| queenrocks! 10902 22.01.2004 13:56 |
Hi, i think as well as releasing GVH3 they should release a DVD of Queen's last ever concert at Knebworth. Apart from Wembley that was probably the best concert of The Magic Tour. I had never seen it before so it would be ideal for Queen fans who had never seen the concert before. Let me know what you think |
| Adam Baboolal 22.01.2004 14:03 |
Didn't they say that there was footage missing? Peace, Adam. |
| Johan 22.01.2004 14:19 |
I think they said they only had footage of We Are The Champions... Can somebody confirm this? |
| Mayboy 22.01.2004 15:37 |
A think a bootleg excists but only from poor angles :( |
| MexQueenFM 22.01.2004 16:19 |
Greg said some parts are missing, but they have the whole audio, i think |
| inu-liger 22.01.2004 16:22 |
Well then, if that's the case, use the original multitrack tape used to record that concert, and make a first live Queen DVD-Audio disc out of it. I'd say that's the next best thing, anyone agree? |
| Harry_queenrecordings 22.01.2004 16:35 |
Not such a bad idea! would be nice :) |
| bokkepoot 22.01.2004 17:18 |
The Knebworth concert on video is shared since almost one year in the Queenhub. Okay the quality is not so good but it is in full color and......better something then nothing. It is a video-capture from the big screen on the top of the podium. |
| Adam Baboolal 22.01.2004 18:38 |
So, probably an audio release. Maybe... |
| Penetration_Guru 22.01.2004 20:06 |
No. The setlist is virtually identical to Wembley - there's no point duplicating. And if you want to listen to a concert in 5.1 - switch your TV off. Voila. Why waste time making a redundant release? |
| Adam Baboolal 22.01.2004 20:44 |
Well, really, from listening to many people's opinions on this concert - It should've been released instead of Wembley. Not purely because it was the last ever show but, because it's a better show performance. I haven't heard it, so I don't know that. But like I said, it's what I hear from many fans. I have heard a couple of tracks and they sound better than Wembley versions. I think Wembley was released because of the supposed last show occasion, the xtreme planned video and the enormity of the place. I don't know if they see Knebworth in the same way? Hence the half-assed video for Knebworth. But the audio is a given... Peace, Adam. |
| Fenderek 23.01.2004 13:55 |
< Why waste time making a redundant release?>> Wow!!! Are you sarcastic? If yes- well done! If not... Wembley is a quite crap gig whereas Knebworth is one of the best gigs Queen ever played. Maybe the setlist is virtually the same, but the performance- its like comparing Yugo to Ferrari... I think Darks idea is really good (I never thought I would ever say that but...recently his posts are really good!) |
| inu-liger 23.01.2004 23:51 |
Merci, Fenderek. I made a resolution to make better posts this year and try to be a better person, albeit I'm being a bit of a hypocrite right now, cos I'm making fun of Rosanna |
| Spisso 24.01.2004 05:53 |
It should be a good idea, indeed. Their performance in Knebworth was much better than in Wembley, probably the best of Magic Tour |
| Guy 24.01.2004 08:37 |
Fenderek, P_G is right. Wembley has already been released, you can't take it back, so releasing another show with almost the same setlist (even if the performance isn't the same) will be useless. Obviously, if QP had the complete video and if Wembley wouldn't have been released, Knebworth would be a good idea. Since Wembley is already out, there's nothing that can be done. |
| Adam Baboolal 24.01.2004 10:19 |
That's a bit of a defeatist attitude to take, Guy. Never say never. Although Sean Connery should have(!), the point is, we may see it sometime soon. Peace, Adam. |
| Fenderek 24.01.2004 12:54 |
< My point is: of course I would rather see Milton Keynes out or Hammersmith'79 or some early shows. OF COURSE!!! But I don't agree that releasing Knebworth would be pointless... That's all- I agree, you can't take back Wembley release, but... C'mon- just compare London Saturday show with, let's say, Budapest. It's a huge difference!!! And Knebworth was even better!!! Let me put it this way- I would ALSO love to hear Knebworth in 5.1- that's my point. Will it happen? Don't know... Maybe after Queen + Gareth Gates or sth. Or maybe never... But that's something I WISH |
| jeff payne 1680 24.01.2004 13:01 |
Brian May live at the Albert hall in 98 would be better as its been promised so many times |
| YourValentine 24.01.2004 13:05 |
It's unrealistic to expect a DVD video release of Knebworth. For all we know it was filmed with only a few cameras while Budapest was filmed with 16 cameras. So, *if* a second Magic Tour DVD should ever see the light of day, it will most likely be Budapest. Wembley set standards and QP will certainly not fall behind that standard and we can hardly blame them for that. But I don't even think there will be another Magic show out on DVD for the reasons PG already explained - all signs point to Milton Keynes which will leave us fans of the early shows disappointed. |
| Fenderek 24.01.2004 13:10 |
< Yes!!! But we were talking about AUDIO DVD! That wouldn't be that BAD idea, would it? |
| YourValentine 24.01.2004 14:44 |
You can always dream but a DVD-Audio from a previously unreleased concert is even less likely. |
| inu-liger 24.01.2004 14:54 |
"You can always dream but a DVD-Audio from a previously unreleased concert is even less likely." Brian wanted to release the Tribute Concert '92 and Wembley on DVD-A, but was told apparently by his advisors that there was no market for live DVD-A's. Bullshit, IMO, cos there's that Pavarotti and Friends DTS CD/DVD-A(?) that has Elton John and some others that I saw at Best Buy Canada |
| Rich Tea 24.01.2004 15:07 |
The Knebworth parts are probably the best bits of Live Magic. Unfortunatly if you look at Queen Rare the official video footage was filmed from the control tent with just 1 camera. Yes I was there and at Wembley & Knebworth was so much better but I think Wembley had been planned for a while hence the liklyhood of a Knebworth DVD being zero. I would much prefer a best of the 70's type thing maybe a double disc containing 2 or more gigs from Rainbow through to The Crazy Tour gigs. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2004 20:54 |
"all signs point to Milton Keynes which will leave us fans of the early shows disappointed." It probably won't be uncut and complete, though. They'll have you patch up Freddie's voice breaking during Fat Bottomed Girls, and Brian's cord falling out of his guitar during his solo. "I would much prefer a best of the 70's type thing maybe a double disc containing 2 or more gigs from Rainbow through to The Crazy Tour gigs." I see this as being the most possible. I'd be very surprised if they had an entire concert from that era in releaseable quality. |
| proton 26.01.2004 06:02 |
with all dvd releases you have to keep in mind 1 thing: the production company will only release a dvd if they think it will be a commercial succes. Meaning: they will only release something if it will sell a lot. simple :-) So Knebworth is out of the question. Maybe one day in some sort of collectors dvd-box, but solely as dvd, nopes. Sames goes for Earls court and Houston, both might end up in a collectors box I think. |
| Penetration_Guru 26.01.2004 11:33 |
Ah! I always wondered what "commercial success" meant. Now I know. Super! |
| wstüssyb 26.01.2004 11:46 |
you know Knebworth was going to be put out around 93/94 you dont trust me? ask Spike edney. |
| Wayne Gretzky 26.01.2004 12:37 |
I think Wembley is way better than Knebworth. |
| The Real Wizard 26.01.2004 14:32 |
"I think Wembley is way better than Knebworth." Never listen to anyone who cannot differ sound quality from performance quality. Just because it sounds good doesn't mean they played a better show. |
| Wayne Gretzky 26.01.2004 14:58 |
Well, they did play better at Wembley. |
| Fenderek 26.01.2004 15:52 |
< Yes- it was almost as good as Party At The Palace... |
| Rich Tea 26.01.2004 17:55 |
Sorry but While both gigs were excellent Knebworth was by far the best performance, atmoshere and overall event (apart from the loo's & Car Park!!!). Don't believe me listen to AOBTD on Live Magic compared to Live at Wembley! |
| Adam Baboolal 26.01.2004 18:59 |
From what I've heard, the sound quality is on par with Wembley. But Knebworth feels better. Performance does seems better. Peace, Adam. |
| Borhap80 28.03.2004 08:15 |
I recently saw the Knebworth footage. If they have or find that footage, thats enough for a DVD release. My point : - There was a camera in a helicopter.. - A camera at the sound board... + about 5-7 around the stage... Maybe more... I dunno...!! From the footage I've heard, I notice more energy and magic than the Wembley show... !! Hope it will be seen some day.... !! |
| Adam Baboolal 28.03.2004 14:24 |
Ah ha! So there were more cameras. Good work Thomas. :) Peace, Adam. |
| Jjeroen 29.03.2004 04:52 |
I'll stick to my plan that Queen should release a rare live box set, like Led Zeppelin did last year. Actually I think they should release at least two, one'with 70's and one with 80's gigs. That way they can stuff everything together that they consider not good enough to be commercially marketable on it's own. If Zepp can do it (with pretty big succes!), so can Queen. (What happened to the 'Live Killers'-DVD box plans???) (don't get me wrong: these boxes should be in ADDITION to not INSTEAD OF any possible future full show-releases. I'm talking stuf they consider not commercial enough on it's own for whatever reason. Either way no excuse NOT to release (parts of) Knebworth and of course all tbe other stuff that we hunger for to see in as good as possible quality... Also Hyde Park for instance could be there: not marketable on it's own because of the bad master quality, definately good enough to be included in such a set. And of course there are a lot more examples... |
| D.Blythe 29.03.2004 09:44 |
The dvds released by Queen Productions are intended to appeal to a mass audience. For 90% of the Queen fans out there, one show from the Magic tour is enough. They do not know or probably care that Knebworth was better. Why have two dvds with basically the same set list? Knebworth may be the better show, but if someone were to pick up the dvd at their local store and look at it, they would think "this is the same as the Wembley dvd I already have". At any rate, Q.P. and Brian May are not going to release any show to dvd that is so incomplete visually as Knebworth is, unless one of the band members or their management or whomever has a personal copy of a complete filmed account. That I doubt because they put all of their chips on a film of Wembley. Budapest was filmed only because it was a special show behind the "Iron Curtain". I would be surprised if we see a dvd of that show simply because of the similarity to Wembley set list-wise. Our only hope may be a limited edition release available to only Queen fans through QUEENONLINE or some official entity representing Queen. |
| Jjeroen 29.03.2004 10:56 |
...or a Zeppelin-wise box set... ;-) |
| queenrocks! 10902 29.03.2004 12:21 |
Wow I didn't know people were still talking about this! |
| jamesfrancistaylor 29.03.2004 15:22 |
Well ... to add my opinion - it would be great to see an official release of the Knebworth show. I was there and remember what a great day in the sunshine it was. One of the best concerts I've ever been to. |
| Adam Baboolal 29.03.2004 18:44 |
And a DVD-A release would be most welcome. Even a normal cd release. Most welcome, indeed. Peace, Adam. |
| Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 29.03.2004 20:42 |
I don't think a Knebworth release is really worth it. With the release of Wembley on DVD/CD, Live Magic on CD, and Budapest on Laserdisc, the Magic Tour has been definately represented (if not over-represented). |
| The Real Wizard 31.03.2004 12:06 |
Agreed. Bring on some Hot Space stuff, or anything before. |
| Fenderek 31.03.2004 12:37 |
< That would be absolutely great!!! Actually- this way they could release sth like Houston- they don't want to do it due to its bad quality, the mass audience wouldn't go for it, cleaning would take a lot of time and money... But would we mind paying let's say £20 for their quality copy of this show, without any cleaning etc...? I wouldn't... |
| The Real Wizard 31.03.2004 22:23 |
In our dreams, my friend... :) |