QueenZone discussion #1587869

Young Music Fan wrote: Here is a download link for the concert I have found from Ryan Newton's YouTube page: https://mega.nz/#!xCxi3QLZ!B9bCRRvJeLjlz1Rt-ZHcCjnu1zT5afwvguY3vqZtRgM

Saint Jiub wrote: Apparently there is no March 2nd show, only the March 3rd show.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Apparently there is no March 2nd show, only the March 3rd show.

Nope, there is - the one hour recording that has circulated for decades is from March 2.

Saint Jiub wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Apparently there is no March 2nd show, only the March 3rd show.

Nope, there is - the one hour recording that has circulated for decades is from March 2.

Oops thanks for the correction. I assume the March 2nd show is only for "bootleg" ears?

dysan wrote: This is so good. It is the first time I've been eager to listen to Millionaire Waltz on repeat for about 30 years. The audience make it. Same with The Prophet Song mucking around. You're right in the middle cheering along. Fantastic stuff. Do keep an ear out if any Bowie Millards come along. I have one, but it's a few generations from the master.

Sam99 wrote: I have now had a chance to listen to several of he songs here, I must say I'm surprised by the sheer lack of comment. I'm very grateful for this recording being shared here, as a long time Queen fan I'm surprised people are not enthusing about this, is this possibly one of the best recordings of Queen live in the 70's? Hate to moan but I thought more people would have something to say, I'm just grateful to have an opportunity to listen to this.

The Real Wizard wrote: The film doesn't match the audio that we now know is March 2 (the last "battle" of Ogre Battle was always the giveaway), so it must be the 3rd.

The Real Wizard wrote: link First gen copy of LA 4-4-78, on the Heroes tour. It is just as spectacular as the Queen tape.

The Real Wizard wrote: It sounds like he's pulled the mic away from his mouth, as he's much more faint. Mercury's banter at 3:30 matches the audio perfectly. Without a doubt the film is from 3-3-77. Great job with the sync, Chin ! I started this one nearly 20 years ago with the wrong shows, so it's nice to see it put together properly for the first time.

Chinwonder2 wrote: Here's an updated version: link -Chin

jakelic wrote: I wouldn't say without a doubt.

The Kurgan wrote: It's also a reasonable possibility you are now with doubt.

The Real Wizard wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: It's also a reasonable possibility you are now with doubt.

But it seems it's not a reasonable possibility that you won't stop be a raging asshole instead of being civil while we discuss something we both enjoy I'm happy to admit I'm learning here and that evidence can change my mind. Leave the personal vendetta at the door - nobody wants to hear about it.

Chinwonder2 wrote: Here's JUST the low gen footage: link -Chin

Chinwonder2 wrote: Here is the best source merge: link

The Kurgan wrote: No worries, I can assure you my "asshole" is in a non raging state.

Chinwonder2 wrote: Here is the best source merge:

jakelic wrote: I hope we can do some detective work without private disputes.

jakelic wrote: Following all the hype with the amazing Millard tape, the 8mm sync just doesn’t look right to me. of course I can point out all the details that convinced me it is not the 3rd (like the tambourine bit or a few times Freddie sings off mic, while other times he holds the mic to his mouth but no singing is heard). But it is when trying to sync the 2nd that you will see every move, every lipsync, every drum and cymbal kick just starts to fall in place. With all the accuracy this community keeps to be true to Freddie’s legacy and be real Queen archivists, it has to be sure which date to use for this 8mm. If I am wrong about the date, please point out the problems in my edit and we can talk them out. But keep in mind the audio recording has some major speed problems that gave me a headache while syncing.

aristide1 wrote:

jakelic wrote: I hope we can do some detective work without private disputes.

Wow, you already have moral disappointments and demands related to queenzone. It's a little bit early, don't you think? Without private disputes this place will disappear in thin air, and a collection of boring to death "watch my ass passing by" comments like yours is not the substitute for genuine Queen love, who ultimately keeps this community alive. The insignificant fact that you've noticed some insignificant things about insignificant subjects does not offer you the right to question the forum content from a superior viewpoint.

jakelic wrote: With respect, I can assure you my love for Queen is genuine and goes on for many years. For the gentlemen and ladies of this community and their work I have huge respect and am very glad and grateful it exists. I have no wish to impose any superior wiewpoint. But this is the Millard tape topic, spamming is unnecessary. I think I have provided a good basis for a discussion and doubt about the 8mm dating.

pittrek wrote: link - in the footage when Freddie has this outfit on, (Now I'm Here), Roger has something "black" on him, in the photo he is naked. So either Roger got warm and was "topless" during the rocknroll medley (assuming Freddie didn't change his outfit again), or the photo(s) and the footage come from different nights.

The Real Wizard wrote: Ignore aristide1. He is one of a half dozen or so trolls on this forum whom the world has wronged, and lashes out at pretty much anyone who isn't a troll. Don't explain yourself to him, as you owe him nothing. Your time is far too valuable. Queenzone is pretty well an unmoderated forum, and thus the trolls pretty well rule this place. It only takes a few.

jakelic wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: Ignore aristide1. He is one of a half dozen or so trolls on this forum whom the world has wronged, and lashes out at pretty much anyone who isn't a troll. Don't explain yourself to him, as you owe him nothing. Your time is far too valuable. Queenzone is pretty well an unmoderated forum, and thus the trolls pretty well rule this place. It only takes a few.

That may be, but I stand behind all I wrote in the reply :)

The Real Wizard wrote:

pittrek wrote: link - in the footage when Freddie has this outfit on, (Now I'm Here), Roger has something "black" on him, in the photo he is naked. So either Roger got warm and was "topless" during the rocknroll medley (assuming Freddie didn't change his outfit again), or the photo(s) and the footage come from different nights.

That photo is from the end of Liar. Watch the Uniondale video to see which part I mean.

jakelic wrote: With respect, I can assure you my love for Queen is genuine and goes on for many years. For the gentlemen and ladies of this community and their work I have huge respect and am very glad and grateful it exists. I have no wish to impose any superior wiewpoint. But this is the Millard tape topic, spamming is unnecessary. I think I have provided a good basis for a discussion and doubt about the 8mm dating. The tapes don’t lie. We just have to see which one fits better. I mean no offense to anyone.

aristide1 wrote: That makes the whole Millard event and the associated fireworks to have little meaning for me whatsoever.

aristide1 wrote: Don't try to look so falsely humble jakelik, it's not necessary and even less credible. I hope you are aware that while you are searching with over-enthusiastic self-importance through "the tapes that don't lie to see which one fits better", there is a guy who has 500 soundboard tapes and 50 multitrack tapes in his closet (at least). Of his own, which he owns, because they are his own tapes. Have I mentioned that he owns them? That makes the whole Millard event and the associated fireworks to have little meaning for me whatsoever. Maybe you will find something edible in the garbage bin, but certainly a half eaten turnip is not the discovery of the century.

jakelic wrote: Well, anyway, I've created a small comparison video. If the singing issues are not enough, I think the drumming issues (number 8.) take the cake. It's about 6 minutes long, feel free to watch and make your own judgement. For sure I mean no offence to anyone, and would really like to hear your opinions. youtube unlisted: link mega: link

The Real Wizard wrote: You should never have to prelude anything you post with this.

The Real Wizard wrote: At :47 you're right - Brian bends the G string on March 3, but not on the video. The video is March 2.

The Real Wizard wrote: Brilliant job. You are quickly becoming an immensely valuable contributor to this place. Now if only someone would create a forum where we could have these discussions without the trolls infecting them every few hours, then we'd be getting somewhere.