| Brian_Mays_Wig 03.08.2004 14:24 |
I read that Led Zepplin had not allowed Sir Bob to use thier performance for the dvd. Very dissapointing. I'd have thought thet everybody involved would want to try and raise as much money as possible for Africa. It says that it was because Led Zepplin had a poor performance cos Phil Collins was jetlagged! C'mon. Well, I for one will buy the DVD not just because Queen are on it, because we can help raise the money. And I want to watch the whole gig because I was only 7 years old and although I remember it being on the TV, my attention span wasnst as long as it is now! And it would be great to compare how Queen did against everybody else???? Were they really THAT much better than everybody else? |
| David Jones 03.08.2004 14:30 |
That is a shame... I wasn't even born when it happened (well, I was very nearly!) so it should be great to see most of the other artists for the first time!... |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 03.08.2004 16:03 |
That's too bad. I was hoping to see the entire concert as it actually happened. |
| rhapsody__87 03.08.2004 20:30 |
I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT. |
| jericho05 03.08.2004 20:44 |
I watched the whole show live all day when I was 16. I waited a long time for my favorite band Queen. They indeed did steal the show as I recall. Only U2 even came close. Being from Canada it seemed as if they had disappeared for awhile but the live aid set proved they rocked! Sadly the live comeback was short lived. |
| Daburcor? 03.08.2004 23:01 |
rhapsody__87 wrote: I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT.Just another reason I don't like Led Zeplin. ;) |
| MercuryArts 03.08.2004 23:23 |
That is a downer! I remember the show. I too havent seen Queen entire performance. Mainly cause Mtv and ABC cut them short. I saw Zep's set. Its far from perfect. Jimmy is was out of tune on Rock & Roll. Roberts voice is less than great. He sounded like he needed to clear his throat. Whole Lotta Love is better. But Collins screws up the drums in the solo, badly! He sucks! I never liked him. I never understood why they needed two drummers. Tony Thompson is awesome, he could have handled it alone. Stairway was OK. Jimmy played well. But Robert came in at the end of the solo a few bars too early. Jonesy was the best one. He came in more than prepared for the gig. I guess more than 90 min. of rehersal would have helped a bit more. So I can understand if they dont want to be included but at the same moment, its 19 yrs ago. (god i'm old), get past your egos and let the fans have it. Live Led Zeppelin is like sex, even when it wasn't great, it was still pretty good! |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2004 01:22 |
The good Dan. ;) wrote:Jimmy Page is a perfectionist. I don't blame him for not wanting this performance released, as he'd probably have ZERO control over how it looks/sounds in the end. Live Aid was a pretty poor performance, for the reasons said above. I'm with Jimmy on this one.rhapsody__87 wrote: I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT.Just another reason I don't like Led Zeplin. ;) If anyone wants to see it, then track down a bootleg. It's not hard to find one. |
| QueenSite 04.08.2004 03:44 |
I remember that day quite vividly, and Led Zep's performance had many low points (expecially Rock and roll). But there were other artists having bad performances, ad Duran Duran for example, and even Bowie set is not that exciting |
| RMT Fan 04.08.2004 04:06 |
Hey, but that's not only the question whether it was good or not. Sometimes it is a question of recalling it to your mind. Or just you want to get to know how it was (I was 4 at the time...). I saw Queen's performance, I heard the story behind it. But saw nothing but that. And Live Aid is a 'bible' concert for every music lover. And how do I get to know? Have I to look for a bootleg? And then... they (musicians, their managers and so on) write they gonna chase those searching for boots. Then why? If they did give such performance why am I not allowed to watch it? I have to see it first to tell whether they did well or not. Brian also likes to better some parts. And for me that's a bit strange. Because if he thinks listener is going to critisise him all the time for the performance then he doesn't believe in people's love to his music. We have to take it generally, whether he's good or not. Everybody can have a worse day. And hiding that from public, saying I didn't play like that is lying. Because if you disuss this here it means you know Led Zeps took part. And then you get a dvd and you wonder why lack of Led Zeps. And then you well know why they aren't there. They were too poor! And by that you show EVERYONE they did bad at the concert. And if they were put on the dvd maybe it wasn't that obvious they did bad and maybe they kept their faces :) |
| ogre t raylot 04.08.2004 04:21 |
I would skip 85% of Live Aid myself - a lot of it is complete and utter piffle, good job it was for charity otherwise I'm sure a lot of people would have demanded their money back.
Other low points include The Who, Bob Dylan, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood.
In fact apart from the Queen performance and Neil Young I'm struggling to remember anything worth buying, and so I wouldn't spend £15 on the Live Aid video, let alone £30.
QueenSite wrote: I remember that day quite vividly, and Led Zep's performance had many low points (expecially Rock and roll). But there were other artists having bad performances, ad Duran Duran for example, and even Bowie set is not that exciting |
| Jjeroen 04.08.2004 04:37 |
That's right. I'm a big Bowie fan but was astonished to read that they (the producers of the dvd) called his performance a highlight. To be honest: it's one of the worst performances by Bowie I ever heard. But that's maybe also because I hate his stuff from the 80's and the sound he had live in those days. Zepp then? Also a big big fan. I have the entire show on video and I do understand why they preferred to keep the show off the dvd. I also feel it as a disgrace. The show just was very very bad! Not 'not that good', just simply awfull. A lot went wrong, also technically, I'm sure it was not just because of Phil Collins' jetlag. Indeed both Page and Plant were on their worst on that day. True, it would have been appropriate in a lot of ways to include their performance anyway, but I do understand why they won't give permission... And of course I would have liked it to have it on video anyway. Hey MercuryArts; you obviously haven't had anybody in your bed that REALY sucked?! ;-))) |
| Daz85 04.08.2004 04:56 |
Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise. I still think they should the performance though, as people will seek out the bootlegs that contain the whole performance. You know you all would if a official release contained only part of a Queen show when you could get the whole thing from a TV sourced boot. |
| QueenSite 04.08.2004 06:19 |
Remember that Robert Plant refused to have Innuendo included in the FM Tribute vhs/dvd, so this is history repeating |
| Miracle Man 04.08.2004 15:46 |
Is it going to be the entire day, or just selected performances? |
| Miracle Man 04.08.2004 16:11 |
Great. I was hoping that it would be. |
| Mr Mercury 04.08.2004 16:43 |
At least one part of the DVD (sound wise) has been re-recorded as Paul McCartney has gone into the studio to redo his vocals for Let It Be - the song used for the finale of the UK concert. In the original broadcast his mic cut out during the song. I personally think they should leave it as is (the whole concert that is). Dave |
| Mr.Jingles 04.08.2004 18:30 |
So OK... sure Phil Collins is not Bonham, yet I've seen clips of the performance which although not as good as expected, yet it wasn't absolutely awful. Everyone has their own opinion. The importance of this Live Aid DVD set is that this is for charity. Hunger in Africa is still far from over, so each performance (especially from a legendary band like Led Zeppelin counts). We know for sure that lots of Led Zep fans won't buy the Live Aid DVD if their performance is not inlcluded. What I don't understand is why Led Zep wouldn't allow their peformance to be included, but yet Jimmy Page doesn't mind allowing Sean Puffy Combs to take a classic song like 'Kashmir' and totally rip it apart by making an awful rap version of it. |
| the oppositionist 04.08.2004 19:40 |
This is a similar sad outcome to the freddie pre concert performances. they werent allowed to include those on freddies dvd either. copywrite sometimes makes me really really sad. |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2004 19:56 |
Darren Robins wrote: Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise.What's your source? ThomasQuinn wrote: I read in an official publication that the concert will be released FULL and UNEDITED, so I think this is just gossip.What's your source? |
| Penis - Vagina 05.08.2004 07:30 |
Maybe McCartney will also dub in his lovely deceased wife performing some background vocals: link |
| ogre t raylot 05.08.2004 07:46 |
The yewff of today are so helples....
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Sir GH wrote:Darren Robins wrote: Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise.What's your source?ThomasQuinn wrote: I read in an official publication that the concert will be released FULL and UNEDITED, so I think this is just gossip.What's your source? |
| Penis - Vagina 05.08.2004 08:55 |
Led Zep isn't mentioned at all on that page and is notably absent from the extensive artists list. |
| NoOneButYou1975 05.08.2004 09:27 |
Sir GH wrote:did u just read the last part?Darren Robins wrote: Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise.What's your source?ThomasQuinn wrote: I read in an official publication that the concert will be released FULL and UNEDITED, so I think this is just gossip.What's your source? so I think this is just gossip |
| Lord Blackadder 05.08.2004 14:38 |
I didn't think artists would be allowed to refuse. The concert was for charity and that's that. But someone has to be a spoil sport. Their still the second best thing ever though. |
| Rien 05.08.2004 15:19 |
The part of Led Zeppelin can easily be found on the Internet. I've downloaded it and I must say that Robert Plant has aged a lot in 7 years (comparing that performance with the Freddie Tribute)! Robert's performance isn't bad at all. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 05.08.2004 15:22 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: The full thing. So both UK and US and COMPLETE.Youre wrong. Led Zep will NOT be included on the DVD. |
| Penis - Vagina 05.08.2004 15:24 |
Hopefully everyone has become aware of rights problems by now and there will be no more nonsense like this in the future. Rights should always be obtained in a package deal now that includes broadcast, rebroadcast, audio and video releases... and the same goes for all these movie and TV shows which are having to replace music because they can't get DVD rights. It's complete bullshit. |
| rhapsody__87 05.08.2004 17:14 |
On Geldof's site, it says that it "includes"... which means they can't list every single artist there. That's how I look at it, at least. |
| NoOneButYou1975 07.08.2004 11:43 |
Led Zeppelin will not allow their performance to be used, stating that the three remaining members (Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones) all agreed that the performance was sub-par. However, Page and Plant are going to send proceeds from sales of their own upcoming Page/Plant DVD to the Live Aid Charity, and Jones is also sending proceeds from his upcoming solo tour to the Charity The article I read also mentioned that Elton John has also refused to let his set be used on the DVD, although the article says that neither Elton nor his reps would give a reason why.... if accurate, that's a shame about Elton's withdrawal....maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd. |
| Maz 07.08.2004 12:19 |
NoOneButYou1975 wrote: maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd.What Best Buy DVD? |
| pma 07.08.2004 12:47 |
The Life and Times of Zeni wrote:The upcoming 4-DVD boxset of live stuff,NoOneButYou1975 wrote: maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd.What Best Buy DVD? rumoured to contain atleast the 1972 Royal Philharmonic Concert in 5.1 Just rumoured. I bet it will be recent "crap"...:-P |
| NoOneButYou1975 07.08.2004 14:53 |
pma wrote:pfft...i'd take anything of Elton's be it cd or dvd that they release :PThe Life and Times of Zeni wrote:The upcoming 4-DVD boxset of live stuff, rumoured to contain atleast the 1972 Royal Philharmonic Concert in 5.1 Just rumoured. I bet it will be recent "crap"...:-PNoOneButYou1975 wrote: maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd.What Best Buy DVD? |
| Maz 07.08.2004 15:17 |
I take it this set will be similar to the Rolling Stones set that Best Buy sold awhile back? That set pissed off a lot of music retailers, but did gangbusters for Best Buy. |
| The Real Wizard 07.08.2004 15:26 |
NoOneButYou1975 wrote: did u just read the last part?Sure I did. One person said it'd be full and unedited, and another person said Zeppelin won't allow their performance to be released officially. I suppose there could be some slight linguistic ambiguity, but I'm interpreting the comment about gossip as referring to LZ's words. |
| Daz85 07.08.2004 15:31 |
There's a track list for the DVD over at BrianMay.com. Though it hasn't been confirmed, I noticed The Who performance is missing also. I bet Bob Geldof is quite disapointed at the ammount of refusals he's been getting. At least the Queen set appears to be intact. |
| NoOneButYou1975 07.08.2004 15:42 |
The Life and Times of Zeni wrote: I take it this set will be similar to the Rolling Stones set that Best Buy sold awhile back? That set pissed off a lot of music retailers, but did gangbusters for Best Buy.yeah something like that.... |
| Adam Baboolal 07.08.2004 18:17 |
Two things: 1. If Elton is keeping it back for a separate release of his own, that is sickening. And 2. The amount of artists dropping off the dvd keeps growing and growing. Also sickening. But on that last one I must add, I don't think they should be rushing to get this thing into the shops by November. Does anyone think all those artists would still have dropped out had it been released the following year? Peace, Adam. |
| NoOneButYou1975 07.08.2004 18:31 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Two things: 1. If Elton is keeping it back for a separate release of his own, that is sickening. And 2. The amount of artists dropping off the dvd keeps growing and growing. Also sickening. But on that last one I must add, I don't think they should be rushing to get this thing into the shops by November. Does anyone think all those artists would still have dropped out had it been released the following year? Peace, Adam.I dont think that and i know you said IF Elton would release it on his own...he'd put it out on a seperate release just on his own..and the last one is a loaded question cause ...we know the Led Zep one wouldnt be on it if it was this year or next....due to the bad performance so they say that was in the show |
| pma 15.09.2004 07:29 |
NoOneButYou1975 wrote:Good for him, atleast someone will buy it.pma wrote:pfft...i'd take anything of Elton's be it cd or dvd that they release :PThe Life and Times of Zeni wrote:The upcoming 4-DVD boxset of live stuff, rumoured to contain atleast the 1972 Royal Philharmonic Concert in 5.1 Just rumoured. I bet it will be recent "crap"...:-PNoOneButYou1975 wrote: maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd.What Best Buy DVD? Now, did I recall someone mentioning here earlier something about 'RECENT CRAP'? link Disappointing... |
| Lord Blackadder 15.09.2004 10:39 |
Zeppelin wont let there performance be shown because they think it wasn't good enough. Robert Plant said they were annoyed by Phil Collin's drumming. He didn't know when to hit the drum and was too busy looking at the cameras to do his job properly. Besides, the profit from an upcoming Zep release is going to the Band Aid charity so it's forgivable in a sense. |
| NoOneButYou1975 15.09.2004 12:37 |
pma wrote:Elton's set although not complete WILL BE on the dvd set ...NoOneButYou1975 wrote:Good for him, atleast someone will buy it. Now, did I recall someone mentioning here earlier something about 'RECENT CRAP'? link Disappointing...pma wrote:pfft...i'd take anything of Elton's be it cd or dvd that they release :PThe Life and Times of Zeni wrote:The upcoming 4-DVD boxset of live stuff, rumoured to contain atleast the 1972 Royal Philharmonic Concert in 5.1 Just rumoured. I bet it will be recent "crap"...:-PNoOneButYou1975 wrote: maybe Elton didn't want his appearance to be shown because they will be used in the Best Buy dvd.What Best Buy DVD? |
| MayFan 15.09.2004 16:58 |
Let me first say that I am a huge Led Zeppelin fan. They are, without a doubt, my favorite band in the world. The first time I heard "Black Dog" come steamrolling through my stereo, it was like finding religion. Jimmy Page is the whole reason I picked up the guitar in the first place. Having said that, LZ was absolutely horrifying at Live Aid. Phil missed almost all his cues, Page's guitars were out of tune (yes I think all of them!), and Plant's voice was not of good quality. Trust me when I say LZ is doing them a favor by not allowing it. If you need to see Zep live, buy the 2DVD set that came out a year or 2 ago. You won't regret it. |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 16.09.2004 00:33 |
This is so precious: "Phil Collins was jetlagged". R-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght. Look, no matter what his excuse (jetlag, premature balding, ovarian cancer, 24-hour black plague) there's a cure for this that any ROCK veteran already knows; who the hell let Collins out on the stage without seeing Stickells first (if ya needafix, if ya wannahigh) if he was so g-d jetlagged? It's not like coke was SCARCE in the 80's, or anything... CHEEEEE-RISSSAKES! |