| Banquo 06.07.2004 15:49 |
Next Wednesday the 14th of July Channel 5 here in the UK will screen an hour long documentary on Freddie's varied love-life. No doubt it will be a 'talking heads' show with various z-list celebs and Kate Thornton and most probably Jim Hutton (needs the money) talking about Freddie's sordid gay, straight and bisexual affairs. Painting Freddie as a sexual deviant shagging rent-boys in Brazil, wearing leather, leaving sod all to his 'husband' Jim and the obligitory dwarfs with cocaine story. Should be great! Can't wait. |
| pma 06.07.2004 15:59 |
Freddie's Loves (Documentary) Time - 21:00 - 22:00 (1 hour long) When - Wednesday 14th July on five Documentary chronicling the complicated lovelife of the late Queen singer Freddie Mercury. Lovers and friends offer a glimpse into Freddie's decadent life, with tales from legendary tours and parties. (Subtitles, Stereo) taken from link Sounds interesting. |
| Lisser 06.07.2004 16:10 |
Pete are you gonna watch it/record it?? |
| Mayboy 06.07.2004 16:53 |
Typical thats the weeks im going on holiday :( Definately tape it someone |
| SallyJ. 06.07.2004 17:03 |
Hmm...I am not sure what to think of it. It seems all wrong to have people talk about Freddie's personal and love -life on tv. I don't really know if I would want to watch it to be honest, although I probably would, in the end. But with mixed feelings. |
| Josuè 06.07.2004 17:24 |
Yes well, I understand you Sally. But anyway it maybe interesting anyway. If anyone can record it... The worst thing to me is to try to understand the fast talking of Huton, God, I can't understand anything from him! |
| Flashman 06.07.2004 18:08 |
Why can't they put 'Live At Milton Keynes' on again, for fuck's sake, instead of this sordid documentary on turd burglary? Turns my stomach, that kind of talk. Pah, I'll end up watching it, though. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.07.2004 18:15 |
Well, considering that the "When Kenny Met Freddie" documentary was pretty interesting, I'll watch it. Mind you, it is channel 5, so I shouldn't really compare it with Channel4. But still, even Channel4 can be as bad... What ever happened to Channel4? Used to be much better than it is now. EDIT: I'll record it onto the computer. Just remind me! Peace, Adam. |
| rhapsody__87 06.07.2004 19:16 |
Ew. Seriously is this program necessary? Not that I'll see it because I'm over here in the US, but still. |
| SergeantPepperDG 06.07.2004 19:22 |
Why are all these shows on in the UK? NO FAIR!!! |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 06.07.2004 19:27 |
Seems very invasive, not something that Freddie would've wanted. But then again, I can't watch it anyway. |
| Whatinthewhatthe? 06.07.2004 19:46 |
I would watch it out of curiousity but that's it. Why they waited 13 years for a "come out/tell all" show is degrading to Freddie because he's not here to defend himself. Keep in mind Freddie fought hard to keep his private life private when he was still amongst the living. His so-called "friends and lovers" should follow suit to honour his memory! Sadly, money talks... |
| frejorobri 07.07.2004 06:07 |
I agree. Freddie would not have wanted people to know these things. It's disrespectful to his memory. |
| KevMull 07.07.2004 12:10 |
"Why are all these shows on in the UK? NO FAIR!!! " There's always ebay! I'll probably DVD it if anyone's interested. |
| Krizzy 07.07.2004 13:05 |
Sounds like a real Brit media trashing but still I am curious to see what thy have to say, if anyone of you UK folks tapes it on PAL tape I will pay for it to be shipped to me: Please email me at lisey65@yahoo.com and let's negotiate. I am also willing to dub it for anyone here in the States for a small shipping fee. Let me know! Love, Kriz ;o) |
| pma 07.07.2004 13:10 |
Lisser wrote: Pete are you gonna watch it/record it??Well, can't see UK channels in Finland, so I guess no. |
| agneepath! 11994 07.07.2004 18:02 |
for those who don't know about Brit T.V. Channel 5 was infamous for showing soft core porno films - its recently tried to improve its image.... the new Freddie Documentary appears to a backward step. |
| Flashman 07.07.2004 18:06 |
And what, pray, is precisely your problem with soft core porn films? Can't see the harm in it, myself. |
| agneepath! 11994 07.07.2004 18:11 |
apologies Flashman... i was trying to be objective when describing "Five" as its now known. I enjoyed Channel 5 in the early days - they used to show my fav. TV programme, the Incredible Hulk (although it was 9.30 a.m.) |
| Adam Baboolal 07.07.2004 19:12 |
So what does that mean for Channel4, Ag? They had something equally stirring. But of course, we don't have a clue what it's going to be, really. Peace, Adam. |
| Fenderek 08.07.2004 07:36 |
SHIT, SHIT, SHIT! I just went on holiday to Poland, going back July 17th... Shit, shit, shit!!! |
| Banquo 08.07.2004 12:53 |
I saw a trailer last night for it and they have interviews with David Wigg and Phoebe so hopefully it won't be too much of an expose. |
| queenrocks! 10902 08.07.2004 13:15 |
I didn't know Wayne Sleep was one of Freddie's lovers! |
| Whatinthewhatthe? 10.07.2004 17:35 |
Oh, God -- David Wigg and Peter Freestone are a part of this "special"? Seems really out of character for them, though money can talk louder than words... |
| agneepath! 11994 10.07.2004 19:00 |
we are pre-judging this documentary. Perhaps it will be better than we expect... |
| agneepath! 11994 11.07.2004 12:23 |
i was listening to Radio 5 late on saturday night where they mentioned this programme. I was drifting to sleep as i listened but they then they switched to interviewing a guy called Broadly who is a producer. I assumed he produced the programme. He described himself as a genuine fan (he also met Freddie) and he ridiculed comparisons between Freddie and robbie, describing the 70s as Queen's golden era. So, if everything i recall is true and not me imagining it, perhaps the programme will not be as crass as everyone thinks. |
| freddiefreddie 12.07.2004 06:53 |
This is from the Times: "From his girlfriend Mary Austin, who remained a member of Mercury's inner circle for 23 years, to the one-night stands who became close friends, the loyalty the star inspired is both remarkable and touching. Some might say that kissing and telling -even 13 years after his death -is a dubious sign of loyalty, but the reminiscences on display here are full of fondness and affection. Most poignant of all, perhaps, is the testimony of Jim Hutton, Mercury's final lover and gardener at his "functioning royal residence" in Kensington. "I saw him perform at Live Aid. I was just dazed. It's basically me saying 'That's my man there'." The programme also offers a vivid snapshot of pre-Aids hedonism and 1970s clubbing, from the popularity of the moustache to the names of the most popular bars. There is also a new biographical interpretation of Bohemian Rhapsody and enough footage of fandangos, feathers and Freddie to keep the committed Queen fan happy. As biographical portraits go, it is illuminating and affectionate, thunderbolts, lightning and all." |
| Sonja 12.07.2004 07:19 |
Great that things like that are never shown on German TV. They prefer to show "Christina Aguilera" specials and "Britney's Love Affairs" which is, of course so very important to know about!!! |
| Penetration_Guru 12.07.2004 08:28 |
"Biographical Interpretation of Bohemian Rhapsody" anyone else get a sinking feeling when they read that? I won't be watching, just because it has nothing to do with the music. |
| nil 12.07.2004 10:13 |
I gotta get my mate to tape it, my mother will have nothing on in this house about homosexuals, tghen I said, *flutter eyes* 'But Mummy maybe its just about Mary Austin' but that didnt work, on wed shes even going to get my tv out of my room so i dont watch it LOL, ah Mummy's don't you love 'em? |
| freddiefreddie 12.07.2004 12:36 |
Freddie's Loves 21.00-22.00 As frontman of Queen, Freddie Mercury was one of the most famous men on the planet, but he kept his love life a private affair. Now for the first time, the loves of Freddie's life speak out about the time they spent with the bombastic rocker, and through the eyes of his close friends, we get a glimpse of what Freddie was like off-stage. Faroukh Bulsara moved to London in 1964 from Zanzibar in Africa, and soon settled into swinging London, changing his name to the more exotic Freddie Mercury. He had girlfriends at college and as his music career took off, he was with shy blonde Mary Austin. "I believe he was in love with Mary," testifies music photographer Mick Rock. "The only problem with her was that she was a girl." Freddie came to terms with his homosexuality as Queen became famous, and even made a pass at the band's promotion manager, Eric Hall. "He told me 'Killer Queen' was about me," chuckles Eric. Freddie embarked on his first proper relationship with a man in 1975, the record company PA David Minns. "He pursued me," says Minns. "He was obsessive about people, but he was very sweet." Freddie was forced to break the news of his bisexuality to Mary, who replied that she thought he was gay anyway. Her honesty and blessing paved the way for a lifelong friendship between the two. After the success of their hit 'Bohemian Rhapsody', Queen were headline news. With the cross-dressing, the highly suggestive name and the camp posturing, the tabloids began to question Freddie's sexuality. He kept them all guessing by turning up to functions with both David and Mary. But as Freddie realised that his fame could bring him any man he wanted, David's days as his boyfriend were numbered. Freddie soon fell for trainee chef Joe Fanelli in 1978, and embarked upon a one-year relationship with him. Like he did with most of his partners, Freddie remained close friends with Joe after their split, and even appointed him as his personal chef. As Queen's success grew and grew, so did Mercury's appetite for wild parties and gay men. Wayne Sleep was a regular party accomplice of Freddie's in late 70s London. "We all were given girls' names," he says. "I was Bridget the midget." As the 80s loomed, Freddie's leotards and long hair were soon replaced by leathers and a moustache, and Queen's videos went from suggestive to explicit. Freddie moved to New York, where he heartily embraced the vibrant gay scene. He had a brief fling with a biker barman called Vince, and in the Anvil bar Freddie took barman Thor Arnold back to his hotel room. "It was about six in the morning," remembers Thor. "We negotiated, and decided to go back. But we had been partying hard all night, and it was a long time before Viagra." Freddie adopted Thor and his friends as chief sidekicks in New York, and together they would scour the clubs for prey. But the AIDS epidemic was beginning to take effect in the early 80s, and Thor and his friends paid little heed. "It made some people party harder, and made some withdraw from the scene," he says. "We thought it was caused by poppers at the time, we really did." Freddie left the New York scene behind him in 1983, still searching for the love of his life. He had an intense relationship with German actress Barbara Valentin in Munich, and also a fling with a butch Austrian restaurateur. On a return to England in 1985, Freddie finally met the man he would be with until his death, Jim Hutton, who was surreptitiously made Freddie's live-in gardener. He looked like Burt Reynolds, thereby fitting Freddie's criteria to a tee! Freddie's close friend and PA Peter Freestone thinks that Freddie's colossal performance at Live Aid that year was due to the love he felt for Jim. "He looked huge on stage," says Peter. "Part of that was from Jim's emotional input." Freddie enjoyed some of th |
| FreddiesGhettoTrench 12.07.2004 16:44 |
I... would not watch that. I would... rather not know... However it would be nice to see what Jim & Mary actually sound and act like, since I'm basing characters on them and all... But other than that, no! And they're probably on something anyway... |
| Richard Orchard 13.07.2004 08:48 |
can someone write a review to post in the news when they have seen it. |
| Adam Baboolal 13.07.2004 10:32 |
I'll give it a go Richard. But maybe someone else will beat me to it. We'll see... Peace, Adam. |
| Adam Baboolal 13.07.2004 19:14 |
I saw a clip from the show and it looks alright. I'm sure it's not for everyone. Peace, Adam. |
| the oppositionist 14.07.2004 17:40 |
wow, i think everyone is very harsh about these things on freddie. i dont see pheobe selling out over freddie, come on, he was a really close mate!!! i dont think the money comes first to these guys, i think out of loyalty for freddie they feel they have to tell people what he was really like- so many people have no idea really. the show was lovely- mary wasnt in it (wow, shocking) it really was just his friends. i dont think freddie would have been as bothered about this one, except about his dick size, that was erm flattering but too personal!!! |
| Bob The Shrek 14.07.2004 17:47 |
Yet again Mary Austin kept quiet - to me, proving she was his best friend. |
| Adam Baboolal 14.07.2004 18:23 |
The thing I've found with Mary A is that, she never says anything more than what was quoted in the programme. Always the same thing. So, I'm actually glad, because she didn't know a lot about the side that was being described in the show. Peace, Adam. |
| queen-mad 4729 14.07.2004 18:58 |
Does anyone have a copy of this to swap? I left the VCR to record, which it did, but just not with sound. So if anyone is willing to trade me a copy let me know. |
| Wreckage 14.07.2004 19:05 |
I admit, with more than a small sense of shame, that I sat through the whole thing. Does anyone else think that Trip Khalaf was making up the whole 'giant cock and balls flying accross Wembley' idea that Freddie allegedly floated to the rest of the band (ditto Eric Hall's claim that Killer Queen was written about him?) |
| deleted user 14.07.2004 19:11 |
That would've been a fantastic idea though (the one with the knob). I'm serious. |
| teddybear 14.07.2004 19:29 |
Who said that Phoebe would not do it for money? Ohhhhh - I wonder who wrote the book I have here by "Peter Freestone" then ??? And is there not some sort of stage play he done??? *cough cough* |
| Whatinthewhatthe? 14.07.2004 22:08 |
I would love to find out what Mary Austin thought about the special...and if she bothered to view it? |
| Flashman 15.07.2004 02:53 |
Quite enjoyed Trip Khalaf's little joke on meeting Freddie's new acquaintance the morning after the night before:- "Hi, I'm Thor." "I'll bet you are!" All in all, though - not really my cup of tea. Summed it up when they had a 'Maroon 5' song playing in the background. I mean, for Flashy's sake, hundreds of Queen tracks to choose and we get some fuckin' Yankee shit. Makes me sick. |
| Adam Baboolal 15.07.2004 05:59 |
So, is no-one going to be offering a high quality video of part 2 in the hub? I'd love to get an Mpeg2 file. I just feel a bit letdown that I messed up the second part cause I was gonna burn the entire programme to dvd. Kinda messes the whole idea up. I could've shared the entire dvd as an ISO too... Peace, Adam. |
| pma 15.07.2004 06:25 |
Could anyone be generous enough to share this documentary via BiTtorrent? |
| Clare McGann 15.07.2004 06:40 |
What a load of crapola! (thats all I have to say!) |