runner_70 16.02.2020 07:02 |
link If you listen to this and still think Lamebird is s good singer make an appointment with the doc and check your hearing. You can clearly hear that Lamebutt has a paperthin voice who has no power on the rock songs. His vibrato is just annoying. Yes he is hitting high notes but thats it. Martel has way more power in his delivery. And Freddie just kills both of them. Also check the comments. Obviously about 90% of those folks have ears..... |
rockchic65 16.02.2020 07:14 |
runner_70 wrote: link If you listen to this and still think Lamebird is s good singer make an appointment with the doc and check your hearing. You can clearly hear that Lamebutt has a paperthin voice who has no power on the rock songs. His vibrato is just annoying. Yes he is hitting high notes but thats it. Martel has way more power in his delivery. And Freddie just kills both of them. Also check the comments. Obviously about 90% of those folks have ears.....Haha, and now go find the originals those clips were taken from - the sound quality on that guys vids is so variable and the clips he picks (including the ones for his idol Freddie) are very hit and miss, he's great at the technical analysis stuff but picking clips not so much. |
runner_70 16.02.2020 07:22 |
Ok conspiracy theory part 5275. AL doesnt sell albums *because he is gay *because he wants to be independant *because of management mistakes AL does not sound like crap *because you have to be there he sounds completely different then *because of the quality of the recording... Funny stuff If you dont hear that Lamebird is by far the worst of the three then you should really seek help |
stevelondon20 16.02.2020 11:25 |
https://youtu.be/wvcvp8rnKM4 Made it clickable. |
stevelondon20 16.02.2020 11:27 |
As much as I like Adam Lambert, of course it's obvious that Fred is gonna smash him and Marc! |
runner_70 16.02.2020 11:49 |
Marc is smashing Lamebird too |
scallyuk 16.02.2020 11:49 |
Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato. listen to those performances and tell me he was better than Lambert on those nights. On his good nights however he was unbeatable. |
Vocal harmony 16.02.2020 12:40 |
scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato. listen to those performances and tell me he was better than Lambert on those nights. On his good nights however he was unbeatable.Agreed, I've been saying this for a number of years only to be shot down by the same two or three people. Freddie was amazing as a vocalist, song writer and musician. His weakness was that he couldn't deliver that amazing voice live on a consistent basis, Lambert can use the full range of his voice as he chooses, he can also perform the songs in the key they were recorded in, another thing Freddie couldn't always do. Martel is a vocal impersonator, he appears to be, largely, a one trick pony. In technique and vocal sound Freddie and Lambert are originals Marc Martel isn't. |
A Word In Your Ear 16.02.2020 14:07 |
I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on.. |
runner_70 16.02.2020 16:00 |
scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato.Can you please giv me an example of one of his shit performances and his loss of words? Thanx in advance you prick |
runner_70 16.02.2020 16:01 |
A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker |
A Word In Your Ear 16.02.2020 16:23 |
runner_70 wrote:serves me right for not reading everything.. lol!!A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker |
Saint Jiub 16.02.2020 16:57 |
Adam's vocal gymnastics are overwrought. Freddie's performances are warm and appropriately emotionally delivered. There are plenty of excellent live performances by Freddie that the occasional less than perfect performance is unimportant. I would take a substandard performance of Freddie over Adam anytime. Heck, even Seal's emotional tribute performance of Who Wants to Live Forever is better than Adam's performance of this song. |
runner_70 16.02.2020 17:00 |
A Word In Your Ear wrote:Np ;)runner_70 wrote:serves me right for not reading everything.. lol!!A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker |
runner_70 16.02.2020 17:01 |
Saint Jiub wrote: Adam's vocal gymnastics are overwrought. Freddie's performances are warm and appropriately emotionally delivered. There are plenty of excellent live performances by Freddie that the occasional less than perfect performance is unimportant. I would take a substandard performance of Freddie over Adam anytime. Heck, even Seal's emotional tribute performance of Who Wants to Live Forever is better than Adam's performance of this song.very true It is not about hitting the highest notes possible it is about delivering warmth and feeling |
The Circle of Eidolon 16.02.2020 20:39 |
runner_70 wrote:The Circle of Eidolon reads and learns. We have read this thread.A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker runner_70 you have called two forum members idiots for having an opinion on the subject of this thread. You seem to have forgotten that this is a forum where discussion takes place. This discussion is one which you started. If you don't like having no control of the outcome maybe some thought before opening a thread could go a long way. We The Circle of Eidolon have spoken but yet again as history shows you've learnt nothing. |
stevelondon20 16.02.2020 20:52 |
The Circle of Eidolon wrote:Brilliant!!!runner_70 wrote:The Circle of Eidolon reads and learns. We have read this thread. runner_70 you have called two forum members idiots for having an opinion on the subject of this thread. You seem to have forgotten that this is a forum where discussion takes place. This discussion is one which you started. If you don't like having no control of the outcome maybe some thought before opening a thread could go a long way. We The Circle of Eidolon have spoken but yet again as history shows you've learnt nothing.A Word In Your Ear wrote: I still don't get this.... Nobody ever said, Adam or Marc were better singers than Freddie.. Freddie is dead... move on..The two idiots before you did. Lamebird is a screamer hitting high notes with his paperthin voice and annoying yodeling. I rather have Freddie with a cold than this wanker |
Iron Butterfly 16.02.2020 21:27 |
Saint Jiub wrote: Adam's vocal gymnastics are overwrought. Freddie's performances are warm and appropriately emotionally delivered. There are plenty of excellent live performances by Freddie that the occasional less than perfect performance is unimportant. I would take a substandard performance of Freddie over Adam anytime. Heck, even Seal's emotional tribute performance of Who Wants to Live Forever is better than Adam's performance of this song.With you here. AL seems as if he is trying way to hard just to try to impress with lack of emotion most of the time,IMO. It's not all about hitting the high notes when it comes to Queen's music. It's about emotion and feeling. |
runner_70 16.02.2020 21:43 |
Well said |
Nathan H 16.02.2020 22:48 |
Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did. |
Saint Jiub 16.02.2020 23:57 |
Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 01:05 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Well at least PR wasn't a horn dog looking for Somebody To Love, so at least there is that. I sometimes look at AL, and it comes across as if he's brazen...and not in a good way. He isn't very authentic sometimes. The most real I've seen AL in all the years of Q+AL is when he dedicated a song to the shooting victims. Gotta admit, I really liked him singing three other songs as well, which I dare ot mention because a glambert or two will here will have something to say about it.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Freddie at his "worst" still is better than AL and his...acting. I've said many times being able to hit high notes isn't everything. There was so much more to Freddie than hitting notes. AL can hit notes sure, but I rather have raw, real emotion and grit any day. Freddie had that ans so much more and it was a big part of his appeal. |
AngelR 17.02.2020 02:55 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Paul Rodger's range is hardly limited, it's over 3 octaves. He's the grear singer. As you said above, vocalist can't be defined by his range only. "Rangeless" Adele is a good example! Apologies to Paul's fans but I find his singing style boring. Don't think I could've stomached a 2,5 hours show with him reading lyrics he wouldn't have bothered to learn (talking about his showmanship). Would be really nice if he appeared as a guest at one of the Queen + AL shows though. Maybe he could sing his own song and one Queen song with Adam. Adam is incredible vocalist live, not sure why there's so much snobbery towards him. Would've been so much worse if he acted as a hard rocker instead of genuine Adam Lambert with a self deprecating sense of humour. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 03:05 |
AngelR wrote:Paul Rodgers singing a Queen song with ALat a Q+AL concert. I doubt that will ever happen. Say what you want about Paul and Q+PR, at least there was no cheesy gimmicks. With Q+AL there is gimmicks, scripted stuff. I can't imagine President ever going around onstage on a tricycle, bike etc, thank goodness for that.Saint Jiub wrote:Paul Rodger's range is hardly limited, it's over 3 octaves. He's the grear singer. As you said above, vocalist can't be defined by his range only. "Rangeless" Adele is a good example! Apologies to Paul's fans but I find his singing style boring. Don't think I could've stomached a 2,5 hours show with him reading lyrics he wouldn't have bothered to learn (talking about his showmanship). Would be really nice if he appeared as a guest at one of the Queen + AL shows though. Maybe he could sing his own song and one Queen song with Adam. Adam is incredible vocalist live, not sure why there's so much snobbery towards him. Would've been so much worse if he acted as a rocker and not himself.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Funny thing how many Glamberts try to knock Paula down to try to make AL seem better. |
AngelR 17.02.2020 03:22 |
Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-) |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 03:35 |
AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)Oh sorry, I didn't know I had to ask your permission to reply to you here. You should put a disclaimer on your posts that only certain people can reply to you, and that's what you want and need. It's funny how many Glamberts say Paul was boring, then turn around to big up Lambert. Funny thing that I notired through the years. My obsession you say, sorry, not sorry I'm not obsessed with Lambert at all. I wouldn't want to be with him, or anyone. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 05:52 |
Night after night they kill it: link |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 06:11 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Night after night they kill it: linkKill what? A dead horse? I give it two out of four stars. That was supposed to be a fun song, but Adam killed the fun. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 06:21 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Night after night they kill it: linkNo close up of Brian even during the solo. After it, camera zooms right in on Lambert, I guess a glambert is behind the video. Not the best example of killing it. He really looks and sounds he is trying too hard, even with this. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 06:26 |
I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! link |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 06:49 |
So you want to have fun? link |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 06:51 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! link-------- It was Freddie. It will always be Freddie who is the legendary performer, writer, groundbreaker no matter how much you want and need everything to be AL's time to shine. Poor, sad you, who will never realise how great Freddie was. You are too busy bigging AL up on Queen boards even to to notice or care about anything else, not even the music or the man who has put him where AL is now. You pretty much showed what you thought when you said it was Live Aid 2.0...when it's nowhere near to what Freddie, Brian Roger and John and all those other artists and fans did in 85. You don't even realise that much. You want AL to do everything and to be everywhere Freddie was, because it gets all all the attention and praise, and that's what matters to you. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 06:51 |
Back to Sydney ..... link |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 06:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: So you want to have fun? linkNow you are spamming. Any excuse to post a video. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 06:58 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Back to Sydney ..... linkWhat's the matter, SweetCaroline? Worried that people might want to discuss Freddie, Paul and Marc? |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 07:21 |
As Freddie would say, icy, fuck you!!!!! |
The Fairy King 17.02.2020 07:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote:^Thisscallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato. listen to those performances and tell me he was better than Lambert on those nights. On his good nights however he was unbeatable.Agreed, I've been saying this for a number of years only to be shot down by the same two or three people. Freddie was amazing as a vocalist, song writer and musician. His weakness was that he couldn't deliver that amazing voice live on a consistent basis, Lambert can use the full range of his voice as he chooses, he can also perform the songs in the key they were recorded in, another thing Freddie couldn't always do. Martel is a vocal impersonator, he appears to be, largely, a one trick pony. In technique and vocal sound Freddie and Lambert are originals Marc Martel isn't. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 07:41 |
SweetCaroline wrote: As Freddie would say, icy, fuck you!!!!!--------- You surely do know you are sounding cray cray here, or don't you?. You think Freddie would tell me that because of my posts on a message board? Seriously, get a grip because you lose your grip more and more. You haven't the slightest idea of what Freddie would say, so stop using him to try to boost your opinions...actually, you don't have much of an opinion to give, let alone share. I guess I hit a nerve somehow. I'm not wrong here, you really can't stand the attention being away from AL, even for a couple of posts, on a Queen board. So, fuck you. You are firmly and truly isolated in that Lambert bubble you live in. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 07:53 |
Comin’ In Hot ..... link |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 08:07 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Comin’ In Hot ..... linkOk, what is one of the worst songs AL ever done supposed to prove, except you are spamming the shit out of this thread by posting his and Q+AL stuff? Yea, I guess you really don't want people to discuss any other artists in here, not even Freddie. Got it. Look at the still before the video starts. He looks terrible with his tongue hanging out. Does he think that's sexy? |
Nathan H 17.02.2020 08:20 |
Saint Jiub wrote:I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 11:00 |
Young Music Fan wrote:All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert.Saint Jiub wrote:I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 11:12 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! linkits always going to be FREDDIE. You didn’t mention him, but you wish you could have... you were thinking it. Eventually in the future, Adam won’t even be remembered for touring with Queen. It may seem sad to you, but it’s true. Freddie made classic songs that’ll be remembered forever, and Freddie was a power house. An amazing, interesting character Freddie was. Not once in my life have I heard Adam being mentioned by people unless it was American Idol or Queen related, and eventually the Queen part will fade, because Freddie’s more famous than the Adam. They’ll always mention the hit songs, Live Aid, Freddie’s lifestyle, his sexuality, and his sad, early death. It all will all keep Freddie the subject of conversation. Adam won’t be mentioned. I’ve never heard him mentioned by any Queen fan in person as it is. His music isn’t mentioned, either. Just his name if a tour is coming up. Or mention of his past with American Idol. You’ll probably go to the grave thinking Adam’s a legendary man, but he’s not. He’s your legend, not the world’s... they have Freddie. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 11:19 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:She complains so much about Trump and his dumb worshippers, but she’s no different... she treats Adam the way Trump worshippers treat Trump. They think so highly of people that no matter what anyone says or points out, they’ll all think their “God” is the best.SweetCaroline wrote: I’m afraid you’re stuck with him now — no Paul! no Marc! rain or shine it’s gonna be Adam! linkIt was Freddie. It will always be Freddie who is the legendary performer, writer, groundbreaker no matter how much you want and need everything to be AL's time to shine. Poor, sad you, who will never realise how great Freddie was. You are too busy bigging AL up on Queen boards even to to notice or care about anything else, not even the music who has put him where AL is now. You pretty much showed what you thought when you said it was Live Aid 2.0...when it's nowhere near to what Freddie, Brian Roger and John and all those other artists and fans did in 85. You don't even realise that. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 11:20 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Back to Sydney ..... linkWhere’s the comparisons? Irrelevant to this thread. In fact, as Icy said, you didn’t contribute anything to this thread except spam. You made no comment on the comparisons or anything. It’s truly disgusting how you act about Adam. How you are about Adam is no different than how one of those stupid, blind Trump worshippers act about Trump. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 13:48 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Careful, she's on a rant here. Anything or anyone she feels is in AL's "way" she will try to bulldoze. So yea, no surprise she ranting and spamming.SweetCaroline wrote: Back to Sydney ..... linkWhere’s the comparisons? Irrelevant to this thread. In fact, as Icy said, you didn’t contribute anything to this thread except spam. You made no comment on the comparisons or anything. It’s truly disgusting how you act about Adam. How you are about Adam is no different than how one of those stupid, blind Trump worshippers act about Trump. |
Nathan H 17.02.2020 13:50 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I was seven when I got into Queen, so blues wasn't my thing back then and still isn't now. (I really like All Right Now and Can't Get Enough but to me that isn't blues but rock.) When you're a child you want to be entertained visually not just audibly so AL definitely does that.Young Music Fan wrote:All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it.Saint Jiub wrote:I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. Adam can sing in the original key which Freddie couldn't with every song he sang live. But I don't want that to be taken away from him because Freddie is the greatest. I want to see Brian and Roger live so Q+AL is the way I can achieve this. Adam is one of the best people who could perform with Queen now. What do you expect from him? He's singing Queen songs with Queen and you're expecting him not to sing like Queen did? |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 14:04 |
Young Music Fan wrote:Adam’s voice is high, but not powerful. His vocals just don’t have the power that Freddie’s do, not in any circumstance because of the way Adam delivers his vocals. He’s always using vocal gymnastics when some songs are supposed to be simple. Sometimes he’s not singing fast paced songs very well because he has the habit to leave his vocal flair.MisterCosmicc wrote:I was seven when I got into Queen, so blues wasn't my thing back then and still isn't now. (I really like All Right Now and Can't Get Enough but to me that isn't blues but rock.) When you're a child you want to be entertained visually not just audibly so AL definitely does that. Adam can sing in the original key which Freddie couldn't with every song he sang live. But I don't want that to be taken away from him because Freddie is the greatest. I want to see Brian and Roger live so Q+AL is the way I can achieve this. Adam is one of the best people who could perform with Queen now. What do you expect from him? He's singing Queen songs with Queen and you're expecting him not to sing like Queen did?Young Music Fan wrote:All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it.Saint Jiub wrote:I just find it really hard to listen to recordings of Freddie struggling to sing or hit the notes because I know he could've done better, he knows he could've done better and everyone knows he could've done better. Adam's appearance is certainly memorable which you sort of want from a concert. I've never got into Q+PR because it was all over before I started listening to Queen more often. I rather hear a larger catalogue of Queen songs that I know and love who can sing in the original style.Young Music Fan wrote: Freddie is the greatest, there's no denying it. But, he wasn't the most consistent singer ever. Some tours are incredibly weak whilst compared to others e.g. The Works Tour vs Crazy Tour. But, there's no denying that at every one of these shows he still showed his emotion and connectivity with the audience which very few people have ever been able to do to the same extent. Adam is a great singer who can hit all the notes without any problems which Freddie couldn't all the time - some songs had to have key changes to help him sing live, but I don't want to take that away from Freddie because his singing on these are still incredibly powerful. Adam does a very theatrical performance with everything he sings which you couldn't do in Freddie's lifetime which just shows how different times are now from when they were back then which makes it incredibly hard to compare. Adam definitely gives Freddie a run for his money on his singing ability but generally Freddie's emotion and powerfulness with his singing is faultless at nearly every show he ever did.Good singing is more than just hitting the notes. As you note, Freddie's singing with showmanship, emotion and power is indispensible. I would rather listen to Freddie during the Works tour with his voice as raw as a vulture's crotch than listen to QAL. I would rather listen to QPR, with Paul Rodger's limited voice but excellent showmanship than put up with Adam's cheesy stunts and vocal histronics. I’ll never ever enjoy Adam’s vocal delivery on Queen’s hard rock songs, it’s just not my thing. The louder Freddie was in a song, the more Adam tends to sing higher because he can’t keep a lower range at the same level of volume that Freddie could. I think Adam has more capabilities outside of rock. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 14:04 |
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Star* 17.02.2020 14:12 |
People you are missing the point here because Freddie was a rock n roll singer and Adam is west end cabaret hardly comparable. Furthermore Freddie had more going for him than Adam's high kicks and splits vocals. Freddie played piano and guitar and even gave that band direction and leadership he was also the master of the stadiums making every pair of hands clap and get involved. Adam has miles and miles to go and will never get the respect Fred has. No contest here because Freddie wins easily. Furthermore Freddie always said he never wanted to go on stage and sing a song identical to the album track as that would be boring something you glambert's think is important in a live performance which is rubbish. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 14:38 |
I wasn’t spamming last night — I was having fun. I started out watching the Sydney Fire Fight Show and then picked up a video from the same page with that video which was I Want To Break Free and then another video from that page which was Bicycle Race and then the video CLTCL in the downpour and back to the Sydney Show and then finally the GMA Show with Queen songs and songs from the Velvet album. I was comparing Adam to the others by spontaneously posting his wide range of performance. But you didn’t get it. As usual icy thinks I was bigging him up. I think it is too early to know if and for what exactly Adam will be noted or remembered. Hopefully, he will be around for awhile and still making his mark. For now it won’t be just about his time on Idol although he definitely left his impression there, He could be remembered as the kid who was soooo good that he was able to tour around the world 3 going on 4 times with two legendary musicians performing their iconic music before thousands of happy fans. Mention his name on YouTube and there is an abundance of videos to choose from before and during Idol, before and during QAL, and whatever will be coming next. |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 15:03 |
Adam never sounds like his recordings. We have been saying that we like him better and that he sounds better when he is singing live. And he changes it up at every performance. When he toured 50 cities with the Season 8 AI top 10 kids, he performed the same songs but each time he added a different touch. Again, Freddie is Freddie. Adam always says he is NOT Freddie; he is Adam! I’m not Marilyn Monroe and I am glad because I would have been dead a long time ago. |
MisterCosmicc 17.02.2020 16:01 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I wasn’t spamming last night — I was having fun. I started out watching the Sydney Fire Fight Show and then picked up a video from the same page with that video which was I Want To Break Free and then another video from that page which was Bicycle Race and then the video CLTCL in the downpour and back to the Sydney Show and then finally the GMA Show with Queen songs and songs from the Velvet album. I was comparing Adam to the others by spontaneously posting his wide range of performance. But you didn’t get it. As usual icy thinks I was bigging him up. I think it is too early to know if and for what exactly Adam will be noted or remembered. Hopefully, he will be around for awhile and still making his mark. For now it won’t be just about his time on Idol although he definitely left his impression there, He could be remembered as the kid who was soooo good that he was able to tour around the world 3 going on 4 times with two legendary musicians performing their iconic music before thousands of happy fans. Mention his name on YouTube and there is an abundance of videos to choose from before and during Idol, before and during QAL, and whatever will be coming next.He won’t be remembered for touring with Queen. When people hear the word Queen, they think of Freddie. Once Adam stops touring with Queen, it’ll be old news. Just like Paul Rodgers. Adam didn’t create a classic song with Queen. No music videos, no number one hits. Adam’s not know as a rock and roller. Adam toured with Queen, it’s not groundbreaking. Adam will be remembered by few for it, but he won’t be remember by the general public. Many people could even care less about seeing Adam with Queen. Adam’s also known for having a small fan base, they’ll grow old and the fan base will shrink. |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 16:33 |
All that high pitched noise is not what I want to listen to at a rock concert. Paul Rodgers and Adam both don’t sing like Freddie, Adam pulling high notes every two seconds, trying to glamorize the singing (which is why he has a hard time singing fast paced lyrics). So what do you mean original style? Also, if you watch Adam’s videos on YouTube, they are in the past no different than Paul’s... the reason you don’t watch Paul is that you aren’t a fan of his, I understand, but don’t use other things as an excuse. Freddie’s performances are always memorable, including the SNL appearance. Adam actually sounds so damn boring compared to Freddie, because Adam sings it the same damn way all the time with little variance. What it boils down to is that you’re an Adam fan. You may have liked a Queen song or two casually back then, but once you got into Adam, that’s the sudden interest in Queen related crap. Why do people have a hard time coming out and saying it? I don’t get it. ^ This |
snifflese 17.02.2020 16:41 |
If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~ |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 16:50 |
SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span.
This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site.
Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitime of being a bad guest on this forum.
In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.
Here are the QZ guidelines:
Richard Orchard wrote: Welcome to the Queenzone.com forums. Thank you for joining us. However, to ensure that things run smoothly, there are a few guidelines we all need to: 1. If you are posting many messages in a short space of time, you are doing something wrong. Try, where possible to post one topic instead of five. 2. If you want to post stuff like "I am bored, i thought i would post a message" - then the Queen forum is not the place. Coming soon, there will a place for you write stuff when you are bored :) I get bored too, so i know how you feel! 3. Please try and post items with some substance. "How tall was Freddie" doesn't count. We want serious Queen discussion here. 4. Read the biography. Read the FAQ before posting. If you are new to Queen, that is great. I am so happy that you have come to Queenzone.com. But, posting the same "easy", obvious questions makes the board less fun for older Queenzone.com members. This board has a very open attidude to freedom of speech, and will always remain so. Following these guideliness will ensure that this board continues to offer a quality location for Queen related discussion. Thanks for your help, Richard |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 17:03 |
snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~Boo Hoo - Sniffy is trying to censor constructive criticism of Adam. This is a discussion site, and meant to discuss all aspects of Queen ... not just the marvelous and spectacular. This topic has specific constructive criticism as to why some Queen fans do not like Adam Lambert. Deal with it. Nearly every Sniffy post takes potshots at Icy. Occasionally she might post about QAL. In other words, fuck off Sniffy, you cunt bubble snowflake. |
snifflese 17.02.2020 17:36 |
Personally, St Jiub, I would prefer Span to your nasty crap. I didn't say a negative thing about Icy, I just referenced her fav word, which is bandied about a lot around here and thought you might better understand that one. You can dislike all you want, but repeating it day after day after day is kind of a waste of your time and mine. |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 17:50 |
Did an elderly woman just clutch her pearls? |
snifflese 17.02.2020 17:51 |
If you think this is a discussion board ,you must have forgotten to take your meds this morning, as there is no discussion here. The only discussion allowed on here is how awful QAL and Adam are together with a bunch of filthy phrases targeting other posters. Not sure how that qualifies as a "discussion". |
Star* 17.02.2020 17:54 |
Havnt you got books to mark Maaaaaaaaaam ? |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 18:21 |
Let’s see, over 200 shows with an average of 20,000 people at every show. That would be at least 4,000,000 fans who might remember the fabulous vocalist/entertainer they were mesmerized by in the past 8 years! |
Star* 17.02.2020 19:03 |
Many only attended the concerts to see Brian & Roger as many were true Queen fans. |
Saint Jiub 17.02.2020 19:35 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Let’s see, over 200 shows with an average of 20,000 people at every show. That would be at least 4,000,000 fans who might remember the fabulous vocalist/entertainer they were mesmerized by in the past 8 years!That is less than half the population of Wuhan. |
runner_70 17.02.2020 19:38 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Let’s see, over 200 shows with an average of 20,000 people at every show. That would be at least 4,000,000 fans who might remember the fabulous vocalist/entertainer they were mesmerized by in the past 8 years!Mesmerized by this annoying goat with the paperthin voice? I managed to get thru 15 seconds of Hammer to Fall. Lamebutts voice is so powerless he has no chance against Mays brickwall guitar. Freddie did that effortless and powerful and without annoying screaming |
snifflese 17.02.2020 19:53 |
The number is way bigger than that. There were 450,000 at the first Kiev show. The show the another night was 40,000 and the Fire Benefit was 70,000. There were lots of shows with way over 20,000 and not many under. But really so what? The people who were there, whatever the number, will remember the great night that they experienced. That is the important part. If you don't like it, you don't have to go, but those that attend seem to really, really enjoy it based on all the social media I have seen. Just because you here on QZ don't appreciate it, you people are not really part of the mix. The detractors who absolutely hate it are dwindling every concert, every year. Those folks have their old CD's and maybe records and old videos. They also have something they can enjoy. It is all good!! |
SweetCaroline 17.02.2020 20:59 |
Yep, two Queen fans posted very positive reviews on the QOL forum of their respective Brisbane and Sydney concerts this past week both of them saying that the current QAL show is the best live show out there! |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 21:27 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I wasn’t spamming last night — I was having fun. I started out watching the Sydney Fire Fight Show and then picked up a video from the same page with that video which was I Want To Break Free and then another video from that page which was Bicycle Race and then the video CLTCL in the downpour and back to the Sydney Show and then finally the GMA Show with Queen songs and songs from the Velvet album. I was comparing Adam to the others by spontaneously posting his wide range of performance. But you didn’t get it. As usual icy thinks I was bigging him up. I think it is too early to know if and for what exactly Adam will be noted or remembered. Hopefully, he will be around for awhile and still making his mark. For now it won’t be just about his time on Idol although he definitely left his impression there, He could be remembered as the kid who was soooo good that he was able to tour around the world 3 going on 4 times with two legendary musicians performing their iconic music before thousands of happy fans. Mention his name on YouTube and there is an abundance of videos to choose from before and during Idol, before and during QAL, and whatever will be coming next.Having fun is how you try to excuse what you did. Fact, you take any chance to try to promote AL on Queen boards. Wide range of performances my ass. You just could not stand for anyone to discuss Freddie or PR even for a post or two. You just had to squeeze AL in there. Don't forget, you lost your shit. Now you use Freddie to boost your ego saying he would tell me to fuck off. You hardly even know what the man liked, or didn't like. You should know this, Freddie had a thicker skin than you could ever have, and the man has more guts than you could ever hope to have. You can fuck right off, from me to you. |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 21:32 |
snifflese wrote: Personally, St Jiub, I would prefer Span to your nasty crap. I didn't say a negative thing about Icy, I just referenced her fav word, which is bandied about a lot around here and thought you might better understand that one. You can dislike all you want, but repeating it day after day after day is kind of a waste of your time and mine.Of course you would prefer spam by SweetCaroline than the word shit being used, no surprise Glambert code strikes again. Your shitty defense and hypocrisy strikes again. You have used the word shit before,so why the hypocrisy? I use the word shit, and i guess thats another black mark you have against me. Do you seriously thrive on things I post to be insulted and offended about. Where is your outrage when SweetCaroline told me to fuck off, in this thread oh that's right.you have nothing to say about that. Of course you don't...and you wonder that except to defend it. You definitely like to spread shit, this is one example. You more than clutch your pearls, you lose your mind over the fact I type out the word shit. You are older than I am, but about time, way overdue for you to get some common sense. The way you act here is ridiculous. |
runner_70 17.02.2020 21:34 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Yep, two Queen fans posted very positive reviews on the QOL forum of their respective Brisbane and Sydney concerts this past week both of them saying that the current QAL show is the best live show out there!They obviously havent seen much shows then |
Iron Butterfly 17.02.2020 22:15 |
snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~Do you even realise that you post on a Queen board?? You seem to see red every time Freddie is discussed by other people here. Whats the matter snifflese, you worried too that mentioning Freddie will be somehow be bad for AL. You are here and you can't be bothered to learn, post about Freddie or Queen. You don't want to be criticised by Queen fans is how you reason that. No, you just can't be bothered to learn or post about it. I'm sure you are happy as long as it's Lambert and only Lambert singing Queen songs, nothing else matters to you. Sorry, not sorry, you are a bit too obvious. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 00:08 |
snifflese wrote: The number is way bigger than that. There were 450,000 at the first Kiev show. The show the another night was 40,000 and the Fire Benefit was 70,000. There were lots of shows with way over 20,000 and not many under. But really so what? The people who were there, whatever the number, will remember the great night that they experienced. That is the important part. If you don't like it, you don't have to go, but those that attend seem to really, really enjoy it based on all the social media I have seen. Just because you here on QZ don't appreciate it, you people are not really part of the mix. The detractors who absolutely hate it are dwindling every concert, every year. Those folks have their old CD's and maybe records and old videos. They also have something they can enjoy. It is all good!!Why the Hell do you always list concerts that have numerous artists as QAL’s big concerts? I’ll never list Live Aid as a measure of Queen popularity as there were a bunch of other bands and artists there. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 00:26 |
snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~Sorry, but anything Roger and Brian do touring wise can’t compete with the legacy created while Freddie was alive. It’s a fact. And Adam’s a prop, he really is. He’s giving Brian and Roger something to do, and he knows it’s the most important thing he does. But touring and playing old songs as a replacement singer isn’t legendary, no matter how long they do it. Freddie’s popularity is so huge, that Adam’s touring is dwarfed. Most adults could care less about Adam, but they know and listen to Freddie. Most of those going to QAL concerts aren’t even hardcore Queen fans, they are people who want to go to a concert. Many are hardcore Queen fans who want to see Brian and Roger (and multiple fans who go to the concerts have said so over the past few weeks). And then there’s a crowd of Adam Worshippers, but it’s not a huge crowd. Adam isn’t even known much for his solo music, he’s more known for Queen and American Idol. The only time he’s mentioned on the radio is about a QAL concert coming up. My local radio station loves discussing Freddie, but not once have they decided to talk about Adam and his concerts with Queen, they only mention an upcoming concert. It’s nothing special compared to it Quern with Freddie performing. I know a lot of Queen fans in person, Adam isn’t discussed, because he’s just not part of what Queen’s famous for, and even Adam knows that. Adam knows perfectly well that the years Freddie was with the band was the most important. Yes, overtime, Adam won’t be talked about much more. Queen created. QAL re-creates. There’s a difference, and two hundred years from now, no music teacher will be pulling out a film to educate teenagers on the importance of QAL. |
snifflese 18.02.2020 00:49 |
But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 00:51 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Bravo, MisterCosmicc.snifflese wrote: If you want the Adam fans to say you are right about Freddie, I agree with you. Now, can you just stop with all the Adam comparisons?. No one on here who like Adam ever says he will be more famous than Freddie, or anything of that nature. I doubt any of us really care about his legacy or whether he will be remembered. You WIN! Just stop with the nonsense. I don't know why you keep repeating the same stuff. Most people who enjoy QAL and Adam aren't making a comparison between the two. We are just enjoying the Queen music as it is being played right now. It doesn't require comparisons to Freddie and how Adam will never measure up. In Icy terms, why do you always have to BIG UP Freddie? Everybody already knows how great Freddie is. I do, however, take issue with one of your remarks as I rather doubt, just my opinion, that no one will ever remember Adam touring with Queen. You can't wipe out the last 8 years and who knows how much longer. There will be a chapter somewhere about this part of Queen's history. People talk about the PR era and this QAL eral has lasted longer and done a lot more tours. So do disagree with your opinion on that, but it doesn't matter one way or the other to me and not sure why Adam and QAL bothers you so much. You still have your hero and you don't have to listen to QAL~Sorry, but anything Roger and Brian do touring wise can’t compete with the legacy created while Freddie was alive. It’s a fact. And Adam’s a prop, he really is. He’s giving Brian and Roger something to do, and he knows it’s the most important thing he does. But touring and playing old songs as a replacement singer isn’t legendary, no matter how long they do it. Freddie’s popularity is so huge, that Adam’s touring is dwarfed. Most adults could care less about Adam, but they know and listen to Freddie. Most of those going to QAL concerts aren’t even hardcore Queen fans, they are people who want to go to a concert. Many are hardcore Queen fans who want to see Brian and Roger (and multiple fans who go to the concerts have said so over the past few weeks). And then there’s a crowd of Adam Worshippers, but it’s not a huge crowd. Adam isn’t even known much for his solo music, he’s more known for Queen and American Idol. The only time he’s mentioned on the radio is about a QAL concert coming up. My local radio station loves discussing Freddie, but not once have they decided to talk about Adam and his concerts with Queen, they only mention an upcoming concert. It’s nothing special compared to it Quern with Freddie performing. I know a lot of Queen fans in person, Adam isn’t discussed, because he’s just not part of what Queen’s famous for, and even Adam knows that. Adam knows perfectly well that the years Freddie was with the band was the most important. Yes, overtime, Adam won’t be talked about much more. Queen created. QAL re-creates. There’s a difference, and two hundred years from now, no music teacher will be pulling out a film to educate teenagers on the importance of QAL. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 00:53 |
runner_70 wrote:Wait - so you worship Freddie Mercury as a flawless singer, yet you don't even possess cursory knowledge of their live tapes? And you continue to throw out ad hominems towards people who do?scallyuk wrote: Freddies live performances over the years have varied in quality from Awesome to absolute shite. He wasn't always able to hit the notes , he very rarely remembered the words 100% and he occasionally had a very sheepy vibrato.Can you please giv me an example of one of his shit performances and his loss of words? Thanx in advance you prick Your stupidity and ignorance just keeps getting better and better. |
AngelR 18.02.2020 00:56 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:The only "funny thing" that I noticed through the years is your obsession with Adam Lambert, Icy.AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)Oh sorry, I didn't know I had to ask your permission to reply to you here. You should put a disclaimer on your posts that only certain people can reply to you, and that's what you want and need. It's funny how many Glamberts say Paul was boring, then turn around to big up Lambert. Funny thing that I notired through the years. My obsession you say, sorry, not sorry I'm not obsessed with Lambert at all. I wouldn't want to be with him, or anyone. I don't need your opinion about my opinion about Paul Rodgers - it's bizarre. I'd love to see Paul one day as the guest at the Queen + AL show. Maybe a special appearance at the Wembley Stadium next year? Would've been great fun for all fans. Well...apart from some wierdos on Queenzone. :-) |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 00:58 |
runner_70 wrote: It is not about hitting the highest notes possible it is about delivering warmth and feeling...which is ultimately subjective. So it does not warrant the abuse you hurl out at anyone whose opinion on the matter differs from yours. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 00:58 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:02 |
snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.You say who cares?! Many people care about the music of Queen's. Oh you care, as ,ongoing as lamp is singing the Queen songs, and that's all you care about out, as long as he is getting the money and praise...and you don't give a shit about the legacy of one of the men who put him there. That's what you don't care about. You like Adam, you like Queen, not a word about Freddie. Got it. Oh you don't like the word big up. My God, how you look for things to find offense with. You have completely lost the plot since that bothers you so much. As for your not having time to read or learn about Freddie and Queen, that's bullshit. You have more enough time to post in this subforum, but nowhere else, let alone to learn about the band, but yet you give his lessons about Lambert, funny enough. Nevermind having time to do all the other shit you do here. Admt it, you don't care about anything to do with Freddie or Queen. I wasn't bugging the mods, many spam bots have made its way to QOL since it started. That was the point of that thread. Oh you noticed, but you spin your tales...running here to do so. Go over there to post your shit, snifflese, but you like SweetCaroline don't have the guts to do it over there. You are also gutless. Get your facts straight. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:03 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Bravo, Saint Jiub. Careful though that might set of off the two Glamberts here.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 01:08 |
snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:08 |
AngelR wrote:Really? Why do you say I'm obsessed? When I say I'm like a second mother to AL, posting his personal life on Queen boards, then you can day I'm obsessed with him. I haven't done that, do you haven't got a leg to stand on.Iron Butterfly wrote:The only "funny thing" that I noticed through the years is your obsession with Adam Lambert, Icy. I don't need your opinion about my opinion about Paul Rodgers - it's bizarre. I'd love to see Paul one day as the guest at the Queen + AL show. Maybe a special appearance at the Wembley Stadium next year? Would've been great fun for all fans. Well...apart from some wierdos on Queenzone. :-)AngelR wrote: Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, Icy. Niether I was trying to knock Paul Rodgers down. Your obsession with Adam is 'funny thing' though. :-)Oh sorry, I didn't know I had to ask your permission to reply to you here. You should put a disclaimer on your posts that only certain people can reply to you, and that's what you want and need. It's funny how many Glamberts say Paul was boring, then turn around to big up Lambert. Funny thing that I notired through the years. My obsession you say, sorry, not sorry I'm not obsessed with Lambert at all. I wouldn't want to be with him, or anyone. Oh you want PR as a guest at Wembley, even though you think he's boring. Huh, does Q+AL have Wembley dates for next year? I'm not aware of any, did I miss something? |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:12 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:28 |
Snifflese, I hope I made it clear on QOL just ow that my issue was with spam bots on QOL. I think even the mods understood where I was coming from. You didn't, so instead of asking me about it, you run here, to twist your tale..Pretty much shit stir, here not on QOL where I actually posted about it. Feel free to take it up over there, but I know you won't, because you are also gutless. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 01:32 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Nothing wrong with any of that.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 01:37 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring.MisterCosmicc wrote:Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams! |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 01:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Saint Jiub wrote:Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 01:47 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Or maybe his comment about being a grown up extends to allowing SC to worship Adam if that's what she wants, how is her worshipping Adam harming anyone else? The only reason it's a problem is the few who chase her constantly from thread to thread to bitch about every little thing she posts while the Grown Ups just scroll past stuff they aren't interested in including the links she posts - what a concept eh.The Real Wizard wrote:I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Saint Jiub wrote:Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 01:50 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Why does this matter so much to you? I ignore her posts, but I don't see her slandering anyone to justify what she personally enjoys. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 01:56 |
Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitime of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.Why are offended by SC but not by the constant torrent of hate and slander from runner_70 ? |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 01:57 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.Iron Butterfly wrote:Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!MisterCosmicc wrote:Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 02:00 |
rockchic65 wrote:Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.MisterCosmicc wrote:Or maybe his comment about being a grown up extends to allowing SC to worship Adam if that's what she wants, how is her worshipping Adam harming anyone else? The only reason it's a problem is the few who chase her constantly from thread to thread to bitch about every little thing she posts while the Grown Ups just scroll past stuff they aren't interested in including the links she posts - what a concept eh.The Real Wizard wrote:I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Saint Jiub wrote:Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 02:00 |
rockchic65 wrote:Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.MisterCosmicc wrote:Or maybe his comment about being a grown up extends to allowing SC to worship Adam if that's what she wants, how is her worshipping Adam harming anyone else? The only reason it's a problem is the few who chase her constantly from thread to thread to bitch about every little thing she posts while the Grown Ups just scroll past stuff they aren't interested in including the links she posts - what a concept eh.The Real Wizard wrote:I’d bet if SweetCaroline and Snifflese weren’t here, this QAL section would be near inactive. You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Saint Jiub wrote:Nothing wrong with any of that. All of the 60s and 70s acts still out there now aren't reinventing the wheel - they are nostalgia shows, and aren't pretending to be anything but. If people don't like the idea of seeing Queen with two original members, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go. If people don't like the idea of seeing Yes with no original members, then don't go. The amount of hate this attracts - purely because people feel their memories are somehow being tampered with - is just off the charts. Don't go. Listen to the old albums. And be a grown up and let people enjoy something you yourself don't enjoy. But the internet wouldn't be the internet without trolls and bullies. It's easier to break something down than to create something yourself.MisterCosmicc wrote: Queen created. QAL re-creates.Not quite correct. It should be: Queen created. QAL regurgitates. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 02:03 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:I know... whenever someone other than you criticizes them, they reply but usually create a paragraph or two directed at you.MisterCosmicc wrote:You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.Iron Butterfly wrote:Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!MisterCosmicc wrote:Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 02:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Her comments towards others and call out posts. There’s plenty in there, and her essential spamming of links irrelevant to a thread. It’s annoying, and hard to ignore.MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Why does this matter so much to you? I ignore her posts, but I don't see her slandering anyone to justify what she personally enjoys. I love your website, by the way. I’m on it all the time, I just never got to let you know. And I must say that Saint Jiub does go after Runner about his behavior. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 02:07 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.And to quote TRW why does it matter? What real difference does it make if she posts links and tweets or whatever, I don't click on the majority I just scroll past, it's far easier to scroll past the links than the huge posts of personal arguments reiterating the same rubbish over and over page after page. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 02:09 |
The Real Wizard wrote:She does slander. She has come from QOL after her bans to place blame me for the bans, four or five now. Not good enough. She blames me for other people's bans as well. That's slander right there, lies that she has been posting about me since 2014, after her first ban. Basically lying and shit stirring.MisterCosmicc wrote: You’re another one who doesn’t notice SweetCaroline’s crazy worship of Adam.Why does this matter so much to you? I ignore her posts, but I don't see her slandering anyone to justify what she personally enjoys. She has had a go at me for what she thought about my mental health, as she knew my father was dying. Her words my parents were healthier than me, weeks before my father passed away. That's the ugliest of anything I've seen her do, she feels justified by doing it. She never took it back or said sorry, because she isn't. Also she compares me to Hitler and the Gestapo. According to her, I'm a hateful bitch, selfish, heartless, and more. She hates me, she's said that here. Do you know she does all that here? She wouldn't get away with on QOL. She runs here to bitch about me as she did yesterday. She's done more than her fair share, for no good reason. Thing is, SweetCaroline isn't so innocent. The levels she's sank to about me, is ugly, it's horrible. I'm sure SweetCaroline band her fellow cronie snifflese will come along to try to get you on their side any time now. I say SweetCaroline is obsessed about a singer, and she thinks what she has said and spread about me is justified. It's not. When she had a go at me for what she thought about my mental health when my father was weeks away from dying, that a.one said to me what a despicable person she can be where I'm concerned . All done for no good reason. She gets a kick of it all. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 02:13 |
rockchic65 wrote:It matters when she spams. She used to do it on QOL until she was banned from there. You ask the people who run QOL why does it matter? SweetCaroline has a go at me for my long posts, hell at least I can think for myself unlike her. Let's excuse her spamming the AL fans here say, you who defend it, are pretty much telling her it's ok to spam.MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.And to quote TRW why does it matter? What real difference does it make if she posts links and tweets or whatever, I don't click on the majority I just scroll past, it's far easier to scroll past the links than the huge posts of personal arguments reiterating the same rubbish over and over page after page. |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 02:16 |
rockchic65 wrote:Look at my reply to The Real Wizard before your reply to me. I’m not going to repeat myself until I want to.MisterCosmicc wrote: Or maybe if SweetCaroline wouldn’t be on every topic posting irrelevant links and tweets that aren’t even in reference to the subject, like on this thread. She’s not a contributor, she’s a spammer.And to quote TRW why does it matter? What real difference does it make if she posts links and tweets or whatever, I don't click on the majority I just scroll past, it's far easier to scroll past the links than the huge posts of personal arguments reiterating the same rubbish over and over page after page. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 02:19 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I think SweetCaroline and snifflese have more than a vendetta about me these days. They want revenge full stop , and for everyone to go after me, check out the Breaking News thread that SweetCaroline started and their posts in there. It's not enough for two of them to go me, they wa t others to go after me, they lie, twist things, shit stir, all the while trying to protray themselves as innocent.Iron Butterfly wrote:I know... whenever someone other than you criticizes them, they reply but usually create a paragraph or two directed at you.MisterCosmicc wrote:You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.Iron Butterfly wrote:Right? Or defending Adam. She claims most Queen fans wouldn’t remember Freddie’s birthday or the anniversary of his death, and always defends Adam for not mentioning it. Claims not to care, yet makes a big post on how Adam will be remembered for his touring. She claims to be a Queen fan froM long ago, but she wasn’t. She heard the songs on the radio and that’s about it. She’s more into Adam Lambert, but like a typical Adam Worshippers, can’t admit it. Doesn’t read into Queen? Can’t remember the dates? She’s probably on the net all day, she’s just obsessed with Adam which is the only reason she’s on here. That’s why she goes into those rants explaining how “I don’t care! No me cares!”... when she writes that, it’s always after someone replies to a post of hers about her praise of Adam. Me: Adam won’t be remembered much Sniffles: Yes he will Me: No Snifflese: Oh who cares, Queen isn’t in schools (lies...) Enjoy your Adam solo streams!MisterCosmicc wrote:Reading, defending SweetCaroline, shit stirring, see above a part of her post and fighting with me is what she does on QZ ;-). She has time for all of that, but can't post outside of here cause she might get criticism by Queen fans. Oh woe!snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.I’m sure you get your QAL reading in daily. They have big issues. |
snifflese 18.02.2020 02:21 |
Cosmic, why do you call everything a lie that you don't agree with? My kids went through years of music training both in school and privately and Queen never was an assigned song nor something they played in school. I am sick and tired of the word liar being thrown around. How do you know what my kid's musical training involved? You have some nerve to always speak for someone else and call them liars. We moved around all over the country and I was involved in schools in various parts of the US and overseas and in the schools I had involvement in, Freddie didn't come up. Musical education in the school system is much more the old composers, jazz and typical band music. One of my kids studied the piano for years and the songs were never contemporary. Based on my experience Queen would not necessarily be mentioned in a class or in a typical piano, flute or other private class. Should I call you a liar because you maybe had a different experience or maybe you are just making that up? I don't care about a legacy or any of that, but this subsection of Queen's history will be written down somewhere as it did happen and for quite a period of time. You sound like the Communists rewriting history and pretending it didn't happen. I don't understand why you won't let people enjoy what they want to. How does it affect you when someone here says they liked a concert and enjoyed seeing the Rhapsody tour? That should be no skin off your nose as it has nothing to do with you. If people never saw Queen with Freddie and only saw QAL that is the only thing they have a real connection to. There are new fans who don't have much knowledge of Queen and QAL is what they relate to if they go and see a show and they are younger To me that is a new era of fans and bands don't stay popular unless they gain new fans over time. Brian and Roger are thrilled that they have old Queen fans and new young fans enjoying their music, best of both worlds and rational people would understand that. People enjoying QAL and hearing Queen's music at a concert now doesn't take anything away from Freddie that I can see. It adds to his and Queen's legacy that they can still relate to this more modern world and people are loving their music 30-40 plus years later. It is a win/win as far as I see it and certainly not anything negative. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 02:22 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: It’s annoying, and hard to ignore.#firstworldproblems Hate to break it to you, but lots of things are annoying. Just ignore it, and live your life. It's just an internet forum. Either these are people you've never met in real life and shouldn't care one iota about, or if you have met them, then you should sort out your squabbles in real life or at least somewhere that isn't a public forum. Such interpersonal nonsense should have no place here. It's literally insane that this thread is already six pages long, almost entirely filled with mudslinging amongst the same half dozen people. Everyone involved would have been banned from any other forum ages ago. I love your website, by the way. I’m on it all the time, I just never got to let you know.Thanks - much appreciated. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 02:23 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at my reply to The Real Wizard before your reply to me. I’m not going to repeat myself until I want to.I already had, still don't see the problem. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 02:49 |
rockchic65 wrote:I'm not surprised you say that. :/MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at my reply to The Real Wizard before your reply to me. I’m not going to repeat myself until I want to.I already had, still don't see the problem. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 03:04 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I have posted multiple times against Gerry and runner.Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitome of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.Why are offended by SC but not by the constant torrent of hate and slander from runner_70 ? However no one takes runner or Gerry seriously, as they are just total buffoons that have become ridiculous comic caricatures of themselves. SC is a two faced glambert wacko that cannot express or discuss a rational thought of her own, but can only post empty tweets and empty links. She is basically an Adam stepford who believes everything Adam does is wonderful and stupendously perfect. Also, SC has issued plenty of slander toward Icy. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 03:06 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:^ THISIron Butterfly wrote: You got it ;-). I swear she and SweetCaroline gets sick, twisted kicks by what they do. I've seen their ugly sides and it's not pretty. Those two want every one they come across to take their sides and to go after me. Why? To them, I'm the worst of the worst.I know... whenever someone other than you criticizes them, they reply but usually create a paragraph or two directed at you. |
The Real Wizard 18.02.2020 03:10 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Fair play then, I guess.The Real Wizard wrote:I have posted multiple times against Gerry and runner. However no one takes runner or Gerry seriously, as are just total buffoons that have become ridiculous comic caricatures of themselves. SC is a two faced glambert wacko that cannot express or discuss a rational thought of her own, but can only post empty tweets and empty links. She is basically an Adam stepford who believes everything Adam does is wonderful and stupendously perfect. Also, SC has issued plenty of slander toward Icy.Saint Jiub wrote: SC posts 5 spam links in 5 topics within a 61 minute span. This is downright spamming and against Richard's guidelines for this site. Specifically, SC's spam is contrary to Guideline #1 and #3, and the epitome of being a bad guest on this forum. In other word, SC - Fuck off you cunt bubble.Why are offended by SC but not by the constant torrent of hate and slander from runner_70 ? This forum needs a full lobotomy. 2/3 of it is a cesspool of waste. But it's never going to happen. Someone needs to start a new Queen forum that is reasonably moderated, and let this one die a natural death. |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 04:05 |
My “slander” to icy is in RESPONSE to HER crap! Don’t be fooled by her whining about being a victim! She has always been nasty and negative but won’t admit it. And before she or anyone else adds another 6 pages here, I don’t give “TWO FUX” !!!!! |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 04:30 |
SweetCaroline wrote: My “slander” to icy is in RESPONSE to HER crap! Don’t be fooled by her whining about being a victim! She has always been nasty and negative but won’t admit it. And before she or anyone else adds another 6 pages here, I don’t give “TWO FUX” !!!!!You lied. For years. You still lie. Not only that, it's obvious that you want everyone you come across to turn against me. That's what you do, because you want revenge. If you didn't give TwoFux, you would not have ran here, from QOL countess times to bitch about me. You did that as recently as yesterday, you didn't dare reply to me over there in such a way. Spinning your tales and shit stirring. You come here to spam about AL, because you thought it's fun. That's a new one, did you do the same on QOL for years thinking it's fun. You crossed a line with me when you knew my father was dying. You may think I'm awful, but you prove how awful you are when you did have a go at me when you knew he was dying , when you say you hate me and have no empathy for me. It's you who is hateful and despicable, not me. You probably are the most bitter person I've ever encountered on the internet, and that's saying something. I knew you would come along here to try to get others on your side, and here you are, because you are gutless, you can't even fight in your own corner. You are gutless because you have lied about me for years, and have tried to paint me as terrible. I pity the people who are fooled by your shit. I pity you for wanting to lie, and spreading your lies. Not good enough, you have said all sorts about me, including when my father was on his deathbed, you still wanted to have a go at me. My father who was dying had more compassion, empathy and guts than you ever could. The nerve of you always saying your shit about me, you fed it to snifflese, and you try to feed it to others. You can't even take any responsibility for what you have done. Not once have I heard you give an apology to me, or all the Queen fans you bitched about here when you said Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die the day Freddie died. Make sure you tell The Real Wizard how you really feel about Queen fans. You hate us, it's not just me. You are one sick person to do what you do. Absolutely there is no doubt you want revenge directed my way at this point, and you are big mad because two of the people here can see right through you here. You sure have the ones to defend you, again not good enough, you want everyone to believe your shit and to take your side. Exactly what you are doing here. I find it hard to believe you are older than I am. I've known preteens who behave better than you do. Seriously, my niece behaves better than you, and she's 10. She has better manners than you do. You have more than slandered me. You have crossed boundries too many times about me. When you had a go at me when my father was dying that proved you would not stop at anything. And you haven't. And you won't. What the hell are you after, SweetCaroline and why? Blood to be spilled? You are the prime example of a sparkle cow. A prime example of a bitter, butthurt, bitch. Shame on you SweetCaroline, big shame on you. You have done more harm than good, not that you can even see that much. You are the one playing the victim, and you do a shitty job of it. I think you have lost your damn mind. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 04:43 |
So the singer lost to the entertainer ... LOL How Adam Lambert Lost American Idol For Himself link But bolstered by Kris Allen’s rise to the forefront of the season by simply performing good songs well just a little better than he had before, the finale for Idol turned out about as perfect as we could hope. The truth is that while good, Adam Lambert never got any better. He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example). The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week. As the final weeks rolled along it was Kris Allen who grew as a performer more than anyone. And so Kris started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality. This is an entertainer competition. Kris Allen gave people a reason to stand behind him and pull off an upset that wasn’t really an upset at all. It was simply inevitable. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 04:55 |
Snifflese, go look on QOL and the spam posts that is there right now about vaping. That's the kind of spam I was talking about. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 04:56 |
Saint Jiub wrote: So the singer lost to the entertainer ... LOL How Adam Lambert Lost American Idol For Himself link But bolstered by Kris Allen’s rise to the forefront of the season by simply performing good songs well just a little better than he had before, the finale for Idol turned out about as perfect as we could hope. The truth is that while good, Adam Lambert never got any better. He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example). The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week. As the final weeks rolled along it was Kris Allen who grew as a performer more than anyone. And so Kris started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality. This is an entertainer competition. Kris Allen gave people a reason to stand behind him and pull off an upset that wasn’t really an upset at all. It was simply inevitable.Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-) |
snifflese 18.02.2020 05:09 |
There are always opinions and at the end of the day, we can see where Adam is and where Kris is not. I don't think one single article from right after the finale in 2009 means much. After all, Kris did win. My opinion is that Adam lost it because he was gay. Any time Bill O"Reilly shows him and another guy on National TV back then, he was toast. I wasn't at all surprised how it turned out. Idol was pretty milk toast back then and Kris was the all American boy. But the important thing is where they are now and it goes to show that the better singer doesn't always win. Look at J Hudson. She got kicked off way early and she has had an amazing career. At the end of the day it didn't matter. Adam established a connection with Brian and Roger on the finale and look at where they are now. |
runner_70 18.02.2020 05:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 05:39 |
snifflese wrote: There are always opinions and at the end of the day, we can see where Adam is and where Kris is not. I don't think one single article from right after the finale in 2009 means much. After all, Kris did win. My opinion is that Adam lost it because he was gay. Any time Bill O"Reilly shows him and another guy on National TV back then, he was toast. I wasn't at all surprised how it turned out. Idol was pretty milk toast back then and Kris was the all American boy. But the important thing is where they are now and it goes to show that the better singer doesn't always win. Look at J Hudson. She got kicked off way early and she has had an amazing career. At the end of the day it didn't matter. Adam established a connection with Brian and Roger on the finale and look at where they are now.Thing is, AL would not be where is without Queen and Brian and Roger. He'd be nowhere near it. That's the truth. Oh, AL didn't win because he is gay is your opinion. Excuses, excuses. Why do so many Glamberts hang on to that? Cause their guy didn't win? I've read so many excuses by so many Glamberts have shared these last few years what they think happened, everything from homophobia to wrong single choices for how things have happened, or didn't happen. Sorry, it comes across as things are not based on fact. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 06:28 |
snifflese wrote: There are always opinions and at the end of the day, we can see where Adam is and where Kris is not. I don't think one single article from right after the finale in 2009 means much. After all, Kris did win. My opinion is that Adam lost it because he was gay. Any time Bill O"Reilly shows him and another guy on National TV back then, he was toast. I wasn't at all surprised how it turned out. Idol was pretty milk toast back then and Kris was the all American boy. But the important thing is where they are now and it goes to show that the better singer doesn't always win. Look at J Hudson. She got kicked off way early and she has had an amazing career. At the end of the day it didn't matter. Adam established a connection with Brian and Roger on the finale and look at where they are now.You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won. |
Star* 18.02.2020 07:40 |
@Sniffy Just because Adam was chosen by Brian does not make him the better singer. He got lucky while Brian was in a bad place and bad choices by a desperate man wanting to be on the road again with his pretend Queen band minus two vital band members. Look at Lewis Capaldi he is absolutely crap yet bigger than Adam Lambert my miles here in the UK. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 08:14 |
Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer? And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version. And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact, Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 08:15 |
The Real Wizard wrote: This forum needs a full lobotomy. 2/3 of it is a cesspool of waste. But it's never going to happen. Someone needs to start a new Queen forum that is reasonably moderated, and let this one die a natural death.This, spot on. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 08:21 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)You really think one article from 2009 which is just one opinion matters now? |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 08:25 |
rockchic65 wrote:It's a better and more interesting read than the conspiracy that homophobia is the "reason" why he didn't win. Why not read and post a different view?Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)You really think one article from 2009 which is just one opinion matters now? |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 08:54 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:I've said my opinion on why he didn't win previously but here goes. Kris was an all American christian who'd done missionary work and sung regularly in church and Danny Gokey (who came 3rd) was also a very strong christian who sung in church. It's well known that voters transfer to other contestants once their favourite is voted off so it's not a leap to assume a lot of Danny's voters transferred their votes to Kris in the final when Danny was voted off the week before, they had a lot in common and strong christian voters were far more likely to vote for Kris than Adam.rockchic65 wrote:It's a better and more interesting read than the conspiracy that homophobia is the "reason" why he didn't win. Why not read and post a different view?Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh, some people here aren't gonna be happy when they read that. ;-)You really think one article from 2009 which is just one opinion matters now? Plus there's always the fact that people don't vote for who's technically the best singer or has the widest range they vote for who they connect to and Kris seemed a genuinely nice guy and had a nice voice, played guitar and did some good versions of covers especially later in the show. Adam was being "marketed" by the show on a subtle level as a done deal for winning it and people often vote for the underdog which seemed to be how they "marketed" Kris. I personally don't think it matters one bit who technically wins a show like that, once you reach the final you've won anyway, you're guaranteed a record deal, you've been seen by millions of people every week and then it's down to what you do after to keep the momentum going. |
Star* 18.02.2020 11:16 |
Adam never won because Americans are still homophobic and Adam makes its worse dressing like he does in his freaky gear. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 11:47 |
snifflese wrote: But who really cares at the end of the day? I don't give a crap who is singing Queen music as long as I enjoy the music and I think they are doing a good job. I could care less what a music teacher does in class. Coming from a mother whose kids were in music class and band and had private lessons, Freddie and Queen were not mentioned either. Do you have to be famous to record music to make it good? No one but Freddie singing it can be it enjoyable for others? I don't happen to believe that and I don't worry about legacies and who is talking about whom. I like Adam, I like Queen and I enjoy them together. Icy, the word was "big up" not your fav. S word. I do notice you are not spreading that lovely phrase around on QOL!! Several people took you to task over there yesterday and you are not allowed to answer folks there like you do here. Good thing really!! I ALSO noticed you were already bugging the mods about spammers over there. Back to your own "shit stirring"! Amazing what you criticize and then do the same thing yourself. Wow, that is a true hypocrite! Read a little more carefully!! I have no time to read up about Freddie and Queen and could care less about it. I love Iron Maiden, listen to them a lot, but am not going to go back and read which singer they had at which point in their history. I don't care!. I saw them with Dickinson and love them and that is more than enough for me. There is enough important real history like things going on the US that require reading about and Queen and Iron Maiden, my two fav groups, just doesn't reach that level for me. There is way more important stuff in this world than that.Hey, snifflese about your second paragraph, rather your spewing and spreading your shit ..you might want to read over there again what was posted not long ago . Read carefully., very carefully and take it in what was said...but I doubt you will because that would prove you wrong, and you can't have that can you? Want to spread more of your fkd up shit? |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 11:48 |
Lambert never won Idol, because more people voted more for Kris Allen. It really is that simple. |
snifflese 18.02.2020 14:08 |
At this point in time, who cares? To me the result is in the pudding and 11 years later the outcome favored the most talented which was Adam. Kris was a very nice homegrown kind of guy and he sang well, but obviously not a star. I agree with RC's assessment of the situation and I believe there was more than a bit of homophobia. Solid conservative people seeing Adam kissing his BF on his Fox show did not do him any favors at all. Nowadays it wouldn't raise any eyebrows, but back then it was quite a surprise. It is amazing the strides that have been made for gay people in a little over 10 years, which is a very good thing! |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 15:36 |
Hmmm, has Kris ever performed in Vegas? Or Japan? Or Australia? Or London? Or Paris? Or Finland? Or Moscow? Or Chins? |
Star* 18.02.2020 15:45 |
Lambert would not have ever toured the world's stadiums if Brian had not picked him . I ma sure there are many young kids out there who can be even better on stage then Lambo By the way he is putting the pork on now and getting chubby that's how drag queen's go i guess lol |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 15:46 |
And, by the way, those are the places where Adam has performed as a solo artist and not just with QAL. Who is Lewis Capaldi? Is that someone I should know? |
Star* 18.02.2020 15:48 |
Yes Lewis is just like Adam he shouts and thinks he can sing. He is a scottish dude and talentless at that! |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 15:50 |
Adam doesn’t shout! |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 16:01 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Hmmm, has Kris ever performed in Vegas? Or Japan? Or Australia? Or London? Or Paris? Or Finland? Or Moscow? Or Chins?Irrelevant |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 16:19 |
Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!! |
MisterCosmicc 18.02.2020 16:32 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker. |
SweetCaroline 18.02.2020 17:21 |
I don’t know if Kris even performs anymore. He has left L.A. and gone back home to Arkansas. He is a nice family man with at least 2, maybe 3 children. What is memorable is that he and Adam became really good friends on Idol and were both rooting for each other in the finale. |
Vocal harmony 18.02.2020 18:22 |
runner_70 wrote:Proof that you know nothing. Ian Paice is the only member of the original lineup still in Deep Purple.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music Who's the clueless clown now. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 20:40 |
snifflese wrote: At this point in time, who cares? To me the result is in the pudding and 11 years later the outcome favored the most talented which was Adam. Kris was a very nice homegrown kind of guy and he sang well, but obviously not a star. I agree with RC's assessment of the situation and I believe there was more than a bit of homophobia. Solid conservative people seeing Adam kissing his BF on his Fox show did not do him any favors at all. Nowadays it wouldn't raise any eyebrows, but back then it was quite a surprise. It is amazing the strides that have been made for gay people in a little over 10 years, which is a very good thing!If people wouldn't care, they wouldn't come up with excuses and use homophobic as a "reason why" he didn't win At least rockchic put a new slanthread on things, some of which I never read before. I don't remember AL ever kissing his boyfriend on the Fox show? Thanks for not noticing my post above, I guess a retraction that you got it wrong would be too much for you do. Stop running here stirring the shit and spreading the shit what you think happens on QOL. You were wrong, even with the fact you won't admit to it. Next time have to guts to do it over there at least. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 20:42 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!AL wasn't a rock star at that point. He isn't one at this point. |
snifflese 18.02.2020 20:52 |
There was a picture of Adam kissing a boyfriend which Bill O"Reilly chose to share on his 8:00 News Show. It made quite a stir and was in other media for quite a while. I think that since Danny and Kris were Christian conservatives their block stayed together to vote for Kris once Danny was out, especially after Adam had been outed. And of course, Bill shared a few thoughts, not really helpful to Adam. This had a huge effect IMO. I know you don't believe in homophobia concerning Adam, but people weren'tas blase about it as they are now. Adam shared a few thoughts recently on how homophobia affected his career. He is a pretty honest guy and if he felt that way, I am pretty sure it was that way. I could see the homophobia myself. And it is not an excuse. What he did on AMA just about ruined him and that was due to homophobia, so there were several instances and none of them affected his career positively. link |
runner_70 18.02.2020 21:25 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who ave clearly lost the plotSweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker. |
Nathan H 18.02.2020 21:27 |
runner_70 wrote:Like yourselfMisterCosmicc wrote:Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who ave clearly lost the plotSweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker. |
runner_70 18.02.2020 21:28 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is doing cheesy Dance music solo has no history as a rock musician and simply has no voice to sing rock songs. He is a high pitched screamer doing covers |
runner_70 18.02.2020 21:29 |
Young Music Fan wrote:I m not singing with two old pensioners and am no casting vicitimrunner_70 wrote:Like yourselfMisterCosmicc wrote:Both irrelevant casting victims. One is now singing with two pensioners who have clearly lost the plotSweetCaroline wrote: Both Adam and Kris sang WATC with Brian and Roger on the Idol finale but it is not Kris who is touring with them. Kris is a nice Christian country singer, but for Queen music they needed the rock star!!!!!Who cares about Kris, I don’t even know who the Hell he is, it’s irrelevant. Adam’s not a rocker. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 21:44 |
runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. |
Iron Butterfly 18.02.2020 21:57 |
snifflese wrote: There was a picture of Adam kissing a boyfriend which Bill O"Reilly chose to share on his 8:00 News Show. It made quite a stir and was in other media for quite a while. I think that since Danny and Kris were Christian conservatives their block stayed together to vote for Kris once Danny was out, especially after Adam had been outed. And of course, Bill shared a few thoughts, not really helpful to Adam. This had a huge effect IMO. I know you don't believe in homophobia concerning Adam, but people weren'tas blase about it as they are now. Adam shared a few thoughts recently on how homophobia affected his career. He is a pretty honest guy and if he felt that way, I am pretty sure it was that way. I could see the homophobia myself. And it is not an excuse. What he did on AMA just about ruined him and that was due to homophobia, so there were several instances and none of them affected his career positively. linkLOL. Looks like some AL fans had conspiracies right from the start and they still hang on to it. He didn't win because more people voted for Kris Allen. Why does it have to a conspiracy about homophobia? I think too many Glamberts use thst as an excuse. Even after all this time. It's very telling that you will not or can not admit you were wrong about me and QOL. You fkd up big time. Next time try thinking before you spew and spread your shit. |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 22:40 |
My comments are embedded in your reply to attempt to make this more readable.
I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)
rockchic65 wrote:Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer? I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON. And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version. I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC. And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact, OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." "He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)." ....... Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition. THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND "started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality." |
Saint Jiub 18.02.2020 22:58 |
rockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted:runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers. |
rockchic65 18.02.2020 23:42 |
Saint Jiub wrote: My comments are embedded in your reply to attempt to make this more readable. I see that you conceded that Adam is a polarizing artist, so perhaps there may be more people beyond a few vocal QZ-ers that dislike Adam :)Sorry I misunderstood the first comment. I don't think Kris was a better performer personally but singing style and performance are subjective so he clearly was to some people.rockchic65 wrote:Saint Jiub wrote: You are correct. The better singer did not win. The best entertainer won.You seriously think Kris was technically the better singer? I SAID THAT THAT THE BETTER SINGER DID not WIN, BUT I SAID THE BETTER ENTERTAINER WON. And why are you pulling up an article from 2009? Bored and want to start another shit fest post is my guess, can't think of any other reason, well only one but that's even sadder than this version. I PULLED UP THIS ARTICLE IN REACTION TO SC SAYING SHE DID NOT GIVE TWO FUX IN EFFORT TO SHUT DOWN THIS TOPIC. And you do realize that for every post like that there was an opposite one, this was an opinion by the writer of the article and in no way an actual fact, OF COURSE i REALIZE THAT. HOWEVER, THE ARTICLE DID ADD OPINIONS THAT MATCH SOME QUEEN FANS: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." "He never gave the audience a reason to care for him. Girls crying because you are so super duper awesome is no indication of a winner (see Clay Aiken for a prime example)." ....... Adam was and is a polarizing artist, there were always gonna be people who didn't like what he did but end of the day he made the final despite what that article claims so if it were true he'd have lost support long before the very end of the competition. THE ARTICLE STATED ADAM'S PERFORMANCE STAYED ON A PLATEAU, WHILE CHRIS IMPROVED AND "started to win over the audience with his charming smile, clean cut good looks and growing performance personality." I wouldn't say Adam's performance stayed on a plateau either really but he did start off strong so didn't have as much space to "grow" as some other contestants. On those shows I suppose the audience likes to see someone a bit raw with not much stage persona and watch them get better as the weeks progress, there wasn't much of that with Adam since he was so used to performing already. |
rockchic65 19.02.2020 00:03 |
Saint Jiub wrote:Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes.rockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes. |
Iron Butterfly 19.02.2020 00:47 |
When AL hits the high notes, I'm no longer impressed by it. Rock songs, ballads, it more often than not it comes across as he is showing off than having any real emotion, IMO. |
SweetCaroline 19.02.2020 00:49 |
On the current QAL tour so far Adam has not faltered in his vocal performance even while performing in extreme heat and humidity as well as the non-stop torrential downpour in Brisbane! |
Saint Jiub 19.02.2020 01:54 |
SweetCaroline wrote: On the current QAL tour so far Adam has not faltered in his vocal performance even while performing in extreme heat and humidity as well as the non-stop torrential downpour in Brisbane!So he is consistent. Some would say consistently annoying with his squealing of long notes and his excessive vibrato, That does not make him an excellent entertainer. |
Iron Butterfly 19.02.2020 01:58 |
SweetCaroline wrote: On the current QAL tour so far Adam has not faltered in his vocal performance even while performing in extreme heat and humidity as well as the non-stop torrential downpour in Brisbane!The God you think is Lambert...he is only in your dreams. |
MisterCosmicc 19.02.2020 04:55 |
No wonder the Bohemian Rhapsody film flopped, everyone knows Freddie is gay. |
Iron Butterfly 19.02.2020 05:04 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: No wonder the Bohemian Rhapsody film flopped, everyone knows Freddie is gay.Funny you should say that. Someone who posts here said Queen fans were in denial about Freddie’s sexuality because of the Bohemian Rhapsody movie poster, it was literally tweeted out. The same one who cries and gnash's her teeth, erm dentures about homophobia being the excuse Lambert didn't win Idol, the excuse that isn't as popular as other artists. The next time SweetCaroline wants to accuse of me of laying shit around, she should take a long hard look at herself. SweetCaroline has an excuse for anything. I wonder what her excuse will be this time when ALs music likely flops. She will probably blame Queen fans. |
The Real Wizard 19.02.2020 06:20 |
runner_70 wrote:Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true. |
Vocal harmony 19.02.2020 13:19 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Good luck with this post Mr Wizard. I posted the same thing twenty posts back on the previous page, got no reply to that because he obviously runs from pure facts especially if they prove him wrong. ;)runner_70 wrote:Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music |
runner_70 19.02.2020 16:43 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: No wonder the Bohemian Rhapsody film flopped, everyone knows Freddie is gay.Good one |
runner_70 19.02.2020 16:45 |
The Real Wizard wrote:You didnt even know that They were not on the forst album if I did not tell you you twat. I doubt you even own a single Purple album.runner_70 wrote:Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music And as far as seeing bands goes: Thats Like saying seeing Judas Priest now is not with their original singer - true but the classic lineup is what people are looking for not some nobodys that were in the band for 5 minutes. Idiot |
Star* 19.02.2020 17:58 |
Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic! |
Star* 19.02.2020 17:59 |
Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic! |
MisterCosmicc 19.02.2020 18:59 |
rockchic65 wrote:Your comparisons are weak. They have well more rock vocal techniques than Adam. They have grit.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. |
MisterCosmicc 19.02.2020 19:00 |
Saint Jiub wrote:^ thisrockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. |
MisterCosmicc 19.02.2020 19:01 |
rockchic65 wrote:Post one Adam “rock style scream” pleaseSaint Jiub wrote:Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.rockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. |
MisterCosmicc 19.02.2020 19:04 |
rockchic65 wrote:Fans of Adam, or fans of Queen? Queen have huge concerts, but Adam’s music doesn’t sell. “A lot” should be taken with a grain of salt.Saint Jiub wrote:Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.rockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. Most people go to QAL concerts to see Brian and Roger. |
rockchic65 19.02.2020 20:54 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I said lots of fans obviously meaning Adam's fans since I was referencing fans from Idol and one's who became fans of his afterwards. There are plenty of his fans at the QAL shows but we know he doesn't have that many in comparison to Queen but there are more fans at every QAL show who then comment about him and his voice afterwards, most of the comments favourable. Obviously there's some who don't like the way he sings, like I said he can't please everyone. Adam has plenty of fans worldwide but not in the amount some artists have, I've never said any different, but of HIS fans there are lots who like the high screams.rockchic65 wrote:Fans of Adam, or fans of Queen? Queen have huge concerts, but Adam’s music doesn’t sell. “A lot” should be taken with a grain of salt. Most people go to QAL concerts to see Brian and Roger.Saint Jiub wrote:Don't know about sustained but they could both squeal out the high notes. Judging by the amount of rock and metal screams compilation vids on YT it's pretty prevalent in rock and metal to scream sustained high notes. Adam mixes rock style screams with a more operatic style of high notes or trills as you say, some like it some don't and for all the ones who got tired of it there were a lot that didn't and a lot of his fans like him doing those notes plus when he doesn't people start saying "he's lost range or can't hit the notes anymore", seems he can't please everyone if he does them leaves them out, gaining a fan base on that show by doing a lot of that type thing means he's kind of set himself up to sort of have to do that some of the time to please those fans who love the sustained notes.rockchic65 wrote:As stated in the link I posted: "The squealing long notes got tired after the fifth week." Are Robert Plant and Axl Rose known for squealing SUSTAINED notes? In my opinion, Adam's overly frequent use of warbling vibrato trills are not typical of rock singers.runner_70 wrote: WHy is Lameturd a rock star???? He is a high pitched screamerSo you've not heard all the high pitched screamers who are rock stars I take it? Axl Rose, Seb Bach, Miljenko Matijevic, Bruce Dickinson, Robert Plant - I could go on, the point is there are plenty of rock singers who scream with a high pitch. If you're gonna argue he's not a rockstar or singing rock high pitched screams are not the argument to use. |
snifflese 19.02.2020 23:03 |
Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can. |
runner_70 19.02.2020 23:18 |
snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice |
rockchic65 19.02.2020 23:38 |
runner_70 wrote:Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list.snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably. |
Vocal harmony 20.02.2020 13:56 |
runner_70 wrote:I'm sure he did know that, it's not exactly a secret. On the other hand you probably got the infomation from my earlier post.The Real Wizard wrote:You didnt even know that They were not on the forst album if I did not tell you you twat. I doubt you even own a single Purple album. And as far as seeing bands goes: Thats Like saying seeing Judas Priest now is not with their original singer - true but the classic lineup is what people are looking for not some nobodys that were in the band for 5 minutes. Idiotrunner_70 wrote:Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music You mentioned Judus Priest, not sure I quite understand why. There first album was recorded with Rob Halford. The previous singer had left before the first album was recorded, so to most of the world Halford is viewed as original, but that's not the only lineup change they went through, and continue to go through. Where do you draw the line on a classic line up. World wide there most successful period was mid 80's but that lineup changed by the early 90's. Can't wait for your next insult as that's the only consistent thing in your posts. |
Vocal harmony 20.02.2020 14:16 |
ST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!True to an extent, but I wouldn't say there is "no magic". Where do you think Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Journey and Fleetwood Mac fit into that argument. All replaced members to become what are largely viewed as the definitive lineups and some had had considerable success before the lineup changes. |
AngelR 20.02.2020 14:46 |
double post |
Star* 20.02.2020 17:07 |
Queen is such an exception to the rules of band members getting replaced because Freddie was such a massive input for Queen and the band revolved around his characters on stage, the ambience was just Mercury drenched and without Freddie Queen are running on empty even though they continue to "sell out" the fans are loyal but they are missing the magic and ambience of king Mercury and the lovely John Deacon. |
runner_70 20.02.2020 17:12 |
rockchic65 wrote:What you call "strain" is a rock voice with power not a powerless girls voice like Lamebirdsrunner_70 wrote:Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice |
runner_70 20.02.2020 17:13 |
Vocal harmony wrote:To sum up your stupid drivel you think JP is original only with Al Atkins. Ok then....runner_70 wrote:I'm sure he did know that, it's not exactly a secret. On the other hand you probably got the infomation from my earlier post. You mentioned Judus Priest, not sure I quite understand why. There first album was recorded with Rob Halford. The previous singer had left before the first album was recorded, so to most of the world Halford is viewed as original, but that's not the only lineup change they went through, and continue to go through. Where do you draw the line on a classic line up. World wide there most successful period was mid 80's but that lineup changed by the early 90's. Can't wait for your next insult as that's the only consistent thing in your posts.The Real Wizard wrote:You didnt even know that They were not on the forst album if I did not tell you you twat. I doubt you even own a single Purple album. And as far as seeing bands goes: Thats Like saying seeing Judas Priest now is not with their original singer - true but the classic lineup is what people are looking for not some nobodys that were in the band for 5 minutes. Idiotrunner_70 wrote:Indeed, Gillan and Glover did not appear on the first Deep Purple album because they were not in the band yet, which makes me correct and you incorrect, full stop. Suggesting that I know nothing about rock music because I possess the basic ability to read liner notes makes absolutely no sense. People who joined the band after the first album are not original members. But I guess in your internet trolling universe where you make up the facts as you please, anything can be true.The Real Wizard wrote: If people don't like the idea of seeing Deep Purple with one original member, then don't go.Deep Purple have Gillan Paice and Glover you stupid clueless Clown. I am sure you will return with "that Gillan was not on the first album". Again another proof you have no clue when it comes to rock music |
runner_70 20.02.2020 17:14 |
Vocal harmony wrote:So you think QAL is the definitive Queen line up. Ok then. ClownST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!True to an extent, but I wouldn't say there is "no magic". Where do you think Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Journey and Fleetwood Mac fit into that argument. All replaced members to become what are largely viewed as the definitive lineups and some had had considerable success before the lineup changes. |
MisterCosmicc 21.02.2020 01:33 |
snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it. |
MisterCosmicc 21.02.2020 01:37 |
rockchic65 wrote:Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?runner_70 wrote:Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice |
Iron Butterfly 21.02.2020 02:08 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it. |
Iron Butterfly 21.02.2020 02:08 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it. |
MisterCosmicc 21.02.2020 04:17 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:I'd never reply to them again if their kids made a video praising Adam as they claim they do, but we both know that'll never happen.MisterCosmicc wrote:Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it. |
Iron Butterfly 21.02.2020 04:35 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I don't even think there are kids, pretty grown from what SweetCaroline and snifflese have said. That's even worse if they were young kids.Iron Butterfly wrote:I'd never reply to them again if their kids made a video praising Adam as they claim they do, but we both know that'll never happen.MisterCosmicc wrote:Yea, it's a weak way to discuss things. Might as well get them to post here *sarcasm*.snifflese wrote: Both of my boys love metal music and the Nordic metal music in particular with lots of high notes and screams (which Adam really doesn't do - he holds notes out very melodiously) and they both think Adam could more than hold his own singing that kind of music. They had extensive music training and were in bands and know music. There are many kinds of rock and metal and different kinds of voices for each. I love that kind of metal myself and that might be one of the reasons I appreciate Adam. I also love classical and opera and Adam's voice ticks that box also. Many of Queen's songs have a classical operatic style to them and those are some of my favorites for Adam to sing. SCC and songs like that are not what he does best, but he still does a more than credible job. It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.You and SweetCaroline love using your children as talking pieces... I don’t buy it. |
snifflese 21.02.2020 04:58 |
Listen you two idiots, my kids are in their late 30's. What is wrong with you two? You and Cosmic's head are so full of shit (you fav word) that you can't see anything beyond your own limited views. You just assume everyone is lying, everyone is full of it, everyone is like the two of you and most people, thank goodness, are not. I take people at their word, as I am one of those who assumes most people are nice and if you treat them that way, they are nice to you. And you wonder, Icy, why I have a certain view of die hard Queen fans? Well, you two reinforce my negative impression daily. It is useless to try to post anything here as you ridicule other posters constantly and call them out and by the way, Icy, if you have to insert "sarcasm" the statement was pretty lame, which is most of what comes out of your mouth. Have fun taking each other down, since there will be no other people left here, which I am sure was your plan all along. All you like minded die hard Queen fans can have fun ripping each other apart when you have no Adam fans to terrorize. |
Iron Butterfly 21.02.2020 05:20 |
snifflese wrote: Listen you two idiots, my kids are in their late 30's. What is wrong with you two? You and Cosmic's head are so full of shit (you fav word) that you can't see anything beyond your own limited views. You just assume everyone is lying, everyone is full of it, everyone is like the two of you and most people, thank goodness, are not. I take people at their word, as I am one of those who assumes most people are nice and if you treat them that way, they are nice to you. And you wonder, Icy, why I have a certain view of die hard Queen fans? Well, you two reinforce my negative impression daily. It is useless to try to post anything here as you ridicule other posters constantly and call them out and by the way, Icy, if you have to insert "sarcasm" the statement was pretty lame, which is most of what comes out of your mouth. Have fun taking each other down, since there will be no other people left here, which I am sure was your plan all along. All you like minded die hard Queen fans can have fun ripping each other apart when you have no Adam fans to terrorize.Rant and bitch, nothing new from you. Wipe the snot and shit from your orifices, it's oozing from you. |
rockchic65 21.02.2020 06:14 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:On recordings he sounded brilliant, no question that his unique tone, style of singing (which was different than live) and ability to change his style of singing in different songs, going from something so delicate like YTMBA to TYMD shows how versatile he was but live he used a different technique and as you say it led to problems. Live is about more than just technique and when you're in the moment at a show and singing along to all the songs it's easy to ignore the fact someone is straining to hit the notes and especially when they have the kind of stage presence Freddie had so yeah it's still great but in a different way.rockchic65 wrote:Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?runner_70 wrote:Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice From a career longevity point of view not so great though, Freddie struggled through concerts like Fukuoka and Tokyo, can't have been fun for him to do regardless if the audience were having a great time. |
Vocal harmony 21.02.2020 12:47 |
^^^ This. Well observed and takes nothing away from how great Freddie was but explains his limitations and how some shows/tours were effected. |
Vocal harmony 21.02.2020 12:47 |
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MisterCosmicc 21.02.2020 17:29 |
rockchic65 wrote:He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.MisterCosmicc wrote:On recordings he sounded brilliant, no question that his unique tone, style of singing (which was different than live) and ability to change his style of singing in different songs, going from something so delicate like YTMBA to TYMD shows how versatile he was but live he used a different technique and as you say it led to problems. Live is about more than just technique and when you're in the moment at a show and singing along to all the songs it's easy to ignore the fact someone is straining to hit the notes and especially when they have the kind of stage presence Freddie had so yeah it's still great but in a different way. From a career longevity point of view not so great though, Freddie struggled through concerts like Fukuoka and Tokyo, can't have been fun for him to do regardless if the audience were having a great time.rockchic65 wrote:Freddie sang from the throat. He really did. It led to problems, but his voice sounds so great. Can you argue with that?runner_70 wrote:Find where MM does any kind of metal, he hasn't ever done SCC, Tyler used to do it and he's never done any of those type songs in his set list. Do let us know what he's like live when you see him in his rescheduled show. You'll probably like him since his way of doing high notes is to push his voice and strain, sounds more rock to you probably.snifflese wrote: It is very hard to find a singer to sing the breadth of the Queen's catalog and both Adam and Freddie can.- AL + MM I wont even think about Lamebird doing metal songs. he has ZERO rock grit in his shit voice |
The Real Wizard 26.02.2020 00:22 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.That's a bit stepfordish, don't you think? Have you even heard the tapes from 79 and 84 where Mercury barely has a voice ? |
Brancelli 26.02.2020 06:53 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Japan was particularly bad.MisterCosmicc wrote: He sounded perfect in concert, even when he fucked up.That's a bit stepfordish, don't you think? Have you even heard the tapes from 79 and 84 where Mercury barely has a voice ? |
Star* 26.02.2020 09:06 |
@Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit. Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world. Could you do better? |
Vocal harmony 26.02.2020 13:02 |
ST16 wrote: @Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit. Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world. Could you do better?And so did David Lee Roth in the 70's and 80's. In fact he put more physical effort into his performances. Didn't make him a better singer than Freddie though. And if someone is realistic enough to point to the fact that Freddie's voice wasn't flawless it doesn't mean he was bad. But someone saying Freddie was amazing and untouchable vocally 100% of the time starts to sound as unbalanced as not accepting that Lambert can actually sing. |
Star* 26.02.2020 15:59 |
Freddie made mistakes he is only human but he gave his all 100% and that is all a human can do! He is still the best front man ever though and that is a fact. |
Peace and Love 27.02.2020 06:41 |
Freddie didn't give his all in NZ in 1985. I was very disappointed by the concert that I had scrimped and saved to go to. Love Queen and their music, but Queen is way more than Freddie Mercury. |
MisterCosmicc 27.02.2020 07:09 |
Peace and Love wrote: Freddie didn't give his all in NZ in 1985. I was very disappointed by the concert that I had scrimped and saved to go to. Love Queen and their music, but Queen is way more than Freddie Mercury.He was drunk. I heard he overcame his drunkenness after 30 minutes like a legend. |
Peace and Love 27.02.2020 07:15 |
I was there, the whole show was a mess. |
Star* 27.02.2020 08:38 |
@Peace and Love : Sorry that you thought Queen's show was not good enough when you saw them back in the 80s, this only proves the band are only human and yes things do go wrong and they have good nights and bad and with Freddie's chain smoking in the mid eighties his voice did take a hammering. Still Freddie was a trouper and carried on the best he could where pricks like Justin Bieber would cancel a show if he had a cold! |
Peace and Love 27.02.2020 09:05 |
Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful to have had a chance to see the original band. It was just so disappointing to get a shortened messy set. The comparison to a Justin Beiber concert is a little skewed as Justin is a solo artist. (Sort of) It was the rest of the band that kept the concert going while Freddie did his thing. I've seen QAL 3 times and thoroughly enjoyed it. I would have loved to see Freddie at his best. |
snifflese 27.02.2020 15:14 |
The guys have only cancelled one time because Adam was really ill in Italy. It is amazing when you think they have done 225 shows or so (didn't look it up, so number could be off a bit). Then consider how old Brian and Roger are and I read that in several instances Brian was under the weather and he still performed. He truly is amazing. I could not believe how spry he is and how much of the show he carries. He can never stand back there and take a break. I am a few years younger and no way could I ever do something like that. My hats are off to all of them as they embody the words, The show must go on. I am wondering what will happen to the European tour if this corona virus does not abate. It would not be any fault of theirs, of course, but the whole idea of the world dealing with this grave problem is scary. I just read today that it has come back a second time to someone in Japan, I believe. She had it, recovered, and is ill again! I know that is off track, but still had to mention it. |
Iron Butterfly 27.02.2020 19:52 |
snifflese wrote: The guys have only cancelled one time because Adam was really ill in Italy. It is amazing when you think they have done 225 shows or so (didn't look it up, so number could be off a bit). Then consider how old Brian and Roger are and I read that in several instances Brian was under the weather and he still performed. He truly is amazing. I could not believe how spry he is and how much of the show he carries. He can never stand back there and take a break. I am a few years younger and no way could I ever do something like that. My hats are off to all of them as they embody the words, The show must go on. I am wondering what will happen to the European tour if this corona virus does not abate. It would not be any fault of theirs, of course, but the whole idea of the world dealing with this grave problem is scary. I just read today that it has come back a second time to someone in Japan, I believe. She had it, recovered, and is ill again! I know that is off track, but still had to mention it.Don't be surprised if at least some of the upcoming shows will be cancelled. |
Nathan H 27.02.2020 21:17 |
I can't imagine them going to Italy at the moment. The UK dates should be fine at the moment as the virus isn't spreading around there but it's hard to know with mainland Europe especially bordering countries. It could end up spreading quite dramatically. I think they performed in Asia just in the nick of time - if they had been a week or even just a few days later there could've been the risk of the shows being cancelled as it spread quite a bit outside China not long after. |
SweetCaroline 27.02.2020 21:43 |
Yes, so far NZ/Australia have not been affected — just fire and then rain! One more show at the Gold Coast on Saturday! They have been very lucky! |
AngelR 27.02.2020 22:03 |
The virus is spreading around here, the UK. There are some affected schools and businesses closed for quarantine today. |
Nathan H 27.02.2020 22:06 |
AngelR wrote: The virus is spreading around here, the UK. There are some affected schools and businesses closed for quarantine today.But not necessarily from person to person yet, it's people returning from Italy or Tenerife. |
anadamfan 27.02.2020 22:16 |
Young Music Fan wrote:It is, be sure of that.AngelR wrote: The virus is spreading around here, the UK. There are some affected schools and businesses closed for quarantine today.But not necessarily from person to person yet, it's people returning from Italy or Tenerife. That virus is spreading too fast and easily. Unfortunately the illness doesn‘t break out until 2-25 (!) days after you caught it. Usually it’s about 2 weeks. Until then you’re spreading it. Many people have it already, but aren’t showing symptoms yet. That’s sure, because today the number of people with corona over here tripled. It’s only the start. |
AngelR 27.02.2020 22:36 |
Yes, it's the beginning of the corona virus epidemic over here. It will spread unfortunately. |
AngelR 28.02.2020 00:49 |
Here is what might happen: link |
The Real Wizard 28.02.2020 04:16 |
ST16 wrote: @Real Wizard There is no need to knock Freddie over his voice because he was a real grafter and put more into a performance than Lambert puts into having a shit. Mercury gave his all every performance he ever did and he worked bloody hard to please the fans all over the world. Could you do better?A singer's voice and showmanship are two separate things, and you clearly are unable to distinguish between the two due to your inability to separate your fandom from an understanding of how music works on even the most basic levels. As ever, you argue like a ten year old - with opinions and appeals to emotion. Whether or not I could personally do better on either front is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. The fact that you think that actually passes as a valid argument says everything about you and nothing about me. |
The Real Wizard 28.02.2020 04:17 |
ST16 wrote: Freddie made mistakes he is only human but he gave his all 100% and that is all a human can do! He is still the best front man ever though and that is a fact.As ever, you have no idea how to differentiate between a fact and an opinion. This must hold you back in life in ways you can't even conceive. |
Iron Butterfly 28.02.2020 04:27 |
AngelR wrote: Yes, it's the beginning of the corona virus epidemic over here. It will spread unfortunately.I'm actually very worried about it all. This may sound bitchy, hateful whatever, but I'd rather shows to be cancelled than have the guys, workers or fans getting it. I guess time will tell, but I do think people will be understanding if the shows end up being cancelled. Not meaning to sound awful here, sorry if it comes across that way. |
Nathan H 28.02.2020 07:59 |
I know of its potential but let's hope it's prevented. At least the virus hasn't killed any children as apparently it gets worse as you get older. |
MisterCosmicc 28.02.2020 12:36 |
Young Music Fan wrote: I know of its potential but let's hope it's prevented. At least the virus hasn't killed any children as apparently it gets worse as you get older.But it’s not only old, unhealthy people getting killed by it. |
Vocal harmony 28.02.2020 13:27 |
runner_70 wrote:Is your brain that fucked that you don't understand what is clearly written.Vocal harmony wrote:So you think QAL is the definitive Queen line up. Ok then. ClownST16 wrote: Yeah all the original band members make up the magic of that group, i remember when Status Quo lost the drummer and bass player they were never quite the same after that! Queen are the same no original lead singer or bass player so no magic!True to an extent, but I wouldn't say there is "no magic". Where do you think Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Journey and Fleetwood Mac fit into that argument. All replaced members to become what are largely viewed as the definitive lineups and some had had considerable success before the lineup changes. Yet again you've invented something that hasn't been said to provide yourself with a subject to base your argumentative point of view on. The only clown here is you, as always. |
Holly2003 28.02.2020 22:34 |
The virus only affects humans so we reptilians will be safe enough. |
PAPA EMERITUS VI 12.03.2020 15:40 |
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PAPA EMERITUS VI 12.03.2020 15:41 |
Real Wizard, you good old fuckin' FRANK ZAPPA retard….WHOEHAHAHAHHA PAPA EMERITUS VI from The Clergy has spoken! Now silence you infidels! |
PAPA EMERITUS VI 14.03.2020 00:39 |
Lame Bert can't sing for shit...and as an entertainer he's even worse. Pathetic camp behaviour that makes every true hardcore Queen fan cringe. He sucks balls big time... (or has a great time sucking big balls….whatever… I couldn't give 2 shits less) And then those Waldorf and Statler figures that May en Taylor have become, make the whole thing even more pathetic.. 2 old men trying to rock and look cool, serving as a backing band for a bad karaoke singer. Queen was QUEEN until 24th november 1991...then it went downhill and in the last 10 years or so it got realy, really REALLY pathetic. As James Hetfield once sang: "SAD BUT TRUE !!" PAPA EMERITUS VI from The Clergy has spoken! Now silence you infidels! |