| Richard Orchard 16.06.2004 01:49 |
fantastic! |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 16.06.2004 02:44 |
I like it. It's an interesting approach, one that I think works. Good job. I love how there's a bit of Tear It Up in there, too. |
| Richard Orchard 16.06.2004 03:43 |
better than some of the official Rock You's that have been released lately. At least this sounds fresh. |
| Richard Orchard 16.06.2004 03:44 |
In the musical, there was (is) a joke about "unchained melody" being released every two years by some homogenised pop singer. Well... |
| Adam Baboolal 16.06.2004 14:14 |
Yikes. Fresh?? It sounds like a bad cover from the 80's! Yuck, the style blows. Sorry, but I think this is worse than Rick's Ruined mix. At least it sounds decent, sonically. Peace, Adam. |
| Daburcor? 16.06.2004 14:28 |
It does sound very 80's. But It's too not bad. It's WAY better than most versions of the song. The guitar's pretty cool. :P P.S. How come it cuts off at the end before the finish? |
| sir vinou 16.06.2004 14:39 |
It really sounds very 80's cos it was recorded in 84 with cubase on my old Atari !!! ... and yes the guitar sounds good cos the guitarist who played on this track is a REALLY GOOD ONE... thanx to Richard |
| Daburcor? 16.06.2004 14:50 |
Either way, It's pretty cool. :P |
| inu-liger 16.06.2004 17:28 |
This is the most interesting version I have heard since Queen and Five's version from 4 years ago (this July) |
| inu-liger 16.06.2004 17:30 |
"P.S. How come it cuts off at the end before the finish?Yeah, I'm wondering that too |
| YourValentine 16.06.2004 19:39 |
It's just great. |
| Wilki Amieva 16.06.2004 22:01 |
I liked it pretty much. I also liked the SOUND of it. Good work, Vinou. ...If I ever get a chance to fullfil my dream of producing an album of QUEEN covers by QUEEN fans from all over the world - something that was attempted at least twice but never happened. At least not in the way I want to do it, I mean with real interaction between the people involved. |
| Q-Nick 17.06.2004 06:17 |
Richard Orchard wrote: In the musical, there was (is) a joke about "unchained melody" being released every two years by some homogenised pop singer. Well...Correct, but it was cut a long time ago. Wonder why...... |
| Hitman 17.06.2004 13:16 |
Eh eh eh maybe beacause We Will Rock YOu is released every week!!!! I like this we will rock you Vinou you're talented, you know how to arrange songs! a little bit of 80' sound for us! |
| inu-liger 17.06.2004 13:43 |
"...If I ever get a chance to fullfil my dream of producing an album of QUEEN covers by QUEEN fans from all over the world - something that was attempted at least twice but never happened. At least not in the way I want to do it, I mean with real interaction between the people involved." You know what, Wilki? I was thinking along the same lines as what you were saying, basically! It would be nice too, cos I would love to collaborate with Adam Baboolal and Bob Wegner (Guitar Hero). I can play drums, maybe a little bass, so why not get Adam singing and Bob playing guitar as well...? Of course, a whole project like this would cost somewhere in the (barely) few hundreds (CDN dollar wise), because the way I would do it is record my parts (drums, bass, vocals), and send it on CD or DVD-R to Adam (as seperate "multitracked" PCM wave files), have him record his parts, send it to Bob, and have him do his part(s), and send it back to me for the final mixdown in stereo and in surround sound, as well as post-production. It would be cheaper for those of us who either already are close knit with friends that play instruments, but for me it would be expensive. But if we were to start, say this summer, I imagine that we could have recordings done by early next year, and by the time I'm done mixing and putting the songs together, there would be a release set for one year from now (June/July 2005). But of course, to avoid legal royalty complications/issues, I would imagine we could get by by donating all proceeds (less media costs) to the 46664 ("4 double 6 6 4" :) ) campaign. I think we could raise a lot of money that way, especially if our covers are really worth the money being spent on the CD / DVD-A discs :) Whaddaya guys think? |
| inu-liger 17.06.2004 13:57 |
Oh, also I wish to note that this October I will be recording "No-One But You" for QZ in both English and in Spanish ("Solo Por Ti"), with some friends. I do need help though: Where can I get piano-bass-guitar chords/tablets? I need good website references for those three pieces I need |
| Wilki Amieva 18.06.2004 10:07 |
Yes, that is basically my dream. Despite of the little musical input I can offer, I surely can manage to mix and/or master the tracks here on a professional digital studio. I do not care too much for the files being single or multitrack nor for their formats since I use most of them. The performers should agree on the recording being digital and maybe on its resolution, I mean both its sampling rate and bit depth (44/16, 48/16, 96/24, 192/32, etc). Yes, we have talented people here, but I reckon it is still a difficult task. We did have talented people on the NO TIME FOR LOSERS project, which, despite BreakFree's great efforts, never saw the light... A final note: Obviously - and this is the #1 rule - all profits should go to charity (I guess to any QUEEN-related cause: the 46664 campaing, the MPT, the BBMDA, etc). |
| Wilki Amieva 18.06.2004 10:17 |
I do have the sheet music of the QUEEN version of No-One But You. I guess you will find the cast version on the musical book on sale at QUEENOnLine. I do not have it at the moment. |
| The Fairy King 18.06.2004 11:45 |
it really sucks! |
| Adam Baboolal 18.06.2004 12:58 |
It's a nice idea. I've always seen these sites that send recordings to each other to get certain instruments recorded, etc. But I've never tried. What songs? But can I ask why I wouldn't be mixing the results? Remember, it's what I do for a living. I'm not familiar with your work, so post something and we'll decide, together. A proof of concept is needed. And I think surround is out of the question. Too much for so little. Maybe go with 24-bit/96kHz. It depends on our systems. Compatibility and all that. Peace, Adam. |
| inu-liger 18.06.2004 14:57 |
We should only record at max 96/24, because unless someone has access to MLP Lossless DVD-Audio mastering software, the most we can go on a DVD-Video audio disc is 96/24 PCM, 48/24 DTS / Dolby Digital 5.1. I do have a basic DVD authoring program, TMPGEnc DVD Author, but it does not support DTS. And my cracked DTS encoder only does DTS 718kbps, as it does not properly work on the 1.536Mbps coding. My Dolby Digital encoder, also cracked, works fine though but I would rather prefer high quality DTS software simply for audio quality. Will tell you guys what: When I get back from my vacation in late August, I will post details for the plans for a Queen covers CD (which of course like I said will raise funds towards 46664 AIDS Foundation) and how it will be done. I will work over these plans when I am in Ontario next month. |
| Adam Baboolal 18.06.2004 15:51 |
Sounds like a plan. Maybe we should select some songs to try before then. How many? Maybe 3-4? Btw, I'd still record 24/96 because the final result will sound better. I remember when I made the change and it was v.pleasant. Only 2 months ago. Ahhh... Let's forget the whole dvd thing. Keep things basic. Basic recordings. But we'll have to figure out what systems to use. I use my multi-track and then send to CubaseSX to mix. I just find that the most flexible. What do you all use? Maybe for compatibility, I could put together a CEPro mix. I recently got Audition 1.5, which is basically CEPro in Adobe's house! It's really good for editing. Peace, Adam. |
| Wilki Amieva 18.06.2004 15:56 |
Dear Adam, I used to work in a recording studio not SO long ago - I am into digital image processing now. I am not familiar with your work either, although I read your comments regularly on this board and I have ever found them very clever. I have one strong reason, nonetheless, for choosing myself over you, that reason being that I was talking about MY dream after all, and I do not feel myself acquainted with you in such a manner as to include you in my dreams. Yet it was my dream, and just that. In real life, be my guest. I do not have time to spend in such businesses for the moment. |
| Hitman 18.06.2004 17:11 |
great ideas.if i had much more free time in my days i would collaborate, if it could help :) |
| Adam Baboolal 18.06.2004 17:34 |
Rightiho, Wilki. I'll leave it to you. We can all share the dream, hopefully, eh? I think it's cool to get together a few folk from the board for some music. I think we could come up with something really strong. I wait with baited breath. :) Peace, Adam. |
| NoOneButMe 19.06.2004 19:17 |
Hi everybody !!! It seems to me as an extraordinary project for us, Queen fans that can make some music of our heroes and also make a kind of force to help and get some funds to 46664, I think it is great. One of my dreams has been to record an entire CD covering Queen songs, now with this project we can all together work in something special with some tracks that everyone in here wants to help or support in anyway they can do. We should try this, but working as an entire global team and giving the credit to whom he or she deserves, but thinking that our goal is to do something out of this world. If there are no more new Queen songs, then maybe we can record some Queen songs for us, real Queen fans. It's the choice of everybody in QZ, but count me in!!!! Rafael. |
| NoOneButMe 19.06.2004 19:24 |
And, by the way, I have some scores of the music, they are ready to use if you need them. Can anybody share by the time the No One But You scores? And Inu Yasha, why do you want to record Solo Por Ti in spanish??? :) |
| Janet 19.06.2004 20:37 |
Love this version--just great! |
| Mr Coolest Cat 20.06.2004 09:45 |
Words fail me, another sack of shit, why do people like this bother, surely they must know they are crap. |
| Maz 20.06.2004 10:03 |
Wow, great job keeping the criticism constructive, Harv. Why people bother, indeed. I liked it. It does sound awfully 80's-ish, but Vinou gave a decent reason why that is the case. I do like the added Tear It Up bit; makes a song that can be very routine a little more interesting. |
| inu-liger 21.06.2004 15:28 |
And Inu Yasha, why do you want to record Solo Por Ti in spanish???Just to do something for a possible CD single...;) And for tracks on this CD (which I'm thinking of calling "The Road To The Stage Of Champions"), I'd like for us as a group to attempt some of the usual songs and some of the less usual songs, i.e.: I Can't Live With You (Rocks Version) My Life Has Been Saved (remixed from Adam's version with more powerful (and real) drums, perhaps) You Don't Fool Me Rock In Rio Blues Invincible Hope (I don't have this though, so I'm not sure - if anyone who already has this burnt on CD, can burn this on CD for me, please let me know) No-One But You We Will Rock You We Are The Champions (Robbie version w/ new guitar solo) ...and others. Any other ideas? I'm looking to do more obscure but good Queen material rather than the "cliches" (commonly known songs) |
| inu-liger 21.06.2004 15:33 |
Sounds like a plan. Maybe we should select some songs to try before then. How many? Maybe 3-4?2-3 should be good. I myself won't be likely able to record complete songs until October, although I may be able to start *something* when I am in Ontario next month (As always, my drumsticks will be with me when I am gone on vacation, and I will have a computer to work with as well as a microphone, so you never know) Hey Adam, if you wouldn't mind doing me a favour and just put a little bit of something together for me to work on, would you be able to start on recording a couple of Queen tracks for me to work on the rest of when I get back from Ontario? Or if not, can you send me some multitracks for some of your already-recorded Queen works so I can work on re-mixing it? (By remixing, I mean slightly changing or adding some parts, and then mixing it for 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS) Either way, please let me know :) Oh! Also, does anyone know of any good DVD Authoring/Mastering software I can use to...?: -input several audio channels -use DTS as an optional channel -use 96/24 PCM (if possible) |
| inu-liger 21.06.2004 16:12 |
Also, does anyone know any websites where I can download a DTS encoder that will encode at 1.536Mbps (48kHz), aside from Minnetonka's site? Google searches don't seem to work for me :( The DTS encoder I have only goes at 718kbps :( |
| Adam Baboolal 22.06.2004 09:06 |
I am currently remixing MLHBS and it'll be getting real drums from my brother. Possibly some piano from my other brother. I'll also be redoing most of the guitar stuff, so it'll be quite different. Btw, Inu, who sings/plays what in this plan? And no, I won't be offering tracks for DD5.1 etc. Like I said, it's not something I want to do. As for possible software to use, I've begun using VegasVideo5 for music as well. It's very effective, actually. And maybe you'd like Wavelab5 for its mastering abilities. Ah, maybe it's not. But it's still worth knowing about. As for giving stuff to work on... I'm actually working on a big dvd project right now, so I'm very busy. Music is secondary right now. Peace, Adam. |
| inu-liger 22.06.2004 14:04 |
Btw, Inu, who sings/plays what in this plan?My idea is that, if it were to be a one-band situation instead of multiple artists like there is in Stage of Champions, I would be definitely doing drums and some vocals, you can do some vocals and guitar, and Guitar Hero, of course, can do a lot of the guitar parts. I might play bass as well, but I'd need tabs (can't read chords or notes unfortunately), but then I'd rather have a "professional" bass player off of this board to do the bass parts, and I don't know who can play bass here. If it's a multiple artist - slash - collaborative thing here, then it's less of a problem. But as for someone to do the mixing, I wouldn't mind if people mixed their own stuff, as long as I end up with multitracks on CD/DVD in WAV format so that I can make stereo and surround sound mixes, and make any necessary last-minute post-production mixing if needed. What I need though is, again, a DTS encoder that will encode at high DVD standard. Dolby is no problem, in effect, but I prefer DTS to Dolby. (But hey Adam, if you want me to send you a demo DVD of surround sound mixes, feel free to ask) |
| inu-liger 22.06.2004 14:29 |
who plays what in this plan?Oh, I kinda missed the "plays what" part of the question! >D My part consists of several things. For one, I will be managing and over-seeing the whole project, which again may be called (the CD itself) "The Road To The Stage Of Champions". And I will make sure QueenOnline doesn't get involved - I want it to be a QZ thing. What is recorded, it's not entirely up to me, although I will make suggestions and requests of course. I will, however, ask that all songs be sent to me (multitracked over CD-R's or DVD-R's in WAV format for Windows (XP)) so that I can listen to them, and make any necessary changes, mixes, or edits, e.g. changes to make the songs fit on CD. (This is why I need the songs in several multitracked wave files, as well as a stereo master, so that if I need to change something, that I don't end up changing more than I want to) I may also remix the songs for 5.1, depending if I can get the software I want/need. And once the songs are all put together, I will make a CD-R master, and once I find a local CD pressing plant (that also does labels) I will send the CD to be pressed onto several new CD's. I may or may not take care of the cover artwork. I do have a basic cover I already put together of a shot from the 46664 concert DVD of the stage with loads of people in the audience in front of it, with a good view, but I am not the best in graphics. If anyone would like to take care of the cover artwork, please let me know. I will take care of the text (and maybe pictures) inside the CD booklet itself (and I will be asking people who participate for a lot of information pertaining to the recordings - will explain later...) And then once the CD's are pressed and the booklets printed, I will set a release date and a website to order the CD's from. As for payment, for now I can confirm that PayPal will be the main preferred method of payment, but I may also set up a postal box address to mail money orders to. So basically, I will be taking care of most everything except the recording sessions, which I will definitely only have a partial role in. EDIT: I will also, of course, distribute the profits to 46664, since they NOW accept money orders. I will have to subtract part of the sales to cover media production costs, unfortunately, because I can't see myself covering production costs. |
| inu-liger 22.06.2004 14:31 |
Oh, as well, I might ask Smash to use his remix on the CD (which I may need him to send me a CD master for - I don't like using MP3's as master sources). I MIGHT also put out the New York remix as an independent CD-Single release, also to raise money towards 46664 with as well, but the only thing is it won't be reflected in the music charts of course since it'd be an independent release :P. But either way, just to get the single release you guys were clamouring for :) Anyways, I want to officially start this project in September/October, although some parts may be done over July and August. I want to aim for a Summer 2005 release. |
| Adam Baboolal 28.06.2004 11:48 |
I think before you go gallavanting off on a space trip, Inu, you should realise that it will NOT be as easy as you think to make and distribute this cd. Read this - link I doubt you'll want to go through that. I know I won't. Peace, Adam. |
| inu-liger 28.06.2004 12:40 |
Hmm. Interesting read. Thanks Adam, I will go over it more when I get to Ontario in a few days. |