| Lord Fickle 21.09.2004 11:58 |
Does anyone know what's going to be the next release on DVD-Audio? I think I read somewhere a while back that Brian was working on a 5.1 remix of Q2, but not seen anything since. It would be nice if they could speed up the releasing of DVD-As, as one a year (at the most) is going to take a bloody long time to get the whole collection out, and by then, there might be a different format available. What's the next one you'd like to see on DVD-A? Q2 would be excellent, as would any of the 70s stuff. |
| agneepath! 11994 21.09.2004 13:13 |
Sadly its all quiet on the Queen DVD-A front... Its not been mentioned by anyone who matters for a very long time. |
| Giacco 73 21.09.2004 14:54 |
I'd love to hear "Queen II" or "A Day at the Races" for the 70's,"A Kind of Magic" or "The Miracle" for the 80's,"Innuendo" for the 90's but most of all "Made in heaven".I hope they will release the whole Queen catalogue in this format sooner or later!In my collection I have all in three formats:vinyl,audio cassette and CD.DVD-A is the next obligatory step. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 21.09.2004 15:01 |
Giacco 73 wrote: I'd love to hear "Queen II" or "A Day at the Races" for the 70's,"A Kind of Magic" or "The Miracle" for the 80's,"Innuendo" for the 90's but most of all "Made in heaven".I hope they will release the whole Queen catalogue in this format sooner or later!In my collection I have all in three formats:vinyl,audio cassette and CD.DVD-A is the next obligatory step.How about they release every album!! AKOM would be great. |
| Lord Fickle 21.09.2004 15:07 |
I wish Brian and / or Roger would concentrate on these, and some more live DVDs, rather than putting all their efforts into the poxy musical. |
| KillerQueen840 21.09.2004 15:24 |
If you don't mind my asking, what's a DVD-A? (I guess you could say that I'm a bit behind my time.) I've heard of them before but I just don't know what they are and it's bugging me. |
| KillerQueen840 21.09.2004 15:24 |
If you don't mind my asking, what's a DVD-A? (I guess you could say that I'm a bit behind my time.) I've heard of them before but I just don't know what they are and it's bugging me. |
| KillerQueen840 21.09.2004 15:50 |
errr...stupid comp posted twice again. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 21.09.2004 16:56 |
Queen II would be amazing. Or Sheer Heart Attack. |
| Lord Fickle 21.09.2004 17:26 |
DVD-Audio (DVD-A) is basically an audio only DVD, which plays on most DVD players in digital 5.1 surround sound, providing you have a Home Cinema amp. So far, only A Night At The Opera and The Game have been released on DVD-A, but both are absolutely amazing! Brian oversees much of the surround sound remixing, and I believe it's quite an intricate process, but once you've heard ANATO in glorious digital surround sound, you'll definitely want more! Queen II would be fantastic, and I really hope some more Queen DVD-As come out soon. |
| Scirocco1977 21.09.2004 17:27 |
@ KillerQueen: A DVD-A is a DVD Audio. This means that the albums are remixed in DTS-Surround sound. As long as you have a DVD-Player, a decent receiver (DTS-comatible!) and a nice Surround Sound system, you can hear the albums in a great quality. It sounds even better than the Greatest Hits DVDs because the whole space on the DVD contains music information and no video information. Queen released A Night at the Opera and The Game so far. And in my opinion they sound simply great and much, much better than the CDs or LPs. Still, there are a bunch of people there who despise this as the songs originally were not originally recorded for surround sound. But since Brian is doing most of the work, I think it is justified to remix them. To me it is a totally new experience. Looking at this picture: link it seems like Queen are working on News of the World. And I am fine with it. Queen II would be fab, too. Innuendo, as well... Ah well, I would love to have all of em... Maybe the Flash Gordon Soundtrack is another story. Too movie orientated. |
| Scirocco1977 21.09.2004 17:28 |
@LordFickle... nice parallel thoughts ;) |
| Lord Fickle 21.09.2004 17:36 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: Looking at this picture: link it seems like Queen are working on News of the World.That's a very interesting article. I had no idea that some of the master tapes were missing. It could, however, make for some exciting new versions, if they have to use alternative takes to rebuild parts of some of the songs, similar to Coming Soon on the DVD-A of The Game. NOTW would also be one of my favorite choices for a DVD-A remix. |
| inu-liger 21.09.2004 17:37 |
Well, I would say that AKOM would be a likely choice for one of the next DVD-A's, because 5 songs out of that album have been remixed for surround sound already (for GVH2). However, if they decided not to do DVD-A's with any 4.1 tracks, they'd have to re-remix the tracks already available in surround sound for pure 5.1. But if they decided not to re-remix these tracks for 5.1, and instead only choose to re-work unremixed tracks, then AKOM, Works, or Miracle would be likely choices for DVD-A's. I'm sure that they won't go that route though, as I know Brian has had complaints from Queen fans about the 4.1 mixes on the GVH I&II DVD's (along with complaints about the widescreen presentation) |
| KillerQueen840 21.09.2004 17:38 |
Thank you! |
| Scirocco1977 21.09.2004 17:40 |
It might be just my imagination but I think that the pure DVD-As are in much better quality. Thus, they would have to work on all tracks again. And work they should do since we are paying about 20 bucks to listen to it. |
| Lord Fickle 21.09.2004 17:44 |
@ Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtroopers) Were they only 4.1? I'm happy to be corrected, but my GVHI&II DVDs both say DTS 5.1, and they certainly sound like 5.1 on GVHII, although I have my doubts about the sound on GVHI, apart from the tracks which also appear on the NATO DVD-A. |
| FriedChicken 21.09.2004 18:20 |
I don't think there will be another one to be honest |
| pma 22.09.2004 00:55 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: @ KillerQueen: A DVD-A is a DVD Audio. This means that the albums are remixed in DTS-Surround sound. As long as you have a DVD-Player, a decent receiver (DTS-comatible!)A dvd-audio is defined by MLP encoded audio material (stereo or surround), not DTS or DD which are merely secondary lossy compression formats (yes dts is lossy) included to provide dvd-video player compatibility. |
| Maz 22.09.2004 01:22 |
Just to add a bit to PMA's post, DVD-A and DTS are two completely different formats. It has helped, however, that Queen's DVD-As include a DTS track on them to make them more compatible with various DVD players, particularly since DVD-Audio is not as widespread as other formats. Both formats will play 5.1, though. And a slightly unrelated question for PMA (or anyone else that would know) - I saw where several Elton albums were being released in SACD in the next couple months. Are they strictly in SACD format, or will they be released as DVD-As as well, a la Goodbye Yellow Brick Road? |
| pma 22.09.2004 04:22 |
Zeni the Wet Sprocket wrote: Just to add a bit to PMA's post, DVD-A and DTS are two completely different formats. It has helped, however, that Queen's DVD-As include a DTS track on them to make them more compatible with various DVD players, particularly since DVD-Audio is not as widespread as other formats. Both formats will play 5.1, though. And a slightly unrelated question for PMA (or anyone else that would know) - I saw where several Elton albums were being released in SACD in the next couple months. Are they strictly in SACD format, or will they be released as DVD-As as well, a la Goodbye Yellow Brick Road?I wish I knew the answer, not that it matters, because I can play SACD now :-P. Universal ignores my inquiries on the topic and I've sent their customer service/feedback whatever several polite questions asking 'Where be da dvd-audio biatch?' . Strangely enough they have not yet bothered to do the right thing and answer. How rude. When the GYBR SACD was coming, it was announced on DVD-A at the same time on their website, whereas the current batch of Classic Albums + Peachtree Road SACD, there is zero mention of a following DVD-A. |
| YourValentine 22.09.2004 04:33 |
Most artists make a choice and release either on SACD or DVD-A because the market is still small and two formats would not sell enough copies. However, it would be nice if *any* other Queen album would be released on DVD-A. It's been a year since The Game came out and I am beginning to believe that this is just another forgotten toy and we will never get all albums on DVD-A. Edit: according to a recent German interview with Brian and Roger there will be a re-release of the Platinum collection partly in surround sound (please don't ask me what "partly" means) Maybe this is the next DVD-A? To make the few people who have not yet bought the Platinum collection finally buy it? |
| Lord Fickle 22.09.2004 04:40 |
I think it's because Brian is spending so much time on the musical, other things may be taking a back seat. We do, however, have the Milton Keynes DVD to look forward to. I hope they don't abandon the DVD-A releases, because the two so far have been awesome, but I think it might be a while before the whole catalogue is released, if ever. If they can't find the missing master tapes, Brian might not want to release something he considered to be a compromise. |
| Scirocco1977 22.09.2004 06:29 |
@pma: Of course you are right. However, I am limited to a standard DVD-player, so I can only access the DTS sound. Can anybody tell me whether it would be worth buying a 'real' DVD-Audio player to listen to the MLP-sound? I ask because I think the DTS sound is BIG, and I cannot believe there can be much difference. Also, I have not the best surround speakers. I agree that Brian and Rog are very busy with the musicals and therefore have hardly any time for other things. But I am certain there will be more DVD-As. On the whole I think we cannot complain. Just think back a couple of years after the Made in Heaven Release... There, we were waiting for something new about Queen and got nothing. Now, there is the whole Queen machine slowly coming to life again: Concerts, DVD's, new songs (from the 46664 concert), DVD-As etc. |
| Lord Fickle 22.09.2004 09:47 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: Can anybody tell me whether it would be worth buying a 'real' DVD-Audio player to listen to the MLP-sound? I ask because I think the DTS sound is BIG, and I cannot believe there can be much difference.I have a DVD Player which can also play the 'real' DVD-A format, and I have to say, I find the DTS sound actually better, but it's a question of taste. The DTS sound is definitely bigger, and more bassy, but the 'real' DVD-A sound is probably what purists would say is how it's meant to be heard. |
| BackToHuman 22.09.2004 09:55 |
as far as Elton John releases in DVD-A vs SACD, i wouldn't imagine Sony would release their surround mixes on a competing format (they own SACD, after all). i could be wrong on this...i've been proven to be wrong before, but, that's just my thoughts. |
| Maz 22.09.2004 10:52 |
But Elton is on Universal, not Sony. As already mentioned, GBYR was released on DVD-A, so it's not an issue. |
| Maz 26.09.2004 23:59 |
Allright! Looking at Brian's Soapbox tonight, the next "surround sound project" will be ADATR. Not Innuendo, but my second favorite Queen album. Can't wait to hear some of that. |
| Daburcor? 27.09.2004 00:19 |
ADATR is YOUR second favorite as well Zeni? Cool! Though I'd much rather have Innuendo, ADATR will be MORE than fine!!! :D |
| Maz 27.09.2004 01:19 |
I'm beginning to wonder if we aren't the same person, Dan :) |
| Daburcor? 27.09.2004 02:15 |
Uh-oh! The jig is up! :| |
| agneepath! 11994 27.09.2004 04:10 |
This is good news. I had feared they had abandoned plans for any new DVD-As. |
| Fenderek 27.09.2004 04:25 |
It's excellemt news- it's also one of my fav albums- can't wait to hear YOU TAKE MY BREATH AWAY in 5.1...! |
| agneepath! 11994 27.09.2004 04:28 |
wonder what the time frame will be? Will it be ready in 12 months from now? |
| pma 27.09.2004 05:29 |
Mmmm... ADATR should be a good one. Great news. Then again, who knows how long it will take to finish the product and release it. |
| Adam Baboolal 27.09.2004 10:43 |
Well, I remember that ANATO was announced around this time of year. And it was completed and ready for the first quarter of the next. Good news, indeed! Can't wait to hear the result. I'm a big fan of these dvd-a releases. Glad to see ADATR is next up. But to those who think that they'll release the entire catalogue on dvd-a... Yo...what?? I'd be surprised if they got past 5 releases. Peace, Adam. |
| Daburcor? 27.09.2004 10:45 |
Well, Innuendo had DAMN well better be one of the five. ;) |
| iGSM 27.09.2004 10:55 |
Awesome. ADATR will be mighty fine with YTMBA. |
| Roger's Beard 27.09.2004 10:59 |
Brian WAS talking about Queen2 over a year ago, but then Ken Stone died which put the mockers on that. Last I heard, they were going to look at NOTW because that was also a big seller in the USA. |
| Lord Fickle 27.09.2004 11:36 |
Excuse my ignorance, but who was Ken Stone, and why did his death put the mockers on QII? I was also hoping for QII, but ADATR is excellent news! |
| Penis - Vagina 27.09.2004 12:33 |
Mike Stone died, if that's who was meant. But I believe his biggest involvements were for A Day At The Races itself, and News Of The World, which both carried the "Produced by Queen, engineered by Mike Stone /(or) assisted by Mike Stone" notations. So I don't think his absence has anything to do with the choice.. though he was involved with other albums too, and perhaps Queen II is so complex they wanted to have an original engineer involved. But anyway, I'm happy about this. ADATR really is my favorite album though some of my favorite songs come from others. And hopefully by the time this is released, I'll have a way to play these things :-P I just have standard DVD players and Dolby Digital 5.1. I think the best bet would be a stand-alone DTS decoder but I haven't seen many of those. |
| Adam Baboolal 27.09.2004 12:35 |
While News Of the World was looked at, it has definitely become the sob story of the lot because there are missing elements. Multi-tracks are missing, which is why they had to upmix Spread Your Wings into pseudo 5.1 for GVH1. Peace, Adam. |
| Lord Fickle 27.09.2004 12:42 |
Re: NOTW, surely there must be alternative takes which they could use? Might even make things more interesting! Re: Mike Stone, I didn't know he'd died. What a shame. Re: DVD-A player, it might be worth looking at upgrading to a DVD Player with a DTS decoder (assuming you have a DTS capable amp), as you could then get the benefit from other movie DVDs with DTS. |
| agneepath! 11994 27.09.2004 12:52 |
whirled <font color=#9ACD32>peas</font> wrote: I just have standard DVD players and Dolby Digital 5.1. I think the best bet would be a stand-alone DTS decoder but I haven't seen many of those.For those like me on a tight budget I recommend the Panasonic S-75. it plays DVD-As and has a built in DTS decoder. It costs a mere £120. Its slim and looks great too! Never regretted buying it. |
| pma 27.09.2004 13:32 |
Agneepath! wrote:As a tight budgeter, I recommend Pioneer DV-575whirled <font color=#9ACD32>peas</font> wrote: I just have standard DVD players and Dolby Digital 5.1. I think the best bet would be a stand-alone DTS decoder but I haven't seen many of those.For those like me on a tight budget I recommend the Panasonic S-75. it plays DVD-As and has a built in DTS decoder. It costs a mere £120. Its slim and looks great too! Never regretted buying it. Universal Player (plays SACD, DVD-A, DIVX and the usual standards). Cost me 199 euro with postage ordered from Germany with a two week delivery to Finland for an out of stock item. (webstore alternate.de) That's 135.379 GBP or so. But check your local prices first. |
| Penis - Vagina 27.09.2004 14:02 |
Well, I've already got two DVD players... and the receiver (which I love and don't wish to replace) has 6-channel inputs as well as a spare optical input, so I really just need a DTS decoder to go between a player & the receiver. If such a stand-alone decoder is such a novelty that it's actually cheaper to get a player with a decoder built-in, then I suppose that's an option too :-P |