Mr Mercury 10.04.2004 18:50 |
Here's something to get you thinking. Lets assume Freddie kept a load of diary's and just before his death, someone stole them and then sold the rights to them to a publisher who then printed them. Would you then buy them because your a fan of Freddie and collect everything to do with him, or burn them because these were the personal and private thoughts of him? Now be honest in your answer here. As for me, I'd burn them but I am just curious to know what you guys might think cause I often think that certain questions that keep arising could be well and truly answered i.e what was Bo Rhap about or who gave him Aids, etc. Dave |
rhapsody__87 10.04.2004 19:02 |
Oh dear, I hate these kinds of questions but I'd keep the diaries and stuff... and then I'd probably read them. I know he'd want his privacy but they're probably worth too much to burn them, you know? Ergg... |
deleted user 10.04.2004 19:46 |
I would love to read them. So maybe I would know him better. Good question though. |
Mr Mercury 10.04.2004 19:56 |
Thanks Matt Dave |
Sir Archie 'Tiffany' Leach 10.04.2004 19:57 |
Well if they were getting published anyway I'd read them. Seeing as Freddie is still alive according to Fatty this is purely speculation. |
Into La Ment 10.04.2004 20:03 |
God, that's a really tough question. Honestly, if they were published, my curiosity would probably get the better of me after a while, and I'd end up reading them... I think they'd be rather interesting, but I guess there are some things I'd rather not know... the meaning of Bo Rhap, for example. It'd rather spoil it I think, but that's just my opinion. |
Lester Burnham 10.04.2004 22:08 |
I'm sure if someone stole them, Queen Productions would sue the ever-living daylights out of the publishing company that eventually published them, to the point that they would be retracted from sale and everyone who had bought a copy would be banished to the outer ranks of Hell. But, hypothetically speaking, yes I would. |
MexQueenFM 10.04.2004 23:39 |
I would read them |
deleted user 10.04.2004 23:45 |
I'd probably not read them...I'd hate to think of someone going through my personal diaries after I died. *goes and burns her own diaries straight away* ;^) |
Mayboy 11.04.2004 06:36 |
I would read them too |
Mr Mercury 11.04.2004 07:22 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: Well if they were getting published anyway I'd read them. Seeing as Freddie is still alive according to Fatty this is purely speculation.LOL Sir Archie - I forgot about that Dave |
chancelloramethyst 11.04.2004 11:31 |
Bizarro iGSM wrote: I'm sure if someone stole them, Queen Productions would sue the ever-living daylights out of the publishing company that eventually published them, to the point that they would be retracted from sale and everyone who had bought a copy would be banished to the outer ranks of Hell. But, hypothetically speaking, yes I would.Then again, at the rate Brian's going he might just print them--more money for Queen Productions! |
geeksandgeeks 11.04.2004 13:54 |
Well, I already violated one man's privacy by reading his diaries nine or so years after he died (and they were very interesting and extremely helpful), why not another's? I trust I don't have to explain who I'm talking about. Curiosity would get the better of me, because it always does. But the likelihood of it happening is very slim, as Freddie was Mr. Private Person. |
Mr Mercury 11.04.2004 16:00 |
geeksandgeeks wrote: Well, I already violated one man's privacy by reading his diaries nine or so years after he died (and they were very interesting and extremely helpful), why not another's? I trust I don't have to explain who I'm talking about. Curiosity would get the better of me, because it always does. But the likelihood of it happening is very slim, as Freddie was Mr. Private Person.No probs geeks, at least you gave your answer. And if anyone's curious as to why I thought of this question in the first place. It was because I was watching "An Audience With Kenneth Williams" on the Biography channel and happened to remember that this happened to him. Dave |
Daburcor? 11.04.2004 16:09 |
I wouldn't. No way. That kind of thing is WAY too personal. I didn't think it was a good idea to print Kurt Cobain's diaries either, It's quite disrespectful to the deceased. I for one would feel violated if anyone were to read my diaries, journals, notebooks, etc... That's just wrong. So, No. I'd not even give it a first glance. Manda, Keep that fire burning! I have some stuff to throw in. LOL! |
geeksandgeeks 11.04.2004 17:58 |
Maestro Corson wrote: I wouldn't. No way. That kind of thing is WAY too personal. I didn't think it was a good idea to print Kurt Cobain's diaries either, It's quite disrespectful to the deceased. I for one would feel violated if anyone were to read my diaries, journals, notebooks, etc... That's just wrong. So, No. I'd not even give it a first glance. Manda, Keep that fire burning! I have some stuff to throw in. LOL!Actually, I thought it was a good idea in retrospect to publish the Cobain diaries. I had doubts about it at first, but upon reading them - well, let's just say it gave me a whole new reason to hate Richard Lee. It made a view people see him as a human being rather than a god. In his case, we needed that. Oh, did we ever need that. Freddie, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. He was an odd character. I don't think there was anyone who fully understood him - I don't think he understood himself. Reading his diaries might just freak a lot of people out. But for we hardcore fans, it might answer a lot of questions. |
dragonzflame 11.04.2004 21:26 |
I'd read them. Hell, I don't think Anne Frank is too bothered about people studying her diaries at school, and I don't think Freddie's hypothetical diaries are any different. |
Adam Baboolal 11.04.2004 21:39 |
I have to admit, Geeks, you have sparked my interest in your answers. I probably would read them for the curiosity and the knowledge of who he really was. I've only ever read one book on Freddie/Queen and that was Lesley-Ann Jones' book. This kind of stuff is always going to be interesting and I'd love to understand him more than I do. Hear the funny stories and generally hear about what he thought. Peace, Adam. |
Lord Blackadder 12.04.2004 08:01 |
id read them. Who cares what people think when your dead? |
-fatty- 2850 12.04.2004 08:15 |
I already own Freddie's diaries and will be publishing them on Queenzone just as soon as I have finished writing them. fatty. |
MenthylatedGin 12.04.2004 14:34 |
Thinking that Freddie wrote the diary, he would want someone to read them. Just from my personal experience, I've always wrote my diaries in hope that someone would read them, and comfort me and my problem. So, I would read them. That way, I could know more about Freddie and the enviroment that he lived in.Then all of his fans could understand him better, and see a diffrent aspect to him, and his music. Although, that would all depend on what he wrote about. Although, I would seriously doubt that Freddie would have ever written a diary. So, I doubt Queen fans will ever have to worry about this event. I think we should enjoy what Freddie gave us willingly. His music. Sorry for being so seriouse! ^^; Here's another question: What would you do if you found out the person that gave Freddie AIDS was still alive? ( Highly doubtful...) |
geeksandgeeks 12.04.2004 16:00 |
If my own theory on this is correct, Gin, he's not. But if he were, I'd leave him be. People really didn't know what was going on in the '80s. (S)he can't be blamed. |
Fairyfeller 13.04.2004 10:32 |
This my friends, is what they call al dilemma... No I wouldn't read them, but yes, if I would be given a copy, or something like that, I would keep it. No tread it though, I'd feel really uncomfortable. |
Kuku 14.04.2004 02:41 |
fatty wrote: I already own Freddie's diaries and will be publishing them on Queenzone just as soon as I have finished writing them. fatty.LOL!!! This already makes me laugh. What would you do if you found out the person that gave Freddie AIDS was still alive? ( Highly doubtful...)This made me laugh, for a wholly different reason. But to answer the question, I wouldn't do anything. |
~Silje~ 14.04.2004 15:33 |
To be frank, I would read it at once and I would not even feel guilty about it. As for Freddie, he is dead. It'd be another thing if he'd still be alive, and someone read his diaries. I'd hate it if someone read mine, I'd feel violated, true, but if I did not destroy them before dying - my bad. I anyway won't care much at that point. As for what someone else said here, it is true that very many write diaries having some hope that someday, someone will find them and understand and remember them. I write because of that, too - it's a paradox that I yet want to keep it a secret and don't wish for anyone but myself to read them. Complicated we are... :-) However, I must admit that I would read any diary I'd come across, without thinking too much about it beforehand. There's just the curiousity and the wish to understand someone else's inner thoughts, problems and secrets. Of course, my moral tells me it is wrong, but yet I know that I'm very capable to violate someone's privacy like that. If I came across a good friend's diary, most probably I'd have a peek into it. |
Mr Mercury 14.04.2004 17:01 |
Nice post Silje. As with all the posts it seemed honest to me. Dave p.s nice profile pic btw... |
Josuè 14.04.2004 17:03 |
I'd read them. Just because I'd want to know him better. But, yet, it's too private. |
Fenderek 15.04.2004 09:14 |
I would read them, wouldn't feel guilty... I suppose... Good question though...! |
Pim Derks 15.04.2004 10:22 |
As long as they wouldn't include stories about his sexual life/fantasies, I'd be interested in reading them :D |
Pheobe 16.04.2004 14:28 |
"As long as they wouldn't include stories about his sexual life/fantasies, I'd be interested in reading them :D" Assuming the diaries did exist, I would imagine that they probably would contain such entries. And for the record, I dont think I would read them. |
~Silje~ 16.04.2004 19:36 |
Mr Mercury wrote: Nice post Silje. As with all the posts it seemed honest to me. Dave p.s nice profile pic btw...Thank you, thank you! *takes deep bow and blushes slightly* |
Mr Mercury 16.04.2004 19:39 |
Np Silje, my pleasure Dave |
Queen_Bee_16 18.04.2004 11:09 |
i would probably read them just because i am so very interested in how he lived his life and all...who knows..he might have been cryin out for help and nobody would've noticed. *~Katrina~* |
Pheobe 18.04.2004 17:55 |
"i would probably read them just because i am so very interested in how he lived his life and all...who knows..he might have been cryin out for help and nobody would've noticed." Good point |
gesiit 18.04.2004 19:03 |
Difficult choice, but i think i could'nt burn them, it would be to me as if i'd hurt Freddie... |
-fatty- 2850 19.04.2004 13:07 |
Gimme another week or so and you won't want to burn the diaries. You'll want to burn me. fatty. |
Queen4ever 19.04.2004 15:02 |
I'll probably keep them and read them. When your gone are you really going to care if someone reads your diary. |
Mr Mercury 19.04.2004 15:57 |
fatty wrote: Gimme another week or so and you won't want to burn the diaries. You'll want to burn me. fatty.LOL fatty Dave |
Mr Mercury 24.07.2007 05:53 |
Ressurecting this thread as Im curious to see what the newer members of this board might think. As before, be honest with your answers..... |
thomasquinn 32989 24.07.2007 06:59 |
Lets assume Freddie kept a load of diary's and just before his death, someone stole them and then sold the rights to them to a publisher who then printed them. Would you then buy them because your a fan of Freddie and collect everything to do with him, or burn them because these were the personal and private thoughts of him?NEVER burn ANY book. Burning books is totalitarianism already: it means censorship. |
The Fairy King 24.07.2007 10:08 |
I'd read them. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 24.07.2007 10:43 |
I would read them... If I read stuff that was too personal, I would probably skip it, but, yeah, I don't think I'd be able to help my curiosity. |
Dusta 24.07.2007 12:32 |
I do not believe I posess the self discipline required to resist reading them, unfortunately. |
StormtrooperInStilettos 24.07.2007 20:15 |
Yeah... I'd read them too. |
Sebastian 24.07.2007 21:23 |
I wouldn't. Otoh I would read Shakespeare's diaries. Any chance you've got them, fatty? |
rosedewitt 25.07.2007 03:45 |
MenthylatedGin wrote: Thinking that Freddie wrote the diary, he would want someone to read them. Just from my personal experience, I've always wrote my diaries in hope that someone would read them, and comfort me and my problem. [....] Here's another question: What would you do if you found out the person that gave Freddie AIDS was still alive? ( Highly doubtful...)i agree. i think, nobody, who really wants to keep totally priavcy would ever write a diary. and if he had written a diary, i would also read it. well, what a question. i'd do nothing, of course. i can't imagine there was an aids infected person who said "yeah i'm gonna kill this freddie mercury with aids". freddie himself is as responsible for getting the virus as the other person he got it from. |
john bodega 25.07.2007 09:00 |
Man.... You guys all have your arses covered anyway. In life, he was extremely private ; on the subject of his own mortality, he basically didn't give much of a shit as to what happened after he was gone..... there's something for both camps, and all of it comes from the same guy. |
thomasquinn 32989 25.07.2007 09:28 |
Sebastian wrote: I wouldn't. Otoh I would read Shakespeare's diaries. Any chance you've got them, fatty?You want to read the diaries of a man who probably did not write the plays credited to him? |
M.H 25.07.2007 10:01 |
Nah, I wouldn't read them. I would, if I was given them, keep them somewhere safe, and maybe later in my life I would read them. I'm reading Peter Freestones book at the momement, and that is quite enjoyable, and is quite an insight into Freddies life. But, it is from Peters point of view, so Freddies life and mind written in his own words, it would be wonderful for him to freely express himself through words only. But as others have already said, he expresses himself best through his music, and thats enough for me =) M.H |
Mr Mercury 25.07.2007 11:02 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Ok so maybe I wont burn them then. Still wouldnt read them though.Lets assume Freddie kept a load of diary's and just before his death, someone stole them and then sold the rights to them to a publisher who then printed them. Would you then buy them because your a fan of Freddie and collect everything to do with him, or burn them because these were the personal and private thoughts of him?NEVER burn ANY book. Burning books is totalitarianism already: it means censorship. |
Micrówave 25.07.2007 12:49 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: ***** burn ANY ****. Burning ***** is *************** already: it ***** censorship.There, that's better. Anyway, I'd sell 'em to the highest bidder, and of course keep a certified copy. But I'd leave out a few pages of the "good stuff" and give them to Greg Brooks for the Archives. |
Sebastian 26.07.2007 08:12 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Exactly! That's how the entire Oxfordians vs Stratfordians vs Baconians thing would come to an end.Sebastian wrote: I wouldn't. Otoh I would read Shakespeare's diaries. Any chance you've got them, fatty?You want to read the diaries of a man who probably did not write the plays credited to him? |
Kate4Freddie8 29.08.2007 20:53 |
Well...say if there was one and only one copy of his dairies i wouldn't read them but wouldn't burn them either...this is because Freddie probably felt enough to write them and they might of ment alot to him.. so i would keep them but not read them! :D |
beautifulsoup 29.08.2007 23:10 |
Hmmm. I'd buy them for sure, and then *think* about whether or not I should read them. Then, after 6 months or so, maybe I'd break down and read them. I bought "Mercury and Me" on Ebay about a year and a half ago, and haven't read it...but I somehow don't think I will. Probably not a good example to use as comparison, but oh, well. Maybe a better example: all those "personal" video snippets that showed up on QZ about a year ago; I downloaded them - but then waited for months to view them...and now I kind of wish I hadn't. Of course, they're on YouTube now. |
deleted user 30.08.2007 11:03 |
If it was published, it's not like burning one copy would make any difference. I would just stay away from it and ignore it. Sure, he's dead, but that doesn't make ME any more comfortable with the idea. Now, if I had the only copy, I might consider burning it - but I after five seconds of consideration, I think I would give it to Ms. Mary Austin if she was still alive and let her do whatever with it. I've never read any books about him, never seen the leaked home videos, I just don't want to. |
Donna13 30.08.2007 11:54 |
Micrówave wrote:Me too. I think Greg deserves to own the archives, especially since he has been living in the archives for so long.ThomasQuinn wrote: ***** burn ANY ****. Burning ***** is *************** already: it ***** censorship.There, that's better. Anyway, I'd **** give **** Greg Brooks **** the Archives. Anyway, I probably wouldn't buy a stolen diary. It would be like buying anything else that was stolen. But, if Mary, or whoever is making decisions regarding Freddie's estate, sued the publisher and got the money from the sales, then I would have to buy it and see exactly what Freddie wanted to write down. That is because I believe that celebrities (or adults) don't write things in their diaries that they don't want to be a matter of public record eventually. However, if something is too personal, then it should get burned. Also, I think it takes a certain type of person to want to record their life on paper and I don't think Freddie was that type. I think Brian is more the type to reflect on things. Just my opinion. Don't know for sure. |
john bodega 31.08.2007 12:10 |
I'd only read them in total privacy so I could whip my dong out when appropriate. |
val 29467 17.09.2007 06:11 |
luckily, AIDS was descoverd in the 1980's and Bohe Rhap was written in 1975... |
kdj2hot 17.09.2007 12:48 |
<font color=FF9900>Mr Mercury</font> wrote: Here's something to get you thinking. Lets assume Freddie kept a load of diary's and just before his death, someone stole them and then sold the rights to them to a publisher who then printed them. Would you then buy them because your a fan of Freddie and collect everything to do with him, or burn them because these were the personal and private thoughts of him? Now be honest in your answer here. As for me, I'd burn them but I am just curious to know what you guys might think cause I often think that certain questions that keep arising could be well and truly answered i.e what was Bo Rhap about or who gave him Aids, etc. DaveIt's a silly small sighted question. Freddie is a historical figure. Even if you dont release them publically they shouldnt be burned. The presidence set include diaries of people like George Washington or Ben Franklin that historians read (I could say Anne Frank but that seems too cheap) as an insight of what a historical figure was going through during a struggle like that would be too valuable for history. Though that point of view cheapens Freddie as a man, a real human being. #hich is probably what he wanted (who's to say what he really wanted for sure because you're not in his head nor am I but I assume he did appreciate privacy from his actions) but its a case of taking the good with the bad. He probably wanted to make his mark on history and he did just that, the price to pay (it's debatable if its a small or large price) is that things such as a hypothetical private diary would be of interest to people. Think about it, if he did windows or was private decorator or whatever, would anyone care about his diaries? Again, it's taking the good with the bad. I believe the reason why is more than just tabloid trash, gossip instinct most people have. I think a lot of people would be more interested in getting close as possible inside the head of genius. The same reason a diary of Mozart would be highly interesting to many on a historic level. |
Farrokh Mercury 17.09.2007 23:00 |
I think I would try to stay away, and would probably last a mounth, max.... Then I would probably sit down with plans of only reading a couple of chapters, and have it finished withen the day. Same thing happened to me with Harry Potter 7.Really didn't want to read it, but I gave in after a day. Then again, if I was in one of my moods, I might just track down the person that stole the diarys, and get his published...(oh, the taste of revenge) |
carboengine 18.09.2007 13:28 |
Wasn't it Freddie who said he didn't read books - it was a waste of time - and, oh, he was going to get in trouble for saying that. I can't imagine him writing a diary because he didn't care about the past - it was all about now and the future. What I wish were available are outtakes of videos/DVDs and/or home movies that had snippets of his sense of humor. I have read that directors and others thought he was the funniest man they had ever met, and by the end of a session their sides ached from laughing so much. Would I read his personal diary? No, yes, yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, I don't know. When famous people have a lot written ABOUT them, sometimes it is refreshing to get the person's TRUTH. |
Mr Mercury 18.09.2007 14:56 |
kdj2hot, its not a "silly small sighted question" at all - its purely a hypothetical question about what YOU would do based on assumption that Freddie wrote diaries for himself and you had them. Its got nothing to do with Freddie as a historical figure, or to cheapen him as a man. Nothing at all. |
The Real Wizard 19.09.2007 00:09 |
Just look at the first two pages of this topic, and see how many good posters have left the forum. A shame, really. |
tarik 20.09.2007 07:26 |
i would fucking read them immediately, because freddie is so mysterious, and i wanna know anything bout him |
Stoner 03.11.2007 20:33 |
Uh YEAH, I would read them. I'd probably frame them and hang them on my wall. When I got tired of them I'd pack em up and sell em on Ebay so everyone else can read. And so would everybody else on here who replied that they would burn them. What a lie. I would feel GUILTY about reading my sister's personal diary. I would feel GUILTY about going through my brother's room looking for booze and porno mags just to rat him out. I would feel GUILTY if my mom told me a secret and then I went and told other people. I would feel GUILTY and sad if I found out something about my dad he didnt want me to know about. Why? Because I have deep emotional feelings for these people. But as much as I love and respect Freddie Mercury's talent and.....his gorgeous looks..................... I have no emotional ties to the man. I have no deep feelings for him. He's dead, died before I was born and there's nothing left of him. He can't be hurt by anything now. Anyone who says they would feel GUILTY about reading his personal stuff is LYING, otherwise you wouldn't be on queenzone discussing him. Just that fact alone means we're all just a tad bit obsessed. And that obsession wouldn't allow us to do something as ludicrous as burn his personal diary. That to me, would be sadder than just reading it. |
Barbie Jupiter 06.11.2007 10:34 |
I also think he hasn't wrote anything.. But if there was a diary of him.. I really don't know:S I think we already know so much about him, i guess he wanted details to stay in closet. if he wrote... I doubt he will write in his diary what was he thinking when writing Boh Rap (it was the purpuse to make us confused! he would never mention this in the diaryXD), we might probably know.. ehh.. WHO-WHEN-WHERE?XD WAh and about his loves, too, of course. Well maybe if he was writing f.ex. of their rehearsals and tours and funny (or just unforgettable) coincidences during them, it would be fun, i would love to know those details:] And how they started to knowing each other, about songs, how the ideas appeared(except Boh Rap..XD). I think we can "know" Freddie through his songs perfectly. He wrote them as clearly as it can be. as about Boh Rap, in my opinion it's kind of a "random thoughts" song, and most probably about him? Though i will never understand why "mama killed the man". And i have a question about Freddie, that i'm really curious about (haven't read any book about him yet) - how frequently he was seeing his family when he started carieer(mom, dad and sister)? Was he visiting them at all? They lived in Londond, too, after moving, for a long time? |
Stoner 11.11.2007 05:51 |
Barbie Jupiter wrote: Though i will never understand why "mama killed the man".Huh? Can't you see that he's telling his mother HE killed a man. "Mama, just killed a man" translates to "Mama, I just killed a man" |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 10:52 |
Ooooo...no, no and NO! You can't read no-ones diary!! That's bad! Private thing. I guess I would burn it. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 26.02.2008 17:55 |
One things for sure.They'd have a big "Parental Guidance" sticker on them.Can you imagine if they were made into a tv documentary.Would you watch it? |
Mr Mercury 26.02.2008 20:30 |
If it was based on Fatty's version of the diaries I'd watch them link At least you would get a laugh. |
unknown 27.02.2008 08:03 |
If it were his diaries, then no. But if it were his memoires, yes... Imagine Freddie did plan to publish his memoires with thoughts about God and the world - being and intelligent person - and someone 'destroyed' them after his death... |
Roger Meadows Tailor 29.02.2008 18:54 |
<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: If it were his diaries, then no. But if it were his memoires, yes... Imagine Freddie did plan to publish his memoires with thoughts about God and the world - being and intelligent person - and someone 'destroyed' them after his death...Daria.Thats an interesting thought.But i think that Freddie,being an intelligent person,would have entrusted someone with the job of publishing these memoires.Probably thats why he did not do that. |
QueenZeppelin 05.05.2008 20:58 |
I'd read them, but I would not buy them. The voyeur in me would be too curious, but the moralist in me could not feed that supply and demand. |
luthorn 05.05.2008 21:22 |
rhapsody__87 wrote: Oh dear, I hate these kinds of questions but I'd keep the diaries and stuff... and then I'd probably read them. I know he'd want his privacy but they're probably worth too much to burn them, you know? Ergg...Nowdays there's a fad for sex tapes not diaries. I mean who does diaries nowdays! Unwanted girls, right. |