte in Vienna. There was a film team with them for some days to make dokumentary, but NOT all concert was filmes. Just innervews & and some tracks mention. A few other 'bites' might exsist, but not so much. Mabey just use 1-3 cameras. I'm not sure of the US '82 dates. In Japan, the last concert was proffesionale filmed. Don't know about 'missing' master etc.. Sounds like a 'fake'. You don't just 'loseing' things like this. link |
| Biggest Band On The Planet 26.10.2004 21:58 |
Is it just me or does anyone else think the staying power video on the GH2 DVD looked better than on this DVD ? |
| Voice of Reason 2018 27.10.2004 07:28 |
And the CD arrived by post on Monday - the day it was released - three cheers for play.com! |
| Fenderek 27.10.2004 08:19 |
I don't know- I seem to remember a year ago we were all bitching that they don't release all those great, legendary gigs- Earls Court, both Hammersmiths, Houston, MILTON KEYNES, etc... now, when we got Milton Keynes, we're still bitching... "should be Earls Court", "lenses were dirty", "extras are crappy", this or that I don't like... I agree- I turned the thing off when WATC started- how many more times do I want to hear this song? None. But c'mon- the performance was brilliant and Freddie's voice... Fucking hell- Wembley isn't anywhere near that! Even when they made a mistake here (and they made quite few)- overall energy made them get away with it easily! I don't know- what the f**k do we expect- Truro'71 in DVD...? And- I didn't buy this DVD for extras- I bought it to have Milton Keynes concert in wanderful quality (don't give a shit about 5.1- even in stereo it's much better than boots) and I got it- I'm happy, I was waiting for a loooong time for sth like this (since MIH?). Already want more... So is Live Killers era most likely next? |
| the-rock 4283 27.10.2004 08:45 |
well said fenderek! this is the first really "new" release since i don't know...and its a good one. nothing special. but very ok! an at least i and many other people hadn't seen it until now! (didn't want to download it with ISDN! ;) ) Live Aid is next! ;) and then hopefully somthing from the live killers era....at least there seems to be enough footage that could be good enough quality wise. (japan, hammy) |
| Benn 27.10.2004 09:35 |
Remember that the filming was done by a local Austrian TV station and their access to the band would have been limited in terms of what they were actually allowed to film time-wise. You'll notice at shows that the press photographers are usually only allowed to shoot the first couple of songs and are then shifted out from in front of the stage. This is because the management company will only allow the band to be distracted for a certain time - unless of course, the band has their own photographer who is contractually allowed to shoot "the lot". |
| Jimi 27.10.2004 09:47 |
Being fortunate enough to see both the Leeds and MK shows i was delighted to see it finally released in all its glory.I think its a really fine effort. The quality is excellent and the sound is fabulous. (as it was on the nights)far superior to the tired lazy sounding Wembley stuff. This breathes life into in some cases mediocre songs. Check out Back Chat.Chunky riffs all over and gut wrenching kick drums are back. Queen still could cut it in 82 even if the material was getting a bit wobbly.Gotta agree though - there's very little point in disc 2. What is the point of seeing WATC from 2 miles away with poor sound transfer when you've just sat through MK. Baffling. Oh and don't run through the same photos twice in the gallery!!thats cheap!! Overall- 9 / 10. Bring on the next. |
| 3137prof 27.10.2004 11:14 |
Just a couple of gripes about the editing of the concert. During 'Action' it is sung virtually as a duet between Roger & Freddie, but Roger is only seen singing for about 3 seconds (a nd then it's during the chorus) with the camera on Freddie for the rest of the time. And when Freddie introduces Morgan Fisher on piano there is a very quick glimpse of him from a long way away even though Freddie is taking the piss out of his clothes. Or am I just being picky. |
| deleted user 27.10.2004 12:40 |
Yep, they should officially release Any 70s show, Earls Court would be an excellent choice!!! |
| Rich Tea 27.10.2004 13:24 |
Well having watched it twice in its entirity I have to say what an excellent job the producers have done when you compare it to the edited broadcast. I was there in '82 and it all came flooding back! I don't want to compare it to Wembley because Wembley was more of an "event" than Milton Keynes but its the imperfections on this (MK) DVD which make it almost Perfect!! I had forgotton the Anti Nowhere League were on the bill at MK they sound f**king awesome during Rogers interview lol - SO WHAT! |
| Adam Baboolal 27.10.2004 13:41 |
For those not happy with the editing of the picture: Remember that they didn't have camera feeds to edit with. They only had what was shot on the night by the camera men. Blame them. Hats of to Fenderek. This is exactly what I've been saying for a long time now. It's the spoilt kid mentality - I want, I want, I want. Then when a wanted item is delivered, suddenly it's unsatisfactory and why this show? etc. I'm just happy to get anything like the MK dvd. I'm really thankful that they still bother to deliver things like this. Peace, Adam. |
| deleted user 27.10.2004 14:12 |
S van der Veen wrote: Well give this a thought: - If Flash and TYMD AOBTD WWRY WATC GSTQ were recorded from Vienna then the whole show must have been recorded!! Why recorded the beginning and end ??? That doesn't make sense!! Does it?TV channels are very often only allowed to film a certain amount of time or a certain number of songs from a concert. Given that Vienna was filmed by the ORF, it would make sense. Regardless of how much was actually filmed on the night, these songs are most probably all that's left in the ORF's archives. |
| Biggest Band On The Planet 27.10.2004 19:56 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: For those not happy with the editing of the picture: Remember that they didn't have camera feeds to edit with. They only had what was shot on the night by the camera men. Blame them. .How come the TV version of the concert showed different shots ? like at the end during god save the Queen they have a camera looking up from the audience, that was'nt in the TV version! |
| deleted user 28.10.2004 05:56 |
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| Regor 28.10.2004 06:39 |
I've been waiting for a proper release of MK since I first saw the snippets of that concert in the Magic Years-Videos. It arrived yesterday - way too late after I've read all the praise online. But anyway, I locked myself in front of the TV and it hit me BIG time ! The show, the voice, the sound and the atmosphere - great ! The second disc is a bit irritating though, as has been discussed already - the Vienna footage is absolutely sub-standard. But anyway, as Fenderek said: it is great to have MK in its entirety, its a wonderful concert, now on to the next ! "So while EMI make sure it hits the shelves on time, we get a short break before the discussions begin again. There are loads of ideas for DVD releases - the problem is deciding which one is next…" Simon Lupton September 2004 Sounds good ! Bring on the Live Killers-era ! |
| icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 28.10.2004 07:34 |
hey guys, i'm from Brazil, and it's not released here until november 9th (very looking forward to it) so, i was watching the videos from the "On fire" minisite on Queenonline, (Somebody to love / Under Pressure / Fat Bottomed / Sheer Heart...and..... well, is it just me, or there were few shots of John??.... at least on these snippets i didn't see him quite often... |
| deleted user 28.10.2004 12:25 |
KillerChris wrote:To the extras from vienna. Their must be more then AOBTD - GSTQ vom Vienna 1982! On the Queen Hub you can find a tv report called "Queen - On Report (German TV - 1982)". These includes parts of the now released songs and some more songs for example Flash/The Hero or Tie Your Mother Down I see. Queen On Fire rocks!!!I have the footage of Flash/The Hero and TYMD, but it's included in something called "Queen '84", not "Queen - On Report". Not good quality at all though, so I would have been much happier if they restored that footage instead of the songs from Tokyo 82. But the dvd is very good anyway, especially the Milton Keynes concert of course! I just think that Roger's snare sounds kind of strange... Have anyone else noticed this too? |
| Rich Tea 28.10.2004 12:43 |
I don't understand why the substandard Vienna footage has been used at all! Would have preferred the full Japan concert even if it was just lifted straight off the lazerdisc release. Oh well still very happy with MK |
| EddieVanHalen 28.10.2004 13:24 |
<FONT SIZE= "4"><font color= Vermilian>OsKaR_84 (a.k.a. FredM) wrote:Yeah I noticed that about the snare drum too, it sounds very dull and muffled.KillerChris wrote:To the extras from vienna. Their must be more then AOBTD - GSTQ vom Vienna 1982! On the Queen Hub you can find a tv report called "Queen - On Report (German TV - 1982)". These includes parts of the now released songs and some more songs for example Flash/The Hero or Tie Your Mother Down I see. Queen On Fire rocks!!!I have the footage of Flash/The Hero and TYMD, but it's included in something called "Queen '84", not "Queen - On Report". Not good quality at all though, so I would have been much happier if they restored that footage instead of the songs from Tokyo 82. But the dvd is very good anyway, especially the Milton Keynes concert of course! I just think that Roger's snare sounds kind of strange... Have anyone else noticed this too? I think that the sound of the Milton Keynes cd is badly mixed, because the snare drum and hi hatts and cymbals are not loud enough in the mix, sometimes they are hardly noticeable during louder bits in songs. And I also don't like the whole sound that mich, because the cd seems to lack mid range, it's has been mixed very bass heavy. |
| Adam Baboolal 28.10.2004 21:11 |
EddieVanHalen wrote: Yeah I noticed that about the snare drum too, it sounds very dull and muffled. I think that the sound of the Milton Keynes cd is badly mixed, because the snare drum and hi hatts and cymbals are not loud enough in the mix, sometimes they are hardly noticeable during louder bits in songs. And I also don't like the whole sound that mich, because the cd seems to lack mid range, it's has been mixed very bass heavy.Oh, oh. About the mid-range comment... EVH, do you feel the same about the 2001 remaster albums that follow after hot space etc.? If so, damn. That said, I haven't been disapointed with The Game, so I'm really wondering now... Peace, Adam. |
| The Real Wizard 29.10.2004 00:23 |
Biggest Band On The Planet wrote: How come the TV version of the concert showed different shots ? like at the end during god save the Queen they have a camera looking up from the audience, that was'nt in the TV version!Just because a piece of footage is shown during GSTQ doesn't mean it was filmed exactly at that time. |
| Jimi 03.11.2004 08:53 |
I also felt the drum sound was a tad bloated and muffled on the dvd. I can recall the sound being very crisp at the gig and on the tv version with a lot of whip to the snare sound. The best i've heard to be fair.Also is it just me or is that the worst lighting rig they had in the 80's? I thought 79,80,84 were far better efforts. It looks completely out of place there. |
| claire! 14985 03.11.2004 08:57 |
hi everyone! i still enjoyed watching the MK concert but i prefer the magic concert at Wembley '86. |
| willem-jan 8923 03.11.2004 09:05 |
Jimi wrote: Also is it just me or is that the worst lighting rig they had in the 80's? I thought 79,80,84 were far better efforts. It looks completely out of place there.The guys themselves think different, if you watch the interviews ;) |
| Jimi 03.11.2004 09:18 |
Yeah i know :) but they would wouldn't they!!! i remember chatting to 2 road crew guys at St James Park in 86 and they were saying that the band were unhappy with the Magic tour rig and it was not as effective as they thought it would be.I would agree with that. Looked like a box of smarties to me! |
| Voice of Reason 2018 03.11.2004 09:42 |
I also noticed that they seem to go out of their way to use the name Milton Keynes as rarely as possible! The name: On fire, live at the Bowl, certainly leaves Milton Keynes out. The back refers to the MK bowl! Any of you Milton Keynes folk out there got an opinion on the this? Cheers, The Voice (from Harpenden!) |
| Mkls 03.11.2004 10:21 |
" have the footage of Flash/The Hero and TYMD, but it's included in something called "Queen '84", not "Queen - On Report". Both "Musikszene '82" and "Queen '84" included the Vienna footage - these are early works of DoRo-recycling. |
| Adam Baboolal 03.11.2004 11:04 |
Well, I've listened to the bootleg (Command performance) and the snare is a little sharper. But not by much. This current dvd mix with both the PCM and DTS 5.1 is really great. After EVH said about the mid-range thing, I got worried because we'd covered this idea with the post-82 albums of the 2001 remasters. But it's nowhere near that. Peace, Adam. |
| Adam Baboolal 03.11.2004 11:04 |
double-post |
| Jimi 03.11.2004 11:34 |
Yeah the 5.1 mix is a really top job even allowing for what i beleive is an overdone bottom end on the overall sound.Its more satisfying than the Wembley effort. I think Bowl is deliberately avoiding the Milton Keynes thing. It gives the impression of being 'hollywood' bowl i guess. I can't remember at the time it being referred to as MK Bowl by anyone??? Milton Keynes has a reputation and it maybe isn't R n R enough for them!!!!. Its only a bloody venue etc....... |
| Serry... 15.11.2004 16:06 |
'Live in Japan' over 'Queen on fire' disk 2 is so damned edit. I can hardly imagine how they could lost some videos from an OFFICIAL release! It was the first officialy released Queen's live (even before Montreal's show) and it's still available over some shops with rare music videos, but QP Ltd. couldn't research a little bit more? I have VHS with pretty similar quality and it contains more songs. Interview with Brian and Roger was edit too. When I was watching disk 2 I have realized why they didn't release 'Earls Court show' or something from those years - there's no enough stuff for that kind of bonus disks. |