QueenZone discussion #1601760

CHEVYMAN wrote: Anyone that’s a true Freddie fan will ban together and follow the others that have already encountered her. Ignore her and isolate her. She claims to have taken care of AIDS patients in the 80’s . I find that scary. I needed help when I was paralyzed with gbs. I cringe at the thought of someone that mean wiping my ass or crotch. Those poor people that saddens me. I will ignore if you will.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Anyone that’s a true Freddie fan will ban together and follow the others that have already encountered her. Ignore her and isolate her. She claims to have taken care of AIDS patients in the 80’s . I find that scary. I needed help when I was paralyzed with gbs. I cringe at the thought of someone that mean wiping my ass or crotch. Those poor people that saddens me. I will ignore if you will.

matt z wrote: Scammed? Geez talk about revealing piracy

FreddieDearie wrote: Don’t worry. For those who want to read it but don’t want to pay the money, I have a friend that is in publishing and is going to scan the book and it will be uploaded so people don’t have to be scammed.

CHEVYMAN wrote: No gaps in Freddie’s life and this was one it will be interesting right?He wouldn’t want his fans talking shit about his friends just like he would want his friends to respect his fans. Let’s do that. Anyone that has badmouthed them has used bad judgement. Let the book come out first at least and then make your decision. I think anything about Freddie will be interesting he was a spitfire and full of energy it seemed.

Jo T. wrote:

FreddieDearie wrote: Don’t worry. For those who want to read it but don’t want to pay the money, I have a friend that is in publishing and is going to scan the book and it will be uploaded so people don’t have to be scammed.

Why would your friend who works in PUBLISHING scan and upload Thor and Lee's book? It would be a violation of federal copyright law. Have you ever read the copyright page of books? The below is an example of standard verbiage: "All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopy, recording, or any information storage and retrieval system, without the prior written permission of the publisher." Your friend "in publishing" would be breaking the law. It's a crime. Thor and Lee could seek an intellectual property attorney to sue for copyright violation.

CHEVYMAN wrote: How do you know what he talked with them about he took more pictures with them than he did anybody.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I’m so glad I got smart friends about copyright stuff

CHEVYMAN wrote: Freddie wouldn’t care he like to spend money too lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHEVYMAN wrote: Thor being the little stud he was didn’t know he was famous he just thought he was hot. Thor’s like a beagle he sniffs them good looking guys out lol!!!!!!!!

Jo T. wrote: @FreddieDearie, I'm afraid the "fair use doctrine" won't protect your friend "in publishing" from his/her actions of scanning someone else's copyrighted book and uploading it for all to read.

Jo T. wrote: You spelled it out yourself. What are the "certain circumstances" it would be allowed in your friend's case? It would not stand up in the court of law.

Saint Jiub wrote: Chevy - What is the title of this thread?

FreddieDearie wrote: No one here has mentioned copying the book in it's entirety. However many things may be posted in order to comment and critique. The burden of proof rests on the copyright owner, who must demonstrate the impact of the infringement on commercial use of the work. When people post things, sometimes that SPURS ON more ”business” for the copyright owner. The supposed ’harm’ would need to be demonstrated and direct correlation found.

Jo T. wrote: You originally wrote "For those who want to read it but don’t want to pay the money, I have a friend that is in publishing and is going to scan the book and it will be uploaded so people don't have to be scammed."

Jo T. wrote: Please, don't tell me you NEVER intended to scan the book IN ITS ENTIRETY, till I called you out on copyright violation.

Jo T. wrote: Your intent is venal, purely venal.

Jo T. wrote: I don't have any objections to critiques of a book, like book reviewers who may cite PASSAGES.

Jo T. wrote: However, when YOU offer to upload somebody else's copyrighted book,

Jo T. wrote: how would it NOT negatively "impact the infringement on commercial use of the work" - by its very nature?

Jo T. wrote: It's like the saying "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" You want to freely give away the milk, so to speak, SOMEBODY ELSE'S milk,

Jo T. wrote: ...to deliberately deprive the owners of the cow (authors of the book) the potential to maximize their earnings (the price of the cow). That's how financial "harm" could be demonstrated in the court of law.

Petal wrote: Freddiedearie why do you spend so much time bitching about people apparently betraying Freddie.

Petal wrote: Freddie isn't here now and can't be affected by any of it, his parents are no longer alive either. What does it now matter who brought a book out first and who started this so called chain of events of books.

Petal wrote: Didn't Freddie say to Jim B 'never make me boring'.

Petal wrote: Actually I lie as the only thing that has tainted Freddie a little for me is if he knew he was HIV positive when he carried on sleeping around and entered a relationship. I felt so shocked when I heard Mary say this during a radio interview in 2011. If this is true, I really think it's something she should have kept to herself. Her words lowered my opinion of Freddie and no doubt had the same effect as many others

Saint Jiub wrote: If Freddie found learned of his AIDs diagnosis in early 986 before the Magic Tour,

Saint Jiub wrote: Jim would have likely already been HIV infected.

Saint Jiub wrote: HIV tests were just starting to be used in 1985.and were not reliable. As I recall, Jim's relationship with Freddie started in March 1985 (St Pat's Day).

Thereuhaveit wrote: I was thinking about my comment and realize that there's more of an inconsistency than I'd considered. I think what I'm remembering from the interview is Mary's version of the doctor telling her that Freddie has AIDS. I think that comes from 'The Untold Story' though it might have been from another documentary. While I don't think she gives a specific date during her interview, by the time of that documentary, it was commonly understood that he found out in '87. It's in a different venue which I've read, that she mentions that she and Freddie "knew" at the end of the Magic Tour, fully a year-and-a-half before the April '87 diagnosis. Again, he might have suspected, but it's only after the '87 date that he and Jim used condoms.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Mary was devastating by Freddie’s AIDS diagnoses I think she had always played his right hand man or woman. She wanted him back and wanted Garden lodge from the time she picked it out fort him. She wanted all the glory even to be the important one about his AIDS diagnosis. Miss perfect wasn’t so perfect she was in love with a gay man and would risk anything to even be his widow which she did.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Bottom line she shuttered at the word gay and Freddie’s lifestyle wasn’t pleasing to her. So she worked against everyone in it.Freadie dearie that books gonna happen

Freddie Mercury said: “All my lovers ask me why they can't replace [MARY], but it's simply impossible. I don't feel jealous of her lovers because, of course, she has a life to lead, and so do I Basically, I try to make sure she's happy with whoever she's with and she tries to do the same for me... I treat Mary as my common-law wife...It’s where the heart is that matters. We’re happy with each other and it doesn't matter what other people think. We believe in each other. SO, FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE! Mary is very independent about the life I lead. But it is a kind of understanding that doesn’t come overnight. We have gone through a lot of ups and downs in our times together, but that has made our relationship all the stronger. I know a lot of people find it difficult to understand our relationship, and, yes it is an odd bond, but other people who come into our lives just have to except it. WE LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH AND LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER ”

CHEVYMAN wrote: how are you gonna republish a book nobody wants by the likes of you. To be able to be liked and nobody foes.

CHEVYMAN wrote: As far as AIDS my uncle died with it it real doesn’t matter where you got it who you were friends with and went out with when you contracted it. The fact is my uncle worked for an airline company he was a mechanic supervisor which required him to fly all over the place he had spent numerous visits in Newyork as well. But it’s not for certain that’s where he got it he had slept with men all over the world where he worked and traveled. It wasn’t in a back alley either he stayed in nice hotels. My point is you got it you died end of story. It doesn’t matter who introduced who people were sleeping around and getting it they put themselves at risk end of story.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Porn industry look how many died there they were just doing their jobs. They didn’t go to work thinking they were going to get their shot or dose of AIDS. AIDS had killed the most beautiful talented pornstars in the 80’s. Bartenders were dying left and right. The bartenders weren’t all gay neither some of them were bisexual. I know that’s a dirty word and nobody likes to here it but it’s true. Women were sleeping with these bartenders and getting the virus too.

CHEVYMAN wrote: How are they lying?

FreddieDearie wrote: Don’t worry. For those who want to read it but don’t want to pay the money, I have a friend that is in publishing and is going to scan the book and it will be uploaded so people don’t have to be scammed.

Jo T. wrote: People can reach their own conclusions about your ORIGINAL intent. If your friend plans to "scan" the book and upload it for readers "who don't want to pay the money," it sounds like an attempt to sabotage sales.

Jo T. wrote: Why would a reader buy a book if it's available online for free?

Jo T. wrote: It was never initially about offering consumers "excerpts" or a "free sample" so they can make informed choices. You altered your narrative later.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Freddie Dearie,I think you are a Mary loving troll.I have come to that conclusion.

CHEVYMAN wrote: There are gonna be those Freddie fans that are gonna physically own the book it will be a collector.

CHEVYMAN wrote: All those sexy gay men I truly hope there are pool pics .All women want to own books with nice looking men especially premenapausal women , So the plan may not work as well as you think look at the followers on their threads.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I bet Jim Beach about shit himself.

CHEVYMAN wrote: What you haven’t thought Thor and Lee’s followers out number the troll ratio so knock yourself out.

CHEVYMAN wrote: By the way I donate my book to whoever couldn’t get one so when their ready please give it to someone that doesn’t have one. I will end up purchasing another one it’s all good thanks!!!!

FreddieDearie wrote:

CHEVYMAN wrote: Anyone that’s a true Freddie fan will ban together and follow the others that have already encountered her. Ignore her and isolate her. She claims to have taken care of AIDS patients in the 80’s . I find that scary. I needed help when I was paralyzed with gbs. I cringe at the thought of someone that mean wiping my ass or crotch. Those poor people that saddens me. I will ignore if you will.

My patients and their families appreciated what I did for them. I’m only “mean” (honest with) to those who betray and lie about Freddie.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: You need to talk to a mental health professional. That is serious advice. Your posts here are not healthy. The same applies to this chevy-type.

Steve Jobs said: Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently — they’re not fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can’t do is ignore them because they change things… they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.

CHEVYMAN wrote: You are nuts lady my home is on about 10 acres and was purchased in 2012 thss as is not ancient. It’s also by the lake side therapeutic.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Thomas Quinn I hope you are a Thor and Lee supporter if so please leave some kind comments. Thanks!!!!!!

CHEVYMAN wrote: If drearie were a true Freddie fan and not homophobic she would support this book.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I’m across many states and I support it.

CHEVYMAN wrote: We have to stick together no matter what part of the world we are from or how much money we have.I live in the biggest bible bell state in the world probably . To me love is love I’m an outsider.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I know there are more Queen lovers out there that want his missing story too.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Freddie wanted to reach people like him through his music and I think he did. Queen were for the weirdos the outcasts people society didn’t want. He sang with PRIDE even back in 1980 liberal Newyork. Don’t you wanna know his story?

CHEVYMAN wrote: Sad but true a lot of gays and bisexuals loved ones are homophobes . I like it all I raised my children not to be thank God they aren’t. I and my husband had the same friends growing up so he knew I had girlfriend . I love all people I don’t have a problem with you drearie except you not admitting your not fond of gays and that’s the real reason I have a problem with you. I have more respect for a person that admits to me that they have have a problem with someone being gay rather than messing with their book they have worked on very hard just because you don’t want to admit you don’t like what society calls the norm.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Yes drearie I had a home I was paying on I became sick with the gbs virus we had to sell it so we would not be sued for my medical bills that were outrages. So we owned our lake side 2012 4 bedroom mobile home free and clear so we moved in it. Anyone would do the same I never was able to return to work. I had to file for disability. I made really good money in financing so yes we had to sell our home

CHEVYMAN wrote: My husband is a educated man graduated from OSU okmulgee tech in 1996. He had a career in commercial heating and air and refrigeration they make about 27 dollars an hour which isn’t bad.He decided to go to fleet training and got certified took a huge pay cut because that’s what he wanted to do and with my good salary we could afford it. I didn’t expect to get sick and when I did yes it did hurt us financially but he will retire with full cop be if it’s at 20 dollars an hour . We have all benefits which are very well. I’m alive which is a blessing.I have my friends he has his it’s always been that way I won’t change my friends for anyone that’s were I fit in. That’s were I belong. I have children and he is their father I wouldn’t change that for the world. I just don’t understand why people don’t admit why they are against Thor and Lee fans she is side stepping it can you see it??????

CHEVYMAN wrote: I worked for Toyota many years I had blue cross blue shield insurance.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I didn’t vote heifer

CHEVYMAN wrote: I worked for Toyota many years

CHEVYMAN wrote: I don’t practice conservative beliefs like my ancestors I’m an outsider.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Thor doesn’t like you.

CHEVYMAN wrote: We fight against our conservative teachings and I’m one of them.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Toyota isn’t a small dealership it’s in the US we deal with China and everywhere.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I had blue cross blue shield insurance. I was in the hospital and in rehab over a year they paid 80 percent I still owed 20 percent that’s with most insurances I had a rare disease dummy.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I made an awesome salary

CHEVYMAN wrote: You must be foreign if you don’t know Toyota is a huge dealership

CHEVYMAN wrote: Back to donations !!!! Donate in September round two do it again. Book signings and travel aren’t cheap.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Yes I do I knew the owner many years and then his son ran it. Concentrate on the book.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Oh by the way I chose to remain in Oklahoma both of my grandmothers children died at young ages and she raised me so I felt I should take care of her. So yes I chose to stick around and take care of my family member that needed me.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I was taught when you give you give without asking questions what the money is for

CHEVYMAN wrote: I graduated college thank you Bacone college an Indian college. I’m a blanket ass

CHEVYMAN wrote: That means an Indian

CHEVYMAN wrote: Your a Christian??????????????????????????????

CHEVYMAN wrote: I also believe medical professionals are supposed to be caring, helpful, and supportive to disabled persons. I have never seen a nurse behave the way I have this woman it scary.

CHEVYMAN wrote: You know I really can’t believe the level of unkind things that have been said mainly against me which none of them are true.

CHEVYMAN wrote: I want to hear more about Freddie’s fun spirit with his friends because I think it to be genuine.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Sir, if you don’t mind me saying on my behalf your out of line this lady is attacking me like crazy like she always has everyone else.

CHEVYMAN wrote: You may need to see someone if you can’t have a civil conversation with someone talking about a book about to be out about Freddie unless you are one of the ones that are against it yourself. If your are please show yourself so things can move on. Basically what I want to do is weed out folks that aren’t for the book they seemed to be starting and treating the two authors terribly.

CHEVYMAN wrote: That way you guys can’t hide your out in the open the positive fans and new comers can’t be tainted by your negativity towards the project.

CHEVYMAN wrote: TUHI, Your right I’m sure Freddie suspected he might have the virus but as far as Mary knowing before everyone else I doubt it. I think it would be whomever he was having sexual relations with.

Freddie Mercury said: I think Mary has gone through just about everything with me. She's about the only person I can think of. She has the depth and the quah‘ties to adapt to me and talk to me about very serious things.

CHEVYMAN wrote: That was Jim and I think he was in Ireland at the time.

CHEVYMAN wrote: She seemed to always have to put herself in the most important informed position in his life. Well this time she got news that would change things forever. Her time to play or toy with her fantasy was running out and he had a death sentence which was so very sad.

CHEVYMAN wrote: JT, I never got a chance to address you yesterday I agree with you but I really think when it comes down to it fans will want to own this book just as much as any other book about Freddie. They will make good profit off their books regardless of what fan bass and online distractions interrupt with. Which ends with truth and honesty will always win.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Petal, I get what your saying too that made me think too surely he didn’t know and go infecting people. Any best friend should’ve kept their mouth shut your right.

FreddieDearie wrote: They’ll probably end up being sued by the publishing company for fraud,

Jo T. wrote:

FreddieDearie wrote: They’ll probably end up being sued by the publishing company for fraud,

The book has yet to be released. You haven't even read it. Yet, you prematurely pronounce it a "fraud." Help me understand. On what legal basis would the book constitute fraud? Please give clear examples.

Invisible Woman wrote: I really don't see any problem here. Whoever wants to buy a book in the countries where it will be published, will buy it. Who doesn't want the book, won't buy it. There is no reason to argue about it. Thor and Lee have the right to publish their book. Posting only bad things about a book that hasn’t been published yet doesn’t make sense.

CHEVYMAN wrote: Very true Invisible Woman!

CHEVYMAN wrote: Invisible Woman, I hope you enjoyed their threads minus the the trolls. They had some pretty interesting stuff. I hope you plan to purchase their book it will be a nice read and a change from the regular Queen reads.

FreddieDearie wrote:

Steve Jobs said: Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently — they’re not fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can’t do is ignore them because they change things… they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.

CHEVYMAN wrote: She won’t respond to anybody but me JT she likes a challenge a bit of a spitfire that’s why she won’t respond to anyone else. She wants a good argument . Someone that don’t back down. I’m not arguing with her anymore for the sake of the book and for the sake of the ladies and people on this thread it’s getting nowhere and I have read past arguments with others and none have endured the destruction ours has which has been very damaging to all have had to read. I apologise to you all please forgive me this situation has really hurt me for you guys not myself because you all are great fans of Freddie Mercury and deserve better that’s why I won’t be returning to argue with her that is not Freddie’s vision or intent for his fans. Please don’t engage and follow in my footsteps it’s not honorable or respectful in anyway. My temper is my demon that haunts me.