Richard Orchard 09.10.2020 18:16 |
hi All, Just giving people a heads-up - i will be shutting down queenzone on 1 November. A few reasons: 1. Don't have the time to maintain the site - can't be bothered with sorting out all the spammers, fixing things. 2. Cost - don't really want to spend any more money on the site (only about $50 per month, but all adds up) 3. Don't really have much passion for what remains of Queen anymore. 4. There are lots of avenues for conversation/downloading stuff/ etc now. So - for those few people that still viisit,you can arrange an alternative venue. I think the site started in about 1995 - so it has been going a while. i may put up the raw code/data somewhere if anyone ever wants to play with it. The discography by John S Stuart was good i thought. Richard |
mooghead 09.10.2020 19:14 |
Yeah, do that, pass it on rather than just close it down, the messageboard at least, couldn't tell you the last time I visited anywhere else on the site. |
MrFunster 09.10.2020 19:33 |
Goodbye |
philip storey 09.10.2020 19:47 |
Thanks for all you have done Richard,I will miss this site a lot ,but i understand your reason's. |
CHEVYMAN 09.10.2020 20:23 |
Thank You so much for your time I appreciate and respect your decicion |
bokkepoot 09.10.2020 20:49 |
Thank you very much for all the the work you have done for almost 25 years ! I totally agree with the 4 points. Goodbye. |
Invisible Woman 09.10.2020 21:22 |
After more than three years as I am on Queenzone I am sorry for this decision. |
FreddieDearie 09.10.2020 23:21 |
Richard Orchard wrote: hi All, Just giving people a heads-up - i will be shutting down queenzone on 1 November. A few reasons: 1. Don't have the time to maintain the site - can't be bothered with sorting out all the spammers, fixing things. 2. Cost - don't really want to spend any more money on the site (only about $50 per month, but all adds up) 3. Don't really have much passion for what remains of Queen anymore. 4. There are lots of avenues for conversation/downloading stuff/ etc now. So - for those few people that still viisit,you can arrange an alternative venue. I think the site started in about 1995 - so it has been going a while. i may put up the raw code/data somewhere if anyone ever wants to play with it. The discography by John S Stuart was good i thought. RichardWhy can't you let someone else take over the site? |
Saint Jiub 10.10.2020 00:19 |
Thanks, Richard. I enjoyed my 19+ years here. I will miss this place, but life goes on ... |
misabeat 10.10.2020 01:14 |
As a frequent visitor to this site for many many years (and greatly appreciative of the site owners work and also the contributors) it would be a great shame to see QueenZone close down. Maybe there is an opportunity for suitably qualified/visionary people to acquire ownership and rebuild/design this site. If it is the site owners desire to close the site for good, then thank you for everything you have done over the past 25 years. For I personally have learnt so much about Queen and acquired terabytes of recordings from here, for which I'm eternally grateful. |
The Ghost of Lester Burnham 10.10.2020 01:19 |
Thanks Richard. Met loads of wonderful people here – Serry, Sir_GH, Penetration_Guru, Lisser, Dan C, Amanda J, Pim, Niek, Mr. Scully, Flashman, fatty, wstussyb, Freya, our dearly departed and sorely missed John S Stuart, and of course my old sparring partner iGSM, who I met many times in person and we are still very good friends to this day. (He even made the trek from Canada to Philly to watch me get married!) There are so many more people who are lost to the mists of time (certainly not Arlene R Weiss; I don’t think any of us from 2005 can forget her!) but I hope they’ll jump in and say their goodbyes. There are so many people in this community – back when it was a community instead of a breeding ground for trolls and bots – who have contributed so greatly to this place over the year; I know my book never would have happened without QZ. Anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish, Richard. Thank you for at least 25 years of reading and chatting, a good eight years of which were nearly daily drop-ins. I won’t harbor on the bad sides of QZ; overall, it was mostly harmless. |
matt z 10.10.2020 01:27 |
What a bummer but i totally understand it. I hope some can archive it at least. I never got around to resaving CMatt's incredible mixes. I've always loved the humor until it became a dustbin for bad ideas and wanking imbeciles spewing bile back n forth for a while. So many good memories. I feel like this deserves it's own documentary LOL Guess I'll join that new club whenever i upgrade my phone, (*which may be never) I'll get a pad or notebook. thanks Richard, You've done an incredible service to gather folks from international zones together on the unique love for the band. It's only natural that life intervenes and the torch may need be picked up elsewhere. I appreciate what you've done. I was a droll 15 year old most likely when i first found this spot can't thank you enough. I wonder what'll become of the Brian's Curse thread and the Random thread of randomness or whatever it was called |
Golden Salmon 10.10.2020 06:24 |
Richard, thank you so much for creating QueenZone and keeping the place going for so long. So much good came out of it, it outweighs all of the bad moments for sure. Its legacy is priceless. Now, it's time to move on. Anyway the wind blows... |
emrabt 10.10.2020 06:38 |
Thank you Richard. |
Velizar 10.10.2020 06:51 |
R.I.P. Queenzone... Thanks for everything! |
AudioSynthesis 10.10.2020 07:29 |
Thanks for everything you've done Richard! Wishing you all the best |
Golden Salmon 10.10.2020 07:35 |
Double post, please ignore. |
Chinwonder2 10.10.2020 08:30 |
We all knew this would day would come but it’s still sad to see. I’ve met so many great friends on QueenZone and I’ve been so inspired on here. Thank you Richard for keeping it going for so long, you’ve surely changed a lot of our lives on here. RIP QueenZone (Richard’s Place), you’ll certainly will never be forgotten. -Chin |
Spidzzle 10.10.2020 08:46 |
Been a fun yet short lived time for me, this was one of the first Queen communities I became part of. Thanks for everything! |
Lord Fickle 10.10.2020 09:37 |
This must be one of the longest running forums on the entire Internet. Sad to see it go. Unfortunately, there are always people who will want to ruin a good thing, but there have been fun times, and I've met some good people here. |
pittrek 10.10.2020 09:45 |
It would be a pity to lose all great threads from here, but I absolutely understand your reasoning. Thanks a lot for the great years, but if you somehow can dump the database (at least the threads) and make it available somehow, that would be great. Would you have time to write some exports? |
Holly2003 10.10.2020 10:20 |
I asked the fan club if they might do a forum but Jacky said she's worried Y2K might crash it. Old Queenzone joke. |
FlorianS 10.10.2020 10:29 |
Thank you very much for your efforts and for all the years! |
badboybez 10.10.2020 11:28 |
cheers Richard adios QZ |
BradMay 10.10.2020 11:33 |
I think it's for the better that it closes. Ever since i've joined, which must've been 2006 under the name "Innuendo1990" there was a fair share of trolls and members verbally abusing others. Surely it's been great reading alot of the topics, and some of the hilarious comments by others like the encounters with Fatty, and the stuff Chiefmouse did was great. If the forum stays open for the members to post and read, but not for new members to sign up i think that it can possible restore a bit of peace. But if it closes down on nov 1st for good then that is of course a decision everyone has to agree on is better for the current mood there is on this forum. No matter what, it's been a great ride and i've met lots of nice people on here. |
Queenman!! 10.10.2020 12:00 |
Thanks Richard for everything!! Been following Queenzone since 1997 or so. I hope you can contribute to the new Queen forum in any kind of way!! Thanks Maybe we see Your Valentine , Gary Taylor and Brooksy here one more time to say goodbye. |
Walter B. 10.10.2020 12:06 |
This is unfortunate, but understandable. Thank you Richard for keep on running the forums so long. It started off so well... So sad, it ends... Yes it was a worthwhile experience! |
sexmachine 10.10.2020 12:21 |
Thanks and Goodbye! |
Localboy80 10.10.2020 12:41 |
Thank you so much for all your efforts and hard work over the years. I am absolutely gutted, as the decent side of Queenzone is amazing but then of course, you have the idiots and trolls who ruin it for everyone. There are some really good people on here and some of the content has been excellent, not to mention the awesome downloads and sharing. I hope you thought it WAS all worth it, mate. Take care Queenzoners, end of an era. |
popy 10.10.2020 12:57 |
1- so why didn't you give moderation rights and other privileges to other people that offered help for years? 2- so why didn't you give moderation rights and other privileges to other people that offered help for years? 3- so why didn't you give moderation rights and other privileges to other people that offered help for years? 4- so why didn't you give moderation rights and other privileges to other people that offered help for years? It was good while it lasted, not counting the last few years, but the end of the site is completely your and YV fault that refused to accept help. YV even made a post a few months ago saying that posts about trolls should be made in the personal forum instead of serious discussion. So, for the moderador, the problem was posts in the wrong place, not trolls. A real moderador would do their work and delete them. A complete disgrace of a moderator. Ironically, that post was also in the wrong place. The site closing proves my theory. You don't stand the idea of other people running the site. Your ego is bigger than wanting the site to keep going, with other owners. People offered help for years. People wanted this site alive and well, but clearly you didn't. Now, they don't bother. It's your fault. You declined. Goodbye. |
Cruella de Vil 10.10.2020 13:42 |
Bohemian 553 shows why the decision has been made and perhaps is overdue. In Australia we could call whoever it is a complete wanker, but that is far, far too mild. Moreso, it is indicative of the fact that this person possesses nothing at all that might give one pleasure. As Roger once said, "Sod you!" Now to more important matters, thank you Richard for all that you did. Was it All Worth It? Yes it was a worthwhile experience! |
YourValentine 10.10.2020 14:44 |
I can't say I did not see this coming but now it's very sad to say good bye. Thank you Richard for all the work, your patience and perseverance. Thank you for letting people use this site with hardly any intervention, so it was up to them to make it the great site it used to be and the not-so-great place it has become thanks to trolls and idiots. Somehow, Queenzone follows the path our favourite band took. Gone is the excitement and enthusiasm, a great, exciting band was replaced by a tedious, repetitive and boring musical act driven by the greed of two old guys who cannot let go. Actually, there is nothing much left to say. I am thankful for all the great people I met on Queenzone who came into my real life and made it so much more exciting and funny. Lifelong friendships came from Queenzone which make my life richer to this day. I always enjoyed the specific Queenzone humour, we had so many laughs. We had Queenzone meetings and Queenzone parties after concerts and other events where we had the chance to meet people in person. Queenzone brought people together in a unique manner, there are still married Queenzone couples. We also lost people which are sorely missed: Jon Mills, John Stuart, and the wonderful Vinou. I am thankful for the sharing community, the ftp site, torrents, the Queen hub. Sharing inofficial Queen material was a decades long passion for me. The sharing community was the greatest achievement of Queenzone, it was also the most international part of the website. We shared tons of stuff long before you could download everything from youtube or other places. Now it's over but we all can use other outlets to keep in contact. The Queenzone group on facebook will not be closed for now unless Richard decides otherwise. |
kosimodo 10.10.2020 15:06 |
QZ is part of daily internet rutine.. will be missed. Thx for the good fun. |
Khizzy 10.10.2020 15:55 |
Sad to see this go but times have changed due to social media and it's not the same as it used to be. |
philip storey 10.10.2020 16:10 |
Please don't let all of this Forum disappear hand it over to somebody else maybe,I know it has it's fault's but it's head and shoulders above the likes of the Official Queen Fan Club's site ,where there is no room for banter and just a load of deluded fan's who part with £25 for two poor quality magazine's a year. |
. 10.10.2020 16:30 |
Thanks Richard, despite the forum problems it had some good years. |
Invisible Woman 10.10.2020 16:52 |
Yesterday I was surprised by this announcement and I could only say that I would be sorry. I want to say that for a long time I just read the topics on this forum until I registered and decided to take part in the discussions. More than three years have passed since then. Thanks to QZ my English has improved, at least I hope. I know that there have been a lot of arguing, insults, trolls in the last year ... but I was hoping that it would pass and that better days would come for QZ. This place has existed for a long time, people from all parts of the world came, read topics, participated in discussions. It will really be a pity that it will no longer exist. But I understand the owner of the forum, especially about reasons 2 and 3. What annoyed me was that members of QZ opened topics with name "close QZ". True fans of Queen shouldn't want something like that. I will miss QZ. |
Thereuhaveit 10.10.2020 19:11 |
Thanks for your work, 25 years is a good run. |
LilMal 10.10.2020 19:31 |
Thanks for all the (unselfish) work over the years ! There's some great discussions in older threads and it's a pity to see all this go. Reasons 1,2,3 are fully understandable though... |
al bundy 10.10.2020 20:53 |
Sad news! |
Mr Mercury 10.10.2020 22:57 |
I would also like to add my thanks to Richard for creating this site in the first place. Without it, I would never have heard so many bootlegs and so many studio outtakes. Some of the threads on here were great to read and very informative (John's threads, for instance) but then the lunatics started to take over and ruin it all. Years ago when I got access to the internet, this would one of the first site I would come to and check out what was happening in Queen world. Times have changed now. Like Richard, I too have lost all interest in what is left of Queen these days and in fact the latest debacle of a release has been the first Queen related product I am totally not interested in. So thanks again Richard, its been a blast. And just think, you now have $50 worth of beer vouchers a month to enjoy :) |
k-m 10.10.2020 23:35 |
Frankly, a little surprised by your radical approach to this. Surely there must be other options like others have suggested? At the end of the day, it is your site and you can do whatever you want with it, but I am surprised you have carried on for so many years, put it in the public domain, many fans have clearly enjoyed at least some aspects of it and now, because you got tired with it, shut it down completely. No worries if that's' what you're going to do, but I think it should be pretty easy to sell it/pass it on to someone else. It's a shame, but good luck with everything of course. |
matt z 11.10.2020 01:09 |
philip storey wrote: Please don't let all of this Forum disappear hand it over to somebody else maybe,I know it has it's fault's but it's head and shoulders above the likes of the Official Queen Fan Club's site ,where there is no room for banter and just a load of deluded fan's who part with £25 for two poor quality magazine's a year.I've gotta say. This is absolute truth. QOL is a disaster whose moderation only permits sycophantic "truths" and adulation. Not that they're undeserved, Only there's no real discourse there. I don't even bother |
matt z 11.10.2020 01:16 |
Please know, that if you decide to transition this or to crowd fund, etc, I'd be a willing donor of $-$ a month...as long as I'm employable. I donate monthly to various causes which cost me more than that but are out of the realm of "Not for profit charities" One being for a veterinarian who takes care of "non native " animals in CA on her own time. Animals that will not and i guess by law CANNOT be treated when found with injuries. If there's ever a support measure taken up on this or ever a shared duties/moderator role taken up... I'm in on it. |
PrimeJiveUSA 11.10.2020 02:38 |
We don't have much time left, do we? I'm so sad...I wish this site could continue some way. |
PrimeJiveUSA 11.10.2020 02:42 |
Hard to believe a site that has original threads from THOR ARNOLD is just going away and erasing all of that treasure! |
Richard Orchard 11.10.2020 07:25 |
hi, if people want to take it on and pay for the hosting - that would be fine by me. It is just hosted on Microsoft Azure, so pretty easy to do. I am in a transitioning phase at the moment (moving back to Australia/currently no job/relying on my savings) - so am reducing costs. The reasons why I haven't had loads of moderators: 1. I believe in free speech. 2. People should be able to "ignore" things they don't like. 3. The time when I did open it up to more moderators - I was bombarded with people complaining about fairness of the moderation. I experimented with creating a hard-copy version of the site- probably do-able. The site runs of a database, so is mainly "dynamic". Richard |
Mr. Scully 11.10.2020 10:36 |
To be honest I don't think the whole site as such is worth keeping online (and I'm saying that as somebody who spent/wasted here days and nights and weeks and months at one point :-))), it's a mess that hasn't been updated for two decades. On the other hand, the history of the forum includes many VERY interesting conversations that would deserve to be kept forever. I wonder how to do it... how about keeping QueenZone only as a discussion forum? Even if without any new posts. But the forum history should be preserved. $50 for hosting is way too much anyway (unless it's a dedicated server). How big is the forum database? Are we talking about dozens of gigabytes, dozens of millions of records? I don't have time to write any scripts these days but a SQL backup of the forum would be nice to have. It should be easy to present it online in a "hard/fixed" form. |
people on streets 11.10.2020 10:39 |
Thanks and goodbye! |
White-Queen 11.10.2020 10:46 |
Thank you so much Richard for keeping this site up for 25 Years. |
k-m 11.10.2020 12:04 |
matt z wrote:^^ I second that.philip storey wrote: Please don't let all of this Forum disappear hand it over to somebody else maybe,I know it has it's fault's but it's head and shoulders above the likes of the Official Queen Fan Club's site ,where there is no room for banter and just a load of deluded fan's who part with £25 for two poor quality magazine's a year.I've gotta say. This is absolute truth. QOL is a disaster whose moderation only permits sycophantic "truths" and adulation. Not that they're undeserved, Only there's no real discourse there. I don't even bother Richard, sorry to hear about your situation, hope things will change for the better soon for all of us and let's try to save whatever is worth saving of this site! |
philip storey 11.10.2020 12:05 |
If this site does indeed close I can't see myself joining another Queen forum.I am sorry to say I am just not interested in the current incarnation of Queen.I was nine year's old when I first got the Queen bug since then I have spent a small fortune on all thing's Queen 45's.LP's,Cassete's,CD's,Box Set's,Concerts and Merchandise.They were the most important thing in my life,I lived and breathed all thing's Queen like so many other's on this site.The begining of the end was probably in 2008 and the Queen&Paul Rodger's collaboration and TCR Album.However I hung on in there,went to see a couple of the show's not too bad,but nothing like the Queen that I knew and loved.Then the end of my love affair came when they hired Adam Lambert ,I could no longer love this once great Band anymore.I have moved on from Queen and I feel happier for it,there are so many other Band's that I enjoy,Placebo,Muse,Sparks,Streophonics to name a few.These Band's have new Albums to enjoy put on great concert's and do not forget the original fanbase.I know there are a lot of younger fan's who are getting into Queen at the moment ,which is great.It's just not my cup of tea anymore,but whilst it lasted it was great. |
JeroenG 11.10.2020 12:32 |
It's a pity that Queenzone will be shut down, but to be honest I didn't visit it often anymore since I found another Queenforum. It would be a pity however if all the information in the various topics would be lost forever. And now that Queenzone will be closing, I will make a last attempt to ask my question about the 'Stage Of Champions' section. I downloaded lots of the fan covers from there, burned them on CD, but unfortunately many of them can't be played anymore. Since the 'Stage Of Champions' section only gives errors when trying to re-download the MP3's, I would like to ask if someone out here still has the following MP3's that I lost: - Queen For A Day - You're my best friend - 3'02 - Dan Tordjman - The fairy feller's master-stroke - 2'28 - Byzedan - Breakthru - 3'45 - Bob - Love me like there's no tomorrow - 3'00 - Crossed Hearts - She makes me - 3'57 - Aric - Killer queen (2nd version) - 3'06 - Crossfire - In the lap of the gods - 4'31 - Byzedan - Bring back that Leroy Brown - 3'01 - Bohardy - Dear friends - 1'36 - Adam Steen - Sail away sweet sister - 3'32 - Donalyn Gross - The prophet's song/Great king rat/Jesus - 2'12 - April Lady - April lady (instrumental) - 2'53 - Mark Anderson - My life has been saved - 3'14 - Leo Ramone - My melancholy blues - 3'52 - Everqueen - These are the days of our lives - 4'10 - Liar - Under pressure - 3'55 - MegaMike - Leaving home ain't easy - 1'55 |
Negative Creep 11.10.2020 13:13 |
It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly. Have you looked into cheaper hosting/downgrading to a cheaper url? $50 seems incredibly high....? |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 14:11 |
The administrator ban me from there and I haven’t even posted hardly any there lol. I don’t like the regulations on certain subjects anyway it’s apart of who Freddie was and what some of his songs were truly about.I used to belong to a fb group and had a argument with one lady and it blew up here bigger than Dallas so the whole bunch told the administrator I was a troll so silly. I been a member on Queen chats for a while but since they are gonna have to move there they ban me so crazy lol I don’t even post much over there. I wasn’t even really interested to many restrictions I feel you. |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 14:16 |
I wouldn’t mind things staying open if a certain group of ladies move to queen chats like I think they have decided to do and one other troll stays away the rest are okay. I love to talk about the songs. I just love music.I just wanted it shut down if they couldn’t come to some kind of moderation to stop the bullying my family got exploited here. My home even got uploaded by a troll on the site. I thought that was enough. |
flash00. 11.10.2020 16:08 |
Been visiting this brilliant fan site since 2005 and no others!! very sad it's being closed but I agree with all Richard's reasons incl the Q+AL band it's just not for me anymore it's more about money and a drag queen these days and not about music in the slightest, I also was sick of the childish squabbling. I'll miss the place and highly doubt I'll be joining any others. Thanks Richard hope you're future goes well. |
Saint Jiub 11.10.2020 16:20 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: The administrator ban me from there and I haven’t even posted hardly any there lol. I don’t like the regulations on certain subjects anyway it’s apart of who Freddie was and what some of his songs were truly about.I used to belong to a fb group and had a argument with one lady and it blew up here bigger than Dallas so the whole bunch told the administrator I was a troll so silly. I been a member on Queen chats for a while but since they are gonna have to move there they ban me so crazy lol I don’t even post much over there. I wasn’t even really interested to many restrictions I feel you.On Queenchat you had 25 posts of nonsense and QZ hatred in 24 hours. That's severe spamming. Your spamming of QZ with multiple threads demanding moderation was ridiculous. Your personal attacks on QZers are infamous. You need to stop blaming others and scapegoating your bipolar illness for your problems. Your bipolar illness is not excuse for your behavior. You are a worse troll than Gerry. |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 17:39 |
I wouldn’t mind things staying open either like I said with those others gone it is a lovely place to post about music. That others site I didn’t post in much I was there a while but never posted much I don’t think many from here did consider it till now. I’m glad they have a place to go I think this place could stay open. |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 17:40 |
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CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 17:42 |
I’m, Do you know anyone that could run it?Does anyone know Richard well enough to negotiate an offer? |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 17:43 |
At least here we are free to talk about sexual orientation and a few other subjects we aren’t there. |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 17:57 |
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Mr. Scully 11.10.2020 18:02 |
Have you seriously just posted FIVE posts in a row? What's the point in spamming like that, isn't it better to write everything in one post? I can now understand why the moderators often have such a difficult job :-) |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 18:41 |
Mr. Scully sorry about that but I was wondering if someone would be able to take it over if someone paid the bill every month. Do you know anyone that would be willing to do that?just read your previous post you don’t feel it’s worth keeping open I understand your point. |
mooghead 11.10.2020 19:27 |
CHEVYMAN now realising he has no friends lol lol lol...... |
mooghead 11.10.2020 19:27 |
CHEVYMAN now realising he has no friends lol lol lol...... |
mooghead 11.10.2020 19:30 |
It's better being here than being at queen chat boards.net where they give you a slap when you say anything bad. |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 19:45 |
I have been over at Queen chat for a while and found nothing interesting at all. You are regulated on what you can talk about. I have lots of friends they just aren’t make believe through social media they are outside social media I just come here to be nosey and see how the other half socialize lol. It’s all good |
PrimeJiveUSA 11.10.2020 22:39 |
Richard...what was your opinion/reaction of Thor Arnold posting on this board? Did you consider it an honor? I think if I was hosting a site that had someone from Freddie's circle participating I would crap my pants! |
CHEVYMAN 11.10.2020 23:02 |
Moorhead makes no sense give him some loving |
Raf 11.10.2020 23:20 |
Hey Richard, First of all, thanks for all your hard work over all these years. I've learned a lot on this forum and made some good friends here :) As many people seem interested in saving the conversations, wouldn't it be feasible to post a raw dump of the database on Github? It's free and the people who would know what to do with it are probably comfortable with that site. I've made a crawler to save every post and export it in json, but I'm afraid of using it and bringing the server down with so many requests per minute over the course of a few days. :x |
queenfan09 12.10.2020 04:06 |
Thank you Richard; I had joined a couple of years ago, though I was a 'lurker' prior to that - I enjoyed the unique commentary, especially with regard to older threads where the people here kept it interesting and fun. I too admit that current Queen isn't my thing, but luckily that's where YT comes in when I need a fix, lol. Best of luck to you and thanks again for keeping this site going long enough for someone like me to stumble across it! |
Saint Jiub 12.10.2020 05:11 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Moorhead makes no sense give him some lovinglink |
Richard Orchard 12.10.2020 07:32 |
The Database is about 3GB in size. First post in the DB is listed as 5 July 2003. There are 1,164,802 individual posts (replies + topic starters). I will put the code and backup of the DB on github - so, if some people are interested they can play around with it. Code is a bit embarrassing.... Wrote it a long time ago, finding my way as i went along.... I will try and archive/hardcopy the forum topics. i have had some success with a system to do that sort of thing. Will see how that goes - no promises though. |
Richard Orchard 12.10.2020 07:34 |
Raf wrote: Hey Richard, First of all, thanks for all your hard work over all these years. I've learned a lot on this forum and made some good friends here :) As many people seem interested in saving the conversations, wouldn't it be feasible to post a raw dump of the database on Github? It's free and the people who would know what to do with it are probably comfortable with that site. I've made a crawler to save every post and export it in json, but I'm afraid of using it and bringing the server down with so many requests per minute over the course of a few days. :xhey - if you want to give the crawler a go, that would be fine by me. i will be doing a similar sort of thing. if you can limit the requests, that would be helpful. |
Penetration_Guru 12.10.2020 07:56 |
Not only am I grateful to Richard for providing the forum for so long (i'm fairly sure the current DB is only th elatest one, I think there was a crash before that), but what really marks him out as a decent guy is providing notice ofclosure, and engaging with attempts to archive the good stuff. I will always remember the vibrant times. Good luck to all. |
Penetration_Guru 12.10.2020 07:56 |
Double post |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 09:40 |
It was nice to meet you Richard |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 10:02 |
Good luck to you too!!! |
Holly2003 12.10.2020 11:55 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: I love to talk about the songs. I just love music.I don't recall a single comment from you about Queen music, songs, instruments, concerts, singles etc. I'm not even sure you're a Queen fan. |
tcc 12.10.2020 12:10 |
Thank you Richard. I downloaded a lot of music from here but I have also grown a little tired. |
Richard Orchard 12.10.2020 12:31 |
hi, I thought it was fantastic when Thor Arnold posted on here by the way :) I have ordered the book. Fingers crossed it will be out soon-ish. Richard |
emrabt 12.10.2020 12:31 |
CHEVYMAN you got what you asked for Queenzone is closing, why are you still not happy? |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 12:37 |
Holly this isn’t a insult thread this is a place to say goodbye would you like me to say a prayer for you. I love the 70s Queens era I feel it speaks alott Freddie and kash childhood. . A lot of the wording he used seems to point towards it.I think that’s why so much fantasy might of been present in the early stuff as well Holly Polly my buttered soul seven seas of rhye is one it’s my fav,Fatbottom girls,killer Queen about a high class prostitute and Good ole fashioned lover boy is another. |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 12:46 |
Rabt, I’m sur this place has been a long time closing for a while my family and child were exploited here that’s a pretty serious thing. If you think he closed it on my little request of one thread you need to take little better notice sir. Have a blessed day.by the way Freddie deariie unleaded the attack on my family and uploaded my home with my 5 year old grandson playing in the yard so to me until you guys experience that kind of scariness please don’t judge me |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 12:48 |
How nice Richard I’m glad you ordered your copy of the book and enjoy reading it when you receive it have a blessed one. |
Mr. Scully 12.10.2020 13:17 |
Richard, putting the SQL dump online is a great idea. I don't think we need to see your scripts :-) and my code is almost always embarrassing too so don't worry. Just having a mySQL dump - supposing that the db structure is easy to understand - would be great. (Or postgresql or mssql or whatever system was used). |
Rainbow61 12.10.2020 15:03 |
Richard...I only discovered this site about 4 years ago. I appreciate the contributions of such a diverse and knowledgeable group of fans. Reading the amazing variety of threads was such a treat; something I found myself doing nearly every day. It was a Queen gold mine for me...I learned a lot during that time. I wish you nothing but the very best as you venture forth into this exciting, new chapter of your life. I think you can look back with pride with what you have accomplished here over the years! |
Petal 12.10.2020 15:25 |
Richard I discovered this site by accident after stumbling across Thor's thread. It was a pleasure to hear of his time with Freddie. I too have learned so much from this site but I have been way to scared to post in amongst the knowledgeable members for fear of sounding stupid. Thank you for all the hard work you and everyone else has put into this site |
Worzel 12.10.2020 16:10 |
No! |
Worzel 12.10.2020 16:15 |
its bad news |
Wilki Amieva 12.10.2020 16:26 |
In its 25-year span, QueenZone gave a lot of information and joy to people around the world. People would gather around their love for Queen and friendships would arise. This is an achievement you should be proud of. Unfortunately, the site is now a shadow of its former self. Shutting it down seems the only sensible thing to do. Kudos to you, Richard, and to YV! And my most sincere thanks from the bottom of my heart. |
DAZH 12.10.2020 16:42 |
Thank you Richard keeping this site afloat for many years enjoyed it very much. |
Thistle 12.10.2020 17:25 |
Well, where to start? Thanks, firstly, for what was a great site. It really has been a wonderful place. I met lots of great people here, many of whom I now call friends. I've also learned a lot and gained a lot in terms of shares - but have also made some contributions too. There was a LOT of great discussion. I enjoyed all of that. I also enjoyed some of the friendly and light-hearted banter and noise-ups. I even enjoyed SOME of the arguments, because I do have a devilish side, but the trolls really spoiled things (as did the spambots). I can't say I'm surprised it has ended like this, and I did migrate to the chat forum several months ago, but this is still sad. I'm glad that there have been attempts to archive things, and hope to see the best of it again sometime. Thanks to everyone for their contributions. Thanks for the friendship and thanks for some great memories. Hopefully see you elsewhere. Take care guys :) James |
The Real Wizard 12.10.2020 17:36 |
Richard Orchard wrote: 1. I believe in free speech. 2. People should be able to "ignore" things they don't like. 3. The time when I did open it up to more moderators - I was bombarded with people complaining about fairness of the moderation.But does free speech entail hate speech? You're in Australia, where there are hate speech laws - there is a distinct difference between the two. I remember the brief foray into moderation here having mixed results, but that was then and this is now. Every internet forum in this day and age needs to have some form of moderation, or even just a few people will destroy something enjoyed by thousands (never mind the bots). All that aside, a quarter century is a helluva run, and you should be massively proud of what you created. At one time this was the only place on the internet to post new unofficial Queen recordings and bootlegs for the enjoyment of all, and the only place where quality discussion on this band regularly took place during a time when it seemed any incarnation of the band would never exist again - all during the post-grunge era, when it was pretty unpopular to like Queen (and a lot of the older bands). A lot of us were teenagers, that time in life when so much of one's identity is discovered through the music they love. And one of the most valuable experiences here was the youngens learning from the older ones who experienced and studied the band. Having such a place exist to bond over this music we've loved for most of our lives was vitally important, and so many lives were irreversibly altered because of it. It was truly a community that spawned friendships that have lasted for decades. But now the world is a very different place. Queen are one of the biggest names in the biz once again, and much of the dialogue has moved to social media. And the new forum seems to be going splendidly nonetheless, with nearly a thousand members. But not a single one of us who migrated from the original hotel to the new one aren't ungrateful for what it accomplished at its peak. You did good, Richard. Best of luck to you in the next phase of your life. |
The Real Wizard 12.10.2020 17:39 |
Richard Orchard wrote: The Database is about 3GB in size. First post in the DB is listed as 5 July 2003. There are 1,164,802 individual posts (replies + topic starters). I will put the code and backup of the DB on github - so, if some people are interested they can play around with it. Code is a bit embarrassing.... Wrote it a long time ago, finding my way as i went along.... I will try and archive/hardcopy the forum topics. i have had some success with a system to do that sort of thing. Will see how that goes - no promises though.A significant portion of this forum's history is worth preserving for the ages. It would otherwise be no less than a book burning. There are so many options of how to do this, so I truly hope it happens. |
AlbaNo1 12.10.2020 18:46 |
Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 18:59 |
I agree it kinda alienates people with sexual orientation topics it takes their rights and liberation away. I wasn’t impressed. A well known troll operates it that was here that’s a bad idea I think. It may be a good place for the heterosexual but what about the pride community they are kinda shut out. Is it deliberate makes you wonder. |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 19:01 |
I’m glad it’s over hear I don’t have to see the enemies lol |
PrimeJiveUSA 12.10.2020 19:54 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Richard Orchard wrote: And the new forum seems to be going splendidly nonetheless, with nearly a thousand members. But not a single one of us who migrated from the original hotel to the new one aren't ungrateful for what it accomplished at its peak.What is the "new forum"? |
PrimeJiveUSA 12.10.2020 19:56 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Richard Orchard wrote: But now the world is a very different place. Queen are one of the biggest names in the biz once again, and much of the dialogue has moved to social media. And the new forum seems to be going splendidly nonetheless, with nearly a thousand members. But not a single one of us who migrated from the original hotel to the new one aren't ungrateful for what it accomplished at its peak.What is the "new forum"? |
The Real Wizard 12.10.2020 20:06 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:How ironic yet unsurprising - a forum is being shut down largely due to trolling, and you guys are trolling the eulogy thread with a conspiracy theory and siding with other trolls. I'd expect nothing less from you two.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell You could've demonstrated a shed of grace like most others who are putting the negativity aside and reminiscing about the good times... but why start now? Good riddance. |
The Real Wizard 12.10.2020 20:07 |
PrimeJiveUSA wrote:See my signature.The Real Wizard wrote: And the new forum seems to be going splendidly nonetheless, with nearly a thousand members. But not a single one of us who migrated from the original hotel to the new one aren't ungrateful for what it accomplished at its peak.What is the "new forum"? |
AlbaNo1 12.10.2020 20:19 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Actually trolling didn’t feature in the 4 stated reasons for closing it.AlbaNo1 wrote:How ironic yet unsurprising - a forum is being shut down largely due to trolling, and you guys are trolling the eulogy thread with a conspiracy theory and siding with other trolls. I'd expect nothing less from you two. You could've demonstrated a shed of grace like most others who are putting the negativity aside and reminiscing about the good times... but why start now? Good riddance.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell And good riddance to you . For my own amusement I will contemplate the ratio of your post count to sexual experiences . Bore off. |
The Real Wizard 12.10.2020 20:26 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:If you think Queenzone wouldn't be closing down if the trolls hadn't forced 95% of its members to migrate elsewhere, you're out of your mind. It's obvious to plenty of others who have posted in six pages of this thread now.The Real Wizard wrote:Actually trolling didn’t feature in the 4 stated reasons for closing it. And good riddance to you . For my own amusement I will contemplate the ratio of your post count to sexual experiences . Bore off.AlbaNo1 wrote:How ironic yet unsurprising - a forum is being shut down largely due to trolling, and you guys are trolling the eulogy thread with a conspiracy theory and siding with other trolls. I'd expect nothing less from you two. You could've demonstrated a shed of grace like most others who are putting the negativity aside and reminiscing about the good times... but why start now? Good riddance.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell I averaged three posts per day, which is about five minutes of my time. And yet here you are admittedly spending your spare time thinking about someone else's sex life. I'm sure it feels great to project your insecurities onto others. This exchange is a fitting epitaph to this place. Once again - good riddance. |
inu-liger 12.10.2020 21:11 |
Admittingly, it's a little bit sad to see this place who I'd been part of for 20 years go, but on the other hand it's not coming as much of a surprise. The trolls have indeed long dealt it a death knell, in spite of so many requests and pleas over the years for proper moderation which could have saved this place. RIP Queenzone. |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 21:15 |
Agreed |
Sebastian 12.10.2020 21:31 |
Though I certainly admire Frederick, Roger, John and Brian as musicians and have enjoyed researching their catalogue, I'm definitely far more of a QZ fan than a Queen fan as such. I literally grew up here, made friends for life, had countless heated rows, learnt to correct more tactfully (still learning, I know...) and to acknowledge when I was wrong, learnt to defend my stance and to modify it when facing convincing evidence. This place helped me in ways far more profound than pinpointing who'd played rhythm guitar on 'Back Chat' or in which month Frederick sang 'Mother Love'. To quote one of those legendary Fatty posts: 'Was it all worth it? You better fucking believe!' |
AlbaNo1 12.10.2020 21:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote:As if I actually think about it. It was a puerile insult .AlbaNo1 wrote:If you think Queenzone wouldn't be closing down if the trolls hadn't forced 95% of its members to migrate elsewhere, you're out of your mind. It's obvious to plenty of others who have posted in six pages of this thread now. I averaged three posts per day, which is about five minutes of my time. And yet here you are admittedly spending your spare time thinking about someone else's sex life. I'm sure it feels great to project your insecurities onto others. This exchange is a fitting epitaph to this place. Once again - good riddance.The Real Wizard wrote:Actually trolling didn’t feature in the 4 stated reasons for closing it. And good riddance to you . For my own amusement I will contemplate the ratio of your post count to sexual experiences . Bore off.AlbaNo1 wrote:How ironic yet unsurprising - a forum is being shut down largely due to trolling, and you guys are trolling the eulogy thread with a conspiracy theory and siding with other trolls. I'd expect nothing less from you two. You could've demonstrated a shed of grace like most others who are putting the negativity aside and reminiscing about the good times... but why start now? Good riddance.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell But , hey , five minutes is well beyond my endurance. |
brENsKi 12.10.2020 22:05 |
siennai will miss the good times here. a lot. and, regardless of what you think about the reasons for this place going down the pan, every one of us who argued the toss about stuff, or engaged in willful disagreement contributed to the demise of this place. and you know what? that includes you too AlbaNo1. you are IMO (and have been) an insidious little shit-stirring f*ckhead - who has contributed more than your share toward QZ's end. and you should be as ashamed as the rest of us. for once, try an ounce of humility, you nasty, inadequate little c**t. |
BradMay 12.10.2020 22:23 |
link |
CHEVYMAN 12.10.2020 23:09 |
Brenski, you need to stop you are taking the Gay community’s freedom of speech away by not allowing them to talk about subjects related to their sexual orientation. Your forum will not grow that way. Do you know how many gays bisexuals and all of the above make up Queens followers. That was Freddie’s vision. It was for all the unwanted oppressed misfits his champions of the world and you are destroying their right to freedom of liberation. Don’t expect them to follow your site.Our opinions and ideas and feelings matter too!!!!!!!The heterosexual community is in trouble because they don’t have the capacity to show unconditional love and acceptance.Some of us have been called perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, we are judged for the way we view our bodies as works of art. We are judged for the way we love and who we love. We have been called the f word. We are different we all recognized this from early ages we sure as hell hide it because we knew we would surely be judged and this is proof again we are being shunned even in the year 2020.I rest my case you have done something very wrong using the excuse of conflict as a excuse to not give us that freedom to talk. Just tell them how you really feel how disgusted the sight of them make you feel. |
princetom 12.10.2020 23:38 |
hey ! ok. shutting down. i see the reasons. is there any way to get a kind of local backup of all the messages ? kind of an offline-replica ? it would be nice to pick out some facts and myths in order to seperate gold from shit and... some day, one day ... work out some essentials on the works of a certain band we all know what it's called. damn. this forum has somewhat shitloads of information. i really wish there HAS to be a way to make it accessable...afterwards! . btw: thanks for hosting over the decades. mostly i had a very pleasant time reading and contributing (where i could) . THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH ! best regards with compliments, prince of the obsessed maniacs. |
Katydyd5 12.10.2020 23:49 |
Hey Richard, I'm a relative newcomer here in comparison to many, but I want to thank you for all you did. I made friends here and learned a lot through the many wonderful posts. Once I found QZ it became a part of my daily routine and I will miss some of that. It became apparent that it would have to shut down, but I thank you again for all you did. I wish you well as you take the next step in your life! Katy |
PrimeJiveUSA 13.10.2020 02:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Ooooops...thanks!PrimeJiveUSA wrote:See my signature.The Real Wizard wrote: And the new forum seems to be going splendidly nonetheless, with nearly a thousand members. But not a single one of us who migrated from the original hotel to the new one aren't ungrateful for what it accomplished at its peak.What is the "new forum"? |
FreddieDearie 13.10.2020 04:14 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Again, there were always trolls. The board just stopped being managed.AlbaNo1 wrote:If you think Queenzone wouldn't be closing down if the trolls hadn't forced 95% of its members to migrate elsewhere, you're out of your mind. It's obvious to plenty of others who have posted in six pages of this thread now. I averaged three posts per day, which is about five minutes of my time. And yet here you are admittedly spending your spare time thinking about someone else's sex life. I'm sure it feels great to project your insecurities onto others. This exchange is a fitting epitaph to this place. Once again - good riddance.The Real Wizard wrote:Actually trolling didn’t feature in the 4 stated reasons for closing it. And good riddance to you . For my own amusement I will contemplate the ratio of your post count to sexual experiences . Bore off.AlbaNo1 wrote:How ironic yet unsurprising - a forum is being shut down largely due to trolling, and you guys are trolling the eulogy thread with a conspiracy theory and siding with other trolls. I'd expect nothing less from you two. You could've demonstrated a shed of grace like most others who are putting the negativity aside and reminiscing about the good times... but why start now? Good riddance.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell A way to resolve it without losing the years of valuable info here, is to have someone willing to manage it again. |
brENsKi 13.10.2020 06:22 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Brenski, you need to stop you are taking the Gay community’s freedom of speech away by not allowing them to talk about subjects related to their sexual orientation. Your forum will not grow that way. Do you know how many gays bisexuals and all of the above make up Queens followers. That was Freddie’s vision. It was for all the unwanted oppressed misfits his champions of the world and you are destroying their right to freedom of liberation. Don’t expect them to follow your site.Our opinions and ideas and feelings matter too!!!!!!!The heterosexual community is in trouble because they don’t have the capacity to show unconditional love and acceptance.Some of us have been called perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, we are judged for the way we view our bodies as works of art. We are judged for the way we love and who we love. We have been called the f word. We are different we all recognized this from early ages we sure as hell hide it because we knew we would surely be judged and this is proof again we are being shunned even in the year 2020.I rest my case you have done something very wrong using the excuse of conflict as a excuse to not give us that freedom to talk. Just tell them how you really feel how disgusted the sight of them make you feel.what utter rubbish. there is no discrimination - we have banned all subjects that have become discussion shit-storms elsewhere on the internet. our place will remain respectful and friendly. Freddie had no such vision. where do you get your evidence for this - he certainly never said as much - and YOU do wrong to attach such claims in his name. your inference that Freddie was a self-appointed Greta Thunberg-type spokesperson for the LGBT community is (at best) wildly inaccurate, and (at worst) libellous. if anything, Freddie spent almost his entire career either publically denying his sexual orientation or just plain not talking about it full stop. the very opposite of what you so wrongly claim. the only vision Freddie had was to be a legend and make lots of money - his own words. you haven't the first clue about our forum: it continues to grow - 1000+ members and 14,000 posts - in 7 months! it does so, because the controversial topics and trolls (like yourself) are banned. we're better without it. your 2000+ posts here have been nothing but trouble, trolling and idiotic. our place is much better for your absence - which is exactly why we banned you last week. and with that, i'm out of this conversation, too. |
mooghead 13.10.2020 06:36 |
The trolls have nothing to do with the demise of this site. The site is finished because the people who could have done something about them chose not to. Don't get angry with the trolls, they came here to spout their bile because they could. The trolls have won. |
mooghead 13.10.2020 06:37 |
And those who chose to engage and argue with them are just as guilty. |
Vocal harmony 13.10.2020 07:27 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:It was a lot more than two people, and certainly a lot more than one troll.Negative Creep wrote: It will be very sad to see the forums go. I haven't bothered with the new forum that was set up - because I think it stank that 2 people in particular deliberately set out to argue constantly with someone they could have very easily not interacted with, with the clear intention of making the forum horrendous and to launch their own. People like that can go fuck themselves frankly.In a nutshell The new forum is a much friendlier place, and we do have discussions and disagreements but they are a lot more civil than anything that goes on here a lot of the time. As has already been said, this place was great, with a lot of knowledgable people with really interesting discussion. The lack of moderation and the fools that took advantage of that killed this place. The new forum suffers none of these things, and yeah, the same people your blaming for this are regular contributors on that site. Makes your argument futile doesn't it. |
AlbaNo1 13.10.2020 08:05 |
Not really because the same people , or at least one of them . totally changed their behaviour on the new site, whilst continuing to come back and argue here. To quote the Queenzone site administrator. 1. I believe in free speech. 2. People should be able to "ignore" things they don't like. |
Iron Butterfly 13.10.2020 10:02 |
It gave me a pang to read this, I've made some very good internet pals because of this place. Many thanks to inu, Jon and more recently Saint Jiub. Thanks and take care everyone. |
Iron Butterfly 13.10.2020 10:02 |
It gave me a pang to read this, I've made some very good internet pals because of this place. Many thanks to inu, Jon and more recently Saint Jiub and Brenski. Thanks and take care everyone. |
Costa86 13.10.2020 10:09 |
Sad to see QZ go. Hope the suggestion to transfer the site to someone else or to save the contents of the forum works out. It would be a shame to lose the tons of information and good conversations. |
brENsKi 13.10.2020 11:56 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:Not really because the same people , or at least one of them . totally changed their behaviour on the new site, whilst continuing to come back and argue here. To quote the Queenzone site administrator. 1. I believe in free speech. 2. People should be able to "ignore" things they don't like.at least we DID something. we created an environment where people don't abuse each other. wtf did you ever do? - other than insult, whinge, bitch and bad-mouth? - thereby contributing to the QZ downfall, while blaming anyone but yourself for it. you did as much damage as everyone else, time you were adult enough to face up to it. you insidious little pr**k! i'm out of this one now too! have your "last say" - i couldn;t care less f**kwit, our place is Alba-free - which makes it a winner for most. |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 12:14 |
Brenski, was one of the biggest trolls here why don’t you ask him how many of his followers are gonna use his site are from the Gay community and no till I was fucked with I wasn’t hateful to anyone. Brenski was a super troll here it’s a bad move for the people there. I had an account there but when I seen he ban such topics important to my passion of who I am I hardly ever posted. Only reason I was ban. I got into a confrontation here with a bigoted troll Debbie mason a Thor doesn’t even want his name on their thread over there. So yeah you guys need to find a way to grab up memories of those threads.You notice Brenski doesn’t talk about those.What speaking of isn’t rubbish it is caring and compassion for a shunned community and their right to speak I know it’s the year 2020 and things have changed but bigotry hasn’t it will always exist. If sexual orientation were included wouldn’t that create more followers of course it would but they want to create a community of bigots. Queen sung to all people and the misfits then and they do now |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 12:30 |
I never said Freddie was a spokes person for gay rights he was a high profile celebrity he sang about his want for love for a man that’s not confusion.He sung the cowboy song in 1975 where he was admitting to the world he was gay oh Biohemian Rhapsody.He wanted acceptance as much as the rest of us.It doesn’t discriminate it doesn’t matter if your rich or you poor. In his case He was a legend a child dream brenski why don’t you be honest brenski you don’t want to see a lot of men talking respectively but about loving one another on your sight. By the way I’m a woman not a man and I think it’s fine life is too short to spend it alone enjoy it with someone. |
moonie 13.10.2020 13:13 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Brenski, was one of the biggest trolls here why don’t you ask him how many of his followers are gonna use his site are from the Gay community and no till I was fucked with I wasn’t hateful to anyone. Brenski was a super troll here it’s a bad move for the people there. I had an account there but when I seen he ban such topics important to my passion of who I am I hardly ever posted. Only reason I was ban. I got into a confrontation here with a bigoted troll Debbie mason a Thor doesn’t even want his name on their thread over there. So yeah you guys need to find a way to grab up memories of those threads.You notice Brenski doesn’t talk about those.What speaking of isn’t rubbish it is caring and compassion for a shunned community and their right to speak. If that subject were included wouldn’t that create more followers of course it would but they want to create a community of bigots. Queen sung to all people and the misfits then and they do nowWow.. One of the really nice things about queenchat is not having to put up wth absolute unhinged cretins like you.. Brenski is no Troll.. But you and your ilk most certainly are. Enjoy your limited remaining time on here, ranting away like the absolute disturbed areshole that you obviously are. And the rest of us will continue to enjoy a decent Queen forum with like minded enthusiasts engaging in informative discussions and sharing the music.This is me signing out for good after 16 years. Good riddance to bad rubbish. |
mooghead 13.10.2020 13:25 |
And still people engage... |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 13:30 |
Moonie,I’m talking respectful I’m just stating that it isn’t right for certain groups of people not to talk about subjects that are important to them as long as there are moderators their it shouldn’t be a problem. You are denying someone’s freedom of speech and yes bigotry does exist today and is going strong the ladies I had confrontation with were all heterosexual women judging me for my choices in pictures of my own body and art . When they clearly viewed Gay men having sex in art form full engagement. People can’t pic and choose what they think is appropriate for them and then judge me for showing my breast.breast are art. The porn they viewed with excitement was also art there’s no difference so before you judge please get the whole picture. Yes these are the ladies coming to your forum they don’t teach knitting classes |
moonie 13.10.2020 13:39 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Moonie,I’m talking respectful I’m just stating that it isn’t right for certain groups of people not to talk about subjects that are important to them as long as there are moderators their it shouldn’t be a problem. You are denying someone’s freedom of speech and yes bigotry does exist today and is going strong the ladies I had confrontation with were all heterosexual women judging me for my choices in pictures of my own body and art . When they clearly viewed Gay men having sex in art form full engagement. People can’t pic and choose what they think is appropriate for them and then judge me for showing my breast.breast are art. The porn they viewed with excitement was also art there’s no difference so before you judge please get the whole picture. Yes these are the ladies coming to your forum they don’t teach knitting classesI couldn't give a rats arse about you, your sexuality, your breasts or anything else. I have no problem with anyone being gay, straight or otherwise. Queenchat is a Queen Forum. For Discussion relating to Queen - The band. I'm sure that there are many dedicated forums that will allow you to discuss whatever you want to and to share tit pics with like minded people. Whatever floats your boat. But I'm not interested. Cheerio.. |
Vali 13.10.2020 13:54 |
...and this is it just wanted to write my last post here. Thanks Richard, YV and all the fine people I met through the years. Great memories. I miss the good and healthy times. But I'm glad I can still read many of you somewhere else, in a better site. Queenzone. QZ. Thanks a lot ... and Goodbye. |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 13:55 |
So people aren’t allowed to talk about subjects related to their orientation it’s their freedom of speech all other things are allowed that’s my point it’s bigotry. The human body is art and my point was you guys are letting people within your forum that discuss these topics and as you call it are like minded people brenski just doesn’t know it yet.Thanks for your honest and time!!!!!!!! If you look back it looks like you are the rude one and your like minded closed minded people. Your species is doomed because it’s in capability to accept and to love are all you lurkers seeing this no acceptance this is the new forum .bigotry and no acceptance, compassion or love. Good company will be there thread name and I bet there will be a lot of private activity moderators won’t see because I was in a private fb group with this ladies and some of the stuff embarrassed me.Oh these people saying goodbye like they are leaving most of them are already over to the other forum and have been for some time. |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 15:58 |
And brenski helped create the downfall here I think that’s why a certain lady was didn’t want to go over and speak to him. Yes I remember you coming over on our religion topic over here raising hell brenski babenski isn’t that a reflex????He can’t help himself I guess he doesn’t only despise us F’s he hates God lovers too which some of us are and some us aren’t no big deal. But don’t judge my faith.When my lord has gotten me many dark times in my life. Yes brenski would just love to use the F word he is dying too.Would he ban himself I don’t think so.He would come here to get his troll fix what’s he gonna do now. |
Saint Jiub 13.10.2020 15:59 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: So people aren’t allowed to talk about subjects related to their orientation it’s their freedom of speech all other things are allowed that’s my point it’s bigotry. The human body is art and my point was you guys are letting people within your forum that discuss these topics and as you call it are like minded people brenski just doesn’t know it yet.Thanks for your honest and time!!!!!!!! If you look back it looks like you are the rude one and your like minded closed minded people. Your species is doomed because it’s in capability to accept and to love are all you lurkers seeing this no acceptance this is the new forum .bigotry and no acceptance, compassion or love. Good company will be there thread name and I bet there will be a lot of private activity moderators won’t see because I was in a private fb group with this ladies and some of the stuff embarrassed me.Oh these people saying goodbye like they are leaving most of them are already over to the other forum and have been for some time.Yawn |
Fireplace 13.10.2020 16:08 |
Sad but quite understandable. Thanks for maintaining it this long Richard, it's been an informative and enjoyable ride while it lasted. |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 17:08 |
Saint Juib, Is another one that has been over there for some time he likes to stir up trouble as well. Just on a more lower behind the scenes level font be fooled. As you can see I’m just nicely discussing the pros and cons of a forum I font think is fair to a certain group of people and you see the juevenile behavior I get in return . They tell on them selves. Yawn go take a nap this no place to sleep I don’t see a bed lol!!! |
Saint Jiub 13.10.2020 17:19 |
Just flash your tits (as usual), and I'm sure you'll find a bed. |
CHEVYMAN 13.10.2020 17:33 |
Saint Juib, that’s funny I’m married have been for 27 years since I was 18 to the same person been with one man my whole life. I find nothing sexual about photographing the human body it’s a beautiful thing to do. If you choose to make something filthy out of it then that’s your buisness. But I have had many compliments on the beauty of my pjotographs and that’s all they are.I don’t flash anyone a woman’s breast in photography have a beauty about them my friend took one of her bare breasted nursing her newborn son. It captured the most special moment I ever saw. God made breast for man to view and women too and enjoy I’m not ashamed pleasure is part of my culture. |
Penetration_Guru 13.10.2020 18:04 |
This thread has turned out to be the entire forum in microcosm. Starts of respectful and interesting, ends up in facile mudslinging. Of that 3Gb, 75% will need pruning out to form an archive worthwhile of the QueenZone name at its peak. |
Ozz 14.10.2020 01:45 |
Thank you for all these years Richard. I hope the data will be available . That would be great! |
soxtalon 14.10.2020 03:31 |
A bittersweet ending. I had a lot of enjoyment from this site and made a few friends. I never posted a whole lot but really was excited to learn as much as I did from people. Much love and respect to those who deserve it. You know who you are. |
Costa86 14.10.2020 06:20 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: This thread has turned out to be the entire forum in microcosm. Starts of respectful and interesting, ends up in facile mudslinging. Of that 3Gb, 75% will need pruning out to form an archive worthwhile of the QueenZone name at its peak.Precisely. Why anyone engages in these back and forth BS arguments, or why what folks like CHEVYMAN say is even entertained with a response, is beyond me. CHEVYMAN, just stfu. Nobody cares. The only point of this thread is to either say goodbye or to try and save QZ or its content. You've managed to turn this post by Richard, meant to tell us that he's pulling the plug on QZ, into a pathetic realisation of why the plug needs to be pulled. Why not concentrate on the suggestions that either (1) Richard can sell/transfer QZ to someone else to keep it going or (2) the contents of the forum can be saved, hence preserving all the good stuff and information which has accumulated here over the past two decades? |
CHEVYMAN 14.10.2020 06:28 |
Then someone step up and do it your not addressing insults towards me by men and I’m a woman so please someone step up !!!!!!!!! |
Penetration_Guru 14.10.2020 07:56 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Then someone step up and do it your not addressing insults towards me by men and I’m a woman so please someone step up !!!!!!!!!No need to play the gender card. Your user name strongly suggests masculinity, so there's no basis for complaining that any insults you perceive are based on your gender. And in any case, society is much further along the equality line that it used to be, so shouldn't you be glad that you're getting the same treatment, not metaphorically raising a lace glove to your forehead and fainting dramatically? Finally - you give plenty of insults. Play with fire, get burned. |
FreddieDarling 14.10.2020 10:12 |
Thank you, Richard Orchard for all your hard work and dedication in keeping this wonderful platform going for so long. I know many thousands appreciate your diligence and passion, and we shall all miss Queen Zone very much. So many of us have been able to forge new like-minded friendships from your forum, as well as learning learning a wealth of new information. This site has been invaluable and I am sure never been more important than these last few difficult months when so much of our natural socialising and freedoms have been curtailed. I too have pre-ordered Thor and Lee's book and it is one of the few glimmers on what seems like a very bleak horizon currently. I hope that the data on QZ can somehow be harvested and preserved in some manner on some beta-site or some such thing. For it all to vanish seems akin to a great museum burning to the ground :,-( I wish you every happiness and luck and good health, Richard, and indeed to all the souls out there who joined our merry band of brother and sisters. Take Care and Stay Safe! :{}) (<- That is meant to be a face mask! ) Kindest Regards FreddieDarling (AKA Nicola) |