| KillerQueen840 04.10.2004 16:30 |
link I'm sure quite a few of you know this by now but I want everyone to be aware. Please buy your dogs from well-known breeders or animal shelters! Boycott Puppy Mills! |
| deleted user 04.10.2004 16:41 |
Do they have pussy mills? |
| KillerQueen840 04.10.2004 16:49 |
...NOT funny... |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 16:58 |
horror! unfortunately it doesn't happen only to dogs... |
| Music Man 04.10.2004 17:03 |
My dog was given to me from some guy who owned a farm who was really good friends with my Grandfather...don't blame me for being sketchy on the details, I was like three years old at the time. |
| Ogre 04.10.2004 17:19 |
In my opinion, I would say don't buy one at all, (that would soon put em out of business) but if you must, then get a Mutt!! At least they don't come with all the problems of a pedigree.. |
| dragonzflame 04.10.2004 17:23 |
Our dog came from the SPCA. I remember reading somewhere though - think it was the PETA website - that some pet stores will just kill on the premises the puppies that aren't bought and chuck them into the dumpster out back. Kind of a catch-22 then innit? |
| Janet 04.10.2004 17:29 |
A former neighbor of mine bought a dalmation pup from a petstore at a local mall. Paid an ungodly amount for it, and when she took it to the vet, they discovered that it had a birth defect, something with its heart, and she was told the pup wouldn't even make it to adulthood. Since there was a health guarantee she took it back to the shop. They took the pup back. Less than a week later I happened to be shopping at that mall, walked past the petshop...that poor puppy was back in a cage, up for sale again! Just made me heartsick. |
| Mr.Jingles 04.10.2004 18:12 |
I totally agree with you... Dogs and cats are forced to spend days and nights inside a very enclosed cage where they are hardly ever taken out, and many times no one is there to clean it up. Of course for the common pet lover, you feel pity for the poor thing and sometimes you don't mind spending 5 times the same amount of money that you could spend if you went through the newspaper ads for pet. All for the sake of the poor dog. For pet stores is a very effective marketing strategy, a very cruel one indeed. Many people consider that PETA some kind of terrorist group, and yes perhaps they're kind of extremists, but they're just about right on bringing up very important issues about animal cruelty. |
| KillerQueen840 04.10.2004 18:16 |
Yes, and if anyone buys from them out of pity it'll cause them to overbreed more for more bussiness...if the animals are stopped being purchased through the stores and through breeders then Puppy Mills will eventually give up. (if they have enough common sense...) |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 18:37 |
well...what about racing horses? after they are not eligible for running any more...they just make glue out of them... it's this stinky animal protection world-wide program the problem... kill 'em all! |
| Mr.Jingles 04.10.2004 18:53 |
Horse racing is indeed another cruel practice... ...but not nearly as cruel as bullfighting. It makes me fuckin' ashamed of being hispanic. |
| deleted user 04.10.2004 19:04 |
What about cock fighting? No, not that COCK! My grandfather and my uncle breeds them and let them fight! The losing cock ends up as stew, although it is quite tattered to ribbons. Poor bastards. |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 19:06 |
and god knows what they will invent after they ban those!!! |
| deleted user 04.10.2004 19:10 |
Bunny boxing, I suppose. |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 19:13 |
guinea pig sumo |
| joeyjojo 04.10.2004 23:09 |
And don't eat corporate raised pork, beef or chicken while you are at it. Hard to do, admittedly. ;o) |
| Sonia Doris 05.10.2004 02:22 |
conclusion: don't eat meat! |
| dragonzflame 07.10.2004 05:52 |
Greyhounds get put to sleep once their racing days are over - apparently they make decent pets but the racers can't be arsed to find them homes so they just destroy perfectly healthy dogs. |
| Sonia Doris 07.10.2004 05:53 |
why doesn´t it surprise me? |
| OrAnGe SoDa 01.11.2004 14:39 |
i bought my doggie from a petstore!(7 years ago...) |
| OrAnGe SoDa 01.11.2004 14:42 |
one time on t.v,i saw an abandoned house with 70 or more puppies. then,there was a dead puppy on a shelf and it was starting to rot!(luckily,they caught the person who did that!) |
| MetzgerR 01.11.2004 20:26 |
Pet stores are definitely not very good to animals being sold there...but if you get a dog or any animal from a breeder, do your own background checking. My mom got her beautiful three pound pomeranian from a nearby breeder, but before we picked up Rhapsody, we were looking at other breeds. We almost bought a Munchkin, until we were told that the most prominent Munchkin breeders were breeding the poor dogs to become too small: their organs were starting to fail due to breeding problems, and they were beginning to become physically deformed. It was really sad, because they looked so pathetic and helpless, and the only way we could help them was NOT to buy them... And adopting greyhounds is great. One of my friends used to have a retired greyhound, and the dog was incredibly sweet! Ja ne! |
| StrangeQuark 01.11.2004 22:20 |
Yes, yes... poor puppies and poor racehorses... Ever cast a thought for the other animal suffering most of you likely support each and every day? For example, pigs are as intelligent or more intelligent than dogs. I know people who own chickens as pets. Have you ever stopped to pet a cow? They're quite docile and friendly, if they've been raised by kind hands. While I absolutely agree wholeheartedly about boycotting petstores that sell animals from mills, if you really care about the well-being of other creatures, perhaps you should take a look at the hypocrisy inherent in your own lifestyles. *sigh* I suppose it's better that people are aware of at least SOME of the injustices our species imposes on other sentient creatures. But it's just so hard to understand that mentality... sympathetic to the plight of all the cute and fuzzy animals, but completely blind to others that happen to "taste good." Lately I've definitely been spending much more time with fellow herbivores especially since living with that I seem to have lost any ability to empathize with--or even partially comprehend--the views of the "other side". P.S. This rant obviously not directed at Crazy_Little_Thing_Called_Sonia or joeyjojo, who also seem to have the right idea... |
| Monte: Liquorice Years 02.11.2004 04:30 |
i hate all animals.... especially dogs and cats. they piss everywhere. i hate them, and i think all animals should be shot by law and if you're an animal lover, well, ha! you got told by me monte |
| Fairyfeller 02.11.2004 05:20 |
Cows are so sweet :) just so damn scared... Or I'm just plain ugly... ;) Puppy mills don't only 'apply' to pet stores, but also to 57% of all breeders. They have 2 nests a year, which is both a killer for the bitches, but also for the puppies. Often breeders also 'overbreed' which causes mental and physical defaults, so a little list of tips when you buy a dog: 1: NEVER buy from petstores, you don't know the background of the pup (puppie mills, overbred, etc) 2: ONLY buy from a breeder which is member of a national breeding association, these people will take good care of their breeding dogs, and put the dog before the man. 3: When a breeder asks you where you live, what dogs you have/have had, how old they were, which medical conditions they had, how you live, litterally anything that has even the slightest link to keeping a dog, this shows that they really do care. These people will probably reject 'customers' regulary, because the people just aren't up to their standard 4: Ask how many puppies are in the nest, and how often the mother's give birth, just to make sure they're not abusing animals 5: ask where they are being kept: they might be kept outside the house, which in most cases means you'll get a badly socialised dog. 6: pay real close attention to the way they talk about their dogs, so start a conversation on what they do with their dogs, what their names are, just general small talk, to see how much they really care. |
| KillerQueen840 02.11.2004 07:04 |
Also, don't forget, if you don't mind not having a purebred (sometimes you can even find those there too) you should check out some local animal shelters! |
| MetzgerR 02.11.2004 12:09 |
About other animals...sometimes it isn't so much that we're trying to be insensitive to their plight, but more that there is very little we can do about it personally. I can talk about cats and dogs because I have firsthand experience researching breeders, visiting breeders, getting background information, attending shows to hear other breeders' opinions on a certain kennel or cattery. When it comes to other animals, I'm clueless... Also, I can't really have many other animals. I have a teacup Persian with me in my apartment, and that only because of her extraordinarily diminutive size. My sister, on the other hand, is in love with pigs, and has been since she was a toddler. She's been waiting for two years to get her first pig, and will be getting one in a few months when my family moves to a farm. As for the 'tasty' issue...that's purely cultural. And as far as that goes, I think America is pretty good about regulations. I mean, we certainly don't serve lobster that is still living (but suffering from a shredded tail) as a delicacy! And Cunning Stunt, I'm not sure you did much at all. This thread was a kind of warning/advice thread...your post is both inappropriate and terribly out of place. Is that what you meant to tell us? Ja ne. |