| Mack2008 26.05.2004 09:14 |
So - I started listening to Queen in the late 70's. Loved them passionatly. Not a day passed that I didn't listen to at least two albums all the way through. Couldn't go to sleep at night without one of their albums playing. Went to Wembley in 1992 to bid farewell to Freddie. Wept a lot at the stadium and at his house. Very stressful and emotional time. Have met Brian many times and think he's a nice guy who is very gifted. Have met Roger a couple of times - typical rock n roller - again - nice guy. BUT Over the last few years I really feel that "Queen" as Roger and Brian call themselves, are just a shadow of the band they used to be. I find the Pepsi project, musical etc to smell of "grasping at the last whif of success". I know they can do what they like and who am I to sit in judgement on such a great group of musicians but I just feel the name of Queen is being diluted from that of "legendary rock band" to one of "media / pop whores". I guess the only thing that would rekindle my respect and admiration for them right now would be some true creative work on new material and see them living for the now, rather than the past. As my once favorite band stands in ruins I look back with happiness on a great past and look to the future with hope. Sadly, today the only one I have GREAT respect for is John Deacon. He left with his head up and his integrity in one piece. Not trying to start a flame war, just needed to think out loud and hope you can all appreciate my point of view. J. PS - This is a great website! Pity Jacky couldn't come up with something as good. |
| Lawyeris 26.05.2004 09:26 |
I think you lost your faith not in Queen (fab four), but in Brian's and Roger's recent (mainly after Made in Heaven) activity and unsuccesfully/shit projects under the name "Queen". That's normal. I feel allmost the same, but lets keep the faith, things would turn to better side. |
| Hank H. 26.05.2004 10:18 |
It's not new that some of the visitors of this board feel like that and it has all been said before. And I agree 100%. |
| FriedChicken 26.05.2004 12:01 |
Booooooooooring |
| Fenderek 26.05.2004 12:19 |
Feels very similiar... What else to add....? I just hope, I just hope... Milton Keynes out- not a bad move... actually pretty good one, so... I just hope... |
| Into La Ment 26.05.2004 13:41 |
I am very tempted to nod in agreement... that won't lead to me getting hung, drawn and quartered, will it? |
| queenrocks! 10902 26.05.2004 14:04 |
I believe in Queen but "Queen" are just a facelift for the fab four we know and still love. |
| Lord Blackadder 26.05.2004 14:23 |
So if Bri and Rog did another tour, you expect them go on as Brian May and Roger Taylor? They would/will sell alot more as Queen. And I still love Queen as those two, but I don't like it when they play with the WWRY cast. Like at the jubille and Children In Need 2002. And the less said about Pepsi, the better |
| Krizzy 26.05.2004 14:41 |
You have certainly a right to your opinion but look at it from this angle, certainly Brian May and Rgoer Taylor have more power in the music world under the Queen banner, they formed Queen along with FM and JD. They are not Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Ringo, or George Harrison and hence do not possess that kind of musical reverence in the world. However, I'd like to point out to you the thing they do have and will always have is Queen and the rights to their music and songs on the band's behalf (JD gave his permission and why not isn't he making a few bob here and there too as well as FM's heirs...hmmmm) Alot of fans might find it hard to swallow certainly alot of bands including that "holy band" The Beatles who are still much revered have "sold out to corporations", a certain Nike commercial comes to mind in fact. So what they do as "Queen" is nothing new and has been done by many, many other artist. This is nothing to scream about or yell. If you don't like it it's as simple as not playing the music and moving on with your life. I can never understand why ppl complain about something they cannot control. Do you honestly think that Queen or any other band will listen to your rantings about their music in commercials or a musical, really! LOL! Call me a stepford or whatever you want I think it's plain silly to complain about music that has "Sold out" please get a life! Kriz >:| |
| NoOneButYou1975 26.05.2004 15:41 |
Krizzy wrote: You have certainly a right to your opinion but look at it from this angle, certainly Brian May and Rgoer Taylor have more power in the music world under the Queen banner, they formed Queen along with FM and JD. They are not Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Ringo, or George Harrison and hence do not possess that kind of musical reverence in the world. However, I'd like to point out to you the thing they do have and will always have is Queen and the rights to their music and songs on the band's behalf (JD gave his permission and why not isn't he making a few bob here and there too as well as FM's heirs...hmmmm) Alot of fans might find it hard to swallow certainly alot of bands including that "holy band" The Beatles who are still much revered have "sold out to corporations", a certain Nike commercial comes to mind in fact. So what they do as "Queen" is nothing new and has been done by many, many other artist. This is nothing to scream about or yell. If you don't like it it's as simple as not playing the music and moving on with your life. I can never understand why ppl complain about something they cannot control. Do you honestly think that Queen or any other band will listen to your rantings about their music in commercials or a musical, really! LOL! Call me a stepford or whatever you want I think it's plain silly to complain about music that has "Sold out" please get a life! Kriz >:|The Certain Nike commercial wasnt the Beatle's fault...mostly it was Michael Jackson's... |
| Krizzy 26.05.2004 15:42 |
Ah! That's the sell out King! |
| SallyJ. 26.05.2004 16:33 |
You're certainly not the only one who feels this way, JasonMack :) Whatever Brian and Roger may have planned for the future, we always have the past ;-) That sounded horrible, I know! But it's true :P Another J. |
| Adam Baboolal 26.05.2004 18:51 |
You see, there's this weird thing about JD. Most people give him the benefit of the doubt and usually say something about respecting him more than the other remaining members. But while he doesn't participate physically, he sure doesn't mind condoning a lot of what Bri and Rog do. Bri and Rog go off and try things and you don't have to like it - fair enough. But John sits on his bum and makes money from what they're currently doing, so let's bash JD for a while! You guys like da bash, ja? hehe Peace, Adam. |
| Saint Jiub 26.05.2004 18:55 |
You're late to the Party, Adam, but not as late as me. |
| -fatty- 2850 26.05.2004 19:33 |
Amen Mr Mack. You're among friends here. fatty. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 26.05.2004 23:26 |
'I've lost my faith in "Queen"' Take a deep breath. You'll get over it. |
| Nickipee 27.05.2004 00:52 |
"I've lost my faith in Queen" Have you looked down the back of the sofa? |
| Holly2003 27.05.2004 01:20 |
I remember my first appearance on a Queen forum (the old fan club forum which "mysteriously" crashed due to the "millenium bug" i.e Jacky didn't like the criticism the band were getting about recycling old material and passing off solo work and dodgy collaborations as a "Queen Greatest Hit") was to suggest we boycot Greatest Hits 3. The general concensus (apart from Fatty who thought I was a girl and was hoping for some 'fingers & tops') was that I was a "c**t" and "not a real fan." Both of which are true, of course, but I still think the boycot idea would've worked and we might've had a box set by now if GH3 had flopped because of "fan power." But Queen fans will buy anything with the logo on it (including the mythical QueenTurd) and so there's no incentive to release a box set. Why bother when there's loads of cash to be mined from gullible fans who'll but a Greatest Hits package on 8-track, LP, mini-disk, audio cassette, dvd-a etc. |
| Lawyeris 27.05.2004 02:06 |
Holly2003 wrote: I remember my first appearance on a Queen forum (the old fan club forum which "mysteriously" crashed due to the "millenium bug" i.e Jacky didn't like the criticism the band were getting about recycling old material and passing off solo work and dodgy collaborations as a "Queen Greatest Hit") was to suggest we boycot Greatest Hits 3. The general concensus (apart from Fatty who thought I was a girl and was hoping for some 'fingers & tops') was that I was a "c**t" and "not a real fan." Both of which are true, of course, but I still think the boycot idea would've worked and we might've had a box set by now if GH3 had flopped because of "fan power." But Queen fans will buy anything with the logo on it (including the mythical QueenTurd) and so there's no incentive to release a box set. Why bother when there's loads of cash to be mined from gullible fans who'll but a Greatest Hits package on 8-track, LP, mini-disk, audio cassette, dvd-a etc.So, are you girl or not? |
| Holly2003 27.05.2004 03:12 |
"So, are you girl or not?" Isn't that what the Germans said to your Prime Minister in 1941? :) |
| Eoin 27.05.2004 08:06 |
I have recently got very into dream theater and for a while I was worried I was losing my love for Queen - it didn't last long, and there are 3 fool proof ways to realsing what amzing band Queen are: 1) listen to 'the show must go on' really loud at least tiwce in a row. Listen out for freddies amazing vocals, a classic example of classic John bass, two of the greatest guitar solos ever.....and roger's quite good too 2) Listen to any live version of 'I'm in love with my car', and sing along - it even work if you don't like cars. Just listen out for rogers wonderful voice and brilliant fills. Also freddies great backing vocals and piano. 3) Watch the recently downloadable Hammersmith 75 concert. Look out for the brilliant showmanship (blow up dolls, roses, balloons), rogers two brilliant drum intros, John's bass solo in 'Liar', Freddies vocals in 'White Queen' and Brian guitar solo (go on, admit it, you like them) .....and rekindle your love |
| Lawyeris 27.05.2004 09:08 |
Holly2003 wrote: "So, are you girl or not?" Isn't that what the Germans said to your Prime Minister in 1941? :)Nop, but maybe Soviets said that, cant remember |
| D.Blythe 27.05.2004 09:52 |
MMM...Girls Seriously, with respect to an earlier post, the gripe of most who have posted to this topic is not with the music of Queen from 71-92, it is with the questionable collaborations and decisions made AFTER 1992. "Made In Heaven" was a good final album utilizing Freddie's final vocals (well, most of it) but "5ive"? Pepsi? I can listen to "The Show Must Go On" at full volume all I want (and often do) but that does not ease my discomfort at the attempts of Brian and Roger trying to give the old bones at best a good rattle with their performances as "Queen". I thought "Queen" ended with Freddie's death and I thought it was Brian who gave us that notion. Look at Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. They could have grabbed John Paul Jones and Jason Bonham and attempted to resurrect Led Zeppelin, but they went off on their own and recorded as Page and Plant. I do not begrudge Brian and Roger for promoting the musical, and I understand the record companies want new compilations now and again, but I am concerned by their performances billed as "Queen". I have to wonder now if those rumors of Brian and Roger teaming with a vocalist (Robbie Williams, George Michael) for a tour were a couple of "trial balloons" floated out to gauge the reaction. Much like John Kerry's balloon about possibly delaying his acceptance of the Democratic nomination to take advantage of a fundraising loophole. |
| Rich Tea 27.05.2004 12:34 |
Whether it is right or wrong doesn't matter personnally they can do what they like it will not diminish the memories! What is still important is that QUEEN is still high profile for fans old and New and worldwide sales of Queen material is still very respectable. I like most long for some new material keep the faith it will arrive one day! |
| BornToBeKings 27.05.2004 16:13 |
I post this not to change any opinions, but simply for clarity's sake...it's a COKE commercial that will feature a Queen song, not Pepsi (as so many people are assuming). |
| D.Blythe 27.05.2004 16:22 |
Brian and Roger did participate in a Pepsi commercial in Italy with Britney Spears, Beyonce, and Enrique Iglesias. I believe that featured "We Will Rock You". |
| BornToBeKings 27.05.2004 16:24 |
Ahh, an oversight on my part. Thank you for clarifying. |
| Sonja 27.05.2004 16:37 |
JasonMack wrote: Sadly, today the only one I have GREAT respect for is John Deacon. He left with his head up and his integrity in one piece.This is probably the best sentence ever said about this topic. I agree 100%! Here's my opinion: I still have respect for Bri's and Roger's work, I think they sort of keep the spirit of Queen alive and I support them 100%. That doesn't mean that I like everything they do. I saw the Musical 3 times and loved it but I think the Pepsi ad wasn't necessary. I agree. They call themselves Queen, it's like a brand. But they're certainly not Queen anymore. Queen died with Freddie. I've always admired The Clash for not having done a reunion tour although they were offered millions. And the former Clash members and even Joe Strummer weren't by far as the surviving Queen members. They do alright but they're not rich. Still they were never up for a reunion, they would never have done it for any money in the world - because they knew that their time was over. And that's one thing that makes The Clash so special to me. So, yes, John Deacon did it right and deserves the greatest respect! |
| Adam Baboolal 27.05.2004 16:55 |
"but I think the Pepsi ad wasn't necessary." lol! What ad is necessary! :) |
| Zander05 28.05.2004 09:31 |
At least Brian and Roger are still able to do anything. I mean, what if they both wanted to do a show... say... hypothetically... a little tribute to Freddie, and whoever owned the stadium said they couldn't because they wouldn't gain interest with that. I personally do not consider them Queen, but they're carrying that name and there's nothing we can do but go with the flow and hope there's no more stupid advertising stunts *couPEPSIgh* |
| The Black Queen 28.05.2004 20:56 |
You know what, I agree with this dude. I wouldn't know what it would be with the original four members, being born too late. But before I had any knowledge of Bri and Rog aka "Queen" doing anything, I was perfectly happy with the old 70's albums. But now, with all this "Queen +" whoever BS and all the Pepsi ads (even my dad thinks they've done a sell-out move), I think, and throw all the stones you want at me, they really have sold out, and tried to grab their last whiff of success with the musical, the Pepsi ads and so on and so forth. I still do have some sort of respect for Bri and Rog as musicians, but maybe not as "Queen". (yet another rare post from TBQ) |
| Rich Tea 30.05.2004 03:56 |
SOLD OUT Ha ha all my mates at School thought Queen sold out when they released Sheer Heart Attack, Killer Queen was not heavey enough for them! New music or new interpritations of old music is always welcome as far as I'm concerned. If you don't like it ignore it, its your choice and opinion and you are entitled to it as much as Brian & Roger are entitled to do what they want and see fit with Queen. You can't change history and they won't Queen will always be true legends! Now hurry up with that NEW album guys! |
| fat-bottomed girl 05.06.2004 14:12 |
Look, Queen's most recent attempts may not be up to their old standards, but come on- their old standards were ridiculously high- no one could top that, especially with Freddie gone!! At least they didn't replace him and limp along producing shoddy music and pretending that they were doing fine (like a lot of other well known groups) |
| Mr_Fahrenheit 08.06.2004 22:06 |
Out here in the states, Queen has used "We Are The Champions" for a Viagra commercial, as well as "I'm In Love With My Car" for a Jaguar commercial. Personally, I have not seen the infamous Pepsi commercial, but I have downloaded the audio, and I think it sounds like shit. I agree with you, and I think that they have completely sold out. Maybe, they should endorse tampons or Preparation H next. They've just about made it there with the Viagra commercial. Don't get me wrong, I adore Queen, and I love their music, I just think these promotional ideas are a bit insulting for the band. As a wise man once said, "The things we do for money." |
| Shane Jazz 08.06.2004 22:57 |
What Queen song would they use to promote Preperation H? lol maybe Put Out the Fire! |
| Azmandaman 09.06.2004 04:17 |
sold out! I think once you have made a million pound or over in wealth with your own written songs and having other poeple singing it, and that person is also a famous name then yes this is called sell outs, while you mentioning Queen in that case feel free to mention Presley, maddona, beatles, Jackson, and thats only four.. what ever band you think are good no doubt some one is imitating them so well that, that imitator is goin to get recognise famously for that cover song, all good things comes to a sell out once they have made it unless you are devoted into hardcore grunge metal with your disciples of teenage black goths head banging in your own little world then yeah... them guys will never sell out lol! cant see robbie and any other squeeeks covering a slipknot |