QueenZone discussion #383061
Freddie's Rock Voice
| RedSpecial227 28.08.2004 05:36 |
Freddie did sing many rock songs i.e. TYMD, IWIA, but in some softer songs like TeoT near the end he sings hard hard rock and I was listning to "Welcome to the jungle" bny GNR and just thinking how much better it would sound with Freddie. Axl is awesome and all but Freddie is untouchable, he can hit like a natural high D (TSMGO), anyone else notice Freddie's rockin potential? His heart was that of a lovers though. |
| Borhap80 28.08.2004 06:16 |
Well Freddie was a fab rock singer, but Guns N Roses stuff belongs to Axl... imo... |
| Sebastian 28.08.2004 08:13 |
I agree Jungle is great as it is. Slash is way better guitarist than Brian imo, as well as Axl's "rough" voice suits the song much better than Freddie's clean tone. Roger singing 'Welcome To The Jungle' would be great though, not as much as Axl's |
| Whisperer 28.08.2004 11:29 |
Axl sucks! |
| Boy Thomas Raker 28.08.2004 12:11 |
"Slash is way better guitarist than Brian imo." Faster, maybe. Better, never. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 28.08.2004 15:15 |
I think Freddie's voice is just too clean for that song's roughness. He could pull it off, but it wouldn't sound as gritty as it should. |
| Whisperer 28.08.2004 17:14 |
Gunpowder Gelatine wrote: I think Freddie's voice is just too clean for that song's roughness. He could pull it off, but it wouldn't sound as gritty as it should.Have you ever heard I Want It All? Anything sung by Axl Rose could have been sung better by Freddie. That's just the way it is. November Rain for example is a decent song, but Axl's voice totally destroys it. Same thing with Bed Of Roses. Jon seems to choke during that one. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 28.08.2004 19:23 |
Yes, I've heard I Want It All. But I think Thomas Tønnesen said it right: Welcome To The Jungle just is a Guns N' Roses song. Freddie's voice is better than Axl's, but that song seems to fit him, as other people on this thread have said. |
| Zander05 28.08.2004 23:05 |
To say that Freddie should sing GnR is insulting to me. I'm not saying that the band sucks. But I hate Axl with a passion and I'm sure, had he asked Freddie to work with him on something, Freddie would give him a good punch in the face. Why should Freddie lower himself to such a degrading song? (NOT knocking Appetite For Destruction, but for Freddie, that's lowering the bar). Besides, Freddie was never into heavy metal. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2004 01:06 |
Freddie was a lot into heavy metal, he loved Led Zeppelin, as his former bandmates recalled. Moreover he started his songwriting career as a heavy metal / hard rock composer (Great King Rat, Liar, Ogre Battle), before expanding his style to piano ballads, progressive/art rock, musichall influences, etc. But he kept writing heavy songs: Death On Two Legs, Let Me Entertain You, Princes Of The Universe, The Hitman, Was It All Worth It (so-so) |
| Borhap80 29.08.2004 04:18 |
Axl is of one of the greatest Queen fans ever. He has said it numerous times. Does that matter ? Well it might not... Still you cant deny that from the late eighties to the early nineties Guns n Roses was the BIGGEST band in Rock n Roll... |
| Sebastian 29.08.2004 04:53 |
I don't think Axl is a Queen fan per se. Queen II is one of his favourite albums but that doesn't mean he's one of the greatest fans of the band. I would say the only band he's fan of is Guns N Roses (and me too, perhaps) |
| Borhap80 29.08.2004 05:32 |
It has been discussed before, the things he said in the Queen documentary : Champions of the world... If he meant those things he said honestly, there cant be much to doubt... :) |
| Borhap80 29.08.2004 06:14 |
It's not right in my opinion to say Queen invented hard rock.... I think it's difficult and not possible to say someone invented that genre, or maybe whatever genre... If I had to pick one, I'd pick Black Sabbath.... |
| Garden Lodge 29.08.2004 06:28 |
Axl Rose....I was completely disappointed when I saw him on the Tribute singing possibly the worst rendition on earth of BoRhap (apart from being very angry to see him completely stoned during WWRY)....yuck! I don't know how on earth did they invited such a clown like that one to the Tribute in the first place!! (mmmmmm I believe I drifted from the topic huh? :)) |
| lottie88 29.08.2004 15:31 |
Freddie had some incredible rock potential. I think that was because he had such a powerful voice and he could have done so much more in hard rock. He has one of those versatile voices though that can do anything. |
| Zander05 29.08.2004 16:08 |
"Freddie was a lot into heavy metal, he loved Led Zeppelin, as his former bandmates recalled. Moreover he started his songwriting career as a heavy metal / hard rock composer (Great King Rat, Liar, Ogre Battle), before expanding his style to piano ballads, progressive/art rock, musichall influences, etc. But he kept writing heavy songs: Death On Two Legs, Let Me Entertain You, Princes Of The Universe, The Hitman, Was It All Worth It (so-so)" I should have been more specific, by 'heavy metal', I meant bands like AC/DC and Metallica and what-not. |
| deleted user 29.08.2004 17:36 |
BHM 0271 wrote: "Slash is way better guitarist than Brian imo." Faster, maybe. Better, never.Couldnt agree more. Slash's "solo" during TYMD at the Tribute gig was a howler |
| Virtuoso 29.08.2004 19:48 |
LZ 'invented' hard rock btw... |
| FriedChicken 29.08.2004 20:02 |
I really don't understand why so many people think Axl is a good singer - including Brian I know Brian is called the nice guy in rock 'n roll, but saying that Axl is a good singer is just being way too nice. He ruined great songs like Knocking on Heavens Door and even our beloved Bohemian Rhapsody with his horny cat-like vocals. Just terrible And Slash, He's so damn overrated. Noway he's even close to Brian. I agree Slash technical skills and speed are better and faster than Brian. But speed and skill isn't the only thing that makes you a good guitarist. Brian's solos always fit in the song very well, Even when he's playing on a song as a guest appearance. And Slash's solos sound like nothing, they have NOTHING, or atleast not much to do with the actual song. And no i'm not a guns 'n roses basher. I like them |
| Queenrocks4579 30.08.2004 00:15 |
Oh yeah freddie definetly had a hard rock voice. Thats why Vh1 said queen was # 13 it the greatest hard rock bands of all time. And queen was really kick ass |
| iGSM 30.08.2004 01:42 |
Well I quite like the voice especially in 'It's Late' Because it is! |
| Sebastian 30.08.2004 05:46 |
About Freddie into Metallica or ACDC - Stone Cold Crazy sounds very Metallica-esque, and that was a song of Wreckage so he must have written it (although the arrangement should be by all of them); also the drums of Ogre Battle sound a little Metalicca-esque (yes they don't have the double kick, but other "little" details are kind of similar imo); and Hitman is also somehow Metallica-esque. Anyway, GnR is more a hard rock band than a heavy metal band, for those time standards, again imo. About Slash - Yes he has better technique and speed than Brian, and yes technique and speed aren't everything, but imo in this case the difference is enough to tell Slash is better (imo). Brian had the luck of being in an older band, who subsequently is more often classified as superband, which makes him to be a "superguitarist", and as I said other times, I do find Brian overrated in some aspects of his playing, and very unfairly underrated in others. About Axl - I love his voice, but I personally would have liked more that each GnR track would have been sung by its composer. Izzy is also raw but Don't Cry with him would be great. IMO As for hard rock - It definitely existed before Queen; as for who created them, some say LZ some say Black Sabbath. But I agree that you can't credit a genre or style to one song, one album or one act; it's a mass process |
| BrianRules 30.08.2004 12:19 |
I think a few of you have hit the nail on the head. GnR isn't even on the same radar screen as Queen. Queen blows them away in EVERY aspect. Freddie is much more capable than Axl, and Brian is just THE greatest guitarist os all time, in my opinion. Finesse definitely beats speed, and Brian is all about finesse. As far as speed goes, Brian is no slouch, either!!! |
| Albyboy 30.08.2004 12:25 |
BrianRules wrote: I think a few of you have hit the nail on the head. GnR isn't even on the same radar screen as Queen. Queen blows them away in EVERY aspect. Freddie is much more capable than Axl, and Brian is just THE greatest guitarist os all time, in my opinion. Finesse definitely beats speed, and Brian is all about finesse. As far as speed goes, Brian is no slouch, either!!!I'm with you BrianRules... GnR were a great hard rock band but they can't be put on the same shelf as Queen: it's a swear... Even if I'm a rational fan rather than a very protective one (getting older?), so I don't start by putting Queen above all the other bands, I believe that there can be no comparison between these two... Anyway it is just my humble opinion... Albyboy |