A non-worthile for download track but someone asked me for 'Ogre Battle Forgotten Intro', so here it is over my page. Try this link: link (in the window click again for 'serry.pochtamt.ru/ogre.mp3')
I didn't edit it, but there are some breaks that can be edit out. Actually it can be not a BBC session outtake as some bootlegs says (like 'Golden Demos' - that one includes only one demo really 'The Night Comes Down', because it's probably exists in demo version only, the rest of CD are not demos), but just a brief live snippet (for instance from Oxford live soundcheck, 1973) though sounds like studio outtake in bad quality and has no audience noises. Not something you'd like to hear again and again! But anyway as some sources says it's a BBC outtake - let it be, I can't prove or refuse both theories!
Maybe. GB said it's not. And why then the BBC Ogre Battle sound quality is much better than on it? Though I always thought it's studio outtake, but still not sure.
Because Ogre Battle has been released on CD, and that intro is a fifteenth generation taped copy converted to mp3.
deleted user 23.10.2004 19:45
Mmmm... one of the first stories I read on the net, ages ago, was about this "lost intro".
It said that they couldn't use it because the very beginning of the original tape got ruined; they had to removed it from the "At the beeb" version, in the 1989 Band of Joy release.
That's why the intro has worse quality than the rest of the song.
But I'm sure John Stuart can tell us more about it, once again, since he researched a lot about BBC tracks in past.
I hope he'd tell us. There's some other things about their BBC situation that I don't know. About different lyrics to 'See What A Fool I've Been', 'We Will Rock You' version etc. Sometimes I think we know much more about their unreleased songs than released ones!
Umm... His ambitions and his knowledges are different things to me. Anyway I dunno...
deleted user 24.10.2004 17:42
GB said it was not ???
Well, he must have had a change of mind recently then, cause he wrote following in the Jan 2002 issue of the good ol' RC:
"Meanwhile, the drama of a further take of Brian's "Son And Daughter" (a song 20 years ahead of its time) and Freddie's "Ogre Battle" tale from "Queen II", are retained in impressive fashion. The original BBC recording contains a lengthy intro section not featured on the 1989 Band Of Joy CD version. Evidently it was not possible to include the so-called 'Forgotten Intro' due to the original BBC recording having been damaged."
Chapter closed, I'd say.
I wonder too. I didn't ask even if it's BBC or not :) But actually I don't know why most of you are so sure about it, have you seen BBC master tapes or what?
No. I have not seen nor heard the BBC master tapes. But Ogre Battle was broadcasted in its unedited form, and I have a (poor) copy of that broadcast (pre-1989).
I know there is also an Ogre Battle acetate from the BBC version but I do not know wheter it has the full version, the AT THE BEEB/BBC edit or yet another edit. Perhaps Ron can spare some light about it.
Well, Ron had commented about it on another thread: link
I quote him: "[...] You might also add the edited Ogre Battle bbc version which is on a Trident 7" acetate (runs 3:04 min). It's not edited in a way as on At The Beeb!"