QueenZone discussion #312738
DVD to wave format
| The Real Wizard 31.01.2004 12:09 |
I've got a few Queen shows on DVD-R that I'd like to have on audio cd as well, so could anyone recommend me some software to rip from DVD to wave? (Preferably for free download)... ;) |
| NoOneButYou1975 31.01.2004 12:15 |
lol i think you mean wav format? |
| Maz 31.01.2004 12:25 |
I've heard that Smartripper does a good job. I've not used it myself, though I did find it online. I just haven't taken the time to figure out how to take the VOB files and convert them to wav. |
| Guy 31.01.2004 12:43 |
The first step would be to rip the VOB files to the hard drive. After that you could extract the audio from those files and output it to MP3, AC3 or WAV. The method I have in mind is: 1. Rip the VOB files to the hard drive using SmartRipper 2. Decode the VOB files and output them to a big WAV file(s), using DVD2AVI If the DVD you're trying to rip is not divided into tracks (chapters) you'll also need to seperate the songs inside the big WAV. Ripping the VOB files: link Extracting the audio: link Note: You need at least 10 GBs for the VOBs and another gig for the WAV(s). You also HAVE to have a DVD-Rom drive or your PC won't be able to read the DVD. |
| Rien 31.01.2004 12:51 |
btw, WAV is the abbreviation of WAVE. Those files are originally called WAVE files. |
| The Man On The Prowl 31.01.2004 13:13 |
I use the following programs: - Smart Ripper to rip the VOB file on the hard disk (it also allows you to select just the audio track). - AC3 Decoder to decode the VOB file into WAV of MP3. It works very well. |
| David Jones 31.01.2004 13:21 |
I simply have a stereo lead which records the output of the speaker and returns it into the line input which is then recorded by CoolEdit Pro. This topic has been brought up before and I remember people saying it was very time consuming and took up alot of memory and that simply recording like this was probably faster and easier. However, things are probably faster now... |
| Guy 31.01.2004 13:44 |
As a matter of fact, they're much faster. I still remember the days when it took 12 hours or more to make a VCD out of a DVD. The method you're suggesting, David, is like transfering a tape to a CD - you need to play the tape fully for it to be recorded. Today, it's possible to extract the data without having to play it at real time (it's played, but very fast and only internally), which saves time and allows you to use the PC for other purposes as well. |
| inu-liger 31.01.2004 13:47 |
Well, it depends if it is a PCM or Dolby AC3 file you want to convert to wave. If it is PCM, you should find a program called VOBrator (that is the name, seriously), which will demux DTS, Dolby, PCM and M2V streams (it will also make a WAV out of DTS, but I don't know how to use DTS WAV files) Then open the PCM as a 48kHz 16 bit signed byte swapped file in Goldwave or any other program that will open byte swapped files. If it is Dolby, use DVD2AVI and use the mixdown option. Or if you're lucky to find an illegal free copy, get Sonic Foundry Dolby Digital encoder, open the 2.0 DD file and save it as a wave, and open the wave as a 48khz 16 bit signed wav file |
| Guy 31.01.2004 14:00 |
Actually, the newest version of DVD2AVI works for both PCM and Dolby. I tried it myself. |
| pma 31.01.2004 14:21 |
The easiest method. Smart Ripper - Enable stream processing, select the stream you wish to RIP. This means basicly DE-SELECT the video files (VOB) and just leave the desired audio track selected (2Ch audio..). Then perform DIRECT STREAM COPY. There's no reason to rip video if you just want the audiostream. To downsample 48khz to 44.1, I recommend R8brain (has a GUI) or SSRC (commandline utility). Both fast and produce great results. All the software used for this method is free. Type the names in google... |
| Adam Baboolal 31.01.2004 18:36 |
And if you're extracting the ac3 file or DTS, can you get the separate tracks? i.e. 5.1 Adam. |
| pma 31.01.2004 20:14 |
IF you ment seperate channels ?? You can't get the seperate tracks with SmartRipper. If you first extract a DTS stream, you'll get a dts wav file. If you want to separate that into 6 mono-waves you have to re-parse the stream with DTS Parser (freeware) and then use a commandline utility called AZIDTS (freeware) (with software dts decoder such as Intervideo Windvd Platinum installed, payware) to separate the dts file into 6 wav files . You can still find this guide in Google's cache. link The 1st method on the guide is best ignored, skip to the faster one with AZIDTS and DTSPARSER. For Dolby Digital, I think the tool of choice was Besweet (never done DD just DTS though ) link and the Doom9 forums had all necessary guides and instructions about ripping DD and re-using streams. |
| The Real Wizard 31.01.2004 23:38 |
Thanks everyone for your help! No need to worry about DTS here, because the DVDs I'll be ripping from will be in stereo at best. |
| The Man On The Prowl 01.02.2004 04:26 |
I've tried many ways. The easiest and the most immediate is the one David Jones said. But if your gear cannot obtain an high audio quality, then you have to do it with some software, and the ones I said are the most easy and immediate. They are also easy to find free and the quality is great. Just search for Smart Ripper, AC3 Decoder and download them. |
| Penis - Vagina 01.02.2004 05:04 |
I'll 3rd the nomination of recording real-time to the computer. This is how I'm forced to do it, since I don't have a DVD drive anyway :) Just a word of warning if anyone chooses to do it this way.. please be mindfull of your audio level. I've heard so many recordings from vinyl and other sources which were so loud they distorted. You can always amplify later.. but de-amplifying causes 'clipping', which kills dynamic range. Thank you. |
| David Jones 01.02.2004 05:43 |
> The method you're suggesting, David, is like transfering a tape to a CD - you need to play the tape fully for it to be recorded. Today, it's possible to extract the data without having to play it at real time (it's played, but very fast and only internally), which saves time and allows you to use the PC for other purposes as well. Yeah, I do alot of recording from tape, so the lead has its uses. I also use it for recording the guitar too. Will have to look into those new methods though! Cheers! |
| Adam Baboolal 01.02.2004 09:56 |
Ah the old days. Recording my guitar through the line-in of a sound card. Ah... But since we have a PC, dvd should not be treated in the same way. It just defies(sp?) logic. If it's faster, fairly easy to do and sounds HUGELY better - why treat it like you're recording a tape!? And if you don't have a dvd-rom? Get one! It's so cheap now. Peace, Adam. |
| David Jones 01.02.2004 10:51 |
I do have a DVD Rom now with my new computer - my old one didn't. Will have a good look at these programmes! |
| inu-liger 01.02.2004 14:27 |
Hey Adam, I have a question for you. What is your nationality/heritage? |
| Adam Baboolal 01.02.2004 18:09 |
I'm Scottish and have roots from the West Indies. Why did you want to know? |
| inu-liger 01.02.2004 18:16 |
Because earlier a few weeks, maybe months, ago you said you weren't English. Just curious |
| proton 03.02.2004 05:14 |
easiest method: rip the audio from the DVD with DVD2AVI (no ripping of the vob files needed, you can do this directly from the DVD disc). after that you have a wave file on your PC in 48khz. Now load it into CoolEdit or any other wave editor and convert it tot 44.1 khz sample rate, but make sure that the pitch is also altered accordingly, elso you will end up with a file which is too slow , like a tape at wrong speed. Then cut the wave and save the seperate songs. Then after that burn the stuff on CDR as audiocd. |
| Guy 03.02.2004 09:19 |
That's a bit risky, proton, errors can be caused... It's never good to use things on a removable drive, you should always copy it to the hard drive first. That's why, for example, it's not recommended to burn audio CDs "on the fly". |
| The Fairy King 03.02.2004 12:05 |
TotalRecorder and Nero Soundtrax, i prefer Total Recorder! |
| proton 04.02.2004 05:46 |
Guy: copying the files to your PC is a step not needed, DVD2AVI rips the audio from a DVD disc very fast, and when the wave is on your PC you can remove the DVD disc because you wont need it after that. |
| David Jones 04.02.2004 14:10 |
I'm gonna ask a question asked over and over again! What do you guys reckon is the best programme to split a continuous wave into individual tracks. CoolEdit Pro works very well, but sometimes there are very very slight clips. Is Nero any better? If so, which Nero programme do I use to cut em up? Ta! |
| pma 04.02.2004 14:47 |
Nero Burning Rom, set the track division for the wave and burn....IF your intention is to create a cd that is. Cool Edit should not create any gaps if you work with CD SECTOR timeformat instead of the default decimal format... If your burner supports it use a text editor or Cuesheet Editor link to create a cue sheet and burn the wav using the cue sheet with Nero BR for example. Not all burners support cue sheets as I recall. If you just want to edit separate tracks for whatever use (not burning) then check your Cool Edit to see if you are using DECIMAL or CD SECTOR.... |
| David Jones 05.02.2004 14:19 |
> Cool Edit should not create any gaps if you work with CD SECTOR timeformat instead of the default decimal format... Thats the Compact Disc 75 fps right? So thats where I'm going wrong! Cheers! |