| Lester Burnham 01.10.2004 02:25 |
Yes, I know. Queen are perfect. There is no other band on the face of this earth that compares with John Deacon's undergarments. HOWEVER. For those astute listeners, myself discounted as I'm half-deaf, but with myself recounted because I have a nice pair of headphones...what errors and glitches have you noticed in a Queen recording? While listening to 'Don't Stop Me Now', I noticed two piano flubs - one at 1:54 and again at 1:58. It's next to impossible to hear the second flub, as there are multitudes of overdubbed voices, but if you listen hard enough, the 1:54 flub is all I'll ever hear now. Contribute! |
| Regor 01.10.2004 03:29 |
On my The Works-CD the solo at the end of "Man on the Prowl" ends somewhat abrupt, as if someone stopped the tape from running a few seconds too early... but maybe that's just a remastering-error. Brian mentions a glitch on "making the rhapsody" on GH I DVD. And the "oohh" on "Rock you" before the first verse, when just the beat is audible... Brian once explained that on his soapbox, I think it was the echoe (due to the multitracking of the stomps and claps) of himself counting 1,2,3,Fooouuur |
| Sebastian 01.10.2004 03:39 |
There are several. From the top off my mind: - Lap Of the Gods has several unintentional glitches in the piano, as if Fred wasn't sure which chord was next. There are some tempo changes (also unintentional). Moreover at one measure that left hand doubles a descending bass fill, Fred and John play different notes that create dissonances. Those could be intentional (to reinforce the mysticism of the song) but I doubt so since on stage they played unisono. - Fat Bots has one time the G chord with F bass - Jealousy has some bass mistakes, and also Sleeping On The Sidewalk - Note Fred's lead voice in Sweet Lady through DTS channels. No wonder why he had to multi-track it - The second "Bismilah" in Bo Rhap has the Timpani entering in a slightly different time with the bass. One of them is a little too late or a little too early. Of course in the whole mix you don't notice it since there are also drums (plus overdubbed snare), piano and octave vocals to cover it up |
| The King Of Rhye 01.10.2004 03:52 |
for one thing, I remember someone saying that in some part of Father To Son, it goes out of tune for a brief moment.....also, I've noticed in BoRhap from Live Killers (yeah, its live, so I guess its less of a glitch)....something, I am not sure what, is out of tune when Freddie sings "bodys aching all the time"....I dont have the cd with me right now, so I cant quote the exact time of it.... |
| Mr Coolest Cat 01.10.2004 06:34 |
Oh shut up you load of silly children. |
| Zizzu 01.10.2004 07:00 |
If u listen to Play T G instrumental version u can find an error at the end of the solo that is faded out in the definitive recording. Quite interesting |
| PrincesofTheUniverse 01.10.2004 07:46 |
Is that the version on Karaoke hits? |
| Lester Burnham 01.10.2004 10:30 |
Flamboyant Freddie wrote: Oh shut up you load of silly children.That's not a glitch. Sorry, you fail the reading comprehension test. |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2004 11:18 |
There are many of things I've noticed as well... BoRhap - there is one voice that lasts a bit too long on "monstrosity". It's A Hard Life - there is a horrible click as Brian's guitar harmonies come in after the short piano interlude. Because Queen's music was so higly overdubbed, there are dozens upon dozens of instances of this throughout their catalogue. Many people might not be able to hear this, but trained ears certainly will, especially in headphones. Sleeping On The Sidewalk - Roger misses the drum fill going out of the solo, and hits rims. Rock It - Brian loses beat at the beginning of the guitar solo. Man On The Prowl - there is a huge skip in the beat in the second verse. And the ending is the way it was supposed to sound. This is probably my least favourite Queen song. And finally, Hot Space side 1. They forgot to include Roger's drum tracks, and mistakenly used the drum machine tracks from the demos. :) |
| Bohardy 01.10.2004 12:22 |
"Rock It - Brian loses beat at the beginning of the guitar solo". - Come on! That's obviously intentional, the whole stuttering, unsteady, off-kilter feel that Brian gives the start of the solo. It's one of the most different solos for Bri. Quite a departure for him. |
| deleted user 01.10.2004 15:37 |
there only human everybody makes mistakes you know !!!! |
| kohuept 01.10.2004 15:46 |
I've always been bothered by the last "Don't Do It" in Don't Try Suicide. The one right after "Yeah!". I kinda hoped it would be fixed/different on the 5.1 version. |
| love of my life 14018 01.10.2004 15:51 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Yes, I know. Queen are perfect. There is no other band on the face of this earth that compares with John Deacon's undergarmentsJohn Deacon wears UNDERGARMENTS?!!!?!?! Damn. |
| Lester Burnham 01.10.2004 16:13 |
Mrs.Badguy wrote: there only human everybody makes mistakes you know !!!!No shit. Fuck off until you can comprehend the initial post. It's clear that this wasn't a "ha ha, Queen make mistakes" thread - it was to show how human a band can be, underneath those "perfectionist" exteriors. |
| deleted user 01.10.2004 16:41 |
ok cool down...im sorry ....i didnt mean it in a nasty kind off way x:o) |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2004 22:37 |
Bohardy wrote: "Rock It - Brian loses beat at the beginning of the guitar solo". - Come on! That's obviously intentional, the whole stuttering, unsteady, off-kilter feel that Brian gives the start of the solo. It's one of the most different solos for Bri. Quite a departure for him.I dunno man........ :) Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but every time I hear this lick I just think Brian could have done it a bit cleaner. |
| joeyjojo 02.10.2004 01:27 |
that audible 'beep' about 11 seconds into drowse has always bugged me. |
| joeyjojo 02.10.2004 01:29 |
that would be...uhh...as opposed to an inaudible beep? |
| Lester Burnham 02.10.2004 02:15 |
I think I can also hear a "four" in the beginning of 'Bring Back That Leroy Brown', as in Roger or Freddie counting off the song - "1, 2, 3 *drum intro* four". |
| wstüssyb 02.10.2004 02:40 |
On the flash cd, at the start till the end. |
| The Real Wizard 03.10.2004 00:01 |
zizzu wrote: If u listen to Play T G instrumental version u can find an error at the end of the solo that is faded out in the definitive recording. Quite interestingI'm actually interested in hearing this as well... which version is this exactly? |
| LiveAidQueen 03.10.2004 08:14 |
Ohh Willy :-) |
| iGSM 03.10.2004 08:34 |
I think that might be Roger in Leroy B. because of his tendency to add a count in a live shows. 'A one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four' |
| Jimmy Dean 03.10.2004 18:11 |
That thing about Roger's drum tracks missing on Hot Space, Side 1... is that really a mistake or was it intentional? |
| Regor 04.10.2004 04:29 |
joeyjojo wrote: that audible 'beep' about 11 seconds into drowse has always bugged me.Yeah - what's that all about, is there any information why they didnt edit that ? I mean it's not that you have to listen carefully to hear it, one cannot miss that one... ? |
| Fenderek 04.10.2004 05:09 |
wstüssyb wrote: On the flash cd, at the start till the end.LMAO! |
| BackToHuman 04.10.2004 10:05 |
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the drumtrack on 'No More of That Jazz' -- near the end of the song? and (slightly off topic) -- the 'Rocks' version of FBG? |
| mystic_rhythms 04.10.2004 13:41 |
wstüssyb wrote: On the flash cd, at the start till the end.Okay, now that was harsh. Just because it's not a huge Queen album, but rather a soundtrack to a sub-par movie, doesn't mean it sucks. "Flash's Theme" was good enough to make it on Queen's first Greatest Hits album, and it's a good album overall. |
| Lester Burnham 04.10.2004 13:45 |
OK, it's a joke? I'm sure he's entitled to his own opinion, too. |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 16:46 |
in radio gaga: when it's the "all we here is radio gaga..." roger's voice seems to be continuing after freddie & co. |
| Sebastian 04.10.2004 16:53 |
I think Radio Ga Ga has lots of delay. In the bridges too. But that must be intentional |
| Sonia Doris 04.10.2004 16:54 |
what about the lyrics? |
| juls 05.10.2004 04:43 |
Hi! Yes there are several little mistakes, but keep in mind that they usually did not use a metronome in the early years (maybe until around 1980), so there are more little "mistakes" on the first albums - later on I believe they used more synths, more drum programs, more delay and reverb effects, and they had the possibility to quantize the MIDI tracks, and the usage of digital technique. (IMHO the 1974-1980 tracks are better produced, they have a richer sound, and sound more human and have more fantasy: did you notice that in "Leroy Brown" Roger used 2 different snares? Nowadays they would click twice on the "Generate Drumroll Snare#47" button ;-) ) |
| Albyboy 05.10.2004 04:57 |
juls wrote: Hi! Yes there are several little mistakes, but keep in mind that they usually did not use a metronome in the early years (maybe until around 1980), so there are more little "mistakes" on the first albums - later on I believe they used more synths, more drum programs, more delay and reverb effects, and they had the possibility to quantize the MIDI tracks, and the usage of digital technique. (IMHO the 1974-1980 tracks are better produced, they have a richer sound, and sound more human and have more fantasy: did you notice that in "Leroy Brown" Roger used 2 different snares? Nowadays they would click twice on the "Generate Drumroll Snare#47" button ;-) )Very good point, Juls... This is the reason for which we would probably listen to such fascinating background guitar harmonies never again (now you've got synths... Why would you need to do them?)... Agree with you about the freshness and the unique flavour of the '70s production too... :-) Albyboy |
| juls 05.10.2004 05:40 |
Albyboy, the problem is, that nowadays the music industry is more business than ever. It is easier to produce something for the masses, which is quite simple in a way, than sitting down and to record f.e. The Millionaire Waltz solo. Of course it has to do with the production costs too, I think. But as long as there are people like us, queen fans, who can differ quality from quantity, I wonder why Queen productions sometimes are made a bit "cheaper" (see Hot Space, The Miracle f.e. IMO) For me, it is enjoyable to listen to the delicate BHM soli in the mid 70s, the nice piano work on the first 6-7 albums, the mellow, tight and melodic bass lines played on a Fender Prec and the powerful, tight drums until The Game. For others maybe Queen is a pop band, and for Pop music you need synths, drum computers, a quite flat sound, catchy tunes - in fact Queen has something for everyone, but it does not mean, that every album is beloved by everyone. On the other hand I can't imagine Queen in the late 80s recording songs like The March of the Black Queen or My Fary King. Maybe in *this* case doing business is more important... |
| Sebastian 05.10.2004 06:09 |
Still I think they learnt from their synth era and at the end of Fred's life they (and especially him) were doing a great job of combining keyboards and samplers and computers with guitar, drums and bass rock: Innuendo, Was It All Worth It, Bijou, The Hitman. That's the beauty of music: can you put acoustic guitars in a heavy metal song? can you put accordeon in a symphonic piece? can you add electric guitar to a tango? For all of that the answer is: yes, as long as you do it well. And Queen were one of those (not the only) band who showed that there are no limitations. You don't have to make a song acoustic, or metal, or punk, you can combine them, or make each song unique and sui generis. Some songs (like Headlong) were much better synth-free and they did them that way, which is fine too. Piano wasn't as important as in early seventies. Still, Robbie Valentine did a beautiful Bijou version with piano which made me picture how would it have sounded if instead of the strings (which anyway sound beautiful) Fred had backed the guitar solo with some Bechstein Debauchery. It would have been great |
| Wilki Amieva 08.10.2004 00:06 |
PTG guitar mistake is one of my favourites. Another Brian glitch from that album is at the end of Sail Away Sweet Sister, in the final 'you' (just before the 'Oh boy!' - ???) - it is overdubbed ...badly. |
| high-flying-adored 08.10.2004 12:40 |
Crazy_Little_Thing_Called_Sonia wrote: in radio gaga: when it's the "all we here is radio gaga..." roger's voice seems to be continuing after freddie & co.Yah, his vibratto continues for a bit after Fred and Bri, which is bit awkward in the song. Meh. |
| iGSM 08.10.2004 12:58 |
< I can't ever say I have..but will listen in now. Thanks. |
| ~Blue_Acid~ 08.10.2004 16:50 |
The high galliao's on bo rhap (sung by roger) were not orginaly supposed to held out that long. and freddies vocals in the heavy section on the verse "leave me to die" were not supposed to be disanated but be in unison. When he double tracked him self he added it at the last minute. |
| ~Blue_Acid~ 08.10.2004 16:54 |
not related to queen but to ozzy on blizzard. In Crazy train the part where ozzy goes "all aboard ha ha ha" is really a delay. you can barely here the initial speaking but its there. |
| BackToHuman 09.10.2004 07:52 |
crazy train? bah -- it's about gay sex. can we stay on topic here? |
| The Real Wizard 09.10.2004 15:02 |
Jimmy Dean wrote: That thing about Roger's drum tracks missing on Hot Space, Side 1... is that really a mistake or was it intentional?Nah, I was kidding! Many people here would have preferred real drums as opposed to the drum machines. |
| lovequeen 09.10.2004 15:43 |
I've always wondred that sound at the beginning of Fat Bottomed Girls, at around 0:05 or 0:06, sounds like snapping fingers once. Is that intentional or not? |
| Hankster 09.10.2004 16:09 |
I don't hear such thing at the beginning .. you mean when they sing the line 'oohh .. you gonna take me home tonight..', I suppose? |
| lovequeen 10.10.2004 05:53 |
I checked it, it's not audible on the Jazz album, but if you listen to the song on Rocks, it can be heard right during the second 'oooooh' on the line "oooooh, down beside that red fire light". |
| lovequeen 10.10.2004 15:06 |
Does anyone know what that sound is? Anyone..? |
| MatiasQueen89 10.10.2004 19:18 |
I'd say they're snappin fingers... |
| Chaka 10.10.2004 19:23 |
that sound is the result of a mastering error found on a few official releases of the Jazz album and all versions of Queen Rocks. so no, unless Brian found it amusing and insisted on not fixing it, I don't think it's intentional. |
| Darling39 02.01.2005 23:10 |
I noticed that the piano Freddie played for Millionaire Waltz slightly, well, pretty audiblely, clicked every time the soft pedal was pressed. This is most hearable in the beginning, after the first four measures of staccato rhythm and the bass comes in. (click, click, click) But that's not really a human error. |
| Yogurt 02.01.2005 23:52 |
Liar, in the begining |
| FriedChicken 03.01.2005 04:33 |
While listening to 'Don't Stop Me Now', I noticed two piano flubs - one at 1:54 and again at 1:58. It's next to impossible to hear the second flub, as there are multitudes of overdubbed voices, but if you listen hard enough, the 1:54 flub is all I'll ever hear now. I can't hear the 2nd 'flub'. But i'm pretty sure the first one is intentional |
| Scirocco1977 03.01.2005 05:47 |
check this page for information on the fbg glitch: link |
| Lord Blackadder 03.01.2005 11:42 |
If you listen out for glitches then you will hear them, then thats all you will ever hear and it ruins the song. |
| deleted user 03.01.2005 18:02 |
I never look/listen out for errors, just enjoy the music. My friend, sharp-eyed little bugger that she is though, noticed that Roger misses the first no of no,no,no,no etc in the video for Bohemian Rhapsody. It's natural that she was only watching him, as Roger is her favourite member! Obviously this isn't an error in the actual recording though, as they are miming. It is just funny to watch. I'm glad I don't know of any other errors (I have refused to read the posts on this topic ;P), because it's all I look out for in the video now. :( |
| Koolkikiland 03.01.2005 20:03 |
Lester Burnham wrote: ...what errors and glitches have you noticed in a Queen recording? Contribute!For years I've noticed what seems to be a recording "punch-in" glitch on Brian May's guitar solo in "Sweet Lady" toward the end of the song (3:39 - 3:40) He's playing lower on the neck and then bam! a high note is wailing as if he were already playing higher up on the neck at the moment they punched Record. There's a spot in Good Old Fashioned Loverboy where John is pretty clearly late when Freddie sings "how do you feel right after all" - John's late on the quarter note at the word "all". I've always wondered about the seemingly arbitrary floor-tom hit on the first verse of Good Company when the line is sung "don't fool with fools who. . " Intentional?? Really odd. . . and most of all, in Bohemian Rhapsody, after the big opera and rock section (5:10 - 5:15), the entire piano is tuned slightly FLAT (or the guitars were tuned too sharp) but it's just clearly evident at that point that tuning is NOT good. |
| goinback 04.01.2005 04:27 |
King of Rhye: YES! I've always heard that on "Father To Son", but have never seen it mentioned here. I only hear it on my vinyl US Elektra version though (I bought it in 1981) and not the CD. It happens like this toward the end of the song: "Father to father to father to sooooAAAAAAAooon! Joyful the sound...." The "AAAAAA" part is where it sounds like the tape speeds up for a second. I always just thought this was a little studio effect they were going for and liked it, but the Hollywood CD doesn't have it. Also my US Jazz album from 1979 sounds like it has a tape that was erased and used again (I've noticed this on other non-Queen records too). I can vaguely hear FBG start in the background before it really starts, and I hear Mustapha end in the background after it actually ends. It sounds like maybe they decided to make the blank space between the two songs longer after the initial recording. And there's also the pause between WWRY/WATC on CD that is way longer than the vinyl version, and Live Killers on CD fades out at the very end later than the album (and sounds like a door is slamming shut...that wasn't on the vinyl). I guess these are all just mastering errors though rather than actual permanent band/mix mistakes. Oh yes a permanent error: On Radio Ga-Ga at 4:32 in there is a slight pitch variation, probably a tape problem. It's on every version I've ever heard (even the single), and even though it seems small it has irritated me since 1984 :) |
| pcgenius9 04.01.2005 06:36 |
Appologies if it has been mentioned before... I know that it is live so glitches are generally more accepted but at the start of Under Pressure on Live At The Bowl, John makes a bass error and you can hear this when comparing it to how the Under Pressure intro should sound. I also hate the remastering of Fat Bottomed Girls! I hate the way the whole first verse comes out of one speaker. It has done this on every remastered version I've heard and I know it's not my equipment. I also find the white noise section at the start of Somebody To Love very irritating! |
| deleted user 04.01.2005 08:37 |
pcgenius9 wrote: at the start of Under Pressure on Live At The Bowl, John makes a bass errorI don't know whether it is what you are talking about, but John does miss out a note of the bass in Under Pressure - because he trips over a wire! |
| pcgenius9 04.01.2005 08:39 |
Well thats quite likely because it's not the first thing I've noticed. In the same concert, I noticed John has to dodge something that comes flying across the stage. |
| Teo_torriate04 04.01.2005 09:26 |
There's a bit towards the end of 'Someday Oneday', just as the instrumental to fade starts, where there seems to be an almighty crash in the background. sounds a bit like an electronic thunderclap. I've always wondered why on such a meticulously produced album they left that on. |
| Koolkikiland 04.01.2005 13:25 |
Teo_torriate04 wrote: There's a bit towards the end of 'Someday Oneday', just as the instrumental to fade starts, where there seems to be an almighty crash in the background.Yeah, I know exactly what you're referring to. I've always assumed it was just a little pick/finger/string scrape from Brian on his guitar just before he starts in on that solo - made to stand out more because of the heavy reverb and delay echo. It's funny those odd little bits you hear in songs for so long that you just get used to them. |
| Darling39 04.01.2005 14:37 |
I don't think it's a glitch... well maybe. I just always heard something at the beginning of We Will Rock You. Around the first or second bar, if you turn the speaker way up, you can hear a voice make a sound, like, "aww". I don't know why such a sound would be purposefully put on the track so quietly. Does anyone else hear it? |
| goinback 04.01.2005 18:04 |
I never realized how irritating the white noise at the beginning of Bo Rhap was until I got the new WWRY Greatest Hits disc...it says in the liner notes they finally got rid of it. I'm not sure if they did that with Somebody To Love too or not. Just curious: Which part of FBG are you talking about? The guitar intro is supposed to come out of only one speaker...is there a part with vocals that is only coming out of one speaker too? |
| deleted user 04.01.2005 18:43 |
pcgenius9 wrote: Well thats quite likely because it's not the first thing I've noticed. In the same concert, I noticed John has to dodge something that comes flying across the stage.It looks like a banana. That concert had an absolutely mad crowd. They kept throwing hats on stage, and Freddie picked them up, wore them for about 10 seconds, and then threw them away again. |
| goinback 04.01.2005 19:05 |
I want to see Freddie in all the hats :( |
| pcgenius9 05.01.2005 03:29 |
On mine the vocals are coming out of one speaker, or are rediculously quiet. Why are they like that anyway? |
| BackToHuman 05.01.2005 07:17 |
because in the "old days" things were actually produced for stereo effects. just listen to the vocal extravaganza in 'Prophet's Song'. somehow, someone got the "brilliant" (sarcasm) idea that things should sound exactly the same in both speakers. if that's the case, why on earth not just record it all in mono? |
| deleted user 05.01.2005 08:12 |
In FBG I find the lyrics so quiet I have to turn it up really loud, then turn it back down during the chorus. Now thats annoying... |
| kohuept 05.01.2005 09:49 |
In The Miracle, at the beginning of the bass solo toward the end, you can hear someone singing along with it. Listen closely. I also can't tell if there is someone counting along with the snaps at the end of Under Pressure or if it is just some reverb thing. Any ideas? |
| The Real Wizard 06.01.2005 00:36 |
goinback wrote: Oh yes a permanent error: On Radio Ga-Ga at 4:32 in there is a slight pitch variation, probably a tape problem. It's on every version I've ever heard (even the single), and even though it seems small it has irritated me since 1984 :)Wow, I thought I was the only person ever to notice this one! Ooh, one other thing... in Made In Heaven, towards the end, right at the beginning of each quick B-E chord, there is a digital click evident to the sensitive ear. That kills the end of the song for me. |
| Vad 06.01.2005 17:28 |
Always wondered why on the chorus repeat of Radio Ga-Ga, when Freddie sings 'Radio what's new', the second 'radio' is skipped and go on directly to 'someone still loves you'. This happens in every version of the song except in live versions. Does anybody know why is this? |
| kohuept 06.01.2005 18:29 |
Even though I have nothing to back this up with as I have never tried to play RGG, but it sounds as if the flow of the music in a live setting is better when the second "Radio" is sung. That's what I tell myself so I stop wondering. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 17.01.2005 20:57 |
I was just listening to Long Away last night, and in the last couple of seconds you can hear a tiny bit of piano from the beginning of The Millionaire Waltz. Maybe it's from being transferred from LP to CD? Or was it like that on the record? |
| KJ 18.01.2005 08:15 |
On Mother Love it seems there is an error when Fred sings "All I want is to know that you're there". When he says "All I want" in this sentence, it sounds in poor quality as if this was the only recording they could use. |
| foxxy_moron 19.01.2005 04:23 |
Love Of My Life wrote:LOL wat are undergarments (dumb question but i am mislead)Lester Burnham wrote: Yes, I know. Queen are perfect. There is no other band on the face of this earth that compares with John Deacon's undergarmentsJohn Deacon wears UNDERGARMENTS?!!!?!?! Damn. |