QueenZone discussion #1585976
Mike "The Mic" Millard Queen master(s)
| people on streets 03.02.2020 23:09 |
The most exciting news in taping history for years and years has been announced on taperssection.com For those who are not a member there (I suppose the majority of this forum) I'll copy paste the original post. First one is Pink Floyd 4-26-75. 24/96 and 16/44.1 up on Dime. link Pink Floyd Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena Los Angeles, CA April 26, 1975 Mike Millard Original Master Tapes via JEMS 2496 Edition The Lost and Found Mike the MICrophone Tapes Volume 18 Contrast Clause: This is the 2496 edition from the original Master Cassettes, the 1644 Edition is located here: link and a 1st generation edition is located here: link Recording Gear: AKG 451E Microphones (CK-1 cardioid capsules) > Nakamichi 550 Cassette Recorder (Dolby On) JEMS 2020 Transfer: Mike Millard Master Cassettes (TDK KR90) > Nakamichi CR-7A (azimuth adjustment; Dolby Off) > Sound Devices USBPre 2 > Audacity 2.0 capture > iZotope RX6 > iZotope Ozone 6 > Audacity > TLH > FLAC 01 Millard Mic Test and Band Tuning 02 Raving and Drooling 03 You Gotta Be Crazy 04 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V) 05 Have A Cigar 06 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts VI-IX) 07 Speak to Me 08 Breathe 09 On the Run 10 Time 11 Breathe (reprise) 12 The Great Gig in the Sky 13 Money 14 Us and Them 15 Any Colour You Like 16 Brain Damage 17 Eclipse 18 Echoes Known Flaws: Small cut/tape flip in “Have a Cigar” and “Any Colour You Like” Welcome to a truly extraordinary new chapter of JEMS’ Lost and Found Mike the MICrophone series presenting recordings made by legendary taper Mike Millard, AKA Mike the MICrophone, best known for his masters of Led Zeppelin done in and around LA circa 1975-77. For further details on how some tapes in this series came to be lost and found again, as well as JEMS' history with Mike Millard, please refer to the notes in Vol. One: link To date the Lost and Found series has presented fresh transfers of previously unavailable first-generation copies made by Mike himself for friends like Stan Gutoski of JEMS, Jim R and Barry G. These sources were upgrades to circulating copies, and in most instances marked the first time verified first generation Millard sources had been directly digitized in the torrent era. Now, we are ecstatic to present what had been previously unthinkable, unimaginable, perhaps even impossible: a direct, high-resolution transfer from Millard’s original master tapes. Yes, you read that correctly, Mike Millard’s master cassettes, long rumored to be destroyed or lost, have been found. Not all of them, but many, and with them a much more complete picture has emerged of what Millard recorded between his first show in late 1973 and his last in early 1992. The reason the rediscovery of his master tapes is such a revelation is that we’ve been told for decades they were long gone. Internet myths suggest Millard destroyed his master tapes before taking his own life, an imprudent detail likely concocted based on assumptions that because the master tapes had never surfaced and Mike’s mental state was troubled, he would do something that rash WITH HIS LIFE’S WORK. There’s also a version of the story where Mike’s family dumps the tapes after he dies. The truth is, Mike’s masters remained in his bedroom for many years after his death in 1994. We know at least a few of Millard’s friends and acquaintances contacted his mother inquiring about the tapes after his death to no avail. But in the early 2000s, longtime Millard friend Rob S was the one she knew and trusted enough to preserve Mike’s work. Here’s Rob’s account of how Millard’s master tapes were saved: After Mike left us, I visited his mom Lia occasionally, usually around the holidays. She’d talk about the grandkids and show me pictures. She had no one to help out around the house so I did some minor improvements like fixing a kitchen shelf that collapsed and another time a gate that hadn’t worked for years. After a few visits, I explained to Lia how the tapes were metal, up to 25 years old already and would eventually deteriorate. She agreed to let me take the tapes and make copies. We went into Mike’s bedroom and it was exactly like I remembered it when I was there years before. I loaded up every tape I could find and went to work copying them. Oldest first, some requiring “surgery.” Months later when I was done copying, I compared what I had copied to a list Mike had compiled of his masters and realized there were many shows missing. I returned the tapes and asked Lia if we could see if there were any more somewhere else in the house. We went into a back bedroom and found a bunch of boxes filled with more original master tapes. I loaded them up, thanked Lia and left. This was the last time I would see her. I copied the rest of the tapes and stored the masters in a cool dry place until late last year when Jim R. reached out. We had known each other through Mike. After speaking with Jim, and later BK who had tracked him down, I knew their partnership was the “right way” to get this music out to everyone who wanted it, and I’m sure Mike would have agreed. ### Initially, Rob copied a large batch of Millard’s master cassettes to DAT and returned them to the house. The second time around, he was given a large portion of the cassette collection, different from what he had copied to DAT. The first round of DAT transfers features some of Millard’s most famous recordings of Led Zeppelin, ELP, the Rolling Stones and Jethro Tull. The second traunch of actual cassette masters includes his captures of Yes, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Rush and Pink Floyd. As exciting as it is to access Millard’s masters of the shows we know and love, there are many new recordings in both collections from artist like Elton John, Queen, Thin Lizzy, Eric Clapton, The Who, the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, Guns N’ Roses, Linda Ronstadt, David Bowie, the Moody Blues, U2 and more. Even with an information gap in the mid ‘80s when Millard was surely taping but there is no tape or written evidence as to what he captured, we have now confirmed some 280 shows Millard did record. Of those, there are master cassettes for approximately 100 shows, DATs off masters of another 75 and first generation analog copies for 20-25. Together, that nearly quadruples the number of extant Millard recordings. In the coming months we will release more amazing shows from the recovered treasure, some familiar, some entirely new. But we had to start somewhere. And so we begin this new era of Mike the MIC master tapes with one of the most beloved recordings in the Millard canon: his incredible capture of Pink Floyd on night four of the band’s five show stand at the Sports Arena in LA on the Wish You Were Here tour. This recording has been bootlegged and circulated in many forms, most recently from what are claimed to be (and in fairness probably are) first-generation sources that sound excellent. In fact, we were preparing to post Jim R’s first generation cassettes made by Mike (which have particularly brilliant cassette art) before this fortunate turn of events. Mike’s master recording is sublime, a sonic marvel not merely for what it captures from the stage but for how little the audience can be heard, save for when you want to hear them. It is full, rich and close in a way that makes the argument for why the best audience recordings can be more satisfying than a soundboard tape. Mike used TDK KR 90 cassettes, an early chrome tape which would soon be rebranded to the more familiar SA 90. The tapes were recorded Dolby on, but for this edition transferred Dolby off, as Mike did himself when he made copies for friends. The sonic signature should be f |
| MemeOverlord69 04.02.2020 01:07 |
I can't believe what I'm seeing. Mike did record Queen after all. Can't wait for his Queen tapes to arise. This is unreal. |
| Makka 04.02.2020 05:15 |
Oh cool. This is exciting. Thanks for the info! :) |
| antiden 04.02.2020 06:12 |
Fingers crossed he managed to record NEWS OF THE WORLD show(s). If this is the case, that would be the ultimate audience tape(s) from that era... |
| Killer_queenIII 04.02.2020 06:46 |
Mike Millard?! As in "Listen to this, Eddie" Mike Millard?!
antiden wrote: Fingers crossed he managed to record NEWS OF THE WORLD show(s). If this is the case, that would be the ultimate audience tape(s) from that era...Oh my god, if he recorded that Christmas concert at the Forum, and it came out this year, this would be THE highlight for 2020. |
| on my way up 04.02.2020 10:05 |
I really do hope he captured 22-12-77! And if we're even more lucky some more Queen shows in LA. We know the band played some astounding shows there so here's hoping... |
| The Real Wizard 04.02.2020 10:28 |
Wow - incredible news. The Millard tapes in the hands of the JEMS guys (sadly just two of them now) is the absolute best case scenario. I've followed this series closely, and this is the first time Queen has been mentioned. This is amazing even without the possibility of a Queen tape or two. But if Millard taped Queen in San Diego and/or LA in December 1977, for us it would be the find of the decade. There is little doubt that this tour was their peak. The Floyd master sounds incredible. Bowie in 78 is just as good. Let's enjoy this - it'll be Christmas morning for a while. |
| on my way up 04.02.2020 10:33 |
Both Queen and Thin Lizzy being mentioned. I hope a complete LA 77 night was captured, both Thin Lizzy's and Queen's set. I can't wait to hear what Queen show(s) they have! |
| The Real Wizard 04.02.2020 10:38 |
on my way up wrote: Both Queen and Thin Lizzy being mentioned. I hope a complete LA 77 night was captured, both Thin Lizzy's and Queen's set.Good eye. Looks like you may well be right. |
| oliverd05 04.02.2020 10:53 |
This sounds brilliant, anyone have the link to the page at taperssection? Can’t seem to find it Cheers |
| The Real Wizard 04.02.2020 11:06 |
Here's the rest of the text of the Dime post, for those who don't have access. It really is a thing of beauty. This is the epitome of the art of preserving old tapes. The JEMS guys are the cream of the crop. ---------------------- The sonic signature should be familiar to those who have done close listening to the best first-generation sourced versions (like buffalofloyd’s update of Sigma’s Definitive Millard), but hopefully that title more accurately applies to this version. To our ears, the Millard master transfer is everything you love about the extant recording and more: lower lows, clearer highs, less hiss. It is balanced, warm and immersive. We’ve made the recording available in both consumer friendly 1644 and audiophile 2496 editions, with mastering at a bare minimum to let the pure power of the capture shine through. Samples provided. Millard’s dear friend Jim R was with Mike at the show and shot the original unpublished photos we are fortunate to include with this release. Here’s what he recalls: Mike and I attended the Pink Floyd concert on April 26, 1975. I pushed him in the wheelchair. It was the fourth night of a five night stand at the LA Sports Arena. Due to Pink Floyd’s popularity, tickets were in extremely high demand and expensive. As a result, we attended only the one night. Since the LA Sports Arena was owned by LA County, all of the choice seats were controlled by downtown ticket brokers. Fortunately, we were in tight with several of them and had our choice of where to sit. Ahead of time, we heard about the high quality sound system Pink Floyd was using and that it would be a Quadrophonic setup. Knowing that, we decided on seats a little further back than normal, in the 16th row in order to pickup some of the Quad sound. Indeed it was a fantastic sound system with PA stacks in each corner of the floor. What really makes this show one of the most memorable of the 200 or so concerts Mike and I attended together was the fact that there were over 500 drug busts made during Pink Floyd’s LA run (detailed in a big LA Times story about the crackdown). Regardless, we were able to sneak in a Nakamichi 550 cassette recorder, which is the size of the yellow pages phone book and nearly 15 pounds. Amazingly, people got busted for a couple joints and somehow we smuggle in a huge tape deck and get away with it. What a rush! The recording turned out superb and it was aided by a very polite crowd. At the very beginning of the recording Mike says "testing 123.” The lighting was on the dark side (pun intended), and since we sat 16 rows back, my pictures turned out a little on the fuzzy side. Oh well. ### Meeting Jim, then Barry and ultimately connecting with Rob has added incredible new chapters to my personal Mike the MIC story that started in 1986 when I first saw a box of Millard tapes and heard stories about how he recorded. I’m lucky and grateful that we all four of us share a deep appreciation for what Mike documented over the years and the on-going belief in his mission to share the music among friends, which is why we do this. As joyous as this initial Millard master release has been, it is bittersweet. The person who showed me that original box of Millard tapes and told me the stories was Stan Gutoski, the S in JEMS. He met Mike face to face on two occasions and the pair had a few phone calls, sharing notes on how they recorded shows, comparing gear and ultimately trading copies of their recordings. Game respecting game. During a 1992 meet up in SoCal, they even spoke about losing their fathers and hugged each other in camaraderie, something Stan never forgot. Sadly, on Friday, January 24, 2020, Walter Stan Gutoski, passed away. He was 74. Stan had gone into the hospital in December because of a spinal infection that severely limited his mobility. I spoke to him at the time, sharing various JEMS updates which always lifted his spirits, even as he sounded weak. He was released, but his condition didn’t improve after he left the hospital, and in mid January I got updates from his son that didn’t sound promising. Last week, his son told me Stan was back in the hospital battling pneumonia, and it was clear his health was rapidly deteriorating. I began to consider how soon I could fly up to see him. On Thursday night, I asked if there was an opportunity to call Stan in the hospital, and his son said perhaps he could put me on speaker phone for a minute if his dad was up to it. Sensing that might not happen, I followed up with a text: “Please tell Stan I love him dearly and that we found Mike Millard’s master tapes a few weeks ago.” His son replied, “Wow. The taper’s ‘Ark of the Covenant.’ That’s amazing. I’ll tell him.” Mid morning the next day, Friday, his son texted, “Good morning. My dad passed away a few minutes ago.” It was the stomach punch I knew was coming, but not this fast. Way too fast. I started crying. His son then texted: “My brother and I and my youngest son stayed with him until 6:30 am. He never went to sleep. He kept fighting it. He was impressed about the 280 shows [Millard recorded]. He kept making me repeat the number. He wanted to know what years and what cities/venues. I guess he can just ask him now in person. [They are] hanging with Jared watching Tom Petty and George Harrison play.” If ever there was a moment of happiness and sadness at the same time, reading that text was it. While I’m not religious, the thought of Mike Millard, Stan Gutoski and our late, great friend Jared Houser (the J in JEMS) all hanging together in heaven is something I am only too happy to believe. |
| on my way up 04.02.2020 11:19 |
What a beautiful story of love for music and friendship among men, sharing the passion for live music and preserving this. |
| Killer_queenIII 04.02.2020 13:54 |
Damn, now that's a story for the ages. It's been a while I've been this excited for a new Queen live recording, and the fact that it's a Millard recording makes me sleep easy knowing that this is going to be quality stuff. |
| Fmarton 04.02.2020 15:16 |
Wow. This is so exciting! |
| Makka 04.02.2020 16:50 |
Awesome story. Bet there'd be heaps of nice recordings in amongst those. |
| stevelondon20 04.02.2020 17:57 |
This is brilliant news! |
| oliverd05 04.02.2020 19:12 |
such an amazing story, ive looked around and found that this Pink Floyd recording is Volume 18 of a series, does anyone have a list of what volumes 1-17 are? |
| MemeOverlord69 05.02.2020 04:34 |
"Due to Pink Floyd’s popularity, tickets were in extremely high demand and expensive. As a result, we attended only the one night." This gives me a lot of hope that Mike attended more than just one Queen gig, as Pink Floyd were of much higher demand in the States than Queen were. We could be seeing the greatest Queen haul ever if this is the case. |
| Makka 05.02.2020 06:02 |
I've just listened to the Pink Floyd one. Holy shit if they have some Queen ones at this sort of quality that'll be huge! |
| The Real Wizard 05.02.2020 06:27 |
oliverd05 wrote: such an amazing story, ive looked around and found that this Pink Floyd recording is Volume 18 of a series, does anyone have a list of what volumes 1-17 are?This is most of them (a couple may have been taken down from the tracker due to inactivity): Rush * 1981-06-12 * Anaheim Convention Center * Anaheim, CA * David Bowie * 1978-04-04 * The Forum * Los Angeles, CA * Jackson Browne * 1978-06-08 * Terrace Theater - Long Beach, CA Peter Gabriel * 1978-09-30 & 1978-10-01 * The Roxy - West Hollywood, CA Rod Stewart & The Faces * 1975-03-05 * The Forum * Los Angeles, CA Jethro Tull * 1977-01-16 * Dorothy Chandler Pavilion - Music Center * Los Angeles, CA Linda Ronstadt * 1977-10-03 * Universal Amphitheatre * Los Angeles, CA Bob Dylan * 1981-11-19 * Sunrise Musical Theater, Sunrise, FL Bob Dylan - 1979-11-19, Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, CA Bruce Springsteen - 1980-11-01, Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA Bob Dylan - 1979-11-18, Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, CA Bob Dylan - 1978-06-07, Universal Amphitheater, Los Angeles, CA Bob Dylan - 1978-06-03, Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, CA Bob Dylan - 1978-06-01, Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, CA |
| Thistle 05.02.2020 07:46 |
I've heard bits of the Floyd show before and it sounds awesome. If everything is like that, then we're in for some treats. Interestingly, the site David Bowie World only rates the sound quality of the Bowie LA Form '78 show as 3 stars out of 5, but I've not heard anything to say whether that's bollocks or not. I know there was a bootleg called Slaughter In The Air, which was nice - if Millard's recording is better, then I can't see me agreeing with Bowie World. |
| oliverd05 05.02.2020 16:36 |
Interesting set of recordings there cheers Bob much appreciated! |
| oliverd05 05.02.2020 16:36 |
Interesting set of recordings there cheers Bob much appreciated! |
| Nathan H 05.02.2020 16:43 |
I'm really looking forward to these not just Queen but other bands too! |
| The Real Wizard 06.02.2020 14:59 |
A recent mini-documentary done on Mike Millard. Well worth watching. https://vimeo.com/190021070/14a4b5b7ca ^ and this one is about one of the four guys that make up JEMS, tapers from the 1970s who continue to unearth brilliant recordings to this day, including the Millard archive. They taped Queen in Seattle 1977, a recording many of us here know well. But their most enduring tapes are undoubtedly Zeppelin in Seattle 75 (some still prefer them over the soundboard tapes that have since emerged). The dedication of these four guys to creating and proliferating the best is pretty well unparalleled. So if you enjoy old concert tapes and haven't really thought much about where they come from, then these two links are a good crash course in seeing how well it can be done. |
| Sam99 06.02.2020 19:44 |
Thanks for sharing Bob really interesting that band The National sound pretty cool, never heard them before. Here’s hoping something from Queen appears. |
| people on streets 06.02.2020 20:43 |
The Real Wizard wrote: A recent mini-documentary done on Mike Millard. Well worth watching. https://vimeo.com/190021070/14a4b5b7ca ^ and this one is about one of the four guys that make up JEMS, tapers from the 1970s who continue to unearth brilliant recordings to this day, including the Millard archive. They taped Queen in Seattle 1977, a recording many of us here know well. But their most enduring tapes are undoubtedly Zeppelin in Seattle 75 (some still prefer them over the soundboard tapes that have since emerged). The dedication of these four guys to creating and proliferating the best is pretty well unparalleled. So if you enjoy old concert tapes and haven't really thought much about where they come from, then these two links are a good crash course in seeing how well it can be done.Both beautiful. |
| Penetration_Guru 06.02.2020 23:52 |
More fuel for the anticipation fire... The guy that recorded Santa Monica 76 went to the Forum in 1977, didn't tape it, and is known to have sometimes helped this fella make recordings... link circumstantial, but encouraging nevertheless |
| The Real Wizard 07.02.2020 01:25 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: More fuel for the anticipation fire... The guy that recorded Santa Monica 76 went to the Forum in 1977, didn't tape it, and is known to have sometimes helped this fella make recordings... link circumstantial, but encouraging neverthelessThat's some good sleuthing. His photos are from 3-3-77, and we already have a half decent sounding tape of half of that night. Killer show - always wanted to hear the rest of it. We'll know soon enough. |
| on my way up 07.02.2020 09:22 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: More fuel for the anticipation fire... The guy that recorded Santa Monica 76 went to the Forum in 1977, didn't tape it, and is known to have sometimes helped this fella make recordings... link circumstantial, but encouraging neverthelessI did the same observation :-) I also like Thin Lizzy a lot so a complete Mike Millard recorded LA 77 night from both bands would be quite something! Mike Millard taped foremost in LA but also in Long Beach and San Diego. My favourite Queen tour is NOTW US 1977 and the band then played 2 shows in Long Beach, 1 in San Diego and 1 at the LA Forum. I've got all my fingers and toes crossed for a Millard recording of one of those too! That would be beyond amazing since we'd finally have a great audience recorded document of that NOTW tour. The speculation is part of the fun ;-) |
| The Real Wizard 10.02.2020 02:01 |
Ah yes, Long Beach too ! That's four west coast shows to pick from. A Mike Millard tape from December 1977 is probably the best Queen tape one could imagine at this point. Time shall tell. |
| Nathan H 10.02.2020 08:06 |
I just hope it's a show when all four members do a great job (e.g. no bad vocals or mistakes), we know many exist on this tour so it would be annoying if a (rare) bad show is the one released. If it's a quality job by the quartet it may be the best recording of Queen in their prime which currently exists. |
| . 10.02.2020 12:37 |
The odd vocal hiccup or mistake is all part of the live music experience. |
| cobohall 10.02.2020 16:12 |
The Real Wizard - Thank you for the links to these two documentaries, they were fascinating, |
| MemeOverlord69 10.02.2020 22:19 |
One of those December 77 shows would be great, and unmistakably one of the most important Queen releases of all-time, but I've got my eye on those three Forum 78 gigs. The musicianship of Queen was at it's peak from December 78 through the Live Killers Tour, and getting any of those shows, one or more, would be one hell of a treat. Would love to hear Brighton Rock, It's Late, or any of the other centerpieces that made the band stand out on those Jazz Tour gigs. I highly doubt now, knowing that Millard taped Queen, and knowing that he wasn't a "one and done" type of guy (remember, he taped every SoCal gig that Zeppelin did from 75-77, sans two of their six forum shows in 77), that he only recorded one Queen gig, and I can certainly see more than one show arising in this collection. Only time will tell though. |
| MemeOverlord69 10.02.2020 22:21 |
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| on my way up 14.02.2020 14:32 |
I've got this feeling we won't have to wait long to get a Queen recording taped by Millard.... ;-) Fingers crossed! |
| . 14.02.2020 16:45 |
MemeOverlord69 wrote: I highly doubt now, knowing that Millard taped Queen, and knowing that he wasn't a "one and done" type of guy (remember, he taped every SoCal gig that Zeppelin did from 75-77, sans two of their six forum shows in 77), that he only recorded one Queen gig, and I can certainly see more than one show arising in this collection. Only time will tell though.Don't get your hopes up on there being more than one recording. |
| oliverd05 15.02.2020 20:54 |
March 3rd 1977 Day at the Races tour Inglewood show just came up on Dimeadozen if anyone wants to grab it and post here? im trying to download it from Dime but for some reason its just not doing anything |
| The Real Wizard 15.02.2020 21:20 |
It's actually a completely uncirculated show - the existing recording is mislabelled, and is actually March 2. This is monumental ! And the sound quality of the samples is fabulous. Can't wait to give this a spin. |
| paulosham 15.02.2020 22:41 |
Here's the info on the show haven't given it a listen yet. Queen The Forum Inglewood, CA March 3, 1977 Mike Millard Original Master Tapes via JEMS The Lost and Found Mike the MICrophone Tapes Volume 19 Recording Gear: AKG 451E Microphones (CK-1 cardioid capsules) > Nakamichi 550 Cassette Recorder Transfer: Mike Millard Master Cassettes > Yamaha KX-W592 Cassette Deck > Sony R-500 DAT > Analog Master DAT Clone > Fostex D5 DAT > Sound Devices USBPre 2 > Audacity 2.0 capture > iZotope RX6 > iZotope Ozone 6 > MBIT+ resample to 16/44 > Audacity > TLH > FLAC 01 Tie Your Mother Down 02 Ogre Battle 03 White Queen 04 Somebody To Love 05 Killer Queen 06 The Millionaire Waltz 07 You’re My Best Friend 08 Bring Back That Leroy Brown 09 Sweet Lady 10 Brighton Rock 11 ’39 12 You Take My Breath Away 13 White Man 14 The Prophet’s Song 15 Bohemian Rhapsody 16 Stone Cold Crazy 17 Keep Yourself Alive 18 Liar 19 In the Lap of the Gods…Revisited 20 Now I’m Here 21 Rock and Roll Medley (incl. Hey Big Spender and Jailhouse Rock) 22 God Save the Queen Known Faults: -Tie Your Mother Down: start cut -Brighton Rock: splice -Now I'm Here: start slightly cut |
| ptrsdiet 16.02.2020 00:20 |
You can find this on 'guitars101.com' |
| mrdata1968 16.02.2020 08:41 |
Yep, and it's great. |
| pmatsynot 16.02.2020 09:23 |
Thank you for the heads up |
| Nathan H 16.02.2020 09:27 |
Here is a download link for the concert I have found from Ryan Newton's YouTube page: https://mega.nz/#!xCxi3QLZ!B9bCRRvJeLjlz1Rt-ZHcCjnu1zT5afwvguY3vqZtRgM |
| . 16.02.2020 10:04 |
link |
| oliverd05 16.02.2020 10:16 |
Ahh brilliant cheers to all involved with getting it available without going to Dime! Much appreciated |
| mrdata1968 16.02.2020 10:34 |
Yes, dime is awfull. |
| A Word In Your Ear 16.02.2020 11:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote: It's actually a completely uncirculated show - the existing recording is mislabelled, and is actually March 2. This is monumental ! And the sound quality of the samples is fabulous. Can't wait to give this a spin.Thanks Bob, so the 57.43 version is actually the 2nd? wow!! a double bonus.. not had chance to listen to Mike's yet.. |
| MercurialFreddie 16.02.2020 11:34 |
THIS IS F*CKING AMAZING !!! The banter, stability, well-oiled music machine, integrity, vocal harmonies THIS IS QUEEN AT THEIR PEAK and thank God that Mike Millard was there to tape it. HUUUUUGE THANKS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN PRESERVING THESE TAPES AND POSTING IT HERE. PS.: It seems that someone pressed a play button during the ballad section and the first bars of the operatic section can be heard. Thanks to this recording we can hear another Bo-Rhap tapes malfunction caught on tape (the second can be heard at the NY 1980's gig if I recall correctly). |
| Holly2003 16.02.2020 11:39 |
Thanks. Here's a contemporary review of the concert by the LA Free Press mag. |
| mrdata1968 16.02.2020 11:39 |
I wonder after how many days someone will press it to cd and vinyl. |
| mrdata1968 16.02.2020 11:56 |
There's a good change that the 1977.03.02 gig will emerge, complete. link |
| . 16.02.2020 12:18 |
paulosham wrote: Here's the info on the show haven't given it a listen yet. Queen The Forum Inglewood, CA March 3, 1977 (As the Wiz said above it's actually March 2nd)No it isn't, the JEMS date is correct. |
| . 16.02.2020 12:31 |
mrdata1968 wrote: There's a good change that the 1977.03.02 gig will emerge, complete.Have you had your crystal ball serviced recently? |
| mrdata1968 16.02.2020 12:48 |
Perhaps i'm more to the source than you think, who knows |
| Grahame 16.02.2020 14:00 |
Absolutely fantastic recording, surely one of the best we have pre 1980. Thank you to everyone involved with this. |
| paulosham 16.02.2020 14:03 |
The Kurgan wrote:Oops, thanks for the correction.paulosham wrote: Here's the info on the show haven't given it a listen yet. Queen The Forum Inglewood, CA March 3, 1977 (As the Wiz said above it's actually March 2nd)No it isn't, the JEMS date is correct. |
| AOCQ 16.02.2020 15:27 |
Thanks! Great sound! |
| FlorianS 16.02.2020 16:07 |
Fantastic! Thank you very much! |
| pittrek 16.02.2020 18:03 |
OK so just to be 100% sure - the previously circulated recording from this date (cca 58 minutes) is actually from the previous date, and this recording is from the 3rd? |
| brENsKi 16.02.2020 18:04 |
quality is amazingly good for an audience boot. and how good is Freddie's voice? best live Somebody To Love I've heard. |
| NastyQueenie74 16.02.2020 18:07 |
Vocally, this show rivals 2/5 MSG |
| QSMJohn 16.02.2020 18:15 |
So this means Inglewood 1977 is from the second of March? |
| Harry_queenrecordings 16.02.2020 18:46 |
Fantastic recording! Such a clarity and a wonderful audience! The performance is top notch! So many great versions of songs and really Queen at their best! Huge thanks for everyone for making this possible to let this recording go public. This is the best audience recording of the 70s so far! With Boston 76 taking a second spot now for me. |
| MemeOverlord69 16.02.2020 20:01 |
pittrek wrote: OK so just to be 100% sure - the previously circulated recording from this date (cca 58 minutes) is actually from the previous date, and this recording is from the 3rd?Yes |
| The Real Wizard 16.02.2020 22:50 |
paulosham wrote:My website will be updated very soon.The Kurgan wrote:Oops, thanks for the correction.paulosham wrote: Here's the info on the show haven't given it a listen yet. Queen The Forum Inglewood, CA March 3, 1977 (As the Wiz said above it's actually March 2nd)No it isn't, the JEMS date is correct. We were all wrong about the date for decades. But we were just going by what we inherited. This recording is just incredible. Surely it rivals Boston 76. What a great day to be a Queen collector. Take note, hoarders - this is how it's done. |
| MemeOverlord69 16.02.2020 23:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote: This recording is just incredible. Surely it rivals Boston 76. What a great day to be a Queen collector. Take note, hoarders - this is how it's done.Indeed this is an amazing recording, but I don't think this is quite there with Boston 76. Something about the mix on this Millard recording is a bit shrilly, but otherwise, yes, it's fantastic. Then again, I'm just nitpicking for the hell of it, and in the end, it's just great to have an uncirculated show, from none less than Mike the Mic. |
| Saint Jiub 16.02.2020 23:24 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I had greedily hoped that there were two Millard concerts (both March 2nd and March 3rd concerts), and downloaded the same MEGA link twice (in this thread and the other thread). Oh well, that's two minutes of my life that I will never get back. LOLpaulosham wrote:My website will be updated very soon. We were all wrong about the date for decades. But we were just going by what we inherited. This recording is just incredible. Surely it rivals Boston 76. What a great day to be a Queen collector. Take note, hoarders - this is how it's done.The Kurgan wrote:Oops, thanks for the correction.paulosham wrote: Here's the info on the show haven't given it a listen yet. Queen The Forum Inglewood, CA March 3, 1977 (As the Wiz said above it's actually March 2nd)No it isn't, the JEMS date is correct. |
| The Real Wizard 16.02.2020 23:36 |
MemeOverlord69 wrote: Indeed this is an amazing recording, but I don't think this is quite there with Boston 76. Something about the mix on this Millard recording is a bit shrilly, but otherwise, yes, it's fantastic. Then again, I'm just nitpicking for the hell of it, and in the end, it's just great to have an uncirculated show, from none less than Mike the Mic.The first song is muddy, but pretty sure that's the front of house mix itself that was muddy. On a recording this good you can hear the front of house tech pushing faders and EQing, and by the third song the mix is perfect. I'd say this is on par with Boston. The separation of instruments is pretty marvellous. |
| MemeOverlord69 17.02.2020 00:25 |
Sure, I'm not disputing the separation of instruments or whatever, but the difference that I hear between Dan Lampinski's Boston 76 and Mike Millard's Inglewood 77 is mainly due to the distance and the size of the venue. Listening to Boston 76 is like having the speakers strapped to your ears, and the wonderful acoustics of the Music Hall give it a great punchy sound. With Inglewood 77, there is definitely a more spacey feel to it. |
| Penetration_Guru 17.02.2020 15:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I'd say this is on par with Boston. The separation of instruments is pretty marvellous.My old crappy ears can hear separation between the BVs too - Brian coming through distinctly, but still below Roger. And surely we should be giving equal credit to the sound guy, for providing such a good sound in order for it to be recorded? |
| mrdata1968 17.02.2020 16:14 |
The muddy sound is because Millard was to late and not on the right spot. It gets better during TYMD. |
| vivaqueen 17.02.2020 16:32 |
wow, great gift, MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Nathan H 17.02.2020 18:45 |
Have any other recordings from artists been released yet? I'm guessing there will be more great shows still to come. Also, is there any pattern on who they are releasing the concerts? e.g. Is it in chronological order? |
| The Real Wizard 17.02.2020 20:47 |
Young Music Fan wrote: Have any other recordings from artists been released yet? I'm guessing there will be more great shows still to come. Also, is there any pattern on who they are releasing the concerts? e.g. Is it in chronological order?It's just one tape every week or two until further notice. Millard's tapes have been heard in one form or another since the 1980s, and plenty of first gen transfers have come out in recent years. But in this particular bunch there have already been about 20 other shows that I listed on page 1 of this thread. The Queen show is a master to DAT tape. The only master clone so come out so far is Floyd in 75 - and it may well be the best audience tape ever made. |
| The Real Wizard 17.02.2020 21:06 |
mrdata1968 wrote: The muddy sound is because Millard was to late and not on the right spot. It gets better during TYMD.If true, then it's impressive that he sorted it out without making any noise that could be picked up by the mics. Typically he'd have the mics attached to his hat so that he'd stand up when everyone else stood up, ensuring the mics were never blocked. So at most perhaps he just turned a couple knobs for the first few minutes. I'd still attribute most of the improvement in sound to the front of house tech. Normally arena shows take a couple songs to get the mix right, even to this day. Soundcheck only gets you so far, as everything changes once 15,000 people are in the room. It's why Tom Petty stopped doing soundchecks for the last 20 years of his career. |
| Chopin1995 21.02.2020 00:25 |
Thanks to everyone who made it possible.
The Real Wizard wrote:This could be my favourite tape of music. Meanwhile I'm enjoying this fantastic tape. And what a story...on my way up wrote: Both Queen and Thin Lizzy being mentioned. I hope a complete LA 77 night was captured, both Thin Lizzy's and Queen's set.Good eye. Looks like you may well be right. I need to ask one thing. This is for someone more oriented than me. Of course I know that Madison Square Garden is "THE" place to play on the east coast. Is the LA Forum its equivalent on the west coast? Or is there any other venue of the same status as these two to play in the States? |
| The Real Wizard 21.02.2020 02:26 |
Chopin1995 wrote: Thanks to everyone who made it possible.Nope, you're bang on. To this day MSG and The Forum are the Meccas of American arenas.The Real Wizard wrote:This could be my favourite tape of music. Meanwhile I'm enjoying this fantastic tape. And what a story... I need to ask one thing. This is for someone more oriented than me. Of course I know that Madison Square Garden is "THE" place to play on the east coast. Is the LA Forum its equivalent on the west coast? Or is there any other venue of the same status as these two to play in the States?on my way up wrote: Both Queen and Thin Lizzy being mentioned. I hope a complete LA 77 night was captured, both Thin Lizzy's and Queen's set.Good eye. Looks like you may well be right. |
| on my way up 21.02.2020 06:30 |
A bit of info: the Thin Lizzy set from this date - 3/3/77 - was not recorded by Mike Millard. So we won't be able to listen to the entire evening. Of course, getting Queen's set is most important :-) |
| Nathan H 21.02.2020 12:06 |
Great performance, great quality. How can this be topped? |
| Chopin1995 21.02.2020 12:39 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Good to have it confirmed.Chopin1995 wrote: Thanks to everyone who made it possible.Nope, you're bang on. To this day MSG and The Forum are the Meccas of American arenas.The Real Wizard wrote:This could be my favourite tape of music. Meanwhile I'm enjoying this fantastic tape. And what a story... I need to ask one thing. This is for someone more oriented than me. Of course I know that Madison Square Garden is "THE" place to play on the east coast. Is the LA Forum its equivalent on the west coast? Or is there any other venue of the same status as these two to play in the States?on my way up wrote: Both Queen and Thin Lizzy being mentioned. I hope a complete LA 77 night was captured, both Thin Lizzy's and Queen's set.Good eye. Looks like you may well be right. I've sent you PM :) |
| Holly2003 21.02.2020 12:42 |
You could say WInterlands in SF and the Oakland Coliseum were on a par with the LA Forum back in the 1960s and early 1970s. Smaller venues like the Hollywood Bowl were also prestigious -- the Beatles and Stones played there. Bill Graham's Fillmore (West) was also a "we've made it" venue. |
| Chopin1995 21.02.2020 13:03 |
Interestingly enough, all those venues are in California. |
| The Real Wizard 21.02.2020 18:00 |
Yep - because California was the most cosmopolitan place in the country, as it still is today. |
| Penetration_Guru 21.02.2020 18:01 |
Chopin1995 wrote: Interestingly enough, all those venues are in California.Why is that surprising? That's where all the people are. |
| MemeOverlord69 21.02.2020 19:25 |
Young Music Fan wrote: Great performance, great quality. How can this be topped?A Mike Millard recording of the Christmas Inglewood show. This would be the holy grail of Queen recordings. |
| Nathan H 21.02.2020 21:27 |
MemeOverlord69 wrote:Yes it would. I'd even go to the extreme and say that would be the greatest of the greatest.Young Music Fan wrote: Great performance, great quality. How can this be topped?A Mike Millard recording of the Christmas Inglewood show. This would be the holy grail of Queen recordings. I'd say they it's always been true with Queen that the best quality concerts always have the best performances e.g. Boston '76. |
| MemeOverlord69 21.02.2020 23:06 |
Young Music Fan wrote: I'd say they it's always been true with Queen that the best quality concerts always have the best performances e.g. Boston '76.Eh, I'm not sure that's really a consistent enough trend. There are plenty of great sounding recordings of pretty bland shows, particularly from the latter half of 1982 and 1984. And in contrast, many of their best shows are on pretty horrid recordings, like Glasgow 74, Sao Paulo 3/21/81, nearly all the Dutch shows queen played, etc, and those London 78 gigs (the first night's quality is dreadful). |
| Nathan H 21.02.2020 23:39 |
MemeOverlord69 wrote:Soz, I didn't make it very clear, I should've said several - it's been a long day!Young Music Fan wrote: I'd say they it's always been true with Queen that the best quality concerts always have the best performances e.g. Boston '76.Eh, I'm not sure that's really a consistent enough trend. There are plenty of great sounding recordings of pretty bland shows, particularly from the latter half of 1982 and 1984. And in contrast, many of their best shows are on pretty horrid recordings, like Glasgow 74, Sao Paulo 3/21/81, nearly all the Dutch shows queen played, etc, and those London 78 gigs (the first night's quality is dreadful). |
| fly 28.02.2020 10:18 |
Anyone else haveing problem with this link! link I can't download the file! It download even above the file size (818.1 MB , the file is 717.6 MB) and then it's says "no content"!! Can someone post new link to download, or some other filehost! |
| jakelic 28.02.2020 13:21 |
Here you go. If it doesn't work out, I can upload a .rar via wetransfer. link Enjoy! |
| angelrulax 10.04.2020 16:20 |
Thank you!!! How many treasures like this are waiting to be discovered? |