trustno1 18.10.2004 05:18 |
Does anyone else agree with me that Mr Bad Guy is absolutely terrible? I can't figure out if it's down to Freddie's dodgy songwriting or Mack's euro-pop production. I think a bit of both. It certainly does feel very 'thin' texture-wise, and some of the songs are just awful (My Kind of Lover, Fooling Around, etc.) Probably Freddie at his technical best in terms of vocals, tho. Not swamped in all that reverb (a la Innuendo). Nice and crisp. Lovely! |
Little_Queenie 18.10.2004 05:25 |
trustno1 wrote: Does anyone else agree with me that Mr Bad Guy is absolutely terrible? I can't figure out if it's down to Freddie's dodgy songwriting or Mack's euro-pop production. I think a bit of both. It certainly does feel very 'thin' texture-wise, and some of the songs are just awful (My Kind of Lover, Fooling Around, etc.) Probably Freddie at his technical best in terms of vocals, tho. Not swamped in all that reverb (a la Innuendo). Nice and crisp. Lovely!I don't agree it's terrible, actually I like it pretty much. Mr. Bad Guy, Your Kind Of Lover, There Must Be More To Life Than This etc. Good songs. |
FriedChicken 18.10.2004 05:32 |
yeah it sucks. 2 or 3 good songs. The rest sucks |
gabriel79 18.10.2004 09:39 |
i dont't think it sucks.if you compare it with a 70s queen album it sucks but it contains that kind of songs that freddie used to write in the 80s.i think it sound too "dance" |
Gunpowder Gelatine 18.10.2004 10:08 |
I don't think it's terrible, it's just missing something. Some songs are great, but others are too dancey for my liking. |
Daburcor? 18.10.2004 10:35 |
I love it! Call me a 'stepford'(oooooh scaaaaaary) if you want, But I like all of the songs on the album. |
deleted user 18.10.2004 10:48 |
I think its a goo album, the songs have good potetial but the backing instruments and things are a bit pants, my favorite is Mr.badguy. |
egret 18.10.2004 10:50 |
I like it, actually love it, for its mix of happy music and sad lyrics. It's great in a campy sort of way. I've chosen to believe that was an intentional quality. It's also really really great as background music for doing housework - high energy, cheerful, singalong stuff. I've heard the acoustic cover of "Mr. Bad Guy" performed by Gene Cawley that is referenced here: link I heard him do it at a reading, so I don't know what the download version sounds like, but the acoustic version is interesting. "Mr. Bad Guy" without the humorous orchestral effects is a dirge of self-pity. It changed my perception of the song. --Egret |
Sonia Doris 18.10.2004 10:55 |
i can´t say it´s crap... but on a scale of 1 to 10, i´d give it a 3...mainly because of freddie (2 credits for the composer, 1 for the songs). but, compared to normal crap - on the same scale, it would climb up to 5, i guess... i would certainly prefer tmotbq to mrbguy... |
toodey 18.10.2004 12:12 |
its one of my favourite songs.. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 18.10.2004 12:16 |
Its absolutely terrible but the vocals are nice crisp and lovely???? (eh??) It was what Freddie wanted to do, its not bad by any means, its just not what Queen fans were used to, and its still better than the shit we get thrown at us these days. |
Dubroc 18.10.2004 12:18 |
I used to think the Mr.Bad Guy songs were average. Nothing special. Untill I got the FM box and I listened to the tracks again. The demo's and other recordings like the Instrumentals did shine a different on it. Now I love the songs! There Must Be More To Life Than This is one of my fav. |
gabriel79 18.10.2004 12:50 |
Crazy_Little_Thing_Called_Sonia wrote: i can´t say it´s crap... but on a scale of 1 to 10, i´d give it a 3...mainly because of freddie (2 credits for the composer, 1 for the songs). but, compared to normal crap - on the same scale, it would climb up to 5, i guess... i would certainly prefer tmotbq to mrbguy...what is "tmotbq"? |
Rotwang 18.10.2004 14:59 |
Mr. Bad Guy is bad. It sounds like Freddie went in the studio with a hand held keyboard and a piano and made an album. It kind of makes you wonder how much the Queen sound comes from Brian. Take Made in Heaven from the MIH album. That is the way that song should have sounded. I just think Freddie didn' take the time to make a high quality album. He said himself he was rushed because of the Queen album and tour. Roger's ealy solo albums were cheesy as well. |
Serry... 18.10.2004 15:14 |
I can't understand when someone says Mr Bad Guy, Hot Space, Flash Gordon are crap... Hey, people, would you like if Queen'd make about 50 like Queen II albums? Let's listen to some other bands who's doing the same stuff through the years and can't stop! Hot Space wasn't the best album, but it was different to what they did before and after and you have something to choose! Same about Mr Bad Guy - it's Freddie's solo album and he did it in the way he wanted. Can you imagine that some non-Queen fans bought it and enjoyed? I can and I know such guys! |
Perry 18.10.2004 15:15 |
I believe 'tmotbq' stands for The March of The Black Queen, a song from Queen II. Yeah I like some of the tracks, I personally prefer the 'Freddie Mercury Album' but thats just my opinion. |
Penis - Vagina 18.10.2004 15:16 |
I'm in the middle on this one. I think most of the songs are great, but do suffer from weak arrangements, and the synthesizer work really sounds dated and cheesy. I can't help but enjoy a song like the title track.. it's incredibly catchy and the intro is fab. I think not only Queen's Made In Heaven album, but also some of the 1992 remixes prove that the songs themselves are really nice ideas... just not fully realized at the time. |
Giacco 73 18.10.2004 15:26 |
Serry Funster wrote: I can't understand when someone says Mr Bad Guy, Hot Space, Flash Gordon are crap... Hey, people, would you like if Queen'd make about 50 like Queen II albums? Let's listen to some other bands who's doing the same stuff through the years and can't stop! Hot Space wasn't the best album, but it was different to what they did before and after and you have something to choose! Same about Mr Bad Guy - it's Freddie's solo album and he did it in the way he wanted. Can you imagine that some non-Queen fans bought it and enjoyed? I can and I know such guys!Totally agree. I really love Mr Bad Guy! Wonderful songs and amazing vocals,maybe Freddie at his best.Pure Freddie! |
deleted user 18.10.2004 17:04 |
I love it... |
LiveAidQueen 18.10.2004 18:16 |
It's good. |
crowley 19.10.2004 09:44 |
"Mr Bad Guy" is quite good - despite "There Must Be More To Life Than This", which I hate and the starnge version of "Living On My Own" (I prefer the radio version). Oh and "I Was Born To Love You" is better in Queen version. Rest is OK. You must remember that Freddie's solo carrier was everything he could have done with Queen but he wouldn't like them to do it (because they were a live rocking band and in the 80s Freddie was very interested in dance pop music, look on his suit from the videoclip "I Was Born o Love You" pure 80s). BTW I'm not f*cking Stepford :) |
Adam Baboolal 19.10.2004 09:53 |
Yeah, I feel the same as DF. Some good songs on the album - just weak in those mentioned areas. And of course some songs shine, given the right arrangements. Just look at the MIH revisited tracks. Peace, Adam. |
Oberon 19.10.2004 10:02 |
I think Fred purposefully kept away from the Queen style. I think he said that he didn't want the others on the record or it would become a Queen album. Look at Barcelona. Obviously writing for montserrat had a large influence, but that was deliberately removed from Queen. So, when MIH is done and Brian is let loose in the Queen way, of course the tracks will be completely different, and benefit from the synergy of the quartet that they all acknowledged. |
Fenderek 19.10.2004 12:30 |
I dislike the whole record apart from two tracks: "More To Life" and "Love Me Like There's No Tommorrow"... Otherwise- crap if you ask me... Sorry Fred...;) |
juls 19.10.2004 12:44 |
The best thing on this album is the sond. It is quite good mixed down. The quality of the arrangements isn't that bad. Unfortunately the synthesizers used on the record and the drum sound are not first class. Apart from that, some lyrics are weak. |
Regor 20.10.2004 08:18 |
Partly very good songs, lyrics are so typical of Freddie... struggling to find the love of his life, or just indulging himself knowingly in utter nonsense. :-) Agree with juls, the equipment sounds cheap. He wanted to make a pop-record. So IMO it's pretty useless to debate that it would have sounded better as a rockalbum. Which leads us to the MIH-Versions. IMHO they shouldn't have done it in the first place. I know I'm gonna get slaughtered for that. After all a good album - The guitar-sound is crap, though. Even for a pop-record. |
Sonia Doris 20.10.2004 09:05 |
what is "tmotbq"? The March of the Black Queen |
Sonia Doris 20.10.2004 09:07 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Yeah, I feel the same as DF. Some good songs on the album - just weak in those mentioned areas. And of course some songs shine, given the right arrangements. Just look at the MIH revisited tracks. Peace, Adam.yeah, that´s right. anyway, from freddie´s solo career i would prefer the barcelona album and in my defense and time... |
Libor2 20.10.2004 10:17 |
I for myself don't like MBG album too much, but it's my problem after all. I think Freddie wanted it exactly as it is - he tried to do something different from Queen - and thus he did disco album. In fact - and here I agree with what was said here - it's (thanks to Freddie's voice and composing) not bad work comparing to lot of crap we've been hearing around all the time. Most I like title song and Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow. |
crowley 20.10.2004 14:50 |
Damn I guess I have the incomplete version (I've got a MC version) because I have only 10 tracks and definitely I don't have "Love Me Like..." and "..More Time" |
Oberon 21.10.2004 06:52 |
Regor wrote: Which leads us to the MIH-Versions. IMHO they shouldn't have done it in the first place. I know I'm gonna get slaughtered for that.I agree. If the rumours are true, there are other demos which could have been used and finished off for the MIH album which would have been a better end result IMO. It's always bothered me a bit that they used existing solo stuff on MIH. I love the versions they produced, but I think if they'd worked on "old" unreleased demos, then that would've given the MIH album even more credit. |
Martin Packer 21.10.2004 07:32 |
I agree with Bohemian. And, while I'm not averse to multiple versions of things, the MIH reworkings added nothing I wanted added. I happen to think MBG is under-rated and that the feel of it was right for the time (and just what Freddie wanted). And I think he ultimately came back energised because of it. |
iGSM 21.10.2004 08:50 |
I'm adamant that I've been listening to the Queen version of Mr Bad Guy..unless some wanker has got the Mr. Bad Guy copy, stripped it of the orchestra and added some l33t, grungy guitars, bass, drums. Kudos. Blasted Queen and Freddie particular with his rushing about....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! |