daniboy 07.10.2004 14:57 |
I'v just watched the video clip "scandal" (for the 100000 time-my favourit) and on the last scene a man is holding a newspaper-and it is written "next scandal is coming soon". Do you think it was freddie's idea?? is it a black joke or something??? |
daniboy 07.10.2004 15:21 |
I think that its is one of the examples of freddie's mistirious.... i think it is connected to his coming death... |
LiveAidQueen 07.10.2004 16:23 |
I think it's a joke...Some look for something more in the scene... |
Brian_Mays_Wig 08.10.2004 02:48 |
To be quite honest Barry, I always thought that the next scandal might have had something to do with Freddies ilness! |
josue 14398 08.10.2004 12:24 |
Don't take things too seriously. It was just a joke. |
FaN_MU 08.10.2004 16:50 |
daniboy Where do you live in Israel? :) |
daniboy 08.10.2004 18:20 |
Used to live in Nahariya but now In Tel aviv. Why? |
willem-jan 8923 08.10.2004 18:24 |
I'm sure this whole song is about AIDS! It's so obvious, absolutely no doubt about that. Same with Liar, that's also about AIDS. It's about Freddie lying 'bout the fact he had AIDS.... |
daniboy 08.10.2004 18:45 |
And you mr. FaN_MU??? |
daniboy 08.10.2004 18:49 |
Im my opinion, Freddie, who was known for being a very big humoristic..... just invented a black joke.... on himself... |
Brian_Mays_Wig 09.10.2004 01:56 |
willem-jan wrote: I'm sure this whole song is about AIDS! It's so obvious, absolutely no doubt about that. Same with Liar, that's also about AIDS. It's about Freddie lying 'bout the fact he had AIDS....Shut the fuck up. |
Azmadlyflex 09.10.2004 04:17 |
woWoWO WO!! easy wid da silencing of one another!! you know Queen lyrics is the most humane of all lyrics that has come out of the musical world... so it relates to most of us if not all of us, and when somthing tragic has happened to the creator we kinda think it must realate to the creator aswell!! before we drift rememba what I said about lyrics being humanely relating... when they write a song its more than just rythms its about their poetry, Queen music from Liar to scandal is based on true events of others that they have simplified in their geniuses to re-create on music,, (I should know am a songwriter too) its an act of God or modern hippy powers that those poetry eventually haunts reality... but apart from the last two albums being Inuendo and made in heaven it was all just songs they have created. non of them was a prophecy lol!! |
LiveAidQueen 09.10.2004 07:15 |
Well it's about Brian and Anita isn't it? |
BackToHuman 09.10.2004 07:32 |
i don't think it was Freddie's idea. watching GVHII, listening to the commentaries, and watching the behind the scenes footage, i think it's quite clear that the whole band thought the video a stupid idea, and at certain points in the behind the scenes footage, i swear i can see a look on Freddie's face that just screams "God, I wish I could come up with something better for this bloody song". so, i don't think any of them were likely to contribute to this particular video much. |
Scirocco1977 09.10.2004 11:23 |
I think Fred was just in a bad shape that day... I take the song literally, it is just about the press invading private lives of celebrities. One dull video for sure. And Fred had quite a bad make-up. Compared to the Breakthru video, he looked really ill. |
deleted user 09.10.2004 11:37 |
Still can't get the paper showers on brian's solo. |
crowley 09.10.2004 12:31 |
"Scandal" was in 100% written by Brian May, so where the heck could been there the lyrics about Freddie's AIDS? Also, someone said, that "Liar" is about AIDS - truly a nonsense! This song is from 1972 Freddie didn't "come out" then with his sexuality and definitely it was too early even too think about the existence of such an illness as the global threat. "Made In Heaven" was compiled from stuff of 1980s and the only one song, which is about dying (not particulary about AIDS) is "Mother Love" written by Freddie and Brian. Please don't try to connect _every_ song with Freddie's ilness because in the future we will read that "Keep Yourself Alive" _also_ was about AIDS ... paranoic... |
Scirocco1977 09.10.2004 13:12 |
Dear crowley, since you are quite new to the forum (so am I), don't take these things too serious.. check out any of the posts here and you see that most of it is tongue in cheek. A running gag that all Queen songs are either about AIDS or homosexuality. Get used to it, there's no other way round. |
daniboy 09.10.2004 14:05 |
i realy didnt want you all to be so mad about it..... it was just a thougt of mine.... we all know that in his last songs freddie did thougt about his coming death and that this line on the news paper was a black joke about it since he used to joking a lot about himself and about every thing. |
FaN_MU 09.10.2004 15:07 |
daniboy I'm from Holon. It's realy nice to meet a Queen fan here in Israel. :) Here's my icq number - 76050174 |
Jimmy Dean 09.10.2004 19:34 |
HeMaToSe_SuInA<font size=1><br>[aka HeM] wrote: There are a plenty of fucking paranoics who think that every Freddie song is related with AIDS, gay lovers, homosexuality or Mary Austin. Just ignore them, or you'll just get furious with 'em. Once somebody said here that We Are The Champions is a gay song, and the "key line" is "But commited no crime". Grrrrrr at these paranoics...I think that was me... and I stick by it, because it is. But it must be understood that Freddie did not write a song about gay prode called We Are The Champions, he wrote a song about overcoming life's obstacles and prevailing through ridicule. The underlying factor, the one thing that gives the song its "gay" signature is that Freddie's obstacles at the time was the acceptance of his sexuality. He wrote the song in very general form, but it was his personal turmoil that drove him to compose those words. If you'd like, I'll write a thesis paper on the subject. I was an A English student! For those he think Queen songs are about AIDS, you're idiots! Why would they write songs about AIDS... it hardly affected them at the time. If a Queen song was about AIDS, it had to be in the Miracle, Innuendo or Made In Heaven album... Miracle has absolutely nothing, Innuendo...maybe I'm Going Slightly Mad or Ride The Wild Wind, Made In Heaven...maybe Mother Love. Those are the only AIDS related songs I can think of, if they are in that case... and they most probably aren't or might contain a few refernces to the disease at most. Freddie was a very private guy... he knew that if he wrote a song that even related to aids somehow... the papers would be all over it. He may have even vetoed a few queen songs out for that reason too. Queen were a clever band in that they never gave too much away... |
toodey 09.10.2004 20:14 |
The song was made when freddie had aids and the papers were printing stuff about it. freddie was fed up with it so he sang this song. Are you a queen fan or not???? |
crowley 10.10.2004 03:57 |
Toodey - you think that being Queen fan is equal to looking for AIDS - realted motives in every song? As for "Scandal", during the holidays my friend popped in to my house and I showed him the videoclip for "Scandal", then I briefly translated lyrics to him (we live in Poland) and he said the same: maybie this song is AIS - related? Maybe Freddie's ilness was that scandal? Pawel is a Queen - newbie (he's far more interested in this rapper, Nana) and he "did invent" this ridicolous idea, just as you - Queen fans, Queen "pros"... Goddamit. And YEAH YEAH YEAH Lazing on a sunday faternoon was about AIDS oh and thx to the guy who alerted me about this foolishness |
daniboy 10.10.2004 11:40 |
You are getting on my nerves guys.... i just claimed that the next scandal will be freddies death... are you all english readers??? |
Scirocco1977 10.10.2004 12:26 |
I think daniboy is right. There are obvious hints about Freddie's death. And I guess we have to see those innuendoes as that. It is not about a person having AIDS, it is about a man knowing he will have to pass away before his time. Okay, AIDS is the reason for that but there are many diseases that will bring the same result. Nevertheless, I doubt that the song is about that. And the newspaper saying "Next Scandal coming soon" seems to be no more than a joke on such papers... i.e. they sell more issues with constantly printing so-called scandals. |
crowley 10.10.2004 14:16 |
"Scandal" has got nothing to do with anyone's death! Go to the newsagents and take a look on this crappy magazines / newspapers stuff (I don't know the names of those in England) but in my place there are dozens of this shit! Even in my small town we've got our local newspaper "Nowa" which specializes in so - called scandals, classic tabloit, new scandal weekly for 2 zloty's (less than a half of a dollar I guess) and I've instantly recognized this song as a PERFECT CONNECTION with these titles. |
daniboy 11.10.2004 09:15 |
thanks Scirocco1977.... at last... |
Regor 11.10.2004 10:54 |
Nothing to do with the AIDS-thing IMHO - Freddie had been fighting (or better ignoring) the tabloids since the mid-seventies, after for example the NME especially had issued some infamous articles about the band as we all know. The headline is generally applicable to tabloids and their hunger for gossip and so-called sensations. And by the way, it's a lame video, not liked too much by the band (especially Roger), and directed by Doro. And in an obituary by Rudi Dolezal, written shortly after Freddies death, he said that they never really knew what Freddies illness was. Also the song was written by Brian and Bri himself stated several times that Freddie was not willing to reveal his thoughts lyrically at the time, so I really don't think he would have particularly wanted this headline as a secret message in the video. It just fits the lyrical content, nothing more. |
Hitman 11.10.2004 11:34 |
For me there are no links between aids and scandal song...it's easy that Brian composed it while they were "on holyday" from the band, taking inspiration from his life And i won't be convinced about we are the champions linked with gay pride :) that way also "everybody needs somebody to love" from blues brothers has a gay meaning :D too captious arguments |
toodey 12.10.2004 20:20 |
actually crowley. i read that somewhere. |
toodey 12.10.2004 20:21 |
On second thoughts i think i read it in a biography, so dont know how true it is. i apologise if i am wrong. |
Martin Packer 20.10.2004 16:43 |
I don't think Scandal is about AIDS. And I think that both the song and the video are brilliant (though I take the point Freddie's make-up was too harsh). When I think of inspirations for it I think of Cadbury's Flake as well as Brian & Angie, more than I think of Freddie. But Freddie did put (to my ears) a lot of emotion into the "deeper and deeper and deeper inside" bit. Having said all that I think it more likely songs coming from the other 3 have the occasional hint of Freddie's illness and death in them. I suspect Freddie himself distracted his attention AWAY from the subject. A good pair of examples: Delilah (a Freddie composition) and The Show Must Go On (widely believed to have lyrics from Brian). |
QueenZeppelin 20.10.2004 17:20 |
Let me put it to you this way; Freddie himself once told me that "Scandal" was about a long night, a sheep, a Pakistani male prostitute, a toaster, and a cucumber. |