QueenZone discussion #377574
*WANTED* queens first ever concert
| *white_queen* 14.08.2004 19:46 |
does any one have a torrent of this concert??? |
| *white_queen* 14.08.2004 19:58 |
or does any one know where to get it??? |
| bokkepoot 14.08.2004 20:33 |
I want it too !!!! btw.....what do you see as first concert ? Please give a date and place of it |
| *white_queen* 14.08.2004 20:51 |
September 13th 1973, Golders Green Hippodrome, London, England - Master Of "Sheetkeeckers" this is the earlyestone i can find tho |
| whitemanadmin 15.08.2004 04:31 |
The Ibex gig, where roger and brian join them on stage is I suppose the earliest time(without john). I have seen this as MP3 but not as proper audio |
| Rien 15.08.2004 06:21 |
The earliest Queen concert I have in my list is 09.04.73 UK, London, Marquee Club. Well, on my site there's an MP3 that is named Rock 'n' Roll medley Golders Green 1973. Got it from a reliable source. |
| David Jones 15.08.2004 07:50 |
Your Earls Court gig sounds great Rien! Where did you get that from?! |
| Rien 15.08.2004 08:02 |
If you mean the two fragments I have on my site, where Freddie talks to the public, then I can say I ripped the audio from a dvd I got from someone. That dvd was copied directly from VHS-recording. I've just put those two fragments on my site, this time as wmv-video. |
| Pim Derks 15.08.2004 10:22 |
The earliest Queen live recording available so far is Golder's Green Hippodrome - September 13, 1973. As far as I know anything before that is a fake. Ofcourse, Barry Mitchell has a 1970 or 1971 performance with him playing bass and I'm sure there are people out there with stuff from before Golders Green Hippodrome - but that stuff is not available to the "general" public. |
| Rien 15.08.2004 10:33 |
No Thomas, you're not that source... |
| Pim Derks 15.08.2004 10:46 |
Jeez Caspar - do you think your recording is special or something ? Golders Green Hippodrome is one of the most widely spread Queen bootlegs. The RNR medley leaked out a few years back so it is nothing special. Now, if you had the FULL concert with the slow SCC and stuff.... |
| Roy ® 15.08.2004 11:06 |
Ohhh that's a pity Thomas you are not the source. What were you trying to reach, would you like to hear "Yes Thomas you are the source, may thanks" I don't think many people like that behaviour. |
| Rien 15.08.2004 11:11 |
btw, by putting that medley on my site, I'm not implying that it's something that special. It's just there for those who haven't got it. |
| David Jones 15.08.2004 12:51 |
> BTW: I do have the full concert. MP3, though. Full, full concert??! |
| Pim Derks 15.08.2004 13:48 |
Ofcourse not David. The guy thinks he knows a lot - but he obviously doesn't. And if he's not kidding and does have the full concert - I'm willing to think about his peace offer in return for the concert ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 15.08.2004 13:57 |
So, me having Sheetkeeckers doesn't matter then? Has somene else uploaded it? Peace, Adam. |
| agneepath! 11994 15.08.2004 14:39 |
Pim Derks wrote: And if he's not kidding and does have the full concert - I'm willing to think about his peace offer in return for the concert ;)... and there was me thinking that you, as well as being a miserable git, were a vindictive git too. |
| Pim Derks 15.08.2004 14:49 |
what does "vindictive" mean? To lazy to look it up :) |
| Rien 15.08.2004 15:47 |
OMG, is it so hard to find! Just look at link Life can be so easy! |
| agneepath! 11994 15.08.2004 15:52 |
vindictive = unwilling to forgive |
| Roy ® 15.08.2004 17:34 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:Then you should ask it in a Topic. Who downloaded it from me ???omniroy wrote: Ohhh that's a pity Thomas you are not the source. What were you trying to reach, would you like to hear "Yes Thomas you are the source, may thanks" I don't think many people like that behaviour.No, I wasn't. Someone recently downloaded this from me while I was sharing it for a friend (SoulSeek), and I'm curious who the other person who downloaded it was. |
| whitemanadmin 15.08.2004 18:09 |
Rien wrote: The earliest Queen concert I have in my list is 09.04.73 UK, London, Marquee Club. Well, on my site there's an MP3 that is named Rock 'n' Roll medley Golders Green 1973. Got it from a reliable source.I had an mp3 of the rock'n'roll medley, and it was a fake, wonder if it is the same one.... |
| Pim Derks 15.08.2004 18:44 |
If it was fake, what was it then? |
| Maz 15.08.2004 19:08 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: No, I wasn't. Someone recently downloaded this from me while I was sharing it for a friend (SoulSeek), and I'm curious who the other person who downloaded it was.As was mentioned earlier, Golders Green is not that uncommon among collectors. It's a bit much to think that Rien's other source was the person who downloaded it from you on Soulseek. |
| whitemanadmin 15.08.2004 19:38 |
Pim Derks wrote: If it was fake, what was it then?I can;t remember, but it was given to me as the rock'n'roll medley from golders green, and if you listen to them the announcers were different, so it couldn't have been real. I thnk we figured out where it was from, but for the life of me I cant remember |
| John S Stuart 15.08.2004 20:00 |
Queen: Unreleased Live, Ewell Technical College 9th January 1971 Line-up: Farrokh Bulsara (vocals), Brian May (guitar), Roger Meddows Taylor (drums), Barry Mitchell (bass). Supporting Kevin Ayers And The Whole World Band, Flying Fortress and Genesis. The entire set was recorded by Ken Testi on a Grundig tape recorder, but only the Rock ‘n Roll Medley remains. A flyer for this concert is briefly viewed in the official “Genesis - Archive” video. Rock ‘n Roll Medley; Jailhouse Rock, Stupid Cupid, Bebop a Lula, Big Spender, Bama Lama Lama Loo. Barry Mitchell does indeed own a copy - not too sure about the rest of the band. - John S. Stuart - Interview 1992. |
| John S Stuart 15.08.2004 20:02 |
Queen: Unreleased Live, Marquee, London 20th December 1972 Richard Thomson: original mono reel-to-reel. (Earliest known bootleg – but dreadful quality copies compared to reel-to-reel = different sources?). Christie’s Pop And Guitars Auction, Thursday 6th June 1996. Richard Thomson: Lot 154 sold £2,800. Bought by Queen Productions Ltd – John S Stuart, Record Collector, 11th June 1996. Set similar to 10th March 1972, except, Night Comes Down, See What A Fool I’ve Been, Stone Cold Crazy, and Hangman dropped from the set. New material includes Doing Alright, and Ogre Battle. Full set listing: Great King Rat, Son & Daughter, Jesus, Doing Alright, Ogre Battle, Keep Yourself Alive, Liar, Jailhouse Rock, Bama Lama Lama Loo |
| John S Stuart 15.08.2004 20:03 |
The FULL Golders Green concert: Everything else is just NONESENSE!!! Queen: Unreleased BBC Radio Session, Live Golders Green Hippodrome 13th September 1973 BBC Pop Spectacular Transcription Services 135600 – S Rogues And Scoundrels Bootleg LP Saturday Night’s All Right For Fighting Bootleg CD Cry Argentina Bootleg CD In Concert BBC Radio One. Broadcast 13th Sept 1973. Produced by Jeff Griffin, sound balance by John Etchells, leaping about Paul Deley. Available as BBC Pop Spectacular Transcription Services LP 135600 – S. (Rock ‘n Roll Medley cut from broadcast, LP transcription and bootleg discs). Procession, Father To Son, Son & Daughter, See What A Fool I've Been, Ogre Battle, Liar, Jailhouse Rock, Stupid Cupid, Bebop a Lula, Big Spender, Bama Lama Lama Loo. There is NO Hangman or slow Stone Cold Crazy - this is just more innuendo that I keep squashing - but there are always those who like to believe the mythology rather than the facts. BTW: If interested (it is illegal to sell BBC transcription discs) I will "donote" a mint copy of the album "free" - to whoever is willing to pay c£500 for my "Play the Game" 7"!!! |
| Pim Derks 16.08.2004 06:43 |
I don't think there's any videomaterial from before 1974... Maybe some private stuff, but not professionally filmed... Most Queenconcerts in 1972/1973 were probably around an hour long. edit: I'm talking about live-material. Ofcourse there's stuff such as the Liar / KYA videos. |
| Queenland 17.08.2004 14:33 |
>Queen: Unreleased Live, Marquee, London 20th December 1972 >Richard Thomson: original mono reel-to-reel. (Earliest known bootleg – but dreadful quality copies compared to reel-to-reel = different sources?). The common "Marquee 1972" bootleg is a FAKE mix sourced in fact from the Oxford 20/11/1973 soundcheck+concert, not from the real 1972 recording as on the reel-to-reel.More details on my "Fake Live" guide on link BTW - Interesting to know that Big Spender and Bama Lama Lama Loo are on the full R'n'R Medley of Golders Green. These two were perfectly cut out from the leaked copy then? I can't notice any edit on it... |
| John S Stuart 17.08.2004 19:06 |
Queenland: "The common "Marquee 1972" bootleg is a FAKE mix sourced in fact from the Oxford 20/11/1973 soundcheck+concert, not from the real 1972 recording as on the reel-to-reel.More details on my "Fake Live" guide on link That is indeed correct Queenland, but there is also a genuine bootleg of the same concert also. This boot is very rare and appeared on LP only c1975 - 76 (between "Opera" and "Races") - it was never a great disc as the sound source was so poor. (The original reel-to-reel tape was so much better - but that too is similar in sound to the "Ibex tape - so not much cop by to-day's standards!) The cover was a plain white card/paper sleeve with photocopy insert - so it was never a thing of beauty either. As it was not "collectable", it never "repeated" the initial run. (I guess at perhaps a hundred or so discs?). The later bootlegs (mainly CD) noticed that the track listing was (as you correctly pointed out) similar to Oxford 20/11/1973 - and so the one became substituted for the other, and as you also correctly allude to, this "mistake" has never been corrected. |
| Queenland 18.08.2004 09:10 |
> there is also a genuine bootleg of the same concert also. This boot is very rare and appeared on LP only Can you please let me know what is the exact title/matrix number/record company/country of this LP ? I never heard about a Marquee 72 bootleg vinyl disc. |
| John S Stuart 18.08.2004 18:06 |
Can you please let me know what is the exact title/matrix number/record company/country of this LP ? "Live at the Marquee" - UK "release" no other info except on the run in groove... "Shang-a-lang" and "Thanks Les". No catalogue number or company information, which supports the idea of a private pressing. The album cover is very similar to "sheetkickers" in that apart from a poor insert photocopy picture - on one side, and track listing on the other - that's it I'm afraid. |
| Queenland 19.08.2004 12:24 |
Wow - thank you VERY much for the info. This one is not even on the Andreas Voigts discography (at least not on my 2000 edition) ! |
| pepe_botella 19.08.2004 13:41 |
can anyone upload it, it might be an easy to find bootleg in USA and UK, but heere in Argentina imported stuff is very hard to find.... and very expensive too... thanks a lot. -------------------------------- Everything you ask I do, for you |