| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 07:37 |
Given the sub-standard nature of the CD/DVD release of Wembley 86 (ie backing musicians, 4:3 aspect ratio, Freddie's failing voice, uninspired performance list) especially when compared to other videod live performances, I have this proposal. That Queen Productions Ltd should do a mass recall of all Wembley 86 live products to be replaced with the Houston 77 concert on DVD. If any Queen fan should refuse this, then they are chucked out of the fan club and various message boards, and record stores should keep their names on file to ban them from buying any other Queen product. This is surely a fair solution to the situation. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 07:42 |
With respect, Thomas, I have this show on bootleg DVD and despite its quality problems, it still kicks Wembley's arse. I think any person who thinks the Wembley show was good is not a real fan. |
| Fenderek 09.08.2004 07:45 |
LMAO |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 07:50 |
I do have the full concert - it's very easy to get if you know the right people within Queen Productions to ask. I was speaking with Brian on the phone the other day about this idea. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 07:52 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: If you have the full concert, would you be willing to sell/trade a copy?Yes. |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 07:55 |
Why shouldn't they have full video of Houston? What part is missing, according to you? The problem with Houston is that it's cut just like Earls Court - just a few cameras, little action. Compared with Wembley or Hammersmith 79 it's pretty boring. That's the main reason why it won't be released, I think. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 07:57 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: The Left Testicle of Freddie, what would you like to have for a copy?I would be willing to trade, but I'd have to speak with Brian about it first, because he's quite keen on this recall idea. |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 08:00 |
OK, if you claim to be Brian's friend, then you will for sure know how Houston got out? When the master tape was found, where and by whom? |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 08:03 |
Mr. Scully wrote: OK, if you claim to be Brian's friend, then you will for sure know how Houston got out? When the master tape was found, where and by whom?As I said, if you know the right people within Queen Productions Ltd to ask, you can get just about anything. My most prized possession from them is the demos from Queen II - the original concept for the album was very different from the way it turned out. A fortunate act of history, I think. |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 08:05 |
"As I said, if you know the right people within Queen Productions Ltd to ask, you can get just about anything." That's pretty much true but in the same time there's a pretty strict ban to trade anything like that. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 08:06 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: First up, would you send me a list of what you're still looking for. Then I can at least check whether I have anything you want. casparmulders@hotmail.comThanks for that, Thomas. I am speaking with Brian again over the weekend, and I know he's on the look-out for mastertapes at the moment, so I'll email you with his and my wants probably on Sunday. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 08:08 |
Mr. Scully wrote: "As I said, if you know the right people within Queen Productions Ltd to ask, you can get just about anything." That's pretty much true but in the same time there's a pretty strict ban to trade anything like that.Well, if you know the right people to ask, this really isn't a problem. Do you think the Hot Space demos got out by accident? Brian loves your site, Mr Scully. So do I. But is the Queen radio thing OK? |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 08:13 |
"Do you think the Hot Space demos got out by accident?" That was a different issue. I know more about the leaking of Hot Space demos than you do and I'm still angry that they got out because a couple of people got into troubles because of that. IF you're getting stuff from Queen Productions (and it's theoretically possible because some people are), you very well know it's not possible to trade these things with anybody. If you offer Houston here in such an easy way, it pretty much sounds like a hoax to me. "Brian loves your site, Mr Scully. So do I. But is the Queen radio thing OK?" Queen radio is 100% legal (monthly fees are being paid) and Brian won't like my site anymore after this recent Benidorm issue. |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 08:19 |
Pfft, seems that the heath wave has serious negative effects at some people Incredible how polite some people are to reply seriously in this subject, I admire THEM!! |
| joeyjojo 09.08.2004 08:22 |
" The Left Testicle of Freddie, what would you like to have for a copy? " I'm guessing the other testicle. (Remember folks, just because you read it on the internet does NOT make it true!) |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 08:23 |
"(Remember folks, just because you read it on the internet does NOT make it true!)" That's what I was trying to suggest in a polite way :-) But nowadays it looks like everybody has Houston so why not... |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 08:25 |
Mr. Scully wrote: "Do you think the Hot Space demos got out by accident?" That was a different issue. I know more about the leaking of Hot Space demos than you do and I'm still angry that they got out because a couple of people got into troubles because of that.You and I both know that it was always going to get out because of how the material was originally 'distributed'. I was talking with Brian about something related - basically the more they suppress and hold back the box sets, the more recordings are going to leak out because there's money to be made from them. I don't agree with it - I think the band should make the money. I would never let go of my Queen II or Jazz demos for the world. Mr. Scully wrote: IF you're getting stuff from Queen Productions (and it's theoretically possible because some people are), you very well know it's not possible to trade these things with anybody. If you offer Houston here in such an easy way, it pretty much sounds like a hoax to me.Oh, c'mon Mr Scully - you and I know that the Houston concert and the demos are apples and pears. The Houston concert is virtually complete in its pirate form, and it has a lot less commercial value to QPL than the demos, etc. Besides which, the trade I or Brian would want to make would be for mastertapes, not the Staying Power 12". Mr. Scully wrote: "Brian loves your site, Mr Scully. So do I. But is the Queen radio thing OK?" Queen radio is 100% legal (monthly fees are being paid) and Brian won't like my site anymore after this recent Benidorm issue.Look, he understands that people are upset. Chill, Mr Scully. |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 08:27 |
strange... the dvd (ha!) is a thing QP does not have, but you can get it when you have the right connections with QP.. |
| Mr. Scully 09.08.2004 08:31 |
"Besides which, the trade I or Brian would want to make would be for mastertapes" Mastertapes from ThomasQuinn - yes, sure... It's a funny conversation, I almost like it :-) |
| Jjeroen 09.08.2004 08:34 |
Hey, Brian had tea at my place yesterday and he gave me a copy of a video with a full length Left Handed Marriage-gig, lasting over an hour. Wanna trade it for the full Houston thing? I can make DVD of it! Sounds like Freddie's nut is full of bollocks... Or is it just me? |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 08:35 |
Mr. Scully wrote: "Besides which, the trade I or Brian would want to make would be for mastertapes" Mastertapes from ThomasQuinn - yes, sure... It's a funny conversation, I almost like it :-)Think about this logically, Mr Scully. Queen are on the record about searching for mastertapes. Brian has told me on numerous occasions that there is a desire to get their back catalogue out on DVD-A and the demos list is only about 90% complete (ask Greg for confirmation of that). Where do you think would be the best place to advertise for these things? A Led Zeppelin message board, an online sewing circle, a troupe of circus performers, or.....a message board with 1000s of Queen fans? |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 08:41 |
argh, double posting, sorry |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 08:41 |
write Jacky of the fanclub to pulbish it at her website, that makes as much sense :) Brian sure will agree with that, so when you phone him (or is he phoning you) that should be settled sunday |
| Hank H. 09.08.2004 10:35 |
"I would be willing to trade, but I'd have to speak with Brian about it first, because he's quite keen on this recall idea." I don't get why you continue to seriously talk to that guy after this sentence. |
| QueenZeppelin 09.08.2004 10:49 |
Well, I was speaking to Freddie Mercury the other day, and he says he'd like to recall his left testicle. |
| Roy ® 09.08.2004 11:08 |
Mr. Testicle calls everyone who likes Wembley not a real fan. I think considering earlier topics that much fans absolute like Wembley. A real fan would keep Wembley and would also like to have Houston (offcourse). Do you even think that Brian May recall all Wembley dvd/cd's and trade them for Houston. Mr. May is a bussines man who like to make money. If he had the complete mastertape of Houston he should release it and earn all the extra money. He knows Houston is very wanted by the Queen fans. |
| John S Stuart 09.08.2004 11:50 |
The Left Testicle of Freddie: "Besides which, the trade I or Brian would want to make would be for mastertapes". Fair point. But there are only about a dozen "big" collectors in the planet. Brian knows who they are. So why does he not contact direct? After the fiasco with "Ibex", there is no way I would even present Queen with the "Backchat 12", let alone anything more valuable. If Brian wants mastertapes - then he can get off his arse and use a telephone, after all the people he would receive such material from would only be to happy to please their idol. If he is that clever, he can surely look up one's profile and use an e-mail address? |
| agneepath! 11994 09.08.2004 12:01 |
"Sounds like Freddie's nut is full of bollocks..." I think "bollocks" is the only way to describe this topic. |
| Adam Baboolal 09.08.2004 12:09 |
John S Stuart "If Brian wants mastertapes - then he can get off his arse and use a telephone" Why say something like that John? Why should he have to pay some collector for something he made?? I don't understand your criticism. Peace, Adam. |
| John S Stuart 09.08.2004 12:25 |
Why say something like that John? Why should he have to pay some collector for something he made?? I don't understand your criticism. Let me give you an example Adam. Fairly recently, the BBC wiped all its master audio and video tapes. Among this loss were many video episodes of "Dr Who" and "Top Of The Pops", as well as many unique Beatles audio recordings. If it was not for ONE dedicated Beatles fan who recorded the broadcast on reel-to-reel tape, then this material would be lost forever. Rather than thank the collector, the BBC wanted to sue for breach of copyright. Lesson to be learned - if you have any lost "Dr Who" masters - do NOT return to the BBC! The same is true for some BBC radio sessions and the "Keep Yourself Alive" video master. The BBC wiped those, not Brian, you or I. Now, If I did have a broadcast standard version - would it not be polite for Brian to ask directly - rather than winge in a fan forum? Making music is like making a Disney cartoon. There are many "acetates" of unused "Snow White" cells. Disney threw these out, and, when they appeared on the market, the new owner bought these rejections. Now they are very valuable, is it fair for Disney to cry foul? Let me leave you with these thoughts: Brian threw away his "Who Wants To Live Forever" demo into a skip (that is why it is called the skip demo). The Bellboy tape is so called because it was given as a tip to (surprisingly) a bell boy! His unused "Olympic Theme" was the property of Thames TV (who commisioned the piece) NOT Brian - this was LEGALLY auctioned so - if he wanted to bid - he could have done so. My point is, these pieces are legal. Brian knows where they are. If he wants them, he can have them returned, but at the acceptable market value. What is so unfair - and where is the criticism in that Adam? After all, it was Queen Productions who failed to return (or even acknowledge) the theft of Ibex, so it does not really inspired confidence does it? |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 12:34 |
All I can say is that the Brian I know, the Brian behind the public figure, dislikes the Wembley 86 DVD/CD issue - says it is far from Queen's best live work, but, along with Milton Keynes, which was also repeated constantly, it's the one Queen were *expected* to release first. He is deadly serious about this recall idea. |
| Adam Baboolal 09.08.2004 12:36 |
You managed to mention everything but what I queried - The mastertapes, e.g. News of the World. That was likely the next dvda, but because it was missing and probably nicked, no new dvda. I wasn't talking about all those things you mentioned. I could care less about them because they are like you say, legal, in a sense. But when studio work is missing, you've got to be worried. Brian did ask on his website if anyone could help. Not officially, but he was wondering. What is this, Brian bashing week? Oh sorry, year? Peace, Adam. |
| John S Stuart 09.08.2004 12:55 |
Adam - you seem to fail to see the point. No one is bashing Brian. If studio masters are missing - then logically - the thief has to be some "insider" at EMI - not those on this forum who would not have access to this type of material. It therefore does not take Columbo to find the dastard and to follow the chain of "ownership" as logically, only a handful of Queen fans would be available to meet the financial criteria anyway! In fact, the police offer this service for free! However, as far as I know, (and it is certainly true with Ibex) Queen did NOT want the police involved. Fair enough, but I think that the only way to catch a thief and discourage other thefts - is to employ the full muscle of the law. If somehow studio masters DID become available, they would do so on the black market - where people are interested only in cash. As sad as it is, if Brian genuinely desires this stuff back, then to compete, he needs to offer a cash reward as incentive. (After all, he is one of the UK's highest paid company directors and valued at c£85-100 million!). BTW: I do NOT support or condone theft in anyway - and I do not suggest that criminals should benefit from crime, but I DO think more positive action could be done to return this material. Therefore, In my opinion Adam, I feel that Queen Productions are NOT doing all they can to have this stuff returned, because if they were, they would be doing something - anything - to guarantee the safety of this material, but, (again in my opinion) sitting back passively complaining and expecting the fans to achieve the impossible - is NOT good enough! At the end of the day, all that has been returned is a fan video of Wembley rehearsals and an off-air video copy of "Seven Seas... hardly inspirational stuff is it? |
| HDvorak 09.08.2004 13:37 |
The Houston Summit had their own in-house video team, which, starting in the mid 70s regularly filmed concerts there. Is this also the source of the Queen video, or was this done by another crew, which Queen hired? Currently, other '77 Summit video boots in circulation are from Aerosmith, Kiss and ZZTop. Aledgedly, there's also one from Zep, which is being hoarded. Speaking which, when Pagey was putting together the Zep DVD, he put the word out to the trading community, that he was looking for all known footage. Actually, a great idea would be, for Queen to compile a 70s DVD collection. |
| Hank H. 09.08.2004 13:56 |
"...the Brian I know, the Brian behind the public figure, dislikes the Wembley 86 DVD/CD issue..." So the Brian you know is not Brian May, I guess. |
| KevMull 09.08.2004 13:58 |
"Given the sub-standard nature of the CD/DVD release of Wembley 86 (ie backing musicians, 4:3 aspect ratio" DUH!! What excactly is wrong with the correct aspect ratio (4:3)? Some people will just never get their head round it will they! |
| Daz85 09.08.2004 14:34 |
Kevo: "did I smell ratio?!" :-P Sorry mate :-P This topic is bollocks... didn't Brian say on the recent Virgin radio interview how into the Wembley DVD he's been lately? Also, the fans know it's a darn good product. Plus, can you really take somebody who calls themself "The Left Testicle of Freddie"? I rest my case :-D |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 15:30 |
Snipe if you will, but BRIAN MAY, the BRIAN MAY I know does not like Wembley 86. Would he really say on national radio that he thought this product was substandard? The only reason he put it out was to finance the expansion of WWRY out of QPL's cashflow. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 15:53 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: To be completely honest, and no offence meant, I think the WWRY musical was a mistake. It's really like he was following ABBA, which I would think of as a principal sin.I agree - I told him at the time. I said that Queen should save their stage stuff for that Queen Symphony guy. I've got to approach these types of thing with Brian carefully because he has suffered a lot from depression and self-doubt in his life, especially during the 90s, and he can fly off the handle if you try to persuade him not to do something he really wants to do. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 15:59 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Hey, to get rid of all these people doubting you, could you maybe give some convincing proof that you're telling the truth?Like what, though? Anything I offer as proof could be fabricated. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 16:07 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Ask Brian to mention you in his Soapbox. That can be done, can't it?Great thinking. I'm speaking with him over the weekend and I'll ask him. |
| SallyJ. 09.08.2004 16:30 |
It has to be more than just mentioning a name, cos even I am mentioned on there. So, he would have to mention your nickname and say that all you said on here is true. Fair enough? |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 16:31 |
SallyJ. wrote: It has to be more than just mentioning a name, cos even I am mentioned on there. So, he would have to mention your nickname and say that all you said on here is true. Fair enough?Fine. I am due to speak with him on Saturday, and I'll ask him to identify me and put pictures up of us together. Whether he does or not is of course out of my control, but I will ask. |
| SallyJ. 09.08.2004 16:40 |
Oh don't get me wrong, we've had a lot of dreamers and people who live in a fantasy world around here. So you can't blame us for not believing you right away. And don't blame us for never believing you either, if you aren't able to proof anything, in the end. See, we've heard it all before. For now I will wait for Brian to mention your nickname in the soapbox and telling us that all you say on this noticeboard is true. I hope he does. Would be nice for a change, to have someone here who says weird things which turn out to be true! |
| Maz 09.08.2004 16:56 |
Ever beat Brian in Pinball? |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 16:58 |
I shall post brian this link right away, let's see what the truth is |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 09.08.2004 17:01 |
Maybe S@turn meant his just e-mailing the link to Brian. |
| Roy ® 09.08.2004 17:02 |
Don't you that, everyone has got Brian's private number and having a cup of tea with him erery Sunday morning. |
| Roy ® 09.08.2004 17:03 |
Don't you that, everyone has got Brian's private number and having a cup of tea with him every Sunday morning. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 09.08.2004 17:05 |
If you're e-mailing it to him, just put 'The musical is amazing!' in the subject line. That could work. |
| Roy ® 09.08.2004 17:07 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Do you think Brian will bother looking at this?I don't think he is gonna waste his time to this dicussion. Because why doesn't Brian came with al these facts. |
| Roy ® 09.08.2004 17:11 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Because he's a little preoccupied with the musical? Hey, it's just a suggestion!Thats possible, but he is filling his soapbox with non interesting information |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 09.08.2004 17:12 |
I really wonder what part Roger had in the idea for the musical, since he's made a lot of comments opposing musicals in general. It seems like it's more Brian's project than Roger's. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 09.08.2004 17:14 |
The musical is definitely Brian's baby. Roger's just a little bit bored with life and is going along for the ride. No disrespect to him, but he's not the world's most talented songwriter and has trouble getting his work released. |
| S@turn 09.08.2004 17:20 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Now wait a minute, you're not going to tell me you claim to know Brian as well?I dont believe the testicles, they talk more from the *ss then that they make sense Every serious reaction is ignored, what is okay for me, but I get a bit pissed off that over a persons' head those things are written Of course I don't know brian personally I just know him 30 years for his music and all, and that's why I respect him Testicles are not build to talk and should do what they are good in :) |
| Holly2003 09.08.2004 22:39 |
"Ever beat Brian in Pinball?" Nice one :) |
| joeyjojo 09.08.2004 23:50 |
Wow people. Hey...I was talking to Brian this weekend, and he's got some great stock tips he asked me to pass along to you. He also found a GREAT deal on viagra and swears by the new penis enlargement pills he's been using. He's only asking that you send me $100 via paypal for all this great info! Brian swears this stuff is the best. |
| Mr. Scully 10.08.2004 02:40 |
John, there are a few cases when you're wrong and this is one of them. BBC actually DO have the master tapes with all six BBC sessions. I'm more than 100% sure about that. |
| Fenderek 10.08.2004 03:36 |
Well, this thread (and the one about QueenII demos) sure are fun to read and have their ridiculous moments, but... compared to "Freddie=Frodo" or crap like that it's great!!! At last we're talking about QUEEN again!!!!! |
| inu-liger 10.08.2004 03:40 |
BBC actually DO have the master tapes with all six BBC sessions. I'm more than 100% sure about that.I'll have to agree with you on that one, Mr. Scully. But one of the tapes are damaged for sure (Ogre Battle being affected severely, as we all know), so whether we'll get everything officially released all in one piece (or disc), I kinda doubt... |
| agneepath! 11994 10.08.2004 05:09 |
Drs Daja - Thomas quinn was referring to Houston 77. |
| John S Stuart 10.08.2004 07:21 |
Mr Scully "BBC actually DO have the master tapes with all six BBC sessions. I'm more than 100% sure about that". Yes - Ofcourse they do - NOW. But they did originally record over the master tapes and therefore they were "lost" forever. Thakfully they still survive - but not due to the BBC. For example; "The Freddie's Boy's AT The Beeb" bootleg, with the unreleased "Queen" BBC session - came from an Australian source. Thankfully, the BBC had sold a version to an Aussie affiliated station. Years after the BBC erased their master, the Aussie's still held theirs. Yet, it was the BBC (not Queen or the Aussies) who wanted to drag the bootleggers into court. You also know that "Queen II" was returned by a private collector. The British Bast*rd Corporation are world famous for this sort of behaviour. |
| Mr. Scully 10.08.2004 07:26 |
From what I heard, the master tapes were actually found in BBC archives only recently (weeks/months ago max.), that's why Queen had to buy the sessions from you - because several years ago BBC denied having them. Same counts for Golders Green complete recording. |
| John S Stuart 10.08.2004 07:30 |
Thanks. That is news to me - and you may well be correct. Can I ask your source for that - because obviously I missed that one. Still, the BBC are far from the world's most efficient organisation - so I still stand surprised if they "Really" did find them! Perhaps they could start looking for more Dr Who! |
| Mr. Scully 10.08.2004 08:30 |
I'd prefer to keep the source secret. But I'm sure about it. In fact BBC came (not to me!) and said "we found some Queen tapes, can you have a look at them"? So I guess Queen Productions are now a bit angry if they had to pay you for your recordings off the radio :-) |
| jasen101 11.08.2004 00:09 |
to say that the wembley 86 concert DVD/CD is substandard is retarded. You're an idiot. It is one of Queen's best. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 11.08.2004 08:03 |
jasen101 wrote: to say that the wembley 86 concert DVD/CD is substandard is retarded. You're an idiot. It is one of Queen's best.I hate it, and so does Brian. To accuse someone of being an idiot and retarded because they dislike something you like demonstrates the limited heights of your intelligence, fuckwit. |
| jasen101 11.08.2004 17:10 |
You are an idiot! Only fuckwits come up with lame ideas like recalling a dvd. |
| NoOneButYou1975 11.08.2004 17:23 |
jasen101 wrote: You are an idiot! Only fuckwits come up with lame ideas like recalling a dvd.i know its a joke but your quote about only fuckwits come up with lame ideas recalling a dvd...what if company itself does that???? |
| musicalprostitute 11.08.2004 17:36 |
I just don't understand...If you know Brian, and talk to him on a regular basis, then i have to ask a question left testicle, where is Brian at this moment. Answer that and i will believe that you know him. Because i know where he is. |
| Sir B.A Baracus 11.08.2004 17:53 |
I received this from Hollywood Records regarding my distaste at the purchase of Live At Wembley'86: Dear Mr. Baracus, You are cordially invited to go and fuck yourself. Sincerely, Mr. Hollywood Records Himself. |
| The Left Testicle of Freddie 11.08.2004 20:00 |
jasen101 wrote: You are an idiot! Only fuckwits come up with lame ideas like recalling a dvd.Irony is lost on you, fucktard. |
| jasen101 11.08.2004 23:05 |
go jump of a bridge fuckwad :) |