CMG 09.05.2004 09:20 |
Any info about the things played by Greg this year? Any info about their release? |
Ron 09.05.2004 12:32 |
nope none did he play any tracks last year? didnt heard a thing about it |
CMG 09.05.2004 13:40 |
Its just Jacky said there would be some new stuff played this year by greg... |
Daz85 10.05.2004 16:09 |
Yeah, what's the goss? |
Bohardy 11.05.2004 03:23 |
Come on folks! There must be some news, no? |
YourValentine 11.05.2004 04:58 |
I heard that Greg did in fact play some new demos - among others an instrumental jam which became Coming Soon later. (edited) |
Banquo 11.05.2004 07:15 |
Okey doky. They were mostly backing tracks and early versions off the top of my head I can think of Great King Rat, Brighton Rock and a very early version of Coming Soon which didn't sound anything like it. The next DVD will be Milton Keynes, followed by Houston '77 (only joking). And finally it looks like a Made In Heaven type album will be released using Freddie vocals that no-one has ever heard before. |
Togg 11.05.2004 08:32 |
Seriously, vocals that we have never heard before? that begs the question why didn't they use them the first time round instead of going back to Freddie's solo material. Still if that's the case, or in fact any new studio album comes out I'm happy! |
Banquo 11.05.2004 09:22 |
That's what I heard. I seem to remember Fight From The Inside with a different Roger vocal playing as well. The new video for the I Was Born to Love you Japanese version played as well, featuring a band peformance from Wembley 86 and Freddie orginal video for the song cut and pasted DoRo style by Simon Lupton to be fair he only had a day to do it. This will be on Greatest Flix III. On a more personal note I was disappointed by lack of solo videos playing during the day on the big screen and hearing Crazy Little Thing Called Love 15-20 times on the trot for the Rock and Roll Dancing instruction. A bit more thought would have enabled someone to alternate with Man On The Prowl or just play some proper rock and roll like Little Richard. Not play the same song over and over again it drove me up the wall. And someone turn the heating on in Lunars it was fucking freezing in there all weekend. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 11.05.2004 10:22 |
So if a MIH type album was to be released, who is gonna fill in for John?? |
Daburcor? 11.05.2004 10:24 |
Pee-wee Herman!!! No...? *huff* Fiiiiinnnnnneeeeee.... |
FriedChicken 11.05.2004 10:46 |
If there will be new MiH kind of songs, I think Brian or Roger will play the bass, or maybe they'll ask Neil Murray? |
Adam Baboolal 11.05.2004 11:18 |
"that begs the question why didn't they use them the first time round instead of going back to Freddie's solo material." Does it? How many tracks did they use for the MIH album that had been demos? IABD and LML. The others were tracks from Fred in the last sessions and of course the tracks that were made into Queen versions. The reason for the Fred solo stuff being turned into solo versions were because of Brian's love of those songs. And because they fit in with the MIH album. Read his latest interviews and you'll see that. The other tracks go without saying. Peace, Adam. |
FriedChicken 11.05.2004 11:25 |
"Does it? How many tracks did they use for the MIH album that had been demos? IABD and LML. The others were tracks from Fred in the last sessions and of course the tracks that were made into Queen versions." Heaven For Everyone was a Queen demo before the cross recorded it |
FriedChicken 11.05.2004 11:26 |
the only "new" songs from MiH are: You don't fool me Mother love Winters Tale the other songs were or unused Queen songs, or re-recordings of solo songs. It's a Beautiful Day: Re-recording of a 1980 demo Made in Heaven: Re-recording of a solo song Let me Live: Re-recording of a song from 1983, Dunno how much was done then, and after the Innuendo sessions. (I'm talking about the freddie vocals here) My Life has been Saved: Re-recording of the B-side recorded in 1989 I Was Born to Love You: Re-recording of a solo song Heaven For Everyone: Re-recording of a Queen song (1986) and The Cross song (1988?) Too Much Love will Kill You: Re-recording of a Queen song (1989) and Brian song (1992) |
Togg 11.05.2004 11:44 |
Well Brians love of the tracks or not it still seems rather odd not to use new material if it was available, and if I remember correctly at the time we were told that was it, nothing else excisted that could be used. Also until we know what tracks they are taking about it's a bit premature to be saying the other fitted with the MIH album, but I just think much as I love the album I would have been keen to hear a new track with Fred on rather than two versions of It's a beautiful day, and IWBTLY. |
FriedChicken 11.05.2004 12:38 |
or another version of WWRY |
Daz85 11.05.2004 13:12 |
Greg Brooks began archiving all the Queen sessions after Made In Heaven, so they now have a better awareness of what is available and what can be used. MIH would have consisted of randomly going through old tapes to find stuff that could be used rather than actually 'knowing'. |
Daz85 11.05.2004 13:58 |
Mnay thanks for all the info Banquo. Just one question - what was actually said about this new Made In Heaven-style album? How was it mentioned? |
Banquo 11.05.2004 15:10 |
As the next Queen venture, it seems that is the way Brian and Roger are thinking. Although it was mentioned don't expect anything for a few years the WWRY musical remains the driving force. All the tracks played were spoilt as well by Greg saying 'Property of Queen Productions' every 20 seconds during the songs, this was the only way Jim Beach would allow them to be played. |
FriedChicken 11.05.2004 15:13 |
Thats stupid, who cares if people bootleg the songs. The quality sucks, so the fans who want to hear it will buy the box set after all. or download it off the internet when they finally released it. |
Pim Derks 11.05.2004 17:26 |
In some way, I think it's kind of sad if B+R release a new Queen album by using old Freddie outtakes. He's been dead for almost 13 years now and I think it's a bit lame to release ANOTHER album with 'new' tracks, almost 10 years after this first one.... On the other hand, I'm happy they're actually thinking about doing something new (though I'd much rather see a solo RT album, or a BM+RT collaboration album under the Queen name), instead of re-re-recycling old stuff or promoting a new version of the WWRY musical in Zimbabwe.... |
deleted user 12.05.2004 04:45 |
does anyone recorded the tracks? even if greg brooks talks over there.. maybe it's better, i never heard brook's voice. anything available for share/trade? cheers! |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 07:00 |
Think of a drunk englishman. and there you have his voice |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 07:01 |
Contact me if you want to hear it Hangman, I could edit out the 3 seconds of Greg Brooks of all the songs and paste them all together to a big Greg file! |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 07:02 |
btw, If anyone has recorded it send it to me aswell, i want to hear Gregs voice again |
Hank H. 12.05.2004 09:54 |
For me the most likely explanation for not including any existing Freddie vocals in MIH is that they are shit. Therefore (and for many other reasons) I wouldn't be too excited about a MIH-type album. BM and RT are alive and kicking, so either record new songs or give it up. |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 11:35 |
I would be very excited, cause I really love every single song on MiH, especially Born to Love You. But I won't get my hopes op, cause i'm 90% sure this project won't happen |
Maz 12.05.2004 12:51 |
"BM and RT are alive and kicking, so either record new songs or give it up." I agree. Demos are demos for a reason. We can't expect high quality in 2004 for something that was discarded over a decade ago. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 12.05.2004 13:13 |
Tiny bits of Freddie's vocals back from the trash bin? Who needs this? Come on... * suddenly my faces turns red an unrecognizable * WE WANTSSS IT!!! WE LOVES PRRRRECIOUSSSS!!! * back to normal * Sorry about that. :) Cheers, Ogre- |
Fenderek 12.05.2004 14:22 |
I just think that WHATEVER they'll decide to do- some certain ppl will say "oh come on- not that, sth else, it's gonna be crap, etc..." Even if they did "sth else"- would be the same... Let's wait- we have a good training in that!:) -and than judge the product... Personally- I'm thrilled! No f**king Britney or seasonal karaoke singer Williams, not another pointless version of WWRY, not musical in suahili but at least some possibility of decent stuff: milton keynes, Hammersmith, new album... I was always the first one to criticise Queen for what they were doing recently, but... Shit, I really want to be proud of'em again!!!!(taking about the present, that is...) And I really, really want to see this stuff out...!!! |
Daburcor? 12.05.2004 14:33 |
I agree! BRING ON THE COOL NEW STUFF! :D |
andYYY 12.05.2004 15:53 |
What I found funny was Greg's "buy the first person a pint " challenge to the audience to name the track that became coming soon, it took approx 1 second for someone to name it ...............btw the fight from the inside demo had some cursing and 2 extra lines i counted, the source of the alt take of one year of love at the end was hilarious!!!!and yeah the weather was freezing!, the ballroom was absolutely boiling though..........there was a polite notice on the notice board saying further recording of Greg's demo's may lead to an outright ban (for those sober enough to read it)heheh... I look foward to Simon Lupton's plans to release some "Live Killers" type dvd after milton keynes , and even more live stuff on dvd to follow, but, please release the infamous "Gerry stickells "Roadworks" book and "Queen -Live at The BBC" first......... |
Daz85 12.05.2004 16:13 |
Can anyone give a full list of the demos played and any other future DVD titbits? |
Adam Baboolal 12.05.2004 16:32 |
The "demos are demos for a reason" argument isn't always a good one. What about time constraints when wanting to pursue their idea? What about the songs that were recorded, but didn't fit in with the album? It's just not that simple. Sometimes demos can eclipse the finished idea. Hank said "For me the most likely explanation for not including any existing Freddie vocals in MIH is that they are shit." Well, DarrenR already mentioned that Greg Brooks began archiving Queen's vaults AFTER Made In Heaven had been put out. Therefore it's probably a very good bet that they didn't know what they'd find during their initial rummage about! And they probably looked for Let Me Live specifically. Wasn't IABD a nice surprise for them to find? So, they're probably spoiled for choice now. Who knows how much... Peace, Adam. |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 17:37 |
I agree with Adam on the 'demos are demos for a reason' subject. a Demo is an unfinished product, So every song used to be a demo once, but they get changed a bit, lyrics get changed and so on. And thats what happened with the MiH songs, I don't think you're going to tell me you think the MiH songs sound unfinished (well, maybe Beautiful Day). If they will take freddie's vocals, change the music and so on. It will sound new, and no one will know it's a discarded song. But I agree if you say _some_ songs remain demos for a reason |
Maz 12.05.2004 18:42 |
Ok, I'll admit that Adam has a point. But I think the mistake is to assume that they'll find something good among the demos. Of all the demos that have snuck out so far, none have appealed to me or made me wish that the band finish them off. Maybe they will find a gem among what's been discovered lately, maybe not. "It will sound new, and no one will know it's a discarded song." To me, much of MIH sounds odd, though maybe not discarded. The fact that Bri and Rog sing on Let Me Live, or that Brian finished Mother Love plainly state that those songs were not completed by Freddie. It's a psychological effect, I guess, but it does bother me to an extent. With that album, we could at least convince ourselves that Freddie tried to finish the album before he died (though that may not be accurate), but a new album now would appear far fetched. And for the record, I would love to be wrong about this. |
FriedChicken 12.05.2004 19:04 |
"Of all the demos that have snuck out so far, none have appealed to me or made me wish that the band finish them off" How many songs have snuck out, I mean totally 'new' songs, no old versions of other songs. about 10? this is just a small part of everything that is in the archives |
Wilki Amieva 12.05.2004 23:17 |
I'm also dying for a full list of the 'preheard' material... ...and also for the recordings (yes, Greg's sexy voice too!) |
Bohardy 13.05.2004 03:52 |
Unless there are some complete (Freddie) vocal takes for truly good unheard of songs in the archive, I fear that this possible new release would be even below the standard of Made In Heaven. All the 'new' songs on that were quite obviously patched together, (the worst offender for me being Let Me Live, where the quantity of Freddie's vocal material seems to extend to about 3 lines) and all had some element of incompleteness to them; as Zeni said, there's something 'odd' going on there. I also agree that none of the demos that have leaked are worthy of being finished, or indeed have enough substance or workable material in them to be released. But Made In Heaven was an absolute labour of love for (mostly) Brian, as it was to be THE tribute and swansong for Freddie. Brian gave pretty much everything to that project for, what, 3 or 4 years? And the results were good and they showed how much it mean to Bri to get that sounding right. But I just can't see the same amount of effort and love being put into a similar project second time around. And if the decent material isn't really there to work with in the first place, which I suspect it isn't, then the finished project cannot be high-grade. |
FriedChicken 13.05.2004 06:55 |
Lets not judge before we can hear it, right? We don't know whats in the archives, maybe there are a few gems who were just left off because of a lack of space on the album |
Plengel 13.05.2004 07:03 |
"I also agree that none of the demos that have leaked are worthy of being finished, or indeed have enough substance or workable material in them to be released." Uhmmm, and what about demo's like "Silver Salmon" or (not sure if it's a real demo or allready a finished song) "Feelings" And this is just stuff that we know of that it's out there somewhere. "But Made In Heaven was an absolute labour of love for (mostly) Brian, as it was to be THE tribute and swansong for Freddie. Brian gave pretty much everything to that project for, what, 3 or 4 years? And the results were good and they showed how much it mean to Bri to get that sounding right" Wasn't it that John and Roger were working on the "Made In Heaven" stuff and that later on got pushed more into it????? |
Adam Baboolal 13.05.2004 07:23 |
The reason I mentioned the whole demo thing is because even little old me has been able to find a number of tracks that I really like and could make into full ideas. Even without adding lyrics. And there have also been piano and vocal tracks that I could take and make into full songs. Even with the irregular timing. It's not that hard to do. I don't understand why people don't get that. I've got near to 3 years worth of stuff that I have recorded and can find plenty good stuff amongst the crap. Queen? Hell. Who knows how much they managed to get down! And I'm sure it's up to their usual high standards. I think people are dismissing it without really thinking about it. Peace, Adam. |
Hank H. 13.05.2004 07:52 |
I hope you are right Adam and FC (if this project will ever happen), but I have one more thing to be worried about, and that is the absence of John Deacon, who to my mind is the only band member who still stands for quality, although (or because!) he never appeared anywhere in the last seven years. If he doesn't get involved, he will have good reasons which are weightier and worthier than Brian's or Roger's who I really don't trust anymore. |
KevMull 13.05.2004 11:09 |
What did they show on QTV? Anything decent or just the usual stuff? |
All Star 13.05.2004 11:21 |
I think Brian and Roger have also got to record some brand new songs to stand alongside any old 'Freddie' demos they may include. And get John involved, he's been out of the picture for far too long... Yeah i remember reading an interview with Brian where he says that Roger and John started work on Made In Heaven while he was in the middle of his Back To The Light tour. They said they were gonna start work "with or without him". Brian was supposedly furious with this and described the intial work on the album by Roger and John as "catastrophic"... |
Maz 13.05.2004 11:46 |
"I don't understand why people don't get that. I've got near to 3 years worth of stuff that I have recorded and can find plenty good stuff amongst the crap. Queen? Hell. Who knows how much they managed to get down! And I'm sure it's up to their usual high standards. I think people are dismissing it without really thinking about it." We think about it; we're just not as optimistic as you are, Adam. Look, if they can find something tremendous or worthwhile in the batch, then I will be the first to praise the CD. But regardless how it sounds or turns out, there is always going to be the stigma that the band had to dig through old demos to release something new, especially now more than 12 years after Freddie's death. Having a CD with Freddie on vocals might sell more to the general public, but I'm not convinced it's the best thing to do. I'd rather they included some of those types of tracks on the box set than on a new CD. |
Pim Derks 13.05.2004 12:59 |
Indeed, I agree with Zeni. The first album with Freddie was ok, because it was presented as a posthumous tribute etc. This album would be just a cash-in, because Queen as Brian and Roger + various other people doesn't sell as good. It can be a great album, but it'll always be 'another album with the dead guy on lead vocals'. The Beatles were supposed to record a third 'new' track too for the Anthology series, but they didn't do it because they felt it wasn't the right thing to do. |
Adam Baboolal 13.05.2004 13:28 |
I'm optimistic because I'm not taking it as a new MIH-type album. It can never be that. In fact you said... "I'd rather they included some of those types of tracks on the box set than on a new CD." For all we know... Hmm..? I have been saying for a long time that they'll do something in the same way that the Beatles did for their anthology. And if they're doing more than a couple of tracks, I'm happy. But I think Fried has a point. We should wait for further news before guessing about its content. Peace, Adam. |
CMG 13.05.2004 13:43 |
Great stuff played this year it seems, according to this guy from the WWRY site: by Mr. Fahrenheit: "This year Jim Beach gave him permission to play archive material provided he spoiled the recording by talking over it. We got to hear some great material including 2 extra vocal sections of Somebody To Love which were never used and have never been heard before. A very strong warning was given that if anything he played this year was bootlegged, Queen Productions would NEVER allow Greg to play anything else at the convention again. We also got to see a large number of unpublished Mick Rock photos as well as a couple of tracks from the forthcoming DVD release of Live At Milton Keynes, including Sheer Heart Attack, which has never been seen before, unless you were at that concert. " |
Maz 13.05.2004 15:25 |
"We should wait for further news before guessing about its content." Ah, come on now. What's the fun in being a Queen fan if you can't jump to conclusions :) |
Pim Derks 13.05.2004 15:41 |
Great, seems like Milton Keynes really is going to be the complete thing! |
Penetration_Guru 15.05.2004 13:40 |
1. Full Milton Keynes. original Tube broadcast 75 minutes + 49 minutes unseen concert footage. No idea on extras. 2. Box set isn't even on the horizon. Greg hasn't been working on it, he says, so we may as well give up. I certainly have. 3. the Coming Soon demo was a distorted guitar instrumental. The chords for the chorus made it very obvious. 4. I didn't hear anything about MIH 2. I did hear a rumour of "Face It Alone" getting the MIH treatment and being a single. 5. GVH3 doesn't seem to be an active project either. Lupton seemed to feel that they didn't have enough material. 6. Older DVDs than '79 seem unlikely, given the lack of "recognisable hits" for the record company to see it as commercially viable. |
Daburcor? 15.05.2004 13:56 |
"Ah, come on now. What's the fun in being a Queen fan if you can't jump to conclusions :)" Really! I was under the assumption that that WAS what made you a Queen fan! |
YourValentine 15.05.2004 14:05 |
Yes, the anthology is more unlikely than ever, sad but true. "5. GVH3 doesn't seem to be an active project either. Lupton seemed to feel that they didn't have enough material." Since when is "not enough material" an obstacle? And if there was no GVH 3 planned, why in the world didn't they include the Innuendo video clips into GVH 2? What kind of marketing is that supposed to be... |
Daburcor? 15.05.2004 14:11 |
The kind that REALLY pisses me off, of course! LOL! |
Daz85 15.05.2004 14:55 |
I agree on the last point, though the rumour is that they are working on 3 songs from the middle 80's. As for GVH3 - they are just gonna have to use the post-Freddie singles, live appearances or solo clips. Making-of's for the Innuenod videos are no problem. They probably arn't working on it now since Milton Keynes is the only DVD project for this year. |
All Star 15.05.2004 18:35 |
The Box sets will be released some day, i think its probably gonna be one of the last things they release. As for GVH3 they should wait until they have a few more videos before releasing it. There would be no point releasing Video Hits 3 now only to then release a few "new" singles a few months later. |
FriedChicken 16.05.2004 05:52 |
I rather have 3 completed songs than 150 starts of songs on a box set |
Banquo 16.05.2004 06:42 |
I totally forgot about the Somebody To Love vocal it was fantastic. The funniest thing was probably Mick Rock indirectly slagging off Jim Hutton by praising Mary to the hilt for her behavior after Freddie died and Jim Hutton watching it all from the side of the dance floor. All the people in the back elevated seats turned to Jim and watched his reaction, I know because I did it and his face was like thunder. |
Michael Allred 16.05.2004 21:47 |
There is plenty of material for GVH3 DVD (unless they're refering to bonus material but I don't care too much about that. Just the surround sound and audio commentaries are enough for me.) |
The Real Wizard 17.05.2004 02:29 |
FriedChicken wrote: I rather have 3 completed songs than 150 starts of songs on a box setYou'd rather hear a complete song from the AKOM era that sucked enough not to make it onto the album, and not 8 takes of It's Late in the making? |
Kai Kurgan 17.05.2004 06:35 |
Surely there´s enough stuff for GVH3. If you consider a similar format like GVH 2 it could possibly look like this: The Innuendo-Section: Innuendo (plus Making of) Innuendo (Uncensored Version) I´m going slightly mad (plus Making of) Headlong (plus Making of) The Show must go on Days of our lives (plus Making of) Days of our lives (Disney-Version) The MiH-Section: Heaven for everyone (2 Clips – DoRo and British Film Academy) A Winter´s Tale Let me live You don´t fool me Too much love will kill you No-one but you (plus Making of) The Queen + - Section: Under Pressure (+ Rah Mix) (plus Making of as featured on Maxi-CD) The Show must go on (+ Elton John) Somebody to love (+ George Michael) We will rock you (+ Five) Another one bites the Dust (+ Pras) |
pma 17.05.2004 06:45 |
Now the real question is, does the full Milton Keynes still have the original screech by Freddie on FBGirls or not... |
Adam Baboolal 17.05.2004 08:05 |
Cut those last two songs and I'm sold Kai! "You'd rather hear a complete song from the AKOM era that sucked enough not to make it onto the album, and not 8 takes of It's Late in the making?" Who said it sucked? Could just be that it didn't fit in. Look at " I Go Crazy" from the Works sessions. Not included because it was thought to be too much like Hammer To Fall. So who knows? I don't think they'll have been showing the gems at the conventions. I think maybe, and this is a big maybe, but I think they're showing the tracks that may be in question for the boxset. I don't mean all the tracks shown off, though. But it's all conjecture, so I'll stop that! lol Peace, Adam. |
The Real Wizard 17.05.2004 11:32 |
pma wrote: Now the real question is, does the full Milton Keynes still have the original screech by Freddie on FBGirls or not...I'll bet you a case of beer, it'll be overdubbed. Adam Baboolal wrote: Who said it sucked? Could just be that it didn't fit in. Look at " I Go Crazy" from the Works sessions. Not included because it was thought to be too much like Hammer To Fall. So who knows?I fully realize I was taking the extreme. :) But the truth is, I'm equally interested in "new" songs as well as old songs in the making. |
JellaC 17.05.2004 12:54 |
I was disappointed there were no completely new tracks but just old/different versions of existing songs. But it was very cool to hear those, of course. I never did get my pint for knowing it was Coming Soon. Cheapskates. |
Shane Jazz 17.05.2004 13:19 |
Could it possible that Brian and Roger and trying to polish off God Is Heavy? Brian could easily do a small guitar riff every time Freddie sniffles... ;) |
andYYY 17.05.2004 17:43 |
omg!! it was you kirsty! rock on girl!! one second, too, wasn't greg brookes so embarassed after his confidence that it would take longer, and i agree, they lied!! cheapskates indeed! |
Simoriah 18.05.2004 17:40 |
Banquo, I totally felt for Jim when Mick Rock was praising Mary. We were sitting at the front of the seats, right near the door, very near to Jim. He knew Mary way back when and probably doesn't know Jim, so his point of view will of course be towards Mary, but it was a bit unfair to say it in front of everyone. Maybe he didn't know Jim was there. Jim seemed OK the next evening though when I spoke to him, although he was totally cabbaged. |
AlexRocks 22.05.2004 00:35 |
I have been hell bent since 1992 when I was 14 years old for the box sets to come out. I now have changed my mind and think that they (just the first release itself) should wait until 2010. The reason is because I think the catelog should be released as double c.d.s with whatever bonus features the way Brian May recently has said. This is so that that there will be a few years after their release before any of the boxsets and so the boxsets themselves will have complete information and material on the actual catelog itself. The reason I think 2006 for the catelog re-release is because at least in the U.S. it then will have been 15 years or so after the re-releases on Hollywood Records and 20 years after their last tour. They need to tour that year to build up their popularity more for these boxsets to sell as the F.M. one went out of print within the year of its release (then again maybe things can be re-released in different formats over the years if need be). They especially need to tour in the U.S. to help their popularity. As it is Hollywood Records have already said that they do not plan on selling the boxsets except maybe having 3 c.d. sets of some of the material. Also other groups have been touring for a good many years before releasing something new after reforming for the first time in years. Whether it has been The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Black Sabbath, Page and Plant, or now Van Halen as their current tour will be for a new compilation and then next year a new c.d. which they will continue touring for. You all don't want these releases to be released and then go out of print in one year or the first few years even do you? P.S.: This is what we call glorious news folks...three box sets with eight c.d.s each and FIFTEEN more c.d.s added to the catelog re-release PLUS an 8 c.d. boxset of live material and an eight c.d. boxset each for Brian and Roger covering their solo careers...even though 2010 is a number of years away I would suggest we all start saving up because we are going to have a number of years of buying quite a bit in the years to come!!!! |
Wilki Amieva 22.05.2004 11:15 |
Sorry Alex, your message seems to be very interesting but I didn't manage to understand a word from it! |
IvoDutch 22.05.2004 13:56 |
Somehow I think that Brian, Roger and John do not get along very well at the moment. John has been out of the picture for a long time. The last thing I heard from him was slagging the "We are the champions" project with Robbie Williams. Roger has openly criticised Brian for beeing to involved with the musical, and not wanting to do new stuff. Brian and Roger shared commentary on GVH1 (which was very funny), but they did not on GVH2. Somehow I think that they've sort of grown apart over the last years. They made music together for more than 20 years, and they seem to lack creativity en and well, a bit of guts to try something new. |
Pim Derks 22.05.2004 17:19 |
John and B+R still have contact. However, John has chosen to get out of the spotlight (he quit Queen officially in 1997) so they don't talk daily/weekly I think. He was however at the muscial premiere and someone posted a few days ago that he supposedly also worked on the Game DVDA. Brian and Roger get along very well, they've been working extremely close together in the last few years on the musical and other projects (46664 etc). Dunno why the GVH2 commentary was recorded separately, probably due to Brian's busy schedule or something. It's just that Roger wants to tour/record and Brian wants to expand the whole musical thing. I think Roger gets bored with something very easily, maybe that was also the reason why he was the first member of the band to do some serious solo work outside Queen. |
AlexRocks 22.05.2004 17:38 |
Actually folks John Deacon was in the group in 1998 for the performance of "The Show Must Go On" which is ended up on "Greatest Hits III". I think people seem to give the impression that he is out but it is not like they have really done anything new yet so who knows in the long run? Plus who says he wouldn't join again after B & R did do something new, eh? |
The Real Wizard 22.05.2004 21:36 |
AlexRocks wrote: Actually folks John Deacon was in the group in 1998 for the performance of "The Show Must Go On" which is ended up on "Greatest Hits III". I think people seem to give the impression that he is out but it is not like they have really done anything new yet so who knows in the long run? Plus who says he wouldn't join again after B & R did do something new, eh?That performances was 1997... he quit just a bit after that. And I don't think he's coming back. He has made it clear that Queen isn't Queen without Freddie, and he's done. He did a few things after Queen, like the FM tribute, Made In Heaven, No-One But You, and that last performance of The Show Must Go On in '97. If he's happy being a stay-at-home grandpa, then let him. He deserves it. |
Pim Derks 23.05.2004 05:35 |
"I think people seem to give the impression that he is out but it is not like they have really done anything new yet so who knows in the long run?" Actually, this was confirmed by one of the admins on Queenonline - John officially retired Queen in 1997. He wrote a letter to B+R saying that he didn't mind them using the Queen name and that he would support any project they would do, but that he didn't feel like being in a rockband anymore etc. |