inu-liger 22.05.2004 15:51 |
I did not tell anyone of this, nor should I for legal reasons, but long story short: I filed a human rights complaint against McDonald's because they abused me while I worked (in some things relating to my condition Asperger's), they try to strike back at me saying they never did any wrongdoings, I present proof of my condition (with a diagnosis paper from 2001) to my conciliator, and McDonald's hesistantly takes up a counter offer I made to them to settle the case with. For legal reasons, I cannot disclose the terms of the contract between me and McDonald's publicly, but I can say that I have won a big victory, even though legally I have to acknowledge that McDonald's is settling the case with me while maintaining that they did not do anything wrong, which kinda pisses me off cos I know otherwise... But anyways, I am happy. Otherwise, I also got a laserdisc player today, so I can finally watch the Urusei Yatsura Movie 5 LD I got earlier this week off of eBay |
Penis - Vagina 22.05.2004 16:30 |
You know what I hate is when you hit the drive-thru at 3:20 am and the bastards have turned off the ice cream machine for the night! 'Open 24 hours' my ass! I want ice cream comes ANY TIME of those 24 hours, thank you very much. Fuckers! |
Daburcor? 22.05.2004 16:38 |
Good for you Dark! :D |
*the Time Guardian* 22.05.2004 17:29 |
don't eat crappy junk food! |
Penis - Vagina 22.05.2004 17:32 |
"Welcome to McDonald's. I just got a new laserdisc player. Would you like to try our new Fiesta salad? I have some vinyl albums for sale if you're interested. Would you like fries with that? Pokemon rules! Please pull forward" |
-fatty- 2850 22.05.2004 18:31 |
Good for you my little poppet. I love it when some enterprising some scamp fleeces a few quid from their employers. The more I read about you, the more I loves ya. Keep up the good work. fatty. |
Daburcor? 22.05.2004 18:33 |
Gay Jeffry, You will forever be Gay Jeffery to me. You sealed your fate. ;) |
Saint Jiub 22.05.2004 22:46 |
Should this inspire me to go postal, blame it on my bipolar illness, and then sue the the victims? |
ilizarov 23.05.2004 04:00 |
This just stinks to me of someone making a few bob from their illness. Whatever amount of cash MacDonalds gave you, you can bet that in the big scheme of things it was a negligible amount to them, just given to you to shut you up. I would have thought anyone who genuinley thought they had been abused would have wanted MacDonalds to admit they had done so, to prevent anything like that ('that' being whatever happened) happening again, and also to keep your own sense of pride that you havent let them away with it. Reacting in the way that you have, taking the money and running (infact it seems even more blatant than that - "give me a few quid chaps and we'll say no more about it"), seems from here to show that you probably didnt have much of a case in the first place, but used the 'I'm disabled' card to get a few quid out of them. PS: "I've won a case against McDonald's" - no you havent you idiot, since you have agreed to settle the case with macdonlds taking the view that they did nothing wrong. Unless of course, the idea was to get a few quid from macdoanlds by using your illness - if that was your plan then yes, you have won. Enjoy your new laserdisc player. |
NoOneButYou1975 23.05.2004 08:42 |
did they hit you with a supersize order of fries??? |
-fatty- 2850 23.05.2004 08:50 |
I have to admit, I don't know the first thing about Dark's condition but from what I have seen of it so far, it seems the only real symptom is that it makes the sufferer act like a tit from time to time. Wee Dark could have made a stand for justice but can you really imagine him as a spokesman for others with the same condition? I honestly think he did the right thing and he has a shiny new laser disc player and a few quid in his back pocket to prove it. fatty. |
~Silje~ 23.05.2004 09:19 |
Good for you, Dark. :-) |
Freddie-B 23.05.2004 10:00 |
Well done, it always warms my heart to see that not everyone has given up. |
Pluto 23.05.2004 13:43 |
good for you dark |
Flashman 24.05.2004 02:54 |
Jolly well done. I have some cracking ideas for investment if you're interested. Just you listen to your Uncle Flashy... did you know there's oil in the Pennines? |
Brian_Mays_Wig 24.05.2004 03:50 |
Congratulations *applauds* |
Mr.Jingles 24.05.2004 09:38 |
A victory?... in some way perhaps, but not really. |
Penetration_Guru 24.05.2004 16:11 |
So how bad was the alleged abuse? |
-fatty- 2850 24.05.2004 16:19 |
Why do people always asume that abuse has to be a bad thing? fatty. |
NoOneButYou1975 25.05.2004 10:32 |
The_Witch_King wrote: I think he abused a customer, something like this; could i have a big mac and some fries? no fuck off! The customer complained and Inu Yasha gets fired, he then says he didn't say it or cannot remember.He then brings up his "condition" hence the law-suit that follows. Failing that he got caught with his pecker between a large Sesame Seed topped bun.or they asked for an Assburger with fries ...lol had to do it |
Q4E 26.05.2004 09:08 |
thats nice |
deleted user 26.05.2004 10:57 |
I said I wasn't going to post here any more, but you guys are ass holes. But this is why I'm not here much. Making fun of a kid with a dissease is cool? Then I don't want any part of it or the people who think it's funny. He is a good person, who is trying to make a go of it in todays world. Dealing with the likes of you has to be hard. He doesn't come to this board to be humiliated, he comes here because he wants, and needs some friends. And I am one of the few who are. I'll stick up for him because I could care less what the majority of you think. I know how he feels. How it feels to be mocked and ridiculed. I had it all thru school, and now even into my adult life because of the way that I am a very thin man. People ask "are you sick?" or "don't you eat?" " are you on drugs?" It drives your self esteem right into the ground. I needed people to accept me for who and what I was and am. Not people who abuse, and tear the will from anothers soul. So keep that in mind with your 'mock fest' of Richard. I'm glad you did something about it Richard. And good for you for doing so. You have a friend here. |
Mr.Jingles 26.05.2004 11:02 |
I agree with Matt on that one. Making fun of Dark for being a fan of Pokemon and other silly anime shows is OK. But making fun of his condition definitely crosses the line. |
Janet 26.05.2004 12:39 |
Excellent post, Matt. |
iron eagle 26.05.2004 14:26 |
another attempt at revising history??? |
NoOneButYou1975 26.05.2004 15:38 |
iron eagle wrote: another attempt at revising history???or repeating it? |
Mr.Jingles 26.05.2004 17:44 |
Is it me or this board has been getting a lot worse since Peter North and Witch King joined in. |
inu-liger 26.05.2004 18:35 |
Sorry for not posting for a while on this subject. (I'll explain later) "I would love to see the papers on his complaint" If I get the chance, I might scan something, but right now I just came back from giving my conciliator back the 3 signed copies of the contract between me and McD's, which she is going to sign and send to their representative in Toronto this week, so I don't have anything atm. that I could provide as proof. "How bad was the alleged abuse?" Put it this way: I cannot do multitasking all at once in a short time, and they forced me to do a lot of things at once in strict timings |
Saint Jiub 26.05.2004 18:48 |
Dark's bad character history from memory ... and I'm sure I am missing a lot ... Bad trading ... some still have not forgiven him Occasional bouts of homophobia he later blames on his syndrome. Attention getting Queenzone threads he later blames on his syndrome. And now this lawsuit against McD's which he links to his syndrome: "Oh pity me I have a syndrome, and I absolutely no responsiblity for my actions. Give me a laser disk player and I will settle my frivilous lawsuit." Oh well, I thought the USA was the only country to have a problem with bogus lawsuits. |
inu-liger 26.05.2004 18:56 |
Btw. I did not get a laserdisc player because of McDonald's. That was just a side note. I bought that with money I made elsewhere |
Penis - Vagina 26.05.2004 19:04 |
- Canadians are wacky in general. Ever read Heart lyrics? - I only make fun of Dark in a loving manner. I believe if someone is goofy, they have to accept the consequences of it. - I can only imagine the sheer horror of being too thin. It must be truly awful. Thankfully this is something which I never have to worry about. |
Penis - Vagina 26.05.2004 19:12 |
The Buffalo Chicken Conspiracy wrote: - I only make fun of Dark in a loving manner. I believe if someone is goofy, they have to accept the consequences of it.And here's a thread where I asked why people made fun of him: link That was obviously before I joined in. It just depends on my mood.. I have bipolar disorder you know, so I'm more likely to inhumorate someone at their expense when I'm in a manic phase. |
Penis - Vagina 26.05.2004 19:27 |
The Buffalo Chicken Conspiracy wrote: inhumorate someoneinhumorate (also 'inhumourate', British spelling), inhumorated, inhumoration, inhumorating verb: To make fun of; to use humor at the expense of someone "I only inhumorate him out of love" |
ilizarov 27.05.2004 03:42 |
"Put it this way: I cannot do multitasking all at once in a short time, and they forced me to do a lot of things at once in strict timings" - a job where you have to multitask, and where there are deadlines? Your right dark, that sounds totally unreasonable. |
inu-liger 28.05.2004 14:38 |
You're one sick fuck |
inu-liger 28.05.2004 15:37 |
Agujero del asno |
Saint Jiub 28.05.2004 16:13 |
Hmmm ... Someone who makes Dark look like a saint. Imagine that. I thought I had seen everything. The real Peter North should sue the fiticious Peter North for defamation of character. |
Penetration_Guru 28.05.2004 16:26 |
My issue with this is not the disease, but the exploitation of it. ..and claiming that the LD player is coincidental is classic Dark... "they forced me to do a lot of things at once in strict timings" er...that's what they ask everyone to do in a McDonald's. That's how they get (in their view) a consistent product. |
Saint Jiub 28.05.2004 17:31 |
For some reason Dark got plenty of congratulations and support. Seems many like treating the legal system as a lottery system. Then there is that brilliant QZ Turd whose behavior unintentionally (??) tries to elicit sympathy for Dark. |
inu-liger 28.05.2004 18:22 |
For some reason Dark got plenty of congratulations and support. Seems many like treating the legal system as a lottery system.Only thing is, I was not in it for the money, originally. I was in it to get my name cleared, and to get my job back... I will tell you what the result is now, regardless of whether I am supposed to legally keep shut about it or not. The original reason for the complaint I filed against them was that I felt I had been wrongfully dismissed based on a false report by a 'mystery shop customer' (the ones who do the surveys for certain intelligence companies) who I had served. I wanted to get my name cleared, which is not the end result as it is now. I had written about the abuse relating to my condition as part of the letter I had submitted to the Alberta Human Rights Commission that started this whole case, which was a big part but not necessarily the only thing about this case (although my earlier posts may suggest otherwise). And to give you more details about the multitasking bits and more, what I had done in the beginning when I got hired was tell my managers I started out with that I had Asperger's Syndrome and that I would be needing instructions in a simple order rather than in a 'complicated' order, and that I would probably need some help with the orders during peak customer periods. I had a little help for the first while, but then they started getting lazy and stopped giving me help, because they naturally assumed I could do it on my own, which was not true. Eventually, I started becoming stressed out, and had a hard time trying to keep up with customers. Then I was fired after they had read the mystery customer's report online (btw. which is not available to the public - even I don't have access to that report), and they did not even give me a chance to explain what was really the case. I had asked McD's for my job to be re-instated, only at a location in a new where I moved recently (Dec '03), when I was asked by them and by my conciliator for a way I thought we could settle this claim, and they said no. So I did not have much choices for what I wanted to ask of McDonald's in order to settle the claim. I wanted to prove that they were wrong in firing me, and that I deserved some sort of settlement that would be fair to me. So I made a counter-offer to McDonald's for them to give me 2-6 month's worth of pay and a letter of reference for future employers (reason for the letter is that because I had not been allowing people I've been handing in applications to to contact McDonald's for a reference, and I have not had success in even getting calls back for job interviews!), and so they offered me $500 minus taxes and the letter of reference, and so I accepted, and that's what I am getting. |
Maz 28.05.2004 18:30 |
So, for $500 Canadian, McDonalds doesn't have to admit any wrong doing? This whole topic seems overblown for a 500 dollar settlement. |
inu-liger 28.05.2004 18:39 |
So, for $500 Canadian, McDonalds doesn't have to admit any wrong doing? This whole topic seems overblown for a 500 dollar settlement.Well, it's not $500 so that McDonald's does not have to admit any wrong doing. They offered $500 out of goodwill and to have something to settle the case between us, but it does not mean that it is a result of wrongdoing or anything like that. But I thought I'd post about this because most people who go against McDonald's usually lose out, and I'm probably one of the few people these days who have had some sort of settlement made with McDonald's. And I agree, this is overblown. (Either that, or people need something new to make fun of me over instead of my homophobia, autism card-playing, etc.) |
NoOneButYou1975 28.05.2004 21:11 |
Inu Yasha wrote:you want fries with that isnt too hard to ask :)For some reason Dark got plenty of congratulations and support. Seems many like treating the legal system as a lottery system.Only thing is, I was not in it for the money, originally. I was in it to get my name cleared, and to get my job back... I will tell you what the result is now, regardless of whether I am supposed to legally keep shut about it or not. The original reason for the complaint I filed against them was that I felt I had been wrongfully dismissed based on a false report by a 'mystery shop customer' (the ones who do the surveys for certain intelligence companies) who I had served. I wanted to get my name cleared, which is not the end result as it is now. I had written about the abuse relating to my condition as part of the letter I had submitted to the Alberta Human Rights Commission that started this whole case, which was a big part but not necessarily the only thing about this case (although my earlier posts may suggest otherwise). And to give you more details about the multitasking bits and more, what I had done in the beginning when I got hired was tell my managers I started out with that I had Asperger's Syndrome and that I would be needing instructions in a simple order rather than in a 'complicated' order, and that I would probably need some help with the orders during peak customer periods. I had a little help for the first while, but then they started getting lazy and stopped giving me help, because they naturally assumed I could do it on my own, which was not true. Eventually, I started becoming stressed out, and had a hard time trying to keep up with customers. Then I was fired after they had read the mystery customer's report online (btw. which is not available to the public - even I don't have access to that report), and they did not even give me a chance to explain what was really the case. I had asked McD's for my job to be re-instated, only at a location in a new where I moved recently (Dec '03), when I was asked by them and by my conciliator for a way I thought we could settle this claim, and they said no. So I did not have much choices for what I wanted to ask of McDonald's in order to settle the claim. I wanted to prove that they were wrong in firing me, and that I deserved some sort of settlement that would be fair to me. So I made a counter-offer to McDonald's for them to give me 2-6 month's worth of pay and a letter of reference for future employers (reason for the letter is that because I had not been allowing people I've been handing in applications to to contact McDonald's for a reference, and I have not had success in even getting calls back for job interviews!), and so they offered me $500 minus taxes and the letter of reference, and so I accepted, and that's what I am getting. |
Saint Jiub 28.05.2004 22:34 |
NoOneButYou1975 wrote:I think I will further abuse the Quote function.Inu Yasha wrote:you want fries with that isnt too hard to ask :)For some reason Dark got plenty of congratulations and support. Seems many like treating the legal system as a lottery system.Only thing is, I was not in it for the money, originally. I was in it to get my name cleared, and to get my job back... I will tell you what the result is now, regardless of whether I am supposed to legally keep shut about it or not. The original reason for the complaint I filed against them was that I felt I had been wrongfully dismissed based on a false report by a 'mystery shop customer' (the ones who do the surveys for certain intelligence companies) who I had served. I wanted to get my name cleared, which is not the end result as it is now. I had written about the abuse relating to my condition as part of the letter I had submitted to the Alberta Human Rights Commission that started this whole case, which was a big part but not necessarily the only thing about this case (although my earlier posts may suggest otherwise). And to give you more details about the multitasking bits and more, what I had done in the beginning when I got hired was tell my managers I started out with that I had Asperger's Syndrome and that I would be needing instructions in a simple order rather than in a 'complicated' order, and that I would probably need some help with the orders during peak customer periods. I had a little help for the first while, but then they started getting lazy and stopped giving me help, because they naturally assumed I could do it on my own, which was not true. Eventually, I started becoming stressed out, and had a hard time trying to keep up with customers. Then I was fired after they had read the mystery customer's report online (btw. which is not available to the public - even I don't have access to that report), and they did not even give me a chance to explain what was really the case. I had asked McD's for my job to be re-instated, only at a location in a new where I moved recently (Dec '03), when I was asked by them and by my conciliator for a way I thought we could settle this claim, and they said no. So I did not have much choices for what I wanted to ask of McDonald's in order to settle the claim. I wanted to prove that they were wrong in firing me, and that I deserved some sort of settlement that would be fair to me. So I made a counter-offer to McDonald's for them to give me 2-6 month's worth of pay and a letter of reference for future employers (reason for the letter is that because I had not been allowing people I've been handing in applications to to contact McDonald's for a reference, and I have not had success in even getting calls back for job interviews!), and so they offered me $500 minus taxes and the letter of reference, and so I accepted, and that's what I am getting. |
Penetration_Guru 29.05.2004 12:53 |
If you haven't seen the Mystery Shopper Report (and each McDOnald's & Burger King in this country has each report sent to them, so that they can be celebrated/appealed/learnt from as necessary), how do you know it was false? If you became stressed as a result of your managers naively believing that after settling in and (presumably) demonstrating some ability to do the job, you would be able to tackle more advanced tasks, isn't it possible that the report is correct (assuming it is negative about your behaviour)? Furthermore, if this report highlights an inability to perform the job as specified, aren't they correct to discipline you? |
inu-liger 29.05.2004 16:09 |
If you haven't seen the Mystery Shopper Report (and each McDOnald's & Burger King in this country has each report sent to them, so that they can be celebrated/appealed/learnt from as necessary), how do you know it was false? Furthermore, if this report highlights an inability to perform the job as specified, aren't they correct to discipline you?What you are saying would have been a possibility had I continued futher on without help, but what the customer said did not reflect anything to do with my stress. It seems it was based more on their own 'opinion' rather than fact, or what actually happened during that day. What they said was that I did not smile, say "Thank you", or even finish the order, which is a complete load of bollocks. I always do say thank you, I usually smile, and that part about not finishing the order...Well it was only my job that day to take the order only, not also fill it as well, but that customer must have thought I intentionally made someone else fill my orders - that's not what happened. I sometimes, like I said, get help from other co-employees, if they are already scheduled to work, who will take my order slips and fill the bags with fries, burgers, condiments, and fill the drinks and hand those out. And I actually did get shown part of the report at the time when I was being fired, I was just not allowed to keep it for myself as, like I said, it's an intelligence report used for certain reasons. And I do not have access to it either way, and I would suppose the head office has that report along with every other reports done, not just on me but other employees and other locations, on file but not allowing it accessible to even former employees, which pisses me off. |
inu-liger 29.05.2004 16:11 |
As well, the LD player was NOT a coincidence, P_G. I have not even received the cheque from McDonald's yet for the $500, so I obviously did not get the LD player because of me settling with McDonald's the case against them. I was working at another restaurant, and I just happened to get my pay a few days before I started this topic (before that weekend). I will be waiting at LEAST two weeks, if not more, depending how long it takes the respondent in Toronto to sign the contracts I signed and that my conciliator signed (and my dad signed as well as a witness) sent to them. My conciliator and I met on Wednesday earlier this week, and I gave her the papers, and she said she would immediately send them out once she signed them, which doesn't take even little time at all considering she was the one who prepared and typed them up. |
inu-liger 29.05.2004 16:51 |
On a sort of related note....... How bad must it be to not be able to get it together enough to keep a job at McDonalds?I suppose that it sucks now, because I am having a hard time getting other jobs, and people want references from McDonald's by contacting them, which I am not allowing them to do, until I get that letter of reference I asked for. And I was hoping to go to the Cleveland convention, but I can't now. I don't have a job atm. either, which sucks a lot |
inu-liger 29.05.2004 17:32 |
Umm, no thanks |
inu-liger 29.05.2004 17:32 |
TOPIC CLOSED |
Penetration_Guru 29.05.2004 20:37 |
I thought you didn't want to be a moderator? |
the oppositionist 29.11.2004 20:32 |
This reminds me of the film super size me. i saw it about three weeks back and well, lets say Ive nearly been put off... |
Music Man 29.11.2004 21:37 |
Oh, man, I love McDonalds. I don't care what they put in there, because from what I can tell, it is a whole lot of delicious with a side of tasty. As for the case, it seems (from his side of the story) that the management was given a clear overview of his situation before he was hired, and thus did hired him with the judgement that he could perform the essential functions of the job in question. I am not familiar with Canadian law, but in America it is illegal for an employer such as McDonalds to discriminate against qualified individuals with disabilities in any terms of his employment, such as his firing. Since he was already deemed qualified for the job with his disability, any complications due to this disability should not be grounds for which his employer may fire him. |
The Real Wizard 30.11.2004 01:32 |
<font color=000000>Music Man</font> wrote: Oh, man, I love McDonalds. I don't care what they put in there, because from what I can tell, it is a whole lot of delicious with a side of tasty. As for the case, it seems (from his side of the story) that the management was given a clear overview of his situation before he was hired, and thus did hired him with the judgement that he could perform the essential functions of the job in question. I am not familiar with Canadian law, but in America it is illegal for an employer such as McDonalds to discriminate against qualified individuals with disabilities in any terms of his employment, such as his firing. Since he was already deemed qualified for the job with his disability, any complications due to this disability should not be grounds for which his employer may fire him.Logically, yes. But unfortunately there is no rule stating that everyone is required to follow logic. What a better place this world would be if there was. |