Brian_Mays_Wig 11.07.2004 15:26 |
Having just read his latest 'rant' on his soapbox, I find it unbeleivable that he can sometimes talk the way he does. Fair play, he sticks up for Wayne Rooney and Slates Ken Livingston, but to go on about autograph hunters and picture takers the way he does really annoys me. Who put themselves in that position in the first place??? He's always been one of the most recognised people in the world, and people arent gonna ignore him! Im sorry Brian, if you dont like it - lump it! We dont need to hear it! <<<<Has his ranting head on too. |
deleted user 11.07.2004 16:47 |
I apologize in advance, as this is certainly going to result in me being stigmatized as a sycophant, but I somehow understand what Brian's on about. He's had a bad day, I guess. Sometimes you simply want to be left alone and go out as a private person without being bothered by strangers, which ain't always easy being a celeb. It's really that kind of situation he's talking about. It's not as if he won't let you take a picture when he's actually out there in public person-mode, as Brian May (on tour or whatsoever). In fact, he's one of the nicest persons you could meet then, signing anything you give him etc...and that's what put them into their position, rather than unmotivated picture taking on - from Bri's perspective - one of the rare evenings he just would like to go out in privacy. Celebs are often wary and defensive of their private moments, because they don't get that many of them. Camera-clicking from all angles destroy these moments. And now he's unhappy about it and lets off some steam on his soapbox, because that's the place where he types about what he feels, which casually causes uproar among fans, because it makes them realize that he actually is a person (with ups and downs, feeling, opinions and all this useless stuff), rather than a sort of hypothetical rock-god that behaves according to everyone's personal expectations and never gets upset about anything. Guess I was in a ranting mode as well, sorry for that. No offence inteded. |
Rien 11.07.2004 16:57 |
You said it right, Philipp! Perhaps in a day or so Brian will say that he didn't mean it. (or not, no problem) His soapbox is indeed his outlet and he just writes what he feels. And he almost always takes time for his fans. Sometimes just minutes, but he'll take time. And the least thing he'll do is say hello. |
Adam Baboolal 11.07.2004 17:07 |
I totally agree Philipp. Sometimes people like Brian need their own time. Something which as you said, is very rare. And this is for the rest of their lives. I think after 30 years for Brian to be called the nice guy of rock, is well earned. And in general, NO-ONE deserves to be harrassed, no matter what their celebrity status may be. Peace, Adam. |
jericho05 11.07.2004 17:22 |
Brian's celebrity is well earned ; so is his privacy. |
SallyJ. 11.07.2004 17:53 |
Yes I agree with what Philip said as well. |
the oppositionist 11.07.2004 18:10 |
i agree with brian_mays_wig. Unfortunately brian is using that soap box of his more and more to blow off steam and although he has every right to, fans= money and he cant go and lose them, which is what he will do if one day he goes to far. That day is looming larger and larger. |
deleted user 11.07.2004 18:37 |
OH SHIT, ALL THAT...CRAP AGAIN!! I can't stand for Brian complaining anymore... I enjoyed Formula 1 cars in Regen Street very much and so did thousands people... who cares if he can't reach his damn musical place easily, for 1 day??? He just thinks about it... and I think he wouldn't have complained if they installed a planetarium in Regent Street for 1 day, uh?? He's more a producer and a guest musician than a rock and roll star now, and it's ok: we accepted that. But stop complaining everyday, it's annoying everyone: if he can't stand for such things, just does like John Deacon: disappear and have all the cups of tea that he wants. I just hope he won't bother too much if in Benidorm I'm gonna go by him, asking for a pic or an autograph, after I put all my money in his music and I changed my summer holidays just to be in Spain to see he and Rog. Bah. |
Sir Archie 'Tiffany' Leach 11.07.2004 18:42 |
If people don't like his rants why are they reading his soapbox so often? If he wants to gripe let him, he could always do a George Michael and stop it altogether. |
Adam Baboolal 11.07.2004 19:00 |
hangman wrote: I can't stand for Brian complaining anymore... I enjoyed Formula 1 cars in Regen Street very much and so did thousands people... who cares if he can't reach his damn musical place easily, for 1 day???Well, if you had an evening planned to see a musical and couldn't get there, maybe you'd feel the same. He just thinks about it... and I think he wouldn't have complained if they installed a planetarium in Regent Street for 1 day, uh??Eh? He's more a producer and a guest musician than a rock and roll star now, and it's ok: we accepted that.As if that should matter? Why point that out? But stop complaining everyday, it's annoying everyone: if he can't stand for such things, just does like John Deacon: disappear and have all the cups of tea that he wants.A bit over the top with "everyday," but you know what? He has the right. Just cause you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell him to stop doing it. It's not fair and it's very rude. I just hope he won't bother too much if in Benidorm I'm gonna go by him, asking for a pic or an autograph, after I put all my money in his music and I changed my summer holidays just to be in Spain to see he and Rog. Bah.When I met him, he was very nice. I asked for his autograph and waited my turn as others simply thrust their item in front of him, without asking. From what I read on his site, I'm sure he just had a bad day. We all have that moment when we mouth off. At least Brian was good about it and made it interesting, e.g. Ken Livingston! I think Brian summed it up pretty well - "When you're in a position like I've been for years now, a camera pointed at you feels like a threat. Makes you feel like a tourist attraction. Like a person not deserving of any consideration or respect, or privacy. Makes you feel like no-one wants to treat you like a person at all - they all want something" We can only imagine how it feels after thirty years. But I have to sympathise with him on this one. When you read that line I've quoted, do you not wonder why he's written this down for all to see? I think some fans don't always think about how the guy really feels. Peace, Adam. |
fairydandy 11.07.2004 19:05 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: If people don't like his rants why are they reading his soapbox so often? If he wants to gripe let him, he could always do a George Michael and stop it altogether.Personally I read his website for the Queen news, as it is normally the place to get it first. Queenzone are normally second and QOL some weeks later. Having said that, he often winds me up with his Soapbox mutterings whilst I am there, and he has on this occasion too. |
Gunpowder Gelatine 11.07.2004 19:35 |
I think it must be hard for him, always having people stalking you, invading your life and privacy, but still, it's the price to pay for fame. Even though he's a celebrity, he still has his bad days, and his rantings are proof of that. |
The Black Queen 11.07.2004 19:54 |
"Sometimes Brian really pisses me off." Join the club. |
Future Manager 11.07.2004 20:17 |
Well, the soapbox is just like a diary. Part of it is used to ventilate feelings. I'm sure that if anyone here had an online diary updated on almost a daily basis, there would be more than enough rants in it. Brian is human too, he's quite an emotional guy. I agree that if you think Brian rants too much for your taste, don't read it. Personally I think it's quite interesting to read about not only things in the past, what he liked and still likes, but also what bothers him. You can get to know this wonderful guy better... that's not the case with every international rockstar. |
Matti 11.07.2004 21:48 |
I love reading his soapbox. I would still ask him for his autograph and take a picture if possible if I ever saw/met him though. I'm sorry it makes him upset or whatever but I would probably kill myself if I didn't. |
Whatinthewhatthe? 11.07.2004 22:06 |
To quote Freddie: "Oh, this is fun!..." I don't see many of Brian's stature (in the music industry) answering emails from fans on their own website. Brian is very rare -- he really does care what fans think. Even though he's a tad busy with musicals, DVDs and CD re-re-re-releases, he takes (makes!) time to talk and give his opinions. I think that's the person he is (and a caring Cancer at that). I have the utmost regard for him because he's answered many of my emails and even wrote me once asking about Nashville, which was out of the blue and very unexpected! Brian's a very normal human being, and a great person as well as a super performer (and astronomer!). We should all be thankful he's not like other celebrities that don't remember the fans who are responsible for their popularity -- talk about biting the hand that feeds them! I think Freddie would have been the same way, and maybe John too had he not virtually disappeared from view. Roger's much too busy and it's not really in his nature to be like Brian. I'm sure he does care about his fans but he has other fish to fry! |
Daburcor? 11.07.2004 23:15 |
I'm with you Lisa. Brian is a great guy! I have exchanged a number of e-mails with him, and he really is just a regular guy. Most people don't think celebrities have the right to get upset or vent in a public forum, But, They're still people, Just like the rest of us... And if the rest of us can do it, So can they. Many seem to forget that. |
Richard Orchard 12.07.2004 00:36 |
i think brian is just having a bad day. I am sure he knows what it is like to meet a hero! I have met him twice, and he always seemed very nice. He takes a pen with him to sign stuff for people! |
Daburcor? 12.07.2004 00:49 |
Lucky you Richard! I hope I'm lucky enough to meet him one day... :/ |
deleted user 12.07.2004 03:12 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Well, if you had an evening planned to see a musical and couldn't get there, maybe you'd feel the same. Where do people live, on planet Mars? The F1 parade in Regent Street was planned since a month.He just thinks about it... and I think he wouldn't have complained if they installed a planetarium in Regent Street for 1 day, uh??Adam Baboolal wrote: Eh? Should I paint it for you? The fact that Brian May doesn't give a damn about F1 doesn't mean that what they did there it's crap, as he described. I meant that if they have organized a "one-day-only Planetarium" in Regent Street instead of a car parade, Brian May wouldn't have complained that much, but he would have joined the folks.He's more a producer and a guest musician than a rock and roll star now, and it's ok: we accepted that.Adam Baboolal wrote: As if that should matter? Why point that out? Oh, it doesn't matter? What a fan is for, then? For accepting and buying everything is marked as Queen or Brian May? Or we can only talk positive about our own passion? Everyone is entitled to give opinions and, most of all, to say facts.But stop complaining everyday, it's annoying everyone: if he can't stand for such things, just does like John Deacon: disappear and have all the cups of tea that he wants.Adam Baboolal wrote: A bit over the top with "everyday," but you know what? He has the right. Just cause you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell him to stop doing it. It's not fair and it's very rude. C'mon... rude?? I'm just discussing and I think that all the people but you understood what I meant with "stop complaining everyday"... looking for some controversy?I just hope he won't bother too much if in Benidorm I'm gonna go by him, asking for a pic or an autograph, after I put all my money in his music and I changed my summer holidays just to be in Spain to see he and Rog.Adam Baboolal wrote: Bah. Burp.Adam Baboolal wrote: When I met him, he was very nice. I asked for his autograph and waited my turn as others simply thrust their item in front of him, without asking. From what I read on his site, I'm sure he just had a bad day. We all have that moment when we mouth off. At least Brian was good about it and made it interesting, e.g. Ken Livingston! I think Brian summed it up pretty well - "When you're in a position like I've been for years now, a camera pointed at you feels like a threat. Makes you feel like a tourist attraction. Like a person not deserving of any consideration or respect, or privacy. Makes you feel like no-one wants to treat you like a person at all - they all want something" We can only imagine how it feels after thirty years. But I have to sympathise with him on this one. When you read that line I've quoted, do you not wonder why he's written this down for all to see? I think some fans don't always think about how the guy really feels.Accepting or not, he's a public person and he has to deal with it. He's not only a VIP when he goes on stage playing some solos: I cant remember of any other rock stars complaining from time to time the way Brian does. |
YourValentine 12.07.2004 03:32 |
"I have the utmost regard for him because he's answered many of my emails" I am sure you told him about the plastic surgery he needs, his overweight and his hair extension and how you pray for his marriage because of all these imperfections - just to prove your utmost regard. Too bad that John Deacon does not make himself such an easy target for your deep affection. |
Sonja 12.07.2004 03:59 |
<font color=#CC0000>hangman wrote: OH SHIT, ALL THAT...CRAP AGAIN!! I can't stand for Brian complaining anymore... I enjoyed Formula 1 cars in Regen Street very much and so did thousands people... who cares if he can't reach his damn musical place easily, for 1 day??? He just thinks about it... and I think he wouldn't have complained if they installed a planetarium in Regent Street for 1 day, uh?? He's more a producer and a guest musician than a rock and roll star now, and it's ok: we accepted that. But stop complaining everyday, it's annoying everyone: if he can't stand for such things, just does like John Deacon: disappear and have all the cups of tea that he wants. I just hope he won't bother too much if in Benidorm I'm gonna go by him, asking for a pic or an autograph, after I put all my money in his music and I changed my summer holidays just to be in Spain to see he and Rog. Bah.Why do you do all that to see him if you're so pissed off with him and what he says and does? Brian has been standing in the public for 30 years and I think it's quite understandable that he gets annoyed sometimes. I think we're just not used to Brian talking this way because he's known for being "the nice guy" who's always gentle and kind and answers the letters his fans send him. But he's human, he gets annoyed by things and he has the right to say what he thinks and to complain about whatever he wants. We should rather be happy and appreciate the fact that Brian, although he's one of the big ones in music, still takes his time to communicate with his fans. There are enough celebrities out there who wouldn't bother to waste their precious time replying to fan-letters. |
deleted user 12.07.2004 04:37 |
uff... In *MY* opinion Brian is not making a service to his fans, complaining about personal facts on his site. Answering their email is the service. We will never see Mick Jagger or David Bowie complaining about F1 cars in Regent Street or taking so hard on some facts as Brian did. We all are humans and we all have our bad days... should we feel entitled to show them to people on the net? Yes we can, but we have then to accept comments, love it or hate it. Sonja, I'm glad to read those words from you, who just hate fights over internet... And I'm going to see them, once again, because I'm a real fan and they are my passion and I feel I can say my opinion as much as I want! They are my heroes but they (as every mortal person) can't do always right. And put my tongue into anyone's ass is something I never did in my life and I don't want to start right now... cheers |
Mr. Scully 12.07.2004 05:51 |
Brian's problem is that he speaks too much. If it wasn't for his soapbox, all of us would still think what a kind and quiet man he is. But since he complains about many things in the soapbox (and hardly ever accepts any criticism), he lost part of the huge respect that many people (me included) had for him. |
Sebastian 12.07.2004 06:21 |
As a person who disagrees with a lot of the stuff he's done last years - calling 'Queen' to Rog and himself, getting the credit for I Want It All... - I support him in this case though. It seems to me so annoying that celebrities have to live all that. Thousands of people know about his divorce, about the birth date of his children, about the schools he went to... and still he can't even go take a walk because people would be there asking for stuff or taking pics or asking questions. Most of which are so cliched by the way. So I understand how he should feel. Having had to sign autographs even in a plane, and everything... yes, fans put him where he is, but you've got to realise that the sentence applies for both tails and heads. Fans made him a celebrity, but also fans made him (and it also applies to every star) a "rude" celebrity once in a while, due to all of that. Others don't have websites to complain, they simply tell each fan they meet to fuck off; that's worse imo |
deleted user 12.07.2004 06:24 |
Sebastian wrote: Others don't have websites to complain, they simply tell each fan they meet to fuck off; that's worse imoGood and important point ! |
Richard Orchard 12.07.2004 06:44 |
the soapbox is de-mystifying Brian. He is proving to be fallable like everyone else. bummer. Sometimes it is good to keep a distance from heroes. |
Sonja 12.07.2004 07:12 |
<font color=#CC0000>hangman wrote: uff... Sonja, I'm glad to read those words from you, who just hate fights over internet... And I'm going to see them, once again, because I'm a real fan and they are my passion and I feel I can say my opinion as much as I want! They are my heroes but they (as every mortal person) can't do always right. And put my tongue into anyone's ass is something I never did in my life and I don't want to start right now... cheersLuca, I'm not fighting. This is not a fight, it's only a discussion where people state their opinions, like you did and like I did. And everyone's free to say whatever they think about whatever's annoying them. And that's all that Brian did in his soapbox. Is the racing car thing such a big deal? Who cares? There are people who enjoy it and there are people who don't. |
Daburcor? 12.07.2004 08:53 |
Richard Orchard wrote: the soapbox is de-mystifying Brian. He is proving to be fallable like everyone else. bummer. Sometimes it is good to keep a distance from heroes.Oh, Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarcasm... ;D |
deleted user 12.07.2004 08:59 |
Sonja, I guess I'd better shut up now.... just know that I'm disappointed about your thoughts (it may happen) and your act (i thought it's not gonna happen again?). anyway, besides this useless matter, I'm totally with Richard: he stated a wise truth... cheeers! |
Sonja 12.07.2004 09:07 |
<font color=#CC0000>hangman wrote: Sonja, I guess I'd better shut up now.... just know that I'm disappointed about your thoughts (it may happen) and your act (i thought it's not gonna happen again?). cheeers!Errr..what?? I'm just saying what I think about Brian's comments and the way he handles his popularity and his fans! I'm not offending you just because I don't agree with you. I don't agree with many of the comments in this topic, so what? Each one has their own opinion about it. Take it easy, Lu. |
Krizzy 12.07.2004 09:09 |
Sorry folks I have to stick up for Dr. May on this one. No matter how famous or infamous one person is, the media can be relentless. The UK seems to be worse than any other media (although I could be wrong). I have seen this sort of thing first hand having worked for several famous people in my younger years( & I'm not old), they would persue the famous actor I worked for, for several hours while he jogged around Central Park until he finally relented and gave them a few words and pictures. Fame is a two-edged sword but being famous should not give the media a RIGHT to be stalkers with Press passes, sorry. Brian May has a right to his privacy just like everyone else. Kriz ;o) |
deleted user 12.07.2004 09:16 |
Krizzy you're definitely right, but I think the point is another (at least for me): it's about Brian May complaining and spitting rage towards people and facts on a web page. Besides that, I totally agree with Brian: people can be so annoying, when they meet VIP. |
Mr. Scully 12.07.2004 10:00 |
"Besides that, I totally agree with Brian: people can be so annoying, when they meet VIP" Pretty much true. Just remember Modena last year. I was patiently standing there, waiting for Brian to come closer while the others simply jumped on him right after he stepped out of the limo, screaming "Brian, we love you" and trying to touch him. I couldn't believe my eyes. |
Krizzy 12.07.2004 10:06 |
You are so right Hangman! LOL! But Brian is sooo stressed these days...besides he handles stress a heck of lot differently then Roger Taylor. Roger seems to a lot of ppl to be the more reserved of the two especially with all that is going on within the Queen organization these days. Either that or he's on some powerful tranqulizers! LOL Kriz ;o) |
nil 12.07.2004 10:09 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Having just read his latest 'rant' on his soapbox, I find it unbeleivable that he can sometimes talk the way he does. Fair play, he sticks up for Wayne Rooney and Slates Ken Livingston, but to go on about autograph hunters and picture takers the way he does really annoys me. Who put themselves in that position in the first place??? He's always been one of the most recognised people in the world, and people arent gonna ignore him! Im sorry Brian, if you dont like it - lump it! We dont need to hear it! <<<<Has his ranting head on too.I second that babes! |
Richard Orchard 12.07.2004 11:21 |
i have had friends that have had quite a bit of contact with Brian, and i was never really jealous because i like keeping a distance. Heroes are only heroes from a far. |
Whatinthewhatthe? 12.07.2004 11:33 |
YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME I am sure you told him about the plastic surgery he needs, his overweight and his hair extension and how you pray for his marriage because of all these imperfections - just to prove your utmost regard. Too bad that John Deacon does not make himself such an easy target for your deep affection.Meow, meow, MEOWWWWW! |
the oppositionist 12.07.2004 17:28 |
totally agree with richard on this one. it was actually devistate me if i met any of them because i would be let down. we put them on such pedestals dont we? after all, they are just human |
deleted user 12.07.2004 18:01 |
Depends on what you mean with "meeting". I don't think you'll be in for a let-down or utter devastation if you'll just have a quick chat. So don't worry ;) |
Hank H. 12.07.2004 18:16 |
I understand his feelings but don't understand why he has to publish them the way he does, because it won't help, and he should know that after all these years. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 12.07.2004 19:47 |
Matti wrote: I would still ask him for his autograph and take a picture if possible if I ever saw/met him though. I'm sorry it makes him upset or whatever but I would probably kill myself if I didn't.Yup. Better to have an upset Brian than a dead you. I'm with you on that one. :) |
frejorobri 13.07.2004 03:04 |
Lisa J Goodrich wrote: To quote Freddie: "Oh, this is fun!..." I don't see many of Brian's stature (in the music industry) answering emails from fans on their own website. Brian is very rare -- he really does care what fans think. Even though he's a tad busy with musicals, DVDs and CD re-re-re-releases, he takes (makes!) time to talk and give his opinions. I think that's the person he is (and a caring Cancer at that). I have the utmost regard for him because he's answered many of my emails and even wrote me once asking about Nashville, which was out of the blue and very unexpected! Brian's a very normal human being, and a great person as well as a super performer (and astronomer!). We should all be thankful he's not like other celebrities that don't remember the fans who are responsible for their popularity -- talk about biting the hand that feeds them! I think Freddie would have been the same way, and maybe John too had he not virtually disappeared from view. Roger's much too busy and it's not really in his nature to be like Brian. I'm sure he does care about his fans but he has other fish to fry!I agree. I love reading Brian's Soapbox and leaving messages for him. My son also likes leaving him messages. I hope I have the honour someday of meeting him,that would be really cool;) |
frejorobri 13.07.2004 03:04 |
Lisa J Goodrich wrote: To quote Freddie: "Oh, this is fun!..." I don't see many of Brian's stature (in the music industry) answering emails from fans on their own website. Brian is very rare -- he really does care what fans think. Even though he's a tad busy with musicals, DVDs and CD re-re-re-releases, he takes (makes!) time to talk and give his opinions. I think that's the person he is (and a caring Cancer at that). I have the utmost regard for him because he's answered many of my emails and even wrote me once asking about Nashville, which was out of the blue and very unexpected! Brian's a very normal human being, and a great person as well as a super performer (and astronomer!). We should all be thankful he's not like other celebrities that don't remember the fans who are responsible for their popularity -- talk about biting the hand that feeds them! I think Freddie would have been the same way, and maybe John too had he not virtually disappeared from view. Roger's much too busy and it's not really in his nature to be like Brian. I'm sure he does care about his fans but he has other fish to fry!I agree. I love reading Brian's Soapbox and leaving messages for him. My son also likes leaving him messages. I hope I have the honour someday of meeting him,that would be really cool;) |
frejorobri 13.07.2004 03:05 |
Lisa J Goodrich wrote: To quote Freddie: "Oh, this is fun!..." I don't see many of Brian's stature (in the music industry) answering emails from fans on their own website. Brian is very rare -- he really does care what fans think. Even though he's a tad busy with musicals, DVDs and CD re-re-re-releases, he takes (makes!) time to talk and give his opinions. I think that's the person he is (and a caring Cancer at that). I have the utmost regard for him because he's answered many of my emails and even wrote me once asking about Nashville, which was out of the blue and very unexpected! Brian's a very normal human being, and a great person as well as a super performer (and astronomer!). We should all be thankful he's not like other celebrities that don't remember the fans who are responsible for their popularity -- talk about biting the hand that feeds them! I think Freddie would have been the same way, and maybe John too had he not virtually disappeared from view. Roger's much too busy and it's not really in his nature to be like Brian. I'm sure he does care about his fans but he has other fish to fry!I agree. I love reading Brian's Soapbox and leaving messages for him. My son also likes leaving him messages. I hope I have the honour someday of meeting him,that would be really cool;) |
Bitchy_Gal 13.07.2004 06:34 |
Hey folks - Brian is REALLY another man in private. I have a contact with him - believe me - it's his general position in SoapBox - to rant, to clobber, and it just depends on in what mood he writes his comment. In fact, this discussion is ... senseless ... Too much attention to USUAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR !!! It seems most of you still can't take him as a human - he's something very far and unreachable .. And with his rants he just tries to point that he's a man, with his problems and pleasures, I don't know why his words seem so strange for you - he tries to be closer to fans, in many ways, tries to make people know not only his better sides, but the worse sides too ... I think that it's natural to hate someone always chasing you, giving you no opportunity for a little rest, without knowing you're a star and must be always ready to give an autograph ... He's a human. Very talented and fortunate, hard-working, besides he's rather communicative, so I hope it's not the case to judge him for that. Try to take him as a man. This helped me to become his friend some time ago. Best cheerz. |
deleted user 13.07.2004 08:09 |
Jen? |
Sebastian 13.07.2004 08:19 |
I don't think he knows most of you are annoyed by his rants and stuff. How many have had the balls to write him and tell him that? I'd like to know... |
deleted user 13.07.2004 08:26 |
I don't need to have the balls to write him personally as I know Brian May read QZ or they at least report to him what it's written here... That doesn't change my idea about him: he's a hero to me but I don't like his ranting on the soap box. Again: am I entitled to give my opinion? He gives his own opinions about everyone and everything and I'm sure he can accept his fan's ones... more than what fans doing between themsevlves. cheers. |
Oberon 13.07.2004 08:53 |
Mmm, interesting to see everyone's reactions. Personally, I think there's far too much intrusion into celebs lives. Even celebs like Posh and Becks (Posh Spice and England footballer David Beckham for the non-UK people out there) don't deserve the intrusion, even though they use the media to their advantage. Their "job" is to be celebraties, but I still don't think that that gives the right to the media, or fans, or hound them when they're not on "official" engagements. I think the media especially should have rules enforced to prevent them doing this. Now, as for this particular "rant" about the day the Formula 1 cars were in London, it was in response to a letter/email from a fan, who said he'd taken a photo but not approached Brian. His response was that - a response to the fan's letter. Now, Brian didn't have to put it on his soapbox, but he obviously feels it's worth doing to highlight his feelings. Some fans like to hear these thoughts, and some obviously don't. I agree with Richard's comment that it may be best not to get so close to our hero's thoughts, but I also quite like reading this stuff. I can understand his feelings about this stuff. A friend of mine was in South Africa for the 46664 concert and was given tickets and backstage pass and also spent about an hour in the hotel bar talking to Brian. He said he was a nice guy, that they talked about a lot of stuff, not really as a fan/hero, just as two "equals" so to speak. So on the whole, I understand his point of view, and I don't think any the worse or better for him putting his thoughts down in his soapbox. |
Adam Baboolal 13.07.2004 09:33 |
Personally, I don't just take Brian as that bloke in Queen who plays a mean guitar. I take him as a human being as well. It really is true that some fans don't want to see people like Brian beyond their profession. If that's the case, why read the soapbox? All I can say is that if you don't like to read about his rants, stay clear of the soapbox and letters part of his site! Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up. Peace, Adam. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 13.07.2004 10:50 |
Lil' Lady Chaz wrote:Babes???? * BlushesBrian_Mays_Wig wrote: Having just read his latest 'rant' on his soapbox, I find it unbeleivable that he can sometimes talk the way he does. Fair play, he sticks up for Wayne Rooney and Slates Ken Livingston, but to go on about autograph hunters and picture takers the way he does really annoys me. Who put themselves in that position in the first place??? He's always been one of the most recognised people in the world, and people arent gonna ignore him! Im sorry Brian, if you dont like it - lump it! We dont need to hear it! <<<<Has his ranting head on too.I second that babes! |
Brian_Mays_Wig 13.07.2004 10:54 |
I never really expected this sort of reaction. I was reading the soapbox while I was slightly pissed off myself. Maybe the website should come with a warning... *DO NOT ENTER IF YOURE SLIGHTLY PISSED OF OR ANGRY IN ANY WAY* I know what a great bloke Brian is, He is the patron of my mate's sons' charity 'The Conor Ruscoe Memorial Fund', its on Brians website. My mate and his wife have regular contact with Brian and they tell me first hand what a great bloke Brian is, something Ive known for years with being a huge Queen fan. But sometimes I think he uses his soapbox for a few little things he should really keep to himself. |
Whatinthewhatthe? 13.07.2004 11:19 |
Maybe one can sum it up in this way: the older one gets, the more one speaks his/her mind. I read in many magazines that with age comes the privilege of not acting reserved as in your younger years and just letting it all out instead of keeping it in. And remember, people are much more adept at laying all of their cards on the table now than, say, 20 or 30 years ago. Things are much more open and accepted. Think how "coming out" was not done then! That happened after Freddie died, but if he were still with us he probably wouldn't do that due to his upbringing. If his dad and mum were gone it might have been a possibility but Freddie, being the private person he was, would have kept it private, like he kept his illness almost to the end of his short life. And Freddie probably would have been a "talker" like Brian as well!! |
Bitchy_Gal 13.07.2004 12:38 |
<font color=#CC0000>hangman wrote: Jen?No darling, NOT Jen .. This lady wouldn't have taken such kind of nick I think .... |
Bitchy_Gal 13.07.2004 12:49 |
But sometimes I think he uses his soapbox for a few little things he should really keep to himself.Then why are the "online diaries" like "LiveJournal.com" and alike so popular nowadays? Yes, it's modern to let your thoughts out .. And people like it. Why can't Brian like it too? Is he so different? Doesn't he have the same privelege as we do? And in fact - what he writes is a very small part of what he thinks .. He could write more .. But he doesn't. As we all can see - sometimes people write much much more offensive or private or anything else things in their online-diaries ... And nobody says "he should really keep to himself". I think a little more respect and understanding to Bri would be good and useful. Best luck. |
the oppositionist 13.07.2004 17:12 |
If she had been jen shed have gone off the wall at anybody saying anything negative about brian! lol |
Sebastian 13.07.2004 18:55 |
While I'm not annoyed by his rants, I'm getting tired of all those "my father/grandfather/friend/cousin/aunt/pet... died, and your music made me get through this", and Brian's "I'm so moved" answers |
Adam Baboolal 13.07.2004 18:59 |
Seb, are you actually complaining about the fans? What the..? |
the oppositionist 13.07.2004 20:04 |
i agree adam and i dislike the ones that always start- "ive been a fan for six billion years, my children are fans, we have all your albums, we love you, can we marry you?" i just cringe. they arent asking for anything except that brian acknowledge them, which seems so desperate, even for a hardcore fan. all you get is brian saying 'thanks, im flattered'. i dont think it adds any value to the site for the fans really- and where is the constructive commentary of real fans- the ones who love the music and arent afraid to say something other than complimentary? |
Bitchy_Gal 14.07.2004 05:04 |
Sebastian wrote: While I'm not annoyed by his rants, I'm getting tired of all those "my father/grandfather/friend/cousin/aunt/pet... died, and your music made me get through this", and Brian's "I'm so moved" answersAnd what should he answer ?? Sometimes music REALLY helps to get through this - and a person simply says "thank you" to the creator ... What's so strange ??? I'm a musician too - and sometimes people say "thank you" for my music - for helping to get rid of bad mood or something like that ... I also don't know what else to say but "I'm moved .." |
teddybear 14.07.2004 19:15 |
Well I was surprised to see Brian getting cross again about the autographs and such - and can appreciate the frustration of that at times - but there is a good Aussie saying "its when they DONT want to take your photo and get your autograph that you are in real trouble" - as that means you are a washed up 'has-been". So I think it is great Brian is still so popular, as he is able to put this fame and weight behind so many worthy projects. |
Adam Baboolal 14.07.2004 19:17 |
"but there is a good Aussie saying 'its when they DONT want to take your photo and get your autograph that you are in real trouble" - as that means you are a washed up 'has-been.'" Hmm...I actually think Brian will LOVE that day!! |
Bitchy_Gal 15.07.2004 05:11 |
In fact - I think no ... Everybody can be in a ranting mood sometimes .. I truly believe he's not so unhappy being a certain Brian May ... |