| thomasquinn 32989 05.04.2020 10:55 |
As most of you have probably heard, a little over a week ago, Bob Dylan unexpectedly released a new song, his first since 2012, called "Murder Most Foul". The main subject is the assassination of John F. Kennedy, but in the course of the nearly 17-minute track, Dylan references many of the great bands and musicians of the 20th century. He includes Queen in the fifth verse: "Play "Tragedy", play "Twilight Time" Take me back to Tulsa to the scene of the crime Play another one and "Another One Bites the Dust" Play "The Old Rugged Cross" and "In God We Trust" Ride the pink horse down that long, lonesome road Stand there and wait for his head to explode" If anyone is interested, have a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18 Lyrics with annotations: https://genius.com/Bob-dylan-murder-most-foul-lyrics I certainly did not expect to ever hear Bob Dylan make reference to Queen. |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 11:05 |
thomasquinn 32989 - yep i heard this last week. it's an interesting song, in that - it's very demanding (lyrically) while being incredibly understated (musically). i like that it serves a slice of history in the way it does. an intellectual "We Didn't Start The Fire", if you will. "Play Don Henley, play Glenn Frey - Take it to the limit and let it go by" genius. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.04.2020 11:41 |
It's definitely interesting and intriguing and I personally find it more than a little haunting at times (the almost ambient music with at times very bitter lyrics). Lots of subtle (as well as not so subtle) references to songs and lyrics in there. I was reminded of the way American Pie (Don McLean) obliquely references songs, artists and events, but in a very Bob Dylan kind of way, so I see what you mean with an intellectual "We Didn't Start The Fire". It's definitely a song Dylan-fans will be talking about for a long time to come. |
| Star* 05.04.2020 11:54 |
Bob Dylan another over hyped piece of boredom! |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 11:55 |
well - in the way that We Didn't Start The Fire is a "30-year Soundbite/Buzzword Bingo Odyssey" also (and i'm still racking the old grey matter on this one) - the melody is a direct lift of something else. if you get it, don't say here...because i'd quite like to work it out |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.04.2020 11:57 |
Gee, why am I not surprised that gerry doesn't like Dylan? "It makes my brain hurt" comes to mind. Roger's a big Dylan-fan. I'm pretty sure Freddie wouldn't agree with your assessment either. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.04.2020 12:03 |
brENsKi wrote: also (and i'm still racking the old grey matter on this one) - the melody is a direct lift of something else. if you get it, don't say here...because i'd quite like to work it outOk, no spoilers then. I'm not 100% sure, especially given Dylan's semi-parlando delivery and the low tempo, but I think there are parts from more than one melody in there. I do think there's one oldie that's more up front than others, but a *lot* slower than I know it. If I'm right (and that's definitely an "if"), the choice ties in well with the substance of this song and Dylan's own history. |
| Star* 05.04.2020 12:39 |
Freddie would be more impressed that Madonna gave reference to him in one of her tracks than drab Dylan. Mind you Dylan was legendary on The Magic Roundabout ! |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 12:44 |
SaddleBrownyou really have no idea. for someone who claims to love music - you have completely wasted your musical life in one narrow little lane. sure Queen, yep...but ffs Gerry, you cite Suzi-Q, Olivia Newton John and Abba. those artists (might be good) but hardly stretch the brain or ears musically. you're wasting your entire musical existence on vanilla. there's so much out there. you're missing out - and you don't even care. thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Ok, no spoilers then. I'm not 100% sure, especially given Dylan's semi-parlando delivery and the low tempo, but I think there are parts from more than one melody in there. I do think there's one oldie that's more up front than others, but a *lot* slower than I know it. If I'm right (and that's definitely an "if"), the choice ties in well with the substance of this song and Dylan's own history.i'm (sort of) delving through some unlikely sources. like for example (and it's been used a lot elsewhere, i know) - the piano 1:46 (repeated throughout) - i half expect Roger Taylor to follow it up with "this ship it sings - to the skies" also, and i have no idea why - it reminds me of Exile's "kiss you all over" |
| Star* 05.04.2020 13:11 |
Musical taste is one's own personal choice and for the record i like other things from The Beatles to Twisted Sister it really is a broad spectrum of musical direction so as per usual you know nothing about me so please stop trying to convince others that you do. |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 13:32 |
SaddleBrowni doubt you'd know a "musical direction" if it came with Satnav Instructions for finding it. any chance we can get back on track, TQ? any ideas on the sources of the melody? btw - i love the double meaning in the line: "Play it for Houdini - spinning around in his grave" brilliant stuff. the obvious allusion being he's still trying to escape, while the less obvious being that he'd be turning in his grave with anger at the assassination. |
| Star* 05.04.2020 14:40 |
@brENsKi You are the one asking all the questions so do not blame me for this thread going off track you are the master of derailing threads. Everyone has choices and you should not be critical of peoples choices or slag them off because its not all about you on here. |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 15:10 |
TQ - what do you reckon to the Fun In Space chord? |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.04.2020 15:59 |
Now this is very, very tenuous, but I was thinking in places the melody reminded me of "1913 Massacre", and old Woody Guthrie song Dylan also performed early on in his career. I'm going to link to Rambling Jack Elliott's version, a friend of Dylan's, which has a piano and is a little slower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWfHRcdSAk Most of it clearly sounds very different, but imagine Dylan treating that melody like he treats 'Great American Songbook' material on his covers albums of the 21st century. But maybe that's still too much of a stretch - it could be much more general than that, simply taking the talking blues-*style* he used so much earlier on rather than a particular song, and giving it the Bob Dylan-version of a crooner's rendition, like he's been doing on things like Shadows In The Night. I think the bit you're referring to is a move from tonic -> subdominant -> dominant -> subdominant -> tonic, and I'm not entirely sure, but I think the same happens in the Fun In Space-bit you're referring to. That bit back from the dominant to the subdominant is not uncommon in pop music, and I think Roger used it quite a few times. There's a whole lot in the lyrics in terms of imagery and references that I'm going to have to look at again and again. Sorry, I'm in a bit of a rush right now, but I promise I'll get back to you in this topic. |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 18:18 |
i'm thinking the Fun In Space thing also ties in with the very simple drum beat in both songs - almost like a heartbeat you'd hear from Ultrasound |
| The Real Wizard 05.04.2020 18:41 |
brENsK wrote: @brENsKi You are the one asking all the questions so do not blame me for this thread going off track you are the master of derailing threads. Everyone has choices and you should not be critical of peoples choices or slag them off because its not all about you on here.While I am not a big fan of Dylan myself, his importance in music and popular culture since the early 60s simply cannot be overstated. If you don't like him for some reason, that's fine. But anyone over the age of 8 should know that if you don't like something, you can resist that urge to say how much you dislike it in lieu of being respectful of those who have different tastes from you and not rain on their parade. You accuse Brenski of making this about himself. Do you not realize the irony that you are exhibiting the exact behaviour that you are accusing him of? Your entrance to this thread was to slag off Dylan. What were you hoping to add to the discussion by (erroneously) declaring Dylan to be "over hyped" in a way only a true philistine could ? |
| The Real Wizard 05.04.2020 18:57 |
Back to topic. This is a brilliant piece of music. So few artists remain relevant decade after decade. Dylan has done it again. It's a mourning for America - not just for JFK. The timing could not have been more perfect. |
| brENsKi 05.04.2020 20:58 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Back to topic. This is a brilliant piece of music. So few artists remain relevant decade after decade. Dylan has done it again. It's a mourning for America - not just for JFK. The timing could not have been more perfect.in the main it is a mourning of America, but i also think he's lamenting the world at large. lots of world references - Beatles, Queen, Tom Jones, Gerry & The Pacemakers, the Who etc. i think he's warning about the end of humanity itself. the arrhythmia in the "heartbeat" of the drums is sublime...and such an incredibly subtle way to get the message across. |
| Freddie Jupiter 05.04.2020 22:30 |
The thing I admire about Dylan is his integrity. He knew his performance at Live Aid sucked and consequently he apologised to his manager afterwards. Top bloke. Our crumbling world needs more people like him. |
| The Real Wizard 06.04.2020 03:36 |
brENsKi wrote: i think he's warning about the end of humanity itself. the arrhythmia in the "heartbeat" of the drums is sublime...and such an incredibly subtle way to get the message across.Great interpretation - I didn't see it that way. |
| Star* 06.04.2020 08:44 |
Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max! The Beatles are much more worthy! |
| brENsKi 06.04.2020 09:30 |
brENsK wrote: Real Wizard Dylan is over hyped and is as boring as a fart after drinking pepsi max! The Beatles are much more worthy!so you've finally discovered the Beatles. seriously, Gerry - you need to let more stuff in. Dylan is quite likely the greatest ever lyricist. Songs like "Hurricane" and "Shelter From The Storm" are incredible stories. So many great artists have covered his songs: Hendrix, Billy Joel, Etta James, Elvis Costello, Byrds, Manfred Mann/'s Earth Band, Clapton, Animals, Tom Petty, Roxy Music, Jefferson Starship, Beach Boys, Beatles, Bowie, Johnny Cash, Jackson Browne, Cher, Joe Cocker, CSN, Green Day, George Harrison, Elvis, Rolling Stones and many hundreds more. Bob Dylan is far and away the most covered artist on the planet. Surely, if all of the great and the good can see so much in his writing - then why are you so quick to dismiss him as "boring"? That shows an unparalleled level of musical blinkers on your part. you seriously need to give things a proper chance - you may learn something. You're a Queen fan, i get it. Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - wouldn't that be endorsement enough for you? |
| TomP63 06.04.2020 09:50 |
Roger Taylor covered Dylan's "Masters of War" - And a fine job he did, Roger's voice is in tip top shape, outstanding performance. Strangely enough the lyrics could be have written by Roger ain't it? Oh Gerry of Brensk what is the matter why oh why do you always take things so personal? You seem to have a strange habbit to hijack every topic, how come? Tom |
| Star* 06.04.2020 11:19 |
I am not hijacking anything i am merely giving my opinion. You guys get so narky if no one agrees with you. Dylan does not do it for me get it? Other Artists are far more vibrant to me than Dylan. Just because Roger Taylor likes Dylan does not make me want to say how wonderful he is and i think the sun shines out of his arse, in fact if you had watched "The Old Grey Whistle Test" back in 2002 they were asking viewers to vote for there favourite concert performance and as i remember Bruce Springsteen Queen Bob Dylan Lynyrd Skynyrd and a few other artists were up for voting by the viewers and the winner by miles was Queen's Christmas Concert from 1975 ! Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury was ! |
| Freddie Jupiter 06.04.2020 11:22 |
@Brensk, the jackasses think that you are me, Freddie Jupiter. |
| Star* 06.04.2020 11:28 |
@Freddie Jupiter Well does not take much to confuse that lot lol |
| Freddie Jupiter 06.04.2020 11:39 |
And if you do literally nothing to confuse them, they will somehow find a completely ingenious way of confusing themselves, all on their own. |
| brENsKi 06.04.2020 11:40 |
brENsK wrote:in fact if you had watched "The Old Grey Whistle Test" back in 2002 they were asking viewers to vote for there favourite concert performance and as i remember Bruce Springsteen Queen Bob Dylan Lynyrd Skynyrd and a few other artists were up for voting by the viewers and the winner by miles was Queen's Christmas Concert from 1975 ! Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury was !you have to turn everything into some form of competition. i would've thought that - even on a very basic level, if members of Queen like an artist, then said artist should merit further discovery. think about it, much of Roger Taylor's writing is influenced by the likes of Dylan and Springsteen. when all is said and done, you made your views on Dylan quite clear: SaddleBrown SaddleBrown SaddleBrownit doesn't matter how many times you make the exact same point (3x so far) - you won't convince others that you are right. this is mainly because your appraisal of everything you ever comment on (including Queen) lacks any kind of depth, knowledge or interpretation. we get that you don't like Dylan, but you can't dismiss his influence on music. even if YOU don't get it - the world of music (including Roger Taylor) certainly do get it. Dylan is the single most covered recording artist ever. Some of your own favoutite artists have covered Dylan - but that's still not enough to prompt you to investigate beyond your blanket statements of "boring" Beatles: Positively 4th Street - Rainy Day Woman#13&35 George Harrison: Abandoned Love - Absolutely Sweet Marie - I Don't Want to Do It - If Not for You - I'd Have You Anytime - Mama, You Been on My Mind |
| Star* 06.04.2020 11:44 |
The Beatles are the most covered artists on the planet not Dylan so go read up on that Mr know it all Brenski. Dylan comes know where near The Beatles for inspiration and popularity, even Queen say The Beatles inspired them. |
| Freddie Jupiter 06.04.2020 11:51 |
Brenski makes the claim that Dylan is the most covered artist on the planet and later accuses Brensk of turning everything into a competition. Pure comedy gold. |
| Star* 06.04.2020 11:55 |
@Freddie Jupiter Yeah Brenski has to have it his way otherwise toys come flying out of the pram! |
| TomP63 06.04.2020 12:31 |
Well Brenski, my sincere compliments that you argue so much and so unnecessarily with Gerry, Vanila, Brensk, funny to see that Vanilla continues to give completely different answers to your valid statements. Really, Brenski, I have had enough after one try. Fortunately, you give up less quickly, again my compliments. Oh learned something about Queen today: Queen is only Mercury that as I may believe Vanila: Dylan never stood a chance were Mercury! Tom |
| Star* 06.04.2020 12:38 |
Freddie was a leading front man and he had to get the audience excited and wanting more quite a valid point. Dylan on the other hand would send me to sleep in 5 minutes he is dreary and boring! |
| brENsKi 06.04.2020 13:04 |
vANllLa wrote:
Gerry, you need to be careful about using mixed case / intercaps in your name...you great "friend" Freddie Jupiter thinks you're an idiot if you do so.
Freddie Jupiter wrote:You should not use capital letters in the middle if words. All those examples are just stupid inventions made by idiots for other idiots. vANllLa wrote:The Beatles are the most covered artists on the planet not Dylan so go read up on that Mr know it all Brenski. Dylan comes know where near The Beatles for inspiration and popularity, even Queen say The Beatles inspired them.i wasn't referring to number of artists to have covered him - that's an impossible thing to measure. when I said : "Dylan is the single most covered recording artist ever" I'm referring to the number of different songs of his that have been recorded by other artists. At present it's listed as 382 different titles recorded by others! sorry, but the Beatles didn't even record 300 songs! - let alone have that many covered. |
| Star* 06.04.2020 13:36 |
The Beatles recorded 213 songs but were over all more popular than Dylan. So you are trying to say that just because artists have recorded more cover versions of Dylan that makes him a better Artist than The Beatles? Popularity is a different thing to how many artists covered Dylan in fact the public have the last say on that one! |
| brENsKi 06.04.2020 13:47 |
vANllLa wrote:The Beatles recorded 213 songs but were over all more popular than Dylan. So you are trying to say that just because artists have recorded more cover versions of Dylan that makes him a better Artist than The Beatles? Popularity is a different thing to how many artists covered Dylan in fact the public have the last say on that one!you've failed to grasp what's been said. i never claimed any such thing. try reading. regardless of what you think i said or what you actually think - the Beatles always will be the greatest band of all time - closely followed by Zeppelin. My own favourite (Queen) will likely always rank somewhere around 3rd - 5th in terms of actual greatness. before you spout on - this isn't about sales. However, Zep and Beatles beat Queen on worldwide sales too. this thread is about Dylan, his lyric writing is infinitely better than Queen - or any other major rock band that i love. the fact that 382 of his songs have been covered- and many of those hundreds of times, shows just want an influence his poetry has. you've deliberately derailed another thread - as is your wont. if you don't have anything to specific say about the song (Murder Most Foul) - or even Dylan referencing Queen in that song, then you're not actually contributing to the discussion. |
| Star* 06.04.2020 14:03 |
Well that is your opinion Brenski so i respect back. I think Bohemian Rhapsody was the greatest song ever written but MY personal opinion and just off the record i have not derailed another thread you done that to many last week if you can remember that far back, good day. |
| people on streets 06.04.2020 19:18 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Totally agree with what Bob said. Not a huge Dylan fan myself either, but Dylan knows how to write a song. That's for sure.brENsK wrote: @brENsKi You are the one asking all the questions so do not blame me for this thread going off track you are the master of derailing threads. Everyone has choices and you should not be critical of peoples choices or slag them off because its not all about you on here.While I am not a big fan of Dylan myself, his importance in music and popular culture since the early 60s simply cannot be overstated. If you don't like him for some reason, that's fine. But anyone over the age of 8 should know that if you don't like something, you can resist that urge to say how much you dislike it in lieu of being respectful of those who have different tastes from you and not rain on their parade. You accuse Brenski of making this about himself. Do you not realize the irony that you are exhibiting the exact behaviour that you are accusing him of? Your entrance to this thread was to slag off Dylan. What were you hoping to add to the discussion by (erroneously) declaring Dylan to be "over hyped" in a way only a true philistine could ? |
| The Real Wizard 07.04.2020 00:35 |
vANllLa wrote: I am not hijacking anything i am merely giving my opinion. You guys get so narky if no one agrees with you.No, people are fed up with you because you repeatedly express yourself aggressively like a child when basic human decency and restraint would do. But such a concept that would demonstrate rudimentary socialization eludes you, and will continue to. Airing negative opinions ad nausea combined with showing zero penchant for humility nor learning is what makes you the unlikable character you are. Your parents should be proud of such well-adjusted crotch fruit they produced. |
| The Real Wizard 07.04.2020 00:39 |
vANllLa wrote: The Beatles recorded 213 songs but were over all more popular than Dylan. So you are trying to say that just because artists have recorded more cover versions of Dylan that makes him a better Artist than The Beatles? Popularity is a different thing to how many artists covered Dylan in fact the public have the last say on that one!He wasn't stating it as a matter of competition - he was stating it as a matter of indisputable fact. But this thread has been enlightening, as it has highlighted that you justify your enjoyment of music purely on a comparative basis, which is obviously juvenile and unnecessary. Cherry picking numbers that favour the artists you like (and rejecting the numbers that don't) is classic confirmation bias. You can simply like something for its own sake. Most people learn this by the time they're a teenager, but it is abundantly clear that you have not done so. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 07.04.2020 01:38 |
Brenski, Real Wizard et al, leave the trolls alone. I went to the last 4 pages of the Live Aid multitrack and it was two people arguing. The internet for most of us is around 25 years old. People like the ones who post the same shit day after day after after day need responses like oxygen. Stop giving it to them. Sermonizing to fools will not change a thing. Leave them alone, and someone should post a topic called Ignore these people and none their names. This place is a joke, don't encourage this shit. |
| Freddie Jupiter 07.04.2020 03:37 |
What you have witnessed there is people like Brenski, The Real Idiot, Thimas Quinn, and a few others, fighting for what they perceive to be their right to win every argument they want, no matter how intellectually dishonest, by employing ad hominem attacks, strawmaning, obfuscation, confusion, appeals to authority and populace, pointing out spelling mistakes to create perception of superiority, and many other filthy tactics. I have come along and called them out on it, which is why they hate me with so much intensity that some have even gone as far as to wish death upon me. |
| The Real Wizard 07.04.2020 06:13 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Brenski, Real Wizard et al, leave the trolls alone. I went to the last 4 pages of the Live Aid multitrack and it was two people arguing. The internet for most of us is around 25 years old. People like the ones who post the same shit day after day after after day need responses like oxygen. Stop giving it to them. Sermonizing to fools will not change a thing. Leave them alone, and someone should post a topic called Ignore these people and none their names. This place is a joke, don't encourage this shit.Yeah, this place needed to die a decade ago. You're welcome to start such a thread, but of course the problem is these trolls keep changing their names. They occasionally get banned, but then they can just start up a new account because this homemade forum engine (circa 2001) cannot ban IP addresses. As stated numerous times before, someone needs to create another Queen forum catered for the 2020 realities of the internet, with any number of existing engines with those protections built in. This place has its occasional good moments, but it's about 90% trailer park trash now. But it sure is an education in what the world can look like without regulating forces. Two or three people can ruin something thousands used to enjoy. Wake me up when someone does that. I'm out. |
| Star* 07.04.2020 08:58 |
I agree with Freddie Jupiter in that Brenski Real Wizard Thomas quinn all are bullies if you do not agree with there side of the story, god forbid if you say something negative they all club together like worker ants and sting the hell out of you. Just be fair because there is two sides to a coin in case you had forgotten and your views do not over rule any one else's views. I was not wanting to dominate the thread but Brenski assumes i did because yet again he is overly opinionated.. My views should not get trashed just to make there views look superior. I have as much right to express what i want to. |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 10:30 |
vANllLa wrote: I agree with Freddie Jupiter in that Brenski Real Wizard Thomas quinn all are bullies if you do not agree with there side of the story, god forbid if you say something negative they all club together like worker ants and sting the hell out of you. Just be fair because there is two sides to a coin in case you had forgotten and your views do not over rule any one else's views. I was not wanting to dominate the thread but Brenski assumes i did because yet again he is overly opinionated.. My views should not get trashed just to make there views look superior. I have as much right to express what i want to.you have no idea what you and your ilk are doing, you think that by continuing in this way you'll achieve something? you will. everyone who has any actual knowledge/stuff to share will go. you accuse me of causing trouble - but in the three years i was away - and you were here - hundreds left here for good. that's down to you Gerry - you and your like.. the only thing you'll achieve will be a ghost forum where only you, FJupiter and the other trolls remain. it'll end up a battle between you and your trollmates - between the Freddie stepfords and the Lambert fans. the winners (both of them) will get the spoils...talking to themselves in a husk of a forum - and you'll be welcome to it . you can't see it - but the day is coming. enjoy your victory. Hail King Gerry: Proclaimer of the Irrelevant- Lord of the Queenzone Tumbleweed, Emperor of the Dust |
| The Circle of Eidolon 07.04.2020 10:31 |
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| Freddie Jupiter 07.04.2020 11:04 |
@The Circle of Eonion, this is by far the most sense you've made in a long time. |
| Star* 07.04.2020 11:22 |
Oh my god Brenski that is all you do shift the blame on to other people. Lets get something straight here, if you kept your fat mouth closed then less rows would happen on here. You have spoilt many a thread with your over blown opinions and bullying so do not play the victim card here sunshine. You dig and dig and get people like me so annoyed that yes i get aggressive because i am not putting up with someone like you on here telling me what i can and cannot do. Simple solution is for you to stop commenting on my replies that way were all happy! Tell your gobby mates Thomasquinn Real Wizard to do the same and stay away from me because commenting only starts friction which you only too well know about. |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 12:00 |
vANllLa wrote: Oh my god Brenski that is all you do shift the blame on to other people. Lets get something straight here, if you kept your fat mouth closed then less rows would happen on here. You have spoilt many a thread with your over blown opinions and bullying so do not play the victim card here sunshine. You dig and dig and get people like me so annoyed that yes i get aggressive because i am not putting up with someone like you on here telling me what i can and cannot do. Simple solution is for you to stop commenting on my replies that way were all happy! Tell your gobby mates Thomasquinn Real Wizard to do the same and stay away from me because commenting only starts friction which you only too well know about.so NONE of this is to do with you? ridiculous claim. who was to blame when i wasn't here for three years - and you were falling out with everyone? you deliberately joined this thread - one you have no interest in at all - just to make disparaging comments. YOU are the thread de-railer. stfu |
| Star* 07.04.2020 12:33 |
You have a bad memory Brenski because last week you ran riot through every conceivable thread on Queenzone to attack me. If you had not commented on this thread towards me then we would not be in the rut we are in now Method in madness don't you think? If you want to play nice don't reply at all. |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 12:38 |
vANllLa wrote: You have a bad memory Brenski because last week you ran riot through every conceivable thread on Queenzone to attack me. If you had not commented on this thread towards me then we would not be in the rut we are in now Method in madness don't you think? If you want to play nice don't reply at all.you've turned this place into a turdhole. well done |
| Star* 07.04.2020 13:09 |
You are in denial old pal. lol Turdhole = Brenski |
| The Circle of Eidolon 07.04.2020 13:11 |
Freddie Jupiter wrote: @The Circle of Eonion, this is by far the most sense you've made in a long time.We The Circle of Eidolon were aware that an empty space would serve as an opportunity for you Freddie Jupiter to post something negative. We The Circle of Eidolon are pleased you took up the invitation so quickly, an invitation you were not aware you were answering, an invitation that was designed to show you as the person you are. Your actions are beyond that which you can learn from. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken, we have answered your childish post |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 13:19 |
vANllLa wrote: You are in denial old pal. lol Turdhole = Brenskii'm not in denial. i'm also refusing to accept your shit. the forum owner no longer cares and is completely complicit by virtue of allowing your garbage to go unchecked, the moderation is non-existent. time to replace inaction and do something about it. this is a Bob Dylan thread, so i'll leave you with a some posts that will fly way over your head Gerry: [color= purple]The sky, too, is folding under you And it's all over now, Gerry blue [/color] |
| Vocal harmony 07.04.2020 13:20 |
vANllLa wrote:[/ Oh my god Brenski that is all you do shift the blame. . . . . Simple solution is for you to stop commenting on my replies that way were all happy! Tell your gobby mates Thomasquinn Real Wizard to do the same and stay away from me because commenting only starts friction which you only too well know about.As you are well aware this is a public forum, anyone can comment on anything. Why don't you stop posting, since you're the one complaining, if you didn't post no one could post in reply. |
| Star* 07.04.2020 13:22 |
Very poet Mr Brenski now here is some better lyrics : Carry on carry on as if nothing really matters ........... |
| GoodTimesAreNow 07.04.2020 14:08 |
I’m no Dylan fan, don’t have any of his records... Do you think he deserved the Nobel prize for literature? |
| GoodTimesAreNow 07.04.2020 14:08 |
I’m no Dylan fan, don’t have any of his records... Do you think he deserved the Nobel prize for literature? |
| Star* 07.04.2020 15:40 |
I think Dylan should just stick to the music if he is so great and as for the Nobel Prize for literature forget it you just dont confuse music with anything else cos its like saying Bono from U2 is a rock star but puts political messages in his music which just sucks ! |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 16:02 |
vANllLa wrote:you just dont confuse music with anything else cos its like saying Bono from U2 is a rock star but puts political messages in his music which just sucks !Beatles - Blackbird Beatles - Revolution Beatles - Taxman Beatles - Piggies Queen - Put Out The Fire (gun control) Queen - One vision (originally: Martin Luther King Jr) Queen - Is This The World We Created? Queen - White Man (oppression) there are more - especially in their solo recordings - Gerry you have just proven you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about "your band" [sic]. all you ever do is spout random nonsense from the Gospel According To St Buffoon The Ignorant so basically: Gerry has spokenthe two band she loves : Queen and the Beatles "just suck" because they "put political messages in music" thanks. idiot |
| Star* 07.04.2020 16:16 |
Freddie said he hates the fact that bands put secret messages or political crap in there songs and Queen have stated many times they are NOT a political band so your post is yet again dismissed smart arse. |
| GoodTimesAreNow 07.04.2020 16:19 |
Well, he (Bob) didn’t ask for it, did he? He did stick to his music. About Bono, there’s nothing wrong with putting political messages in songs. Some artists became politicians (Sonny Bono, that guy from Beds are burning, can’t recall any more at the moment). Barry White sung many songs about (making) love...so did Paul McCartney. I love his music, but can’t say his lyrics are extremely good My question is: should a songwriter be rewarded on such a high level for his lyrics? |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 16:20 |
vANllLa wrote: Freddie said he hates the fact that bands put secret messages or political crap in there songs and Queen have stated many times they are NOT a political band so your post is yet again dismissed smart arse.oh and - get your fucking tense correct: "Freddie hated" (past tense) he is no more, and hasn't been so for almost 3 decades - therefore it's impossible for him to "hate" anything. all of the songs i've quoted have political messages - regardless of what your God told you. you sir, are the most clueless fucking dolt that sperm ever fashioned into skin and pulse. |
| GoodTimesAreNow 07.04.2020 16:22 |
I’m not interested in Freddie’s 35 year old personal opinion, of a man who sadly died 30 years ago... |
| GoodTimesAreNow 07.04.2020 16:53 |
I mean, Freddie’s personal opinion about _anything_ matters anymore, does it? Unless he has an opinion about Dylan and unless he’s able to make a reply in this thread. @VanillaIce: you are not his voice are you? |
| Star* 07.04.2020 18:29 |
Brenski You are such an evil bitter man and you may not like what i have to say but i am going to ram it down your fucking throat you ignorant twat, Freddie will always mean so much to the world regardless of how long he has passed away and unlike you who he was an extremely talented and generous human being, Yes more talented than your drab Dylan, but i expect you to like shit because that says everything about the person you are. Fact Queen are bigger and more talented than Zeppelin and the world agrees so bluff your way out of that one.? You are the most clueless small minded piece of filth i have ever communicated with on Queenzone and to be honest i expect nothing less from your breed. |
| Star* 07.04.2020 18:39 |
See ya wouldnt wanna be ya Brenskiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii xxxxxx |
| Holly2003 07.04.2020 19:10 |
vANllLa wrote: Brenski You are such an evil bitter man and you may not like what i have to say but i am going to ram it down your fucking throat you ignorant twat, Freddie will always mean so much to the world regardless of how long he has passed away and unlike you who he was an extremely talented and generous human being, Yes more talented than your drab Dylan, but i expect you to like shit because that says everything about the person you are. Fact Queen are bigger and more talented than Zeppelin and the world agrees so bluff your way out of that one.? You are the most clueless small minded piece of filth i have ever communicated with on Queenzone and to be honest i expect nothing less from your breed.You don't half get your girly knickers in a twist. |
| Star* 07.04.2020 19:47 |
@Holly2003 I dont wear knickers i leave that to Adam Lambert ! |
| brENsKi 07.04.2020 21:59 |
vANllLa wrote:Brenski You are such an evil bitter man and you may not like what i have to say but i am going to ram it down your fucking throat you ignorant twat,more threats of violence. you really are living, breathing excrement. |
| Star* 08.04.2020 07:05 |
Brenski No threats of violence but plenty bullying from you again. Go look in the mirror and blame yourself for the horror that belies there! You do plenty of name calling when the problem is you! |
| Star* 08.04.2020 07:07 |
You have no taste in music and you are no Queen fan plus i am certain you only come on here to ruffle feathers. If Zeppelin is your favourite band then fuck off to there web site and leave us real Queen fans alone on here, |
| brENsKi 08.04.2020 08:25 |
vANllLa wrote: You have no taste in music and you are no Queen fan plus i am certain you only come on here to ruffle feathers. If Zeppelin is your favourite band then fuck off to there web site and leave us real Queen fans alone on here,not taken your meds for a few days, have you? |
| Star* 08.04.2020 13:26 |
You actually turn people insane |
| brENsKi 08.04.2020 14:12 |
vANllLa wrote:Brenski Go look in the mirror and blame yourself for the horror that belies there!astounding, that with all of the online dictionaries at your disposal, that when you do try to be clever - using a word like "belie" - you use it incorrectly. the one thing you definitely could not see in a mirror is anything at all that "belies". |
| Star* 08.04.2020 14:38 |
Seriously Brenski you need to get a grip because your obsession with me is getting scary now! Are you secretly a closet gay? lol |
| brENsKi 08.04.2020 14:46 |
vANllLa wrote: Seriously Brenski you need to get a grip because your obsession with me is getting scary now! Are you secretly a closet gay? lolidiot. you replied to me TWICE before i responded you, you fool. anyhow, don't use clever words, when you have no idea what they mean. ...and i don't just mean "belie", either. you should steer clear of almost all of the 170,000+ entries contained within the Oxford Dictionary. Quite frankly - each and every one of those words has conspired to trip you up every time that you post. |
| Star* 08.04.2020 16:44 |
Brenski i sometimes wonder who pulled you out when you were born because you would not have the sense to push! Now educate yourself and wake up from your Dylan coma and see a real rock n roll band that can really play. (See Below) This band were actually influenced by Queen's second album Queen2. |
| brENsKi 08.04.2020 18:24 |
Mercury. wrote:Brenski i sometimes wonder who pulled you out when you were born because you would not have the sense to push!Queen2.everything new comment you make is more banal than the last. the mother does the pushing during childbirth. |
| Holly2003 08.04.2020 18:33 |
Mercury. wrote: Brenski i sometimes wonder who pulled you out when you were born because you would not have the sense to push!There isn't a day that goes by without you making a complete fool of yourself, but this is one to mark in the calendar. |
| Star* 08.04.2020 20:03 |
That is your opinion Holly2003 and there isn't a day goes by without you posting damp useless comments either. |
| Star* 08.04.2020 20:05 |
Brenski Some babies come by themselves unlike you that came out of a test tube! |
| brENsKi 10.04.2020 15:22 |
Mercury. wrote: Brenski Some babies come by themselves unlike you that came out of a test tube!no. they don't contractions push the baby's head down, slowly thinning and opening the cervix (effacement/dilation) obviously your birth was different to the rest of humanity...but then it would be, wouldn't it |
| mooghead 10.04.2020 15:46 |
Why are you still here indulging the trolls? |
| brENsKi 10.04.2020 15:53 |
was looking for an old post of mine for the new forum. saw this one and couldn't resist a parting shot. |
| mooghead 10.04.2020 17:27 |
;-) |
| Vocal harmony 10.04.2020 17:56 |
brENsKi wrote:Being as the idiot currently calling himself Mercury is actually a single cell smear he won't understand what you're talking about.Mercury. wrote: Brenski Some babies come by themselves unlike you that came out of a test tube!no. they don't contractions push the baby's head down, slowly thinning and opening the cervix (effacement/dilation) obviously your birth was different to the rest of humanity...but then it would be, wouldn't it |
| brENsKi 10.04.2020 18:00 |
102 members in less than 48 hours - it's a very good start |
| Star* 10.04.2020 19:57 |
Brenski You are doing a fine job clearing Queenzone , now i will stay away from you well 6ft should do ! |
| brENsKi 10.04.2020 22:05 |
Mercury. wrote: Brenski You are doing a fine job clearing Queenzone , now i will stay away from you well 6ft should do !so why did you join us then? you lying hypocritical troll? anyhow, silvermoon - you're banned, you IP addr is banned and it's goodnight from him. |