CHEVYMAN 08.08.2020 14:27 |
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CHEVYMAN 08.08.2020 14:34 |
This has been something that has bothered me for a long time. He writes these books one way which I believe to be true. Then he goes against everything he has ever said joins Queen management gets involved with borap reads a script and says yep that’s what happened. That was my dear best friend. It’s like he won’t be involved in anything that goes against Jim Beach and company. Has he signed a contract. Is it about money. You let your tears pour in front of the fans .. |
CHEVYMAN 08.08.2020 14:45 |
I see so many pics with him and Freddie and friends. He wasn’t just an employee it seemed he was included in some of the fun too it appeared. I just don’t get what happened. I know there have to be other fans that feel the same way. A while back I saw him and Rudi which also worked tightly with Queen many years promoting. It made me want to scream!!!!!!!!I know a fan from Texas from our old thread that likes to bird watch is curious about this subject as well. Do you have any input why his visions might have changed?Any others noticed a change in Peter I just want to scream traitor sometimes. |
FreddieDearie 08.08.2020 16:11 |
His traitor isn’t is in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful. |
FreddieDearie 08.08.2020 16:11 |
His traitor isn’t is in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful. |
Thereuhaveit 08.08.2020 22:21 |
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FreddieDearie 08.08.2020 22:38 |
His traitorous behavior ws in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful. |
Invisible Woman 08.08.2020 22:58 |
^ All right, we understand what you mean. You don't have to repeat the same thing so many times. |
FreddieDearie 08.08.2020 23:25 |
Correcting some typos: however if you actually have some valid information that contradicts what I've said, I'm all ears. I change my opinions based on facts. I’m open to being convinced otherwise His traitorous behavior wad in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful. |
matt z 09.08.2020 14:54 |
Four times. Yet without sources or examples. Not denying it's a possibility. I haven't followed Phoebe's trail for a long long time. Just indicating such a blanket assertion would usually benefit from examples |
CHEVYMAN 09.08.2020 19:42 |
Well one example would be side stepping and saying everything in the film about Freddie was mostly correct. We all know it wasn’t that’s one example. He wasn’t crying and depressed over a woman he was relieved of the heavy burden I’m sure.The project he supposedly had with Rudi he was never really involved with Queen dealings like he is now. It makes wonder have they paid him to keep his mouth shut and roll with the program.He just seems different to me I can’t put my finger on it. |
FreddieDearie 10.08.2020 06:46 |
Chevy man, It would make more logical sense that if Phoebe ever had a NDA of some kind, that would've been done as he was leaving Garden Lodge. I would say he more free to speak his truth now than earlier on. |
Godhank5233 12.08.2020 07:37 |
Thank you all for your kindness to me, I wish you good health and good luck! Vipsitelife |
Vocal harmony 12.08.2020 09:25 |
FreddieDearie wrote: Correcting some typos: however if you actually have some valid information that contradicts what I've said, I'm all ears. I change my opinions based on facts. I’m open to being convinced otherwise His traitorous behavior wad in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful.You couldn't re post that and correct the typo's again could you? Only its not very clear what your getting at! |
thomasquinn 32989 12.08.2020 10:00 |
"I change my opinions based on facts" Followed by: "traitorous behavior", "colluding together", "spin her tales", "making money off of the fans", "keep lying", "the liar he is". Riiiight. What's left of this place has degenerated into a venue for religious revival meetings for the mentally ill, spam-fest 2020 and a bag of assorted nuts. |
CHEVYMAN 12.08.2020 20:37 |
Tomas Quinn, Are you the head peanut |
FreddieDearie 14.08.2020 23:39 |
Vocal harmony wrote: You couldn't re post that and correct the typo's again could you? Only its not very clear what your getting at!Sure as many times as you or I need. Happy to oblige. However if you actually have some valid information that contradicts what I've said, I'm all ears. I change my opinions based on facts. I’m open to being convinced otherwise. His traitorous behavior was in the beginning and he has since tried to redeem himself. I believe at first he was trying to go along with Jim Hutton on things because the two of them ended up colluding together with Barbara Valentin helping Leslie Ann Jones spin her tales and going off to the Fan Club conventions where Hutton was making money off of the fans selling memorabilia. (some were given to the fan club and auctioned off and Hutton would get a percentage, and other’s he’d sell to fans via direct sale.). Then Hutton died and Phoebe knew he couldn’t keep lying for Hutton and he has since tried to tread the line between calling Jim out for the liar he is, and redeeming himself by being more truthful. |
FreddieDearie 14.08.2020 23:57 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: "I change my opinions based on facts" Followed by: "traitorous behavior", "colluding together", "spin her tales", "making money off of the fans", "keep lying", "the liar he is". Riiiight.What is your point? Speaking for myself, yes, I have points of view and judgments. Some harsh, some not. ????? I am also willing and able to change them if you or anyone else is able to provide sufficient evidence to the contrary. |
CHEVYMAN 19.08.2020 03:27 |
Ok peter Fresstone speaking of cashing in has been for a while. Well Queen is taking good care of him now the traitor he turned on his own people. If anybody is cashing in it’s him everytime he turns around. |
FreddieDearie 19.08.2020 05:02 |
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FreddieDearie 19.08.2020 05:13 |
DING DING DING DING DING DING Yup. Peter's nothing special. One of many cashing in on Freddie. Over three decades of living off of Freddie’s death. And Queen has always been able, to count of Freddie to be their primary cash cow, ...to this day. |
FreddieDearie 19.08.2020 05:14 |
FreddieDearie wrote:CHEVYMAN wrote: Ok peter Fresstone speaking of cashing in has been for a while. Well Queen is taking good care of him now the traitor he turned on his own people. If anybody is cashing in it’s him everytime he turns around.DING DING DING DING DING DING |
Pushka 09.09.2020 02:02 |
FREDDIEDEARIE, You don't happen to hang around Quora and Facebook as Jean Canavan and Instagram and youtube as either sylvesterlechat.7 or hendricksgin do you? Only you read just like they or that one person does, a Jim Hutton hater with a following and now a Thor hater too. It would be interesting to read your version of Freddie's biography, including which men, women and don't forget the cats he slept with in all their glory. Have at it, why don't you? I'm sure you could write a quick synopsis for us all here, but don't forget to include your references for any facts and quotes, and a bibliography. Thank you |
Thereuhaveit 09.09.2020 18:15 |
Don't forget Jean Garaffo and Jim Gilbert. |
Pushka 10.09.2020 08:01 |
Haha, that's right, Jean Garaffo, and there was a Mary Austin at some time too I believe. It definitely is the same person as I've just seen a photo they sent of themselves in another thread. I think it's so sad that there is still this person going around on all forms of social media spreading hatred for a man who made Freddie happy in spite of their insistence that he was nothing more than a one night stand. I wonder if this person even is a Freddie fan with how much she focusses on Jim instead. It's just a shame that there are a group of followers who seem to hang onto her every sour word, and they are so nasty when conversing with fans of Freddie and Jim. |
CHEVYMAN 10.09.2020 17:17 |
I was kinda wondering fans that attended these concerts in the early 80s would have to be in their 60s by now. I’m sure some of the these devoted fans back then would have great respect for Freddie And Queen. I’m 47 and Queen was even before my time. I wish it hadn’t been. I’m saying this with shame of my own included but I have a feeling it’s not the senior fans on here behaving this way. It’s fans my age and younger and they are paving the way for these kids in the 20s and 30s to young to remember Freddie.What are we doing???I honestly admit I get tired of hearing on Mary I get the deep friendship and her devotion to him.I just feel Jim wasn’t the liar others make him out to be. None of us knew them. In Mary’s part I get she cared for Freddie and still does probably but mistreatment of visiting friends isn’t acceptable. The bickering between the whole household was unacceptable Freddie seemed to be generous to everyone. He had love for all his friends as well as lovers. |
CHEVYMAN 10.09.2020 17:34 |
My opinion but I think Freddie was a spirited soul that had room for many lovers until he met Jim. He had room for special loves in his life for his friends. If he and Jim had an open arrangement it’s very possible yes a lot of men back then did I think. It’s better than cheating rules apply of course. Freddie was a bit complex if you ask me and not your average guy could keep up with him I bet. A different fella every night he must have had one hell of a libido at his age.i bet that was nice.Basically the guys he spent his time with will know those answers about these questions and all they are gonna release is they never witnessed him with women during their time with him. Good for them. So they will take the answers to this mystery man to their graves and so will Mary Austin I guess. |
FreddieDearie 15.09.2020 23:21 |
Thereuhaveit wrote: Don't forget Jean Garaffo and Jim Gilbert.Sure. Maybe. Why not. :shrug: At, one point people thought my name was ”Sindy” and ”Lisa” and ”Katie” and ”Donna” and ”Kim” and ”Kelly” and ”Kristie” etc... Who ever I am I would never be stupid enough to use my real name. LOLOLOL. |
FreddieDearie 15.09.2020 23:36 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: I was kinda wondering fans that attended these concerts in the early 80s would have to be in their 60s by now. I’m sure some of the these devoted fans back then would have great respect for Freddie And Queen. I’m 47 and Queen was even before my time. I wish it hadn’t been. I’m saying this with shame of my own included but I have a feeling it’s not the senior fans on here behaving this way. It’s fans my age and younger and they are paving the way for these kids in the 20s and 30s to young to remember Freddie.What are we doing???You in particular seem to be misinforming them. I was 12 when I went t my first Queen concert. My mother wouldn't let me go so I snuck out of the house and went with some older friends. The next year, my mother went with me to see Elton John because she knew I would venture out on my own anyway. First time I smelled pot was at that Elton John concert. |
FreddieDearie 15.09.2020 23:44 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: I honestly admit I get tired of hearing on Mary I get the deep friendship and her devotion to him.I'm get tired of people lying about Mary. As long as people like yourselfmkeep lying about her there will be people to correct the record. Don't want to hear about Mary? Stop spreading disinformation about her. CHEVYMAN wrote: ...but mistreatment of visiting friends isn’t acceptable. The bickering between the whole household was unacceptable Freddie seemed to be generous to everyone. He had love for all his friends as well as lovers.Mary never mistreated Freddie’s employees. They were give three months to move and we're given reference packages and we're ALSO given a £20,000 advance on their inheritance. So yeah, I agree the bickering was unacceptable. That those three middle aged men EVER thought Mary had ANY obligation to care for their needs was beyond unreasonable and childish. Why ANYONE would think Mary had ANY obligation to adopt three grown ass men and keep them employed and paying their room and board is BEYOND ridiculous none-nonsensical. CHEVYMAN wrote:I just feel Jim wasn’t the liar others make him out to be. None of us knew them.People, don't have to have ”known them” to discern lies and inconsistencies. Jim definitely lied about Mary kicking them out of the house prematurely or unfairly. Phoebe has since come forth about this. Jim also lied about how he broke Freddie’s bones. He also lied about being upstairs when Freddie woke up and spoke for the last time. Phoebe clarified that Dave Clark was alone with Freddie when he asked to urinate and Dave came downstairs to find Phoebe and found BOTH Jim and Phoebe downstairs. There's lots of discoverable lies in Hutton’s book. As Mike Moran said: “Jimmy used to get drunk and embarrass everybody and that’s why HE WAS NEVER PRESENT at a lot of the things he claimed to be. ~ Mike Moran |
FreddieDearie 15.09.2020 23:54 |
Pushka wrote: Haha, that's right, Jean Garaffo, and there was a Mary Austin at some time too I believe. It definitely is the same person as I've just seen a photo they sent of themselves in another thread. I think it's so sad that there is still this person going around on all forms of social media spreading hatred for a man who made Freddie happy in spite of their insistence that he was nothing more than a one night stand. I wonder if this person even is a Freddie fan with how much she focusses on Jim instead. It's just a shame that there are a group of followers who seem to hang onto her every sour word, and they are so nasty when conversing with fans of Freddie and Jim.I don't spread hate about Hutton, I only spread truth. There’s no evidence he made Freddie happy, No one ever said he was a one night stand. Only that he wasn't very important to Freddie, there was obviously SOME level of a relationship there, but not what Hutton tried to make it out to be, As far as nastiness goes, everyone in the fandom have been nasty, including yourself. I’m not ”nice” to abusers, bullies, liars and hypocrites. Sue me. Rather do that than be complicit. |
FreddieDearie 16.09.2020 00:11 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: My opinion but I think Freddie was a spirited soul that had room for many lovers until he met Jim. He had room for special loves in his life for his friends. If he and Jim had an open arrangement it’s very possible yes a lot of men back then did I think. It’s better than cheating rules apply of course.Freddie had room for many lovers until he accepted he had HIV. Meeting Jim was beside the point. Quite obviously, Hutton didn't think they had an open relationship. Still, Freddie cheated on Jim and Jim cheated on Freddie. CHEVYMAN wrote: Basically the guys he spent his time with will know those answers about these questionsThe only people actually privy to Freddie and Jim’s relationship, Phoebe and Joe Fanelli are the ones who coined the phrase ”just the gardener” and for over half a decade never, believed Hutton was THE boyfriend the whole time Freddie was alive. CHEVYMAN wrote: and all they are gonna release is they never witnessed him with women during their time with him. Good for them.:shrug: Yeah. Most people recognize Freddie was gay. CHEVYMAN wrote: So they will take the answers to this mystery man to their graves and so will Mary Austin I guess.There’s no mystery really. Thor and Lee didn't witness much of Freddie and Jim. So, they can't have much to add. The two people who DID witness them didn't think Hutton was particularly special to Freddie. |
CHEVYMAN 16.09.2020 18:53 |
Thor and Lee never witnessed much time with Jim they said so themselves but they did spend time with Freddie out and about and they were close friends I stand behind that. Yes no mystery he was a gay man so don’t know why there is so much misunderstanding about the woman thing. Some men don’t like to have sex with women and it’s okay they don’t. It’s not leave it to beaver or Fathers knows best anymore. Or I love Lucy.Im also basically standing up for what I feel is right they like Mary Austin have been silent except for few words their book will not tell what dirty stories people think it will.Im leaving Jim out of this equation for now.Its obvious he and Mary feuded it had nothing to do with Thor or Lee or the New York Years.I believe to save face they will be no reference to interaction with women during those times and they may make it a point because I can see it being a little insulting to Gay men they realize they are gay and go through hell at home leave home to embrace their freedoms.No they don’t want nobody saying he is bisexual and sleeps with girls.So yes I think this may be included material I hope so. Freddie really struggled his parents made it hard for him too I read. But like most parents they came around. |
CHEVYMAN 16.09.2020 23:41 |
I don’t think 12 year olds can sneak into those type of concerts if so that would’ve been lovely.I was 7 in 81 were they touring then and 10 in 84 . How do you sneak in that young???? I was born in 73 so and a lot of these other posters were too. They couldn’t attend either they were too young.I went to my first concert and it was kiss I think and I was 17 in 1991. I don’t know we 70s kids missed out for sure. All the good music was in the 60s and 70s.Janis Joplin , Jim Hendrix, I was born in the wrong era. |
LilMal 17.09.2020 20:17 |
@Chevyman, whatever you write appear to be your personal assumptions or about yourself. Why should anyone care ? "I don’t think 12 year olds can sneak into those type of concerts if so that would’ve been lovely." If you weren't just interested in FM's private life , but had a look at other Queen sites, you'd noticed stories from very young Queen fans in the eighties. Just keep shaking my head. |
CHEVYMAN 18.09.2020 00:25 |
Ok lilmal, Isn’t it all just all just our opinions we really know nothing but what we read. I never said it was impossible to get into concerts at a young age I just didn’t in the the 80s because of my age. It’s all good if someone did.For one there has been so much disrespect to Freddie as a person here and his friends it’s a little hard not to look at his personal life. For one I understand how that end of things feel and it still I guess is speculation on the the poor man today. Music I love music I wish I had pursued my dreams if you look at Freddie’s early music it screams his personal life was in misery and Freddie was suffering. It’s hard to separate the two if you are and artist as well. Or have the capability to understand music and what drives the artist to write. Freddie’s pain with his sexuality and being who he wasn’t is what drove him to pour his heart out to his fans and to write those sad but beautiful melodies your talking about.Thanks for your opinion we all have one . |
CHEVYMAN 18.09.2020 00:45 |
It really kills me that he loved his fans so that he was basically telling them through his music I’m not this man you see. I’m somebody else I can’t be. His fans just thought they were either written for Mary or like he said in interviews they are about relationships. No they weren’t they were about him. His Friends that everyone belittle so much gave him someone to talk too and I think I might be wrong finally say fuck it this is me I’m gonna live my life as who I was meant to be no matter how long I live he said it in interviews he said he didn’t believe he would make old bones. Meaning he knew his careless unprotected sex was gonna kill him. He knew it was nobodies fault but his own.So that’s not my opinion those words were in a interview.Another interview he says fuck it I’m gonna sleep with everybody and everything. It disturbs me for anyone to cast blame on someone else for a grown mans actions.Thats enough on that subject. Freddie loved his men friends those garden lodge tapes told it all and yes he did want them to have a good time if he had been well he would’ve been right beside them. He wasn’t a passenger on the damn train I think he was a driver. He liked to party he accepted his fate he knew what he did end of story. |
CHEVYMAN 18.09.2020 01:12 |
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FreddieDearie 19.09.2020 05:16 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: HI |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 05:24 |
Oh my, goodness accidentally hit a letter My apologies guys.Lets have enjoyable convos not everybody agrees but let’s agree no attacks on people Freddie cared about . |
FreddieDearie 19.09.2020 05:25 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: I don’t think 12 year olds can sneak into those type of concerts if so that would’ve been lovely.I was 7 in 81 were they touring then and 10 in 84 . How do you sneak in that young???? I was born in 73 so and a lot of these other posters were too. They couldn’t attend either they were too young.I went to my first concert and it was kiss I think and I was 17 in 1991. I don’t know we 70s kids missed out for sure. All the good music was in the 60s and 70s.Janis Joplin , Jim Hendrix, I was born in the wrong era.I sneaked out of the house, I didn’t sneak into the concert. I went with some older friends, one of their mother’s drove us. But, it wasn’t hard for a 12 year old to go to concerts where I lived. |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 05:32 |
The first concert I attended was a kiss concert I loved it.Then it was Def Leppard in 1992 I love to watch their drummer. I was so in love with Joe Elliot.It must have been a real treat to see Queen in concert and watch Freddie hold that crowd in the palm of his hand. You guys were so lucky. |
FreddieDearie 19.09.2020 05:39 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Thor and Lee never witnessed much time with Jim they said so themselves but they did spend time with Freddie out and about and they were close friends I stand behind that. Yes no mystery he was a gay man so don’t know why there is so much misunderstanding about the woman thing. Some men don’t like to have sex with women and it’s okay they don’t. It’s not leave it to beaver or Fathers knows best anymore. Or I love Lucy.Im also basically standing up for what I feel is right they like Mary Austin have been silent except for few words their book will not tell what dirty stories people think it will.Im leaving Jim out of this equation for now.Its obvious he and Mary feuded it had nothing to do with Thor or Lee or the New York Years.I believe to save face they will be no reference to interaction with women during those times and they may make it a point because I can see it being a little insulting to Gay men they realize they are gay and go through hell at home leave home to embrace their freedoms.No they don’t want nobody saying he is bisexual and sleeps with girls.So yes I think this may be included material I hope so. Freddie really struggled his parents made it hard for him too I read. But like most parents they came around.Gay people are sexually attracted to people of the same gender, that doesn’t necessarily mean they “don’t like” sex with the opposite gender. I’m a straight woman, but that doesn't mean I couldn't enjoy sex with a woman, it's just not what I'm naturally or instinctively drawn to. I don't care what Lee and Thor will be writing, doesn't matter. They can tell their stories by writing a blog or something. I just wish ”friends” would stop making money off of telling stories about Freddie’s private life. Freddie’s mother didn't even leave money to the charity named after her son in her will, The Mercury Phoenix Trust, so not sure how much they ”got over it”. How you leave money for other charities, but not the one named after your own some seems pretty cold to me. |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 06:46 |
Well me myself have gay male friends my age and one or two Freddie’s age and the ones Freddie’s age I never witnessed them doing much but maybe touching someone’s boobs and yes they were mine. But that was it. There were far more interested in men of that evening and the super bowl.I have had one experience with a gay male of my age we went to school since we were five and we were both really stoned and drunk . We were both laying there like when we were kids and he had never had any girlfriends in school. He escaped that by playing all star sports. He asked me to to touch me boobs and I could touch him. I said okay we count to three and it was very awkward. It was like my brother or something. Then we just went back to watching the movie.It sounds like you might be a bisexual female most bisexual females like men better anyway I do. I will take a woman every now and then. |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 06:48 |
I started out with a girl though and then came the boys it’s hard to resist all that masculinity and ?????? |
FreddieDearie 19.09.2020 21:32 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: Well me myself have gay male friends my age and one or two Freddie’s age and the ones Freddie’s age I never witnessed them doing much but maybe touching someone’s boobs and yes they were mine. But that was it. There were far more interested in men of that evening and the super bowl.I have had one experience with a gay male of my age we went to school since we were five and we were both really stoned and drunk . We were both laying there like when we were kids and he had never had any girlfriends in school. He escaped that by playing all star sports. He asked me to to touch me boobs and I could touch him. I said okay we count to three and it was very awkward. It was like my brother or something. Then we just went back to watching the movie.It sounds like you might be a bisexual female most bisexual females like men better anyway I do. I will take a woman every now and then.Gay people are just like straight people. They have their inherent desires, but that doesn't mean that they think that others have ”cooties”. I am straight, but that doesn't mean I think that women have cooties or are unattractive. All that wanting to touch boobies or penis out of curiosity has nothing to do with basic sexual identity. That's just curiosity and experimentation. No, I'm not bisexual I may like to masturbate, but that doesn't define my sexuality or my sexual identity. It doesn't make me a ”self-sexual” or a ”mono-sexual”. I just understand that sexual pleasure comes in many forms. Touch feels good no matter who is doing it. That is not what defines someone’s sexuality. I would would have no issue identifying as bisexual if that's what I believed I was. However I believe I'm straight because I don't NEED a woman’s touch. I may be able to enjoy it, have fun. experiment with it, but I can live without it and never miss it or crave it. I don't ever want and don't believe I'm capable of living without a man’s touch or the profound companionship from a man that, at least for me, comes with monogamy with a man. Excuse me if my language is not exacting enough, these things are, complicated and hard to describe. But I'm just trying to explain that this notion that gay people are somehow ”ick-ed out” by people of the opposite sex is just not reality. There ARE some straight people who are ”icked-out” by the thought of sex with someone of the same sex... But I believe that, comes from societal bigotries that make people feel that homosexuality and therefore any homosexual act is inherently ”bad” or ”wrong” or ”dirty”. |
FreddieDearie 19.09.2020 21:33 |
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CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 22:02 |
Yes I get what your saying a body is a body to me it really doesn’t matter for the sake of physical sexual interaction. I don’t think I could emotionally go without a man though. They provide what I can’t get from women. So that’s why I didn’t stay with my high school gf . But yes I can have sex with a woman but I can’t fall in love with a woman like I can a man. Didn’t really understand it at 17 don’t understand it now. But I can go a very long time with no sexual encounter with a woman at all.I do like a man any mans gay or straight strong touch.I do have this one friend on line she is straight and I seen a pic of her finally on Twitter she has a real nice ass. I do get an itch sometimes but not like your gay female would. She has a really nice body she ever wants to experiment I wanna be that girl.She don’t have to worry about what to do I can take charge of the situation as long as she knows I can never be with a woman use them an lose them. |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 22:04 |
I’m rather strange!!!!!! |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 22:11 |
I identified as gay of course from 13 till 17 but from then on I understand why people use labels for me I don’t think they make one I’m just me. I also find many transgenders attractive and sexy .so what nothing wrong with that to me but to many they are like but you are married to a man. I even get this reaction from some gays that don’t know me yet and when they get to know me they understand I’m an a one of a kind breed lol!!!!!I don’t know it’s been a hard life!!! Theeres a Freddie song for every occasion. |
CHEVYMAN 19.09.2020 22:20 |
For the record everybody it’s not icky it’s all good under the hood or where ever your fantasies shall take you. Everyone shall or should try something at least once how you gonna know if you don’t try it. |
FreddieDearie 20.09.2020 00:00 |
CHEVYMAN wrote: For the record everybody it’s not icky it’s all good under the hood or where ever your fantasies shall take you. Everyone shall or should try something at least once how you gonna know if you don’t try it.Agreed. Good conversation. |
CHEVYMAN 21.09.2020 23:13 |
Does anyone know if peter ever had a bf I just feel for the man? Gosh all this hooking up and he always looks like he ain’t getting any. I know men got options. Freddie has been gone a while and I don’t ever hear of him with anyone. Surely he needs a little release from time to time.Maybe he has somebody for that all that build up would be hard on the prostate. It needs stimulation. |
CHEVYMAN 21.09.2020 23:15 |
Oh ok I’m naive someone just told me he probably stimulates himself good for you peter.Everyone should explore their bodies and know what you like. I just couldn’t bear him never getting any in his life and a man.ok a friend my perverted friend just told me he’s 70 that when his bf wasn’t around it didn’t matter who stimulated his prostate. One of their lady friends used too. OMG more than I needed to know I wonder how you do it to a man I’m scared to ask I think I will go home now lol!!!! |
CHEVYMAN 21.09.2020 23:35 |
And yes this is appropriate conversation it’s science I wanna know how the prostate of a man works and what gets them off lol!!!!! |
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