QueenZone discussion #1587860

runner_70 wrote: link If you listen to this and still think Lamebird is s good singer make an appointment with the doc and check your hearing. You can clearly hear that Lamebutt has a paperthin voice who has no power on the rock songs. His vibrato is just annoying. Yes he is hitting high notes but thats it. Martel has way more power in his delivery. And Freddie just kills both of them. Also check the comments. Obviously about 90% of those folks have ears.....

scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato. listen to those performances and tell me he was better than Lambert on those nights. On his good nights however he was unbeatable.

scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato.

A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..

runner_70 wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..

The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker

A Word In Your Ear wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..

The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker

serves me right for not reading everything.. lol!!

Saint Jiub wrote: Adam's vocal gymnastics are overwrought. Freddie's performances are warm and appropriately emotionally delivered. There are plenty of excellent live performances by Freddie that the occasional less than perfect performance is unimportant. I would take a substandard performance of Freddie over Adam anytime. Heck, even Seal's emotional tribute performance of Who Wants to Live Forever is better than Adam's performance of this song.

runner_70 wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..

The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker

The Circle of Eidolon wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..

The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker

The Circle of Eidolon reads and learns. We have read this thread. runner_70 you have called two forum members idiots for having an opinion on the subject of this thread. You seem to have forgotten that this is a forum where discussion takes place. This discussion is one which you started. If you don't like having no control of the outcome maybe some thought before opening a thread could go a long way. We The Circle of Eidolon have spoken but yet again as history shows you've learnt nothing.

Saint Jiub wrote: Adam's vocal gymnastics are overwrought. Freddie's performances are warm and appropriately emotionally delivered. There are plenty of excellent live performances by Freddie that the occasional less than perfect performance is unimportant. I would take a substandard performance of Freddie over Adam anytime. Heck, even Seal's emotional tribute performance of Who Wants to Live Forever is better than Adam's performance of this song.

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

AngelR wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

Paul Rodger's range is hardly limited, it's over 3 octaves. He's the grear singer. As you said above, vocalist can't be defined by his range only. "Rangeless" Adele is a good example! Apologies to Paul's fans but I find his singing style boring. Don't think I could've stomached a 2,5 hours show with him reading lyrics he wouldn't have bothered to learn (talking about his showmanship). Would be really nice if he appeared as a guest at one of the Queen + AL shows though. Maybe he could sing his own song and one Queen song with Adam. Adam is incredible vocalist live, not sure why there's so much snobbery towards him. Would've been so much worse if he acted as a rocker and not himself.

AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)

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scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato. listen to those performances and tell me he was better than Lambert on those nights. On his good nights however he was unbeatable.

Agreed, I've been saying this for a number of years only to be shot down by the same two or three people. Freddie was amazing as a vocalist, song writer and musician. His weakness was that he couldn't deliver that amazing voice live on a consistent basis, Lambert can use the full range of his voice as he chooses, he can also perform the songs in the key they were recorded in, another thing Freddie couldn't always do. Martel is a vocal impersonator, he appears to be, largely, a one trick pony. In technique and vocal sound Freddie and Lambert are originals Marc Martel isn't.

SweetCaroline wrote: As Freddie would say, icy, fuck you!!!!!

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Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

Young Music Fan wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! link

It was Freddie. It will always be Freddie who is the legendary performer, writer, groundbreaker no matter how much you want and need everything to be AL's time to shine. Poor, sad you, who will never realise how great Freddie was. You are too busy bigging AL up on Queen boards even to to notice or care about anything else, not even the music who has put him where AL is now. You pretty much showed what you thought when you said it was Live Aid 2.0...when it's nowhere near to what Freddie, Brian Roger and John and all those other artists and fans did in 85. You don't even realise that.

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MisterCosmicc wrote:

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Where’s the comparisons? Irrelevant to this thread. In fact, as Icy said, you didn’t contribute anything to this thread except spam. You made no comment on the comparisons or anything. It’s truly disgusting how you act about Adam. How you are about Adam is no different than how one of those stupid, blind Trump worshippers act about Trump.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.

All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it.

Young Music Fan wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.

Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics.

I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.

All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it.

I was seven when I got into Queen, so blues wasn't my thing back then and still isn't now. (I really like All Right Now and Can't Get Enough but to me that isn't blues but rock.) When you're a child you want to be entertained visually not just audibly so AL definitely does that. Adam can sing in the original key which Freddie couldn't with every song he sang live. But I don't want that to be taken away from him because Freddie is the greatest. I want to see Brian and Roger live so Q+AL is the way I can achieve this. Adam is one of the best people who could perform with Queen now. What do you expect from him? He's singing Queen songs with Queen and you're expecting him not to sing like Queen did?

SweetCaroline wrote: I wasn’t spamming last night — I was having fun. I started out watching the Sydney Fire Fight Show and then picked up a video from the same page with that video which was I Want To Break Free and then another video from that page which was Bicycle Race and then the video CLTCL in the downpour and back to the Sydney Show and then finally the GMA Show with Queen songs and songs from the Velvet album. I was comparing Adam to the others by spontaneously posting his wide range of performance. But you didn’t get it. As usual icy thinks I was bigging him up. I think it is too early to know if and for what exactly Adam will be noted or remembered. Hopefully, he will be around for awhile and still making his mark. For now it won’t be just about his time on Idol although he definitely left his impression there, He could be remembered as the kid who was soooo good that he was able to tour around the world 3 going on 4 times with two legendary musicians performing their iconic music before thousands of happy fans. Mention his name on YouTube and there is an abundance of videos to choose from before and during Idol, before and during QAL, and whatever will be coming next.

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snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~

SweetCaroline wrote: Let’s see, over 200 shows with an average of 20,000 people at every show. That would be at least 4,000,000 fans who might remember the fabulous vocalist/entertainer they were mesmerized by in the past 8 years!

SweetCaroline wrote: Let’s see, over 200 shows with an average of 20,000 people at every show. That would be at least 4,000,000 fans who might remember the fabulous vocalist/entertainer they were mesmerized by in the past 8 years!

SweetCaroline wrote: I wasn’t spamming last night — I was having fun. I started out watching the Sydney Fire Fight Show and then picked up a video from the same page with that video which was I Want To Break Free and then another video from that page which was Bicycle Race and then the video CLTCL in the downpour and back to the Sydney Show and then finally the GMA Show with Queen songs and songs from the Velvet album. I was comparing Adam to the others by spontaneously posting his wide range of performance. But you didn’t get it. As usual icy thinks I was bigging him up. I think it is too early to know if and for what exactly Adam will be noted or remembered. Hopefully, he will be around for awhile and still making his mark. For now it won’t be just about his time on Idol although he definitely left his impression there, He could be remembered as the kid who was soooo good that he was able to tour around the world 3 going on 4 times with two legendary musicians performing their iconic music before thousands of happy fans. Mention his name on YouTube and there is an abundance of videos to choose from before and during Idol, before and during QAL, and whatever will be coming next.

snifflese wrote: Personally, St Jiub, I would prefer Span to your nasty crap. I didn't say a negative thing about Icy, I just referenced her fav word, which is bandied about a lot around here and thought you might better understand that one. You can dislike all you want, but repeating it day after day after day is kind of a waste of your time and mine.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yep, two Queen fans posted very positive reviews on the QOL forum of their respective Brisbane and Sydney concerts this past week both of them saying that the current QAL show is the best live show out there!

snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~

snifflese wrote: The number is way bigger than that. There were 450,000 at the first Kiev show. The show the another night was 40,000 and the Fire Benefit was 70,000. There were lots of shows with way over 20,000 and not many under. But really so what? The people who were there, whatever the number, will remember the great night that they experienced. That is the important part. If you don't like it, you don't have to go, but those that attend seem to really, really enjoy it based on all the social media I have seen. Just because you here on QZ don't appreciate it, you people are not really part of the mix. The detractors who absolutely hate it are dwindling every concert, every year. Those folks have their old CD's and maybe records and old videos. They also have something they can enjoy. It is all good!!

snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~

Sorry, but anything Roger and Brian do touring wise can’t compete with the legacy created while Freddie was alive. It’s a fact. And Adam’s a prop, he really is. He’s giving Brian and Roger something to do, and he knows it’s the most important thing he does. But touring and playing old songs as a replacement singer isn’t legendary, no matter how long they do it. Freddie’s popularity is so huge, that Adam’s touring is dwarfed. Most adults could care less about Adam, but they know and listen to Freddie. Most of those going to QAL concerts aren’t even hardcore Queen fans, they are people who want to go to a concert. Many are hardcore Queen fans who want to see Brian and Roger (and multiple fans who go to the concerts have said so over the past few weeks). And then there’s a crowd of Adam Worshippers, but it’s not a huge crowd. Adam isn’t even known much for his solo music, he’s more known for Queen and American Idol. The only time he’s mentioned on the radio is about a QAL concert coming up. My local radio station loves discussing Freddie, but not once have they decided to talk about Adam and his concerts with Queen, they only mention an upcoming concert. It’s nothing special compared to it Quern with Freddie performing. I know a lot of Queen fans in person, Adam isn’t discussed, because he’s just not part of what Queen’s famous for, and even Adam knows that. Adam knows perfectly well that the years Freddie was with the band was the most important. Yes, overtime, Adam won’t be talked about much more. Queen created. QAL re-creates. There’s a difference, and two hundred years from now, no music teacher will be pulling out a film to educate teenagers on the importance of QAL.

runner_70 wrote:

scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato.

Can you please giv me an example of one of his shit performances and his loss of words? Thanx in advance you prick

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)

Oh sorry, I didn't know I had to ask your permission to reply to you here. You should put a disclaimer on your posts that only certain people can reply to you, and that's what you want and need. It's funny how many Glamberts say Paul was boring, then turn around to big up Lambert. Funny thing that I notired through the years. My obsession you say, sorry, not sorry I'm not obsessed with Lambert at all. I wouldn't want to be with him, or anyone.

runner_70 wrote: It is not about hitting the highest notes possible it is about delivering warmth and feeling

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

AngelR wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)

Oh sorry, I didn't know I had to ask your permission to reply to you here. You should put a disclaimer on your posts that only certain people can reply to you, and that's what you want and need. It's funny how many Glamberts say Paul was boring, then turn around to big up Lambert. Funny thing that I notired through the years. My obsession you say, sorry, not sorry I'm not obsessed with Lambert at all. I wouldn't want to be with him, or anyone.

The only "funny thing" that I noticed through the years is your obsession with Adam Lambert, Icy. I don't need your opinion about my opinion about Paul Rodgers - it's bizarre. I'd love to see Paul one day as the guest at the Queen + AL show. Maybe a special appearance at the Wembley Stadium next year? Would've been great fun for all fans. Well...apart from some wierdos on Queenzone. :-)

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily.

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily.

Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.

I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitime of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily.

Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!

Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.

I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

Or maybe his comment about being a grown up extends to allowing SC to worship Adam if that's what she wants, how is her worshipping Adam harming anyone else? The only reason it's a problem is the few who chase her constantly from thread to thread to bitch about every little thing she posts while the Grown Ups just scroll past stuff they aren't interested in including the links she posts - what a concept eh.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.

Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates.

Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.

I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

Or maybe his comment about being a grown up extends to allowing SC to worship Adam if that's what she wants, how is her worshipping Adam harming anyone else? The only reason it's a problem is the few who chase her constantly from thread to thread to bitch about every little thing she posts while the Grown Ups just scroll past stuff they aren't interested in including the links she posts - what a concept eh.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily.

Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!

Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!

You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.

The Real Wizard wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

Why does this matter so much to you? I ignore her posts, but I don't see her slandering anyone to justify what she personally enjoys.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.

The Real Wizard wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.

Why does this matter so much to you? I ignore her posts, but I don't see her slandering anyone to justify what she personally enjoys.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.

And to quote TRW why does it matter? What real difference does it make if she posts links and tweets or whatever, I don't click on the majority I just scroll past, it's far easier to scroll past the links than the huge posts of personal arguments reiterating the same rubbish over and over page after page.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.

And to quote TRW why does it matter? What real difference does it make if she posts links and tweets or whatever, I don't click on the majority I just scroll past, it's far easier to scroll past the links than the huge posts of personal arguments reiterating the same rubbish over and over page after page.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily.

Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!

Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!

You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.

I know... whenever someone other than you criticizes them, they reply but usually create a paragraph or two directed at you.

MisterCosmicc wrote: It’s annoying, and hard to ignore.

I love your website, by the way. I’m on it all the time, I just never got to let you know.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at my reply to The Real Wizard before your reply to me. I’m not going to repeat myself until I want to.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at my reply to The Real Wizard before your reply to me. I’m not going to repeat myself until I want to.

I already had, still don't see the problem.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitome of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.

Why are offended by SC but not by the constant torrent of hate and slander from runner_70 ?

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.

I know... whenever someone other than you criticizes them, they reply but usually create a paragraph or two directed at you.

Saint Jiub wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitome of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.

Why are offended by SC but not by the constant torrent of hate and slander from runner_70 ?

I have posted multiple times against Gerry and runner. However no one takes runner or Gerry seriously, as are just total buffoons that have become ridiculous comic caricatures of themselves. SC is a two faced glambert wacko that cannot express or discuss a rational thought of her own, but can only post empty tweets and empty links. She is basically an Adam stepford who believes everything Adam does is wonderful and stupendously perfect. Also, SC has issued plenty of slander toward Icy.

SweetCaroline wrote: My “slander” to icy is in RESPONSE to HER crap! Don’t be fooled by her whining about being a victim! She has always been nasty and negative but won’t admit it. And before she or anyone else adds another 6 pages here, I don’t give “TWO FUX” !!!!!

Saint Jiub wrote: So the singer lost to the entertainer ... LOL How Adam Lambert Lost American Idol For Himself link But bolstered by Kris Allen’s rise to the forefront of the season by simply performing good songs well just a little better than he had before, the finale for Idol turned out about as perfect as we could hope. The truth is that while good, Adam Lambert never got any better. He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example). The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week. As the final weeks rolled along it was Kris Allen who grew as a performer more than anyone. And so Kris started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality. This is an entertainer competition. Kris Allen gave people a reason to stand behind him and pull off an upset that wasn’t really an upset at all. It was simply inevitable.

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

snifflese wrote: There are always opinions and at the end of the day, we can see where Adam is and where Kris is not. I don't think one single article from right after the finale in 2009 means much. After all, Kris did win. My opinion is that Adam lost it because he was gay. Any time Bill O"Reilly shows him and another guy on National TV back then, he was toast. I wasn't at all surprised how it turned out. Idol was pretty milk toast back then and Kris was the all American boy. But the important thing is where they are now and it goes to show that the better singer doesn't always win. Look at J Hudson. She got kicked off way early and she has had an amazing career. At the end of the day it didn't matter. Adam established a connection with Brian and Roger on the finale and look at where they are now.

snifflese wrote: There are always opinions and at the end of the day, we can see where Adam is and where Kris is not. I don't think one single article from right after the finale in 2009 means much. After all, Kris did win. My opinion is that Adam lost it because he was gay. Any time Bill O"Reilly shows him and another guy on National TV back then, he was toast. I wasn't at all surprised how it turned out. Idol was pretty milk toast back then and Kris was the all American boy. But the important thing is where they are now and it goes to show that the better singer doesn't always win. Look at J Hudson. She got kicked off way early and she has had an amazing career. At the end of the day it didn't matter. Adam established a connection with Brian and Roger on the finale and look at where they are now.

Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.

The Real Wizard wrote: This forum needs a full lobotomy. 2/3 of it is a cesspool of waste. But it's never going to happen. Someone needs to start a new Queen forum that is reasonably moderated, and let this one die a natural death.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)

You really think one article from 2009 which is just one opinion matters now?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)

You really think one article from 2009 which is just one opinion matters now?

It's a better and more interesting read than the conspiracy that homophobia is the "reason" why he didn't win. Why not read and post a different view?

snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.

SweetCaroline wrote: Hmmm, has Kris ever performed in Vegas? Or Japan? Or Australia? Or London? Or Paris? Or Finland? Or Moscow? Or Chins?

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

snifflese wrote: At this point in time, who cares? To me the result is in the pudding and 11 years later the outcome favored the most talented which was Adam. Kris was a very nice homegrown kind of guy and he sang well, but obviously not a star. I agree with RC's assessment of the situation and I believe there was more than a bit of homophobia. Solid conservative people seeing Adam kissing his BF on his Fox show did not do him any favors at all. Nowadays it wouldn't raise any eyebrows, but back then it was quite a surprise. It is amazing the strides that have been made for gay people in a little over 10 years, which is a very good thing!

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.

runner_70 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.

Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who ave clearly lost the plot

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

Young Music Fan wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!

Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker.

Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who have clearly lost the plot

Like yourself

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

snifflese wrote: There was a picture of Adam kissing a boyfriend which Bill O"Reilly chose to share on his 8:00 News Show. It made quite a stir and was in other media for quite a while. I think that since Danny and Kris were Christian conservatives their block stayed together to vote for Kris once Danny was out, especially after Adam had been outed. And of course, Bill shared a few thoughts, not really helpful to Adam. This had a huge effect IMO. I know you don't believe in homophobia concerning Adam, but people weren'tas blase about it as they are now. Adam shared a few thoughts recently on how homophobia affected his career. He is a pretty honest guy and if he felt that way, I am pretty sure it was that way. I could see the homophobia myself. And it is not an excuse. What he did on AMA just about ruined him and that was due to homophobia, so there were several instances and none of them affected his career positively. link

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.

You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer? I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON. And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version. I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC. And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact, OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." "He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)." ....... Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition. THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND "started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality."

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

Saint Jiub wrote: My comments are embedded in your reply to attempt to make this more readable. I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.

You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer? I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON. And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version. I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC. And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact, OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." "He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)." ....... Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition. THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND "started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality."

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.

SweetCaroline wrote: On the current QAL tour so far Adam has not faltered in his vocal performance even while performing in extreme heat and humidity as well as the non-stop torrential downpour in Brisbane!

SweetCaroline wrote: On the current QAL tour so far Adam has not faltered in his vocal performance even while performing in extreme heat and humidity as well as the non-stop torrential downpour in Brisbane!

MisterCosmicc wrote: No wonder the Bohemian Rhapsody film flopped, everyone knows Freddie is gay.

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

The Real Wizard wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.

MisterCosmicc wrote: No wonder the Bohemian Rhapsody film flopped, everyone knows Freddie is gay.

The Real Wizard wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.

Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.

Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamer

So you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use.

As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.

Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.

Fans of Adam, or fans of Queen? Queen have huge concerts, but Adam’s music doesn’t sell. “A lot” should be taken with a grain of salt. Most people go to QAL concerts to see Brian and Roger.

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.

You didnt even know that They were not on the forst album if I did not tell you you twat. I doubt you even own a single Purple album. And as far as seeing bands goes: Thats Like saying seeing Judas Priest now is not with their original singer - true but the classic lineup is what people are looking for not some nobodys that were in the band for 5 minutes. Idiot

ST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.

Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music

Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.

You didnt even know that They were not on the forst album if I did not tell you you twat. I doubt you even own a single Purple album. And as far as seeing bands goes: Thats Like saying seeing Judas Priest now is not with their original singer - true but the classic lineup is what people are looking for not some nobodys that were in the band for 5 minutes. Idiot

I'm sure he did know that, it's not exactly a secret. On the other hand you probably got the infomation from my earlier post. You mentioned Judus Priest, not sure I quite understand why. There first album was recorded with Rob Halford. The previous singer had left before the first album was recorded, so to most of the world Halford is viewed as original, but that's not the only lineup change they went through, and continue to go through. Where do you draw the line on a classic line up. World wide there most successful period was mid 80's but that lineup changed by the early 90's. Can't wait for your next insult as that's the only consistent thing in your posts.

Vocal harmony wrote:

ST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!

True to an extent, but I wouldn't say there is "no magic". Where do you think Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Journey and Fleetwood Mac fit into that argument. All replaced members to become what are largely viewed as the definitive lineups and some had had considerable success before the lineup changes.

snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it.

Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.

I'd never reply to them again if their kids made a video praising Adam as they claim they do, but we both know that'll never happen.

snifflese wrote: Listen you two idiots, my kids are in their late 30's. What is wrong with you two? You and Cosmic's head are so full of shit (you fav word) that you can't see anything beyond your own limited views. You just assume everyone is lying, everyone is full of it, everyone is like the two of you and most people, thank goodness, are not. I take people at their word, as I am one of those who assumes most people are nice and if you treat them that way, they are nice to you. And you wonder, Icy, why I have a certain view of die hard Queen fans? Well, you two reinforce my negative impression daily. It is useless to try to post anything here as you ridicule other posters constantly and call them out and by the way, Icy, if you have to insert "sarcasm" the statement was pretty lame, which is most of what comes out of your mouth. Have fun taking each other down, since there will be no other people left here, which I am sure was your plan all along. All you like minded die hard Queen fans can have fun ripping each other apart when you have no Adam fans to terrorize.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.

- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice

Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.

Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?

On recordings he sounded brilliant, no question that his unique tone, style of singing (which was different than live) and ability to change his style of singing in different songs, going from something so delicate like YTMBA to TYMD shows how versatile he was but live he used a different technique and as you say it led to problems. Live is about more than just technique and when you're in the moment at a show and singing along to all the songs it's easy to ignore the fact someone is straining to hit the notes and especially when they have the kind of stage presence Freddie had so yeah it's still great but in a different way. From a career longevity point of view not so great though, Freddie struggled through concerts like Fukuoka and Tokyo, can't have been fun for him to do regardless if the audience were having a great time.

MisterCosmicc wrote: He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.

The Real Wizard wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.

That's a bit stepfordish, don't you think? Have you even heard the tapes from 79 and 84 where Mercury barely has a voice ?

ST16 wrote: @Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit. Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world. Could you do better?

Peace and Love wrote: Freddie didn't give his all in NZ in 1985. I was very disappointed by the concert that I had scrimped and saved to go to. Love Queen and their music, but Queen is way more than Freddie Mercury.

snifflese wrote: The guys have only cancelled one time because Adam was really ill in Italy. It is amazing when you think they have done 225 shows or so (didn't look it up, so number could be off a bit). Then consider how old Brian and Roger are and I read that in several instances Brian was under the weather and he still performed. He truly is amazing. I could not believe how spry he is and how much of the show he carries. He can never stand back there and take a break. I am a few years younger and no way could I ever do something like that. My hats are off to all of them as they embody the words, The show must go on. I am wondering what will happen to the European tour if this corona virus does not abate. It would not be any fault of theirs, of course, but the whole idea of the world dealing with this grave problem is scary. I just read today that it has come back a second time to someone in Japan, I believe. She had it, recovered, and is ill again! I know that is off track, but still had to mention it.

AngelR wrote: The virus is spreading around here, the UK. There are some affected schools and businesses closed for quarantine today.

Young Music Fan wrote:

AngelR wrote: The virus is spreading around here, the UK. There are some affected schools and businesses closed for quarantine today.

But not necessarily from person to person yet, it's people returning from Italy or Tenerife.

ST16 wrote: @Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit. Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world. Could you do better?

ST16 wrote: Freddie made mistakes he is only human but he gave his all 100% and that is all a human can do! He is still the best front man ever though and that is a fact.

AngelR wrote: Yes, it's the beginning of the corona virus epidemic over here. It will spread unfortunately.

Young Music Fan wrote: I know of its potential but let's hope it's prevented. At least the virus hasn't killed any children as apparently it gets worse as you get older.

runner_70 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

ST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!

True to an extent, but I wouldn't say there is "no magic". Where do you think Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Journey and Fleetwood Mac fit into that argument. All replaced members to become what are largely viewed as the definitive lineups and some had had considerable success before the lineup changes.

So you think QAL is the definitive Queen line up. Ok then. Clown