QueenZone discussion #391055
May and Satriani
| deleted user 14.09.2004 13:34 |
When I was listening to Bijou one night, it reminded me of one of Joe Satriani's instrumentals. Is it just me? I know that they (Brian and Joe) collaborated on something, but I can't seem to remember what. |
| quackman 14.09.2004 17:08 |
Starfleet |
| MayFan 14.09.2004 17:22 |
Satriani was not in Starfleet. That was Eddie Van Halen.... |
| FriedChicken 14.09.2004 19:45 |
they played live together a couple of times. And Brian got an Ibanez from Joe and used it on nothin but blue |
| The Real Wizard 14.09.2004 23:40 |
FriedChicken wrote: they played live together a couple of times. And Brian got an Ibanez from Joe and used it on nothin but blueAlways gotta know everything, don't ya? :) |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 15.09.2004 03:04 |
Sir GH wrote:I knew that. Its in the BTTL sleeve notes!FriedChicken wrote: they played live together a couple of times. And Brian got an Ibanez from Joe and used it on nothin but blueAlways gotta know everything, don't ya? :) |
| akan 15.09.2004 03:15 |
i think that satriani style is a little ispired by brian may but oviously it is a new style:they played togheter a couple of times, in seville in '92 and in london in '98 on a g3 concert:for sure one of my dreams is attending the g3 concert with satriani, vai and brian may. |
| Sebastian 15.09.2004 07:08 |
There's no way Brian would be in a G3 with Joe and Steve. It'd be like a G3 of singers Pavarotti, Domingo and Kurt Cobain :) PS: I don't mean Kurt sang bad, but he's light years inferior to the others |
| akan 15.09.2004 07:12 |
the seville concert was great, i think that they sound good togheter despite brian is not a guitar hero like satriani and vai, but for sure brian has more groove live than satriani and vai |
| FriedChicken 15.09.2004 07:26 |
Brian did play on those G3 concerts a couple of times |
| Jjeroen 15.09.2004 08:03 |
Indeed, and besides I've seen G3 gigs with guests that were much much much more further adrift. Besides I do think Brian would fit the 3 if he just wrote some more instrumental guitarstuff. (Which he should do anyway ;-) |
| Little_Queenie 15.09.2004 09:13 |
I'd really like to see them play togehter again. Saw that gig at Seville, and they sounded great!! Brian could really fit in, although I know it will never happen.. Too bad, they're my three faveourite guitarists. |
| akan 15.09.2004 09:50 |
hendrix jimmy page and brian may the perfect g3! |
| deleted user 15.09.2004 13:40 |
besides, Brian is in his own league, apart from the legends. Im not implying that Brian is not a legend, he is in a class of his own. BTW, did anybody recover Satriani's Pearly yet? |
| FriedChicken 15.09.2004 15:01 |
Satriani is boring btw |
| MayFan 15.09.2004 16:03 |
To me, Brian is one of the greatest guitar players out there. Being a great guitar player doesn't mean burning up and down the fretboard with every arpeggio possible. Too many guitarist have come and gone doing that. What Brian has is a real knack for play for the song. Listen to "Who Wants To Live Forever". All that nice, soft touch stuff he does under that song is all apart of creating the mood of the song. All the guitar "layering" that is his signature sound is done for the purpose of the song. And when he does have a "solo", he plays from his heart. That is what makes Brian a legend. |
| Libor2 15.09.2004 18:35 |
I agree with MayFan. Guitar skills are not only speed of playing. Brian certainly couldn’t fight from this point of view with Vai or Satriani or many others. But another important things are sound and style of playing (ie. buiding solos, melodies etc.). And Brian is perfectly comparable with anyone on these fields. Another good example of this could be Dave Gilmour. His sound and some solos are amazing and very well known. But speed of playing guitar was never his strong side. And why should be. He is in the first league of guitar players anyway. Same for BM. |
| Fireplace 15.09.2004 18:41 |
I think Satriani and Vai themselves would certainly rate Brian to be in their league. Aren't they the most qualified to judge? |
| Sebastian 15.09.2004 19:00 |
I'd like to hear or read when or where did they say that. If so, they're just being nice imo. |
| Virtuoso 15.09.2004 19:31 |
Brian did say he had a lot of admiration for virtusos.And no,Satch's not boring...at all. |
| MayFan 15.09.2004 20:16 |
Sebastian wrote: I'd like to hear or read when or where did they say that. If so, they're just being nice imo.Dude, they say it ever time they pick up the guitar. If you can't hear the influence May had on their playing, you are not listening. Even John Petrucci from Dream Theater, who is most definitely in Vai and Satch's league, comments on Brian's influence on his playing. |
| Polar Bear 16.09.2004 00:46 |
I find it rather strange that one would doubt the prowess of Mr May in comparison to Vai, Satriani et al. I have read on numerous occasions that Satriani considers Brian to be a big influence, what's more is that Brian is able to play with great technicality when required, 'invisible man' for example, considering that is Tremolo picking I'd have to say that it's fucking impressive. Once you factor feeling and touch into the equation, Brian is more than jsut in the legue of those guys. Saying that Satriani was 'just being nice' shows a remarkable amount of naivety on your part Sebastian. One would assume witht he amount you think you know you'd have picked up on Brian's immense skill, he'd more than hold his own in a G3 style environment, however whether or not he'd want to is another matter entirely. There is an old saying that the making of a guitar legend isn't just in the notes play but in the notes that you don't play. I think you'll find Brian fits into this category nicely. |
| MayFan 16.09.2004 01:05 |
Bravo, Polar Bear, bravo! |
| Sebastian 16.09.2004 04:13 |
Would you please give me a link or the name of a video where Steve actually says that? It'd be interesting to hear. Anyway, very few guitar players would say "yeah he's nothing compared to me". They're "brothers", so they don't attack each other. Invisible Man has 10 seconds of good technique. Steve's or Joe's concerts have 2 hours of AMAZING technique. That's leagues beyond. |
| Polar Bear 16.09.2004 07:02 |
My friend I believe you are forgetting quite how technically superior Brian's harmonic technique is compared to Satriani et al. Not only is he able to tap, play fast, play with feeling but his harmonic capabilities are far superior to anything Satrianani, Vai etc. could ever dream of. I displaying mind numbing speed for two hours shows only how often one masterbates over the fretboard, strong muscles yes, technical prowess maybe, technical genius? Not a chance. And as for the link question, it was Satriani commenting on his respect for Brian, not Vai. I have no idea where to find the link, i've read it in an interview somewhere, most likely on a Queen site, but failing that in a Guitar Player magazine, sorry I can't be more helpful with that. |
| akan 16.09.2004 07:58 |
don't forget that hendrix and page didn't play with a technique like the one of the modern guitarists like satriani and steve vai but i consider hendrix e page the best guitarists ever in the rock history togheter with brian may. i think that brian may version of bijou is one of the highest tops that a guitarist can play of that track and satriani and vai couldn't play better bijoux than brian may. in my opinion the hendrix style moved in 3 directions when he died:brian may, jimmy page and steve ray vaughan that in my opinion have influenced all the guitarists after them |
| MayFan 16.09.2004 12:31 |
I agree with everything you said, andrew, accept for one thing. Jimmy Page was playing long before Hendrix. Yes, he started Zep in 1968, but he had been a studio musician for at least 7 or 8 years before that and had played in the Yardbirds after Beck left. Page and Hendrix were both inspired by the bluesman of their time, just like Clapton and Beck. Players like Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixson, Albert King (who SRV always quoted as his biggest influence), BB King...etc. |
| Llisos 16.09.2004 12:52 |
Hola! Steve and Joe are touring with Robert Fripp -King Crimson guitar player. Fripp is not a virtuoso, they have his own style and he's oppening the shows with his music... his boring music... Fripp can make 'atmospheres' but after a little while you just want to stop this soporific sound. I saw Steve a few years ago... he is great. He can play whaterver he want to play. He's not boring, maybe, a little exhausting sometimes. I guess Brian is more a 'global' music but I'm not saying that Steve is """just""" a guitarrist. In my opinion, Brian can tour with Steve and Joe, maybe he is not a super virtuoso but he is a great guitarrist. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 16.09.2004 13:18 |
As much as I love Brian May, I cant help but think that Vai and Satriani are in a totally different league. Brian May is a superb guitarist with his own style. Vai and Satriani are phenominal guitarists. i dont think that Brian would be able to cope with the likes of Surfing With The Alien or Greasy Kids Stuff! |
| deleted user 16.09.2004 15:40 |
I am learning a lot from this simple post. bring it on!!! |
| The Real Wizard 16.09.2004 17:43 |
andrew wrote: don't forget that hendrix and page didn't play with a technique like the one of the modern guitarists like satriani and steve vai but i consider hendrix e page the best guitarists ever in the rock history togheter with brian may. i think that brian may version of bijou is one of the highest tops that a guitarist can play of that track and satriani and vai couldn't play better bijoux than brian may. in my opinion the hendrix style moved in 3 directions when he died:brian may, jimmy page and steve ray vaughan that in my opinion have influenced all the guitarists after themDisagree. All you're talking about is from a commercial perspective... and Ray Vaughan had many blues players that came before him, since the 40s. You're forgetting about a few avenues. What about Al DiMeola, Allan Holdsworth, Frank Zappa, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, and Steve Howe? All are in their own leagues, and had a huge following for decades to come. |
| TonyZorro 17.09.2004 04:20 |
What makes a great guitar player? Being fast, dominating a lot of tecniques? I think that it have to do much more with emotions and feelings that can be expressed through a song. And Brian can't be matched in this way. His guitar work is totally original, unique, and no one could replicate it. Freddie was the best rock singer of all time, not because he could reach an E4, or something like that. It was because he could transmit an emotion through a song, make you feel goosebumps in songs like You take my breath away or Love of my life. |