Dicky Heart 06.12.2003 11:19 |
Hi there, I heard some time ago Freddie his grandparents could be from Iran... i hardly believe, but you never know... Is there anyone who knows something about it? |
Mercuryking 06.12.2003 11:39 |
yeah its true, he's orignially from iran |
Mercuryking 06.12.2003 11:41 |
the name farookh is a persian name |
pma 06.12.2003 11:48 |
Repeating myself. The Bulsara family originates from the town of Bulsar in Gujarat, Western India. His parents were Parsee, who'm are Indian followers of Zarathustra. Yes, the origin of some of those people can be traced to 9th century Persia. But was Freddie persian or his parents or grandparents persian ? hardly. |
Mercuryking 06.12.2003 12:08 |
pma: Whats so hardly?? he looks pretty much like a iranian so its a very big possiblillty that he is from iran , plus his name is iranian... |
Bohardy 06.12.2003 12:18 |
There's not a "very big possibility that he is from Iran" because the facts are that he was born in Zanzibar and his parents were born in India. As pma pointed out, his ancestry can possibly be traced back to Iran, but my ancestry can possibly be traced back to France, but I'm about as French as a shaved armpit. |
Mercuryking 06.12.2003 12:42 |
yeah but take a look at the man , does he look like a indian or a iranian?? didnt freddie mentioned some were that if he was broke , he still walk around like an persian prins?? correct me if im wrong |
FriedChicken 06.12.2003 13:21 |
Pma is right |
pma 06.12.2003 15:06 |
Wow, someone here has a hard time facing facts and a one sided image of the ethnic composition of people from India. |
SallyJ. 06.12.2003 15:37 |
pma is right. :) |
Dicky Heart 06.12.2003 16:35 |
I agree Freddie's got an "Middle-East" look, but it's hard to recon the origin by looking at his face... thanks! |
Mercuryking 06.12.2003 22:13 |
'I was caught up in being a star and I thought 'This is the way a star behaves'. Now I don't give a damn. I want to do things my way and have fun. If all my money ended tomorrow, I'd still go about like I had lots of money because that's what I used to do before. I'll always walk around like a Persian Poppinjay and no one's gonna stop me. 'I love living life to the full - that's my nature. Nobody tells me what to do.' (1985) |
pma 07.12.2003 02:41 |
and that quote changes the fact that his closet ethnic link to Persia is found as far as in the 9th century by how ? |
AC 07.12.2003 08:34 |
Pma is right. |
bleeding heart show 07.12.2003 08:44 |
Mercury Singeroflife are you Irani ? |
Mercuryking 07.12.2003 19:07 |
nope i live in sweden |
pouria 08.12.2003 11:23 |
hello everyone I'm an iranian. Freddie was a persian.his parents were followers of Zarathustra and are from india, but those indians who follow Zarathustrian are iriginally perisna and iranian. as somebody said freddie's name was faroukh and that's a persian name and there still many people in Iran whose name is faroukh. So in the end, freddie,even though wasn't born in iran, is originally a persian and iranian. |
Mercuryking 08.12.2003 11:35 |
yeah thats the real truth , not that he's a indie , so PMA is not right at all |
pma 08.12.2003 16:20 |
You guys seem desperate for a hero. Perhaps it's the language barrier... The un-deniable facts have been presented, but for some demented reason few refuse to believe them. |
Sonja 09.12.2003 06:22 |
One of my best friends is from Iran and I know her family and relatives and I think Freddie definitely looked like an Iranian. Especially eyes and nose. And I asked her about all that and she said the same as Pouria. |
joep the rocker 09.12.2003 07:40 |
Do some of you actually read other people's posts? bohardy wrote: "There's not a "very big possibility that he is from Iran" because the facts are that he was born in Zanzibar and his parents were born in India. As pma pointed out, his ancestry can possibly be traced back to Iran, but my ancestry can possibly be traced back to France, but I'm about as French as a shaved armpit." Now there's no arguing with that! Freddie is not from Iran! How can someone with an english passport who was born in Zanzibar out of indian parents be from Iran? |
Mercuryking 09.12.2003 10:34 |
very simple, they were of Zarathustraien beliefs , who escaped from persia(iran) to a iranian coloni zanzibar. My Friend is from iran , but have lived almost his whole life in sweden , does that make him a swede ? no it dont.. If Freddie weren't from persia , then can somebody explain why his name is persian? and why his look is persian? |
YourValentine 09.12.2003 11:14 |
"very simple, they were of Zarathustraien beliefs , who escaped from persia(iran) to a iranian coloni zanzibar" very simple but totally untrue. The Parsis fled from Persia in the 14th century to India, not to Zanzibar. There was never an Iranian colony in Zanzibar. Freddie's birth certificate which is printed in some biographies says his parents' nationality is "British Indian" |
pma 09.12.2003 11:34 |
"The Parsis fled from Persia in the 14th century to India" The articles I've read state 600-900 AD... "then can somebody explain why his name is persian?" Care to elaborate since WHEN has a persons FIRST NAME been a definition of ethnic origin. My name is deriving from Greek Petrus..am I greek ? with your logic I am Greek :S Your logic fails miserably. You ignore that his SURNAME which is in many cases revealing of someones ethnic origin is after a town called Bulsar in Gujarat, India The word Balsar is said to mean 'mercury' in many Northern Indian dialects. And his look is not 'Iranian' or 'Persian' , aqualine noses, dark hair and so forth are not solely found amongst people from Iran, incase you haven't noticed. I doubt the 1st thing people think when they saw Freddie was..oh look at him..he looks Iranian My father looks quite the bit like a stereotypical Jewish banker from nazi propaganda ...is he a jewish banker ? no he is a Finnish stevedore (well foreman, lol) :P Get my point ? doubt it. A few terms (just incase this is a language barrier issue) link link link (to point that Parsi(Parsee and Persian are not synonymes) I guess now it's time..for me to throw up... I feel it's time.. |
pouria 09.12.2003 14:43 |
Guys I really don't understand what some of you are saying? Freddie, as stated in his birth certificate, is a british citizen. but originally he is a persian.Yeah I know he was born in Zanzibar but the place of birth does not mean that your ethnic is also a zanzibarian or whatever. I don't really wanna teach a history course in this forum but in 5th or 6th century, after Arabs and muslims took over persia, they forced persians to convert from Zarathustrian to Islam and they also set many limits for followers of Zarathustrian to follow their religion and because of this, a group of zarathustrian moved from Persian to India and they started practicing their religion in India. Those are still called Parsi(which means persian) in India which represents their orgin. And freddie's parents were also one of those Parsis, now I don't know when did freddie family moved to india or Zinzibar or whatever but I'm sure that freddie had persian blood in his veins. now if you wanna disagree with me, you are free. |
SallyJ. 09.12.2003 18:22 |
Freddie's last name is Bulsara... a place in India. (Bulsar?) Anyway, if we are starting like this, then we could very well say that we are all Africans. After all, mankind once began in Africa... :) |
Mercuryking 09.12.2003 19:02 |
you can't say that freddie is a english man either, nor a indie |
Virtuoso 09.12.2003 19:07 |
Some people are having a hard time to comprehend the fact that Freddie's not Iranian.The proof is there. |
Dicky Heart 10.12.2003 05:33 |
Well.... the question was are freddie's grandparents from Iran??? When you look at freddie himself it's obvious he's got a little middle east in his blood.... i think it's cool freddie's blood i a mixture af some different "bloodtypes" |
riku_queencdr 10.12.2003 07:04 |
But what about Freddie's sister!?! You haven't yet discussed about her origin. I'm interested to hear this :)) |
FriedChicken 10.12.2003 07:09 |
"So in the end, freddie,even though wasn't born in iran, is originally a persian and iranian." Thats just bullshit. If someone who was born in holland is called Dave, and 100 years ago that family came from America, does that make Dave an American? If you say, yes. Then i must say that you're African. Cause after the ice age there were only 10.000 humans left on this planet. Who lived in Africa. And they scattered all over the world. So we're all africans |
YourValentine 10.12.2003 07:09 |
Well, her "blood type" is A RH-, Riku:) |
Sonja 10.12.2003 11:15 |
"Thats just bullshit. If someone who was born in holland is called Dave, and 100 years ago that family came from America, does that make Dave an American?" Originally yes. I was born in Brazil. My parents were also born and raised in Brazil. One of my grandma was also born in Brazil. Her parents were Germans and the rest of the family is German, too. I moved to Germany with my parents when I was 9. Although all of my family (except of myself) spent most of their life in Brazil we don't consider ourselves Brazilians. We don't look like Brazilians and we don't have the same mentality as Brazilians and we follow European customs. There is a certain brazilian influence though but we are not Brazilians. So it's pretty much the same. Originally my family is German. You don't have to go back to the after ice age time in Africa to say what your origin is. |
MercuryArts 10.12.2003 21:36 |
I was just ompressed to learn that Bulsar can mean Mercury in some cases. That explains alot. I never understood what made Freddie take the name of the messenger of the gods. Thanks for educating me. As for all the rest, who give a damn. I always thought he was just genius. |
Sonja 11.12.2003 12:39 |
"I always thought he was just genius." This is just perfect to finish this discussion! There'll be no doubt about that at all I suppose. :-) |
Farhad Arkani 08.01.2005 16:57 |
Dear friends! Why struggling?! We are all members of the great Queen family! I'm Iranian you know, but for me it doesn't care at all if Freddie is Iranian or not... Freddie was (is) a genius & he belongs to the entire world of "happiness & blessing" as Farrokh means "Happy & Blessed" in Persian language. God Bless You Farhad |