philip storey 01.02.2020 22:25 |
I am not for one minute looking forward to a Live CD or DVD of Queen & AL,however I find it a little strange that Brian and Roger have not milked that particular product yet.After all they did Return of the Champions with Paul Rodgers and a DVD.Maybe they have something in the works please us all,while we wait for a "live killers" box set.;-} " |
philip storey 01.02.2020 22:45 |
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SweetCaroline 01.02.2020 23:02 |
I have some bootleg copies of some of their previous shows and there are full concert YouTube videos on the internet from various fans. |
runner_70 01.02.2020 23:48 |
God beware ..... |
Ale Solan 02.02.2020 00:14 |
philip storey wrote: No Queen Adam Lambert Live ReleasesThank fuck. |
Ale Solan 02.02.2020 00:14 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I have some bootleg copies of some of their previous shows and there are full concert YouTube videos on the internet from various fans.No one gives a shit. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 02.02.2020 01:16 |
I am a happy owner of the Blu-Ray they officially released in 2014 in Japan only. I wonder why they don't release it worldwide, as it is great. Queen + Adam Lambert Live in Japan Summer Sonic 2014 [Blu-ray] link Cheers, Ogre- |
CM 02.02.2020 04:45 |
The best part of the every Q+AL show is the set of their new studio album being finally performed live. Lambert voice in their album is great with Brian and Roger on backing vocals, right, but what a blast is getting most of their new songs played live, so we will getting a new DVD release with every new album they release too. Queen used to get a new studio record out in two or three years time so the new deal with Lambert to get a new record released every four years is great... Brian and Roger feel lucky to have Adam, so they dont want to waste their time with boring tours when they can use their talent to create new music. The way Ringo Starr or Robert Plant always do. ...and then we remember Queen is just an endless greatest hits jukebox. Congrats Brian. Queen is the best dead band alive in the world. |
matt z 02.02.2020 05:52 |
^ am i drunk or does this not make any sense? |
runner_70 02.02.2020 08:26 |
CM wrote: The best part of the every Q+AL show is the set of their new studio album being finally performed live. Lambert voice in their album is great with Brian and Roger on backing vocals, right, but what a blast is getting most of their new songs played live, so we will getting a new DVD release with every new album they release too. Queen used to get a new studio record out in two or three years time so the new deal with Lambert to get a new record released every four years is great... Brian and Roger feel lucky to have Adam, so they dont want to waste their time with boring tours when they can use their talent to create new music. The way Ringo Starr or Robert Plant always do. ...and then we remember Queen is just an endless greatest hits jukebox. Congrats Brian. Queen is the best dead band alive in the world.LOL ;) |
MisterCosmicc 02.02.2020 10:27 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I have some bootleg copies of some of their previous shows and there are full concert YouTube videos on the internet from various fans.What do you need those for? You have the future shows. Remember when you said people should listen to current QAL because Freddie isn’t around anymore? So why are you listening to old QAL concerts when you’ve got the current and future performances? |
Star* 02.02.2020 10:52 |
It is obvious why Brian & Roger will not record with Adam, it is because they know it will be a flop and going by Adam's solo career that is a complete car crash. For gods sake do not record with the cock twat its bad enough seeing Queen abuse there rock status with this screeching banshee on stage. |
Star* 02.02.2020 10:52 |
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master marathon runner 02.02.2020 11:46 |
Just roll on retirement. ....then we can all breathe easy. |
philip storey 02.02.2020 12:17 |
Sweet Caroline can we get something straight and I would like a honest answer please. Do you think Queen were a better band with Freddie Mercury from 1972 until 1991 or do you think that the currant line up with Queen+Adam Lambert are better than they were with Freddie Mercury and could you give your reasons thanks. |
Holly2003 02.02.2020 12:34 |
ST17 wrote: It is obvious why Brian & Roger will not record with Adam, it is because they know it will be a flop and going by Adam's solo career that is a complete car crash. For gods sake do not record with the cock twat its bad enough seeing Queen abuse there rock status with this screeching banshee on stage.If you took a moment to read and think clearly, you might've noticed the topic is about a live release, not a new studio album. |
Iron Butterfly 02.02.2020 12:45 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Ironic isn't it.SweetCaroline wrote: I have some bootleg copies of some of their previous shows and there are full concert YouTube videos on the internet from various fans.What do you need those for? You have the future shows. Remember when you said people should listen to current QAL because Freddie isn’t around anymore? So why are you listening to old QAL concerts when you’ve got the current and future performances? Here is my guesses... So she can lust over AL She knows AL likely never will draw in huge crowds with his own solo shows. The shows are magnificent, spectacular and magical. And of course, she thinks AL is the only one who can sing Queen songs. I wonder how many Queen shows and bootlegs of Queen shows she's watched and or owns. I doubt she owns one. |
Star* 02.02.2020 13:01 |
@Holly2003 I never mentioned a studio recording i just said i hope Adam & May/Taylor do NOT record together ever! |
Secretfantasy 02.02.2020 18:57 |
A few gigs have been fully filmed. I was at Barcelona 2015 and some that has been relesed in VR! I heard QAL have recorded e songs together! If well ever hear them i guess not!! I agree we could have some releases by now! i always though Love Kills could have had a single release! backed with Queens new version and freds original!! And what Queen did to Ghost Town! Amazing! |
runner_70 02.02.2020 19:05 |
Secretfantasy wrote: And what Queen did to Ghost Town! Amazing!Ghost Town was released until 1991? Because Queen could have done something with it then. They stopped existing due to the death of their singer. How can they do something with it? The song is shit and stays shit. Not as shitty as Two Fux. THe worst thing Brian and Roger ever played on EVER. And that includes the Badger song and 5IVE |
Nathan H 02.02.2020 21:47 |
runner_70 wrote:I hate to say it but you're not part of Queen's legal and management team. Even Freddie said that he wanted Queen to continue - "do what ever you want but never make me boring". I like everyone to have opinions but when they say stupid, inconsiderate things like this...Secretfantasy wrote: And what Queen did to Ghost Town! Amazing!Ghost Town was released until 1991? Because Queen could have done something with it then. They stopped existing due to the death of their singer. If you've got nothing positive to say about Queen in the 21st century then do things like you did back in 1991 and not go on the Internet when sites like this didn't exist! This is where pretty much everyone says positive, celebratory things about the band not comments like this. |
Saint Jiub 02.02.2020 22:11 |
Pepsi commercial, Robbie Williams, the musical, QAL ... all boring IMHO |
Ale Solan 02.02.2020 22:42 |
philip storey wrote: Sweet Caroline can we get something straight and I would like a honest answer please. Do you think Queen were a better band with Freddie Mercury from 1972 until 1991 or do you think that the currant line up with Queen+Adam Lambert are better than they were with Freddie Mercury and could you give your reasons thanks.1972? WTF? |
philip storey 02.02.2020 22:50 |
Sorry 1970 but don't ask me which month,i am sure somebody can tell us ;-} ] |
runner_70 02.02.2020 23:15 |
If you've got nothing positive to say about Queen in the 21st century .I am sorry to break it to you but there is no Queen in the 21st century only some cover combo using the name plus a "+" behind it to make people believe this is the real deal. Queen stopped existing on Nov 24th 1991. |
Nathan H 03.02.2020 08:16 |
runner_70 wrote:They fucking haven't, find one document to say that it's ended. If you want to have it ended then tough luck - it's one thing Freddie won't've wanted to happen. Don't waste where the majority see Queen as still exisiting to this day.If you've got nothing positive to say about Queen in the 21st century .I am sorry to break it to you but there is no Queen in the 21st century only some cover combo using the name plus a "+" behind it to make people believe this is the real deal. Queen stopped existing on Nov 24th 1991. You come across as only liking Freddie - he was in a group where he wanted all four members to be treated the same. So, you saying a comment like that is not only being disrespectful to Brian and Roger, but to Freddie - if he didn't want to be in a group then he would've been on his own and he didn't like that. |
Nathan H 03.02.2020 08:19 |
Saint Jiub wrote: Pepsi commercial, Robbie Williams, the musical, QAL ... all boring IMHOWell that's a shame for you. Millions of others don't find them boring. I think Freddie would've wanted his music to be seen on a wide scale and I think with things like this, it's working. |
Nathan H 03.02.2020 08:21 |
runner_70 wrote: Ghost Town was released until 1991? Because Queen could have done something with it then. They stopped existing due to the death of their singer. How can they do something with it?Find one bloody source to say it's ended and I bet you can't. Freddie never did want Queen to end otherwise he would've said so. What a fan you are. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 08:44 |
Young Music Fan wrote:Maylor have become modern grave robbers. Insulting Freddie but selling their crap on his back. They should be ashamed of themselves. Kudos to John. The only alive Queen member with dignityrunner_70 wrote:They fucking haven't, find one document to say that it's ended. If you want to have it ended then tough luck - it's one thing Freddie won't've wanted to happen. Don't waste where the majority see Queen as still exisiting to this day. You come across as only liking Freddie - he was in a group where he wanted all four members to be treated the same. So, you saying a comment like that is not only being disrespectful to Brian and Roger, but to Freddie - if he didn't want to be in a group then he would've been on his own and he didn't like that.If you've got nothing positive to say about Queen in the 21st century .I am sorry to break it to you but there is no Queen in the 21st century only some cover combo using the name plus a "+" behind it to make people believe this is the real deal. Queen stopped existing on Nov 24th 1991. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 09:18 |
Young Music Fan wrote:runner_70 wrote:They fucking haven't, find one document to say that it's ended. If you want to have it ended then tough luck - it's one thing Freddie won't've wanted to happen. Don't waste where the majority see Queen as still exisiting to this day. You come across as only liking Freddie - he was in a group where he wanted all four members to be treated the same. So, you saying a comment like that is not only being disrespectful to Brian and Roger, but to Freddie - if he didn't want to be in a group then he would've been on his own and he didn't like that.If you've got nothing positive to say about Queen in the 21st century .I am sorry to break it to you but there is no Queen in the 21st century only some cover combo using the name plus a "+" behind it to make people believe this is the real deal. Queen stopped existing on Nov 24th 1991. |
Iron Butterfly 03.02.2020 09:26 |
Young Music Fan wrote:The Pepsi advert had alot of hype about it. Honestly to me that is one of the worst things Brian and Roger were ever involved with since 1991. I think that was tacky as heck, one of those wtf were they thinking about.Saint Jiub wrote: Pepsi commercial, Robbie Williams, the musical, QAL ... all boring IMHOWell that's a shame for you. Millions of others don't find them boring. I think Freddie would've wanted his music to be seen on a wide scale and I think with things like this, it's working. The Queen musical, I've never attended it live, but I do know it turned many people into Queen fans. Robbie was nothing special at all. The Pepsi ad, Robbie, was just thankfully one offs. The musical, I'm going to be honest, I never expected that to be as big as it was. Sometimes I have to eat my hat ;-) |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 09:45 |
runner_70 wrote: Maylor have become modern grave robbers. Insulting Freddie but selling their crap on his back. They should be ashamed of themselves. Kudos to John. The only alive Queen member with dignityI disagree with what you say about Maylor but aside from that anyone claiming John is the only one with dignity is just refusing to see what's obvious, John retired from music in 1997 for his own reasons, nothing to do with dignity and it was well before Maylor collaborated with Paul much less Adam. They all thought it was over at that point but they've had a second and third chance of doing what they love, John wasn't interested and that's his right, it's that simple and they have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of, thousands of fans are getting to see them live (not everyone thinks only Freddie mattered) and there's now tons of new fans interested in Queen music because of them doing all the projects they have (including the movie you hate). |
runner_70 03.02.2020 10:08 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:The Musical was ok for what it is. A musical. Too bad Maylor smelled there is still tons of money to be made with the Queen name hence came Queen +. Their solo stuff did not sell well so they rode the dead horse Queen again. QPR was ok because it was a believable collaboration of three rockstars. They should have dropped the name though. QAL is just like the musical: kitschy overblown broadway glitter. And on top the annoying twat destroying Queen songs. They could have taken ANY Singer from the Queen Musical and there are lots of better ones. They went for the AI loser and became a laughing stock after more than 8 years with this tool. Sad declineYoung Music Fan wrote:The Pepsi advert had alot of hype about it. Honestly to me that is one of the worst things Brian and Roger were ever involved with since 1991. I think that was tacky as heck, one of those wtf were they thinking about. The Queen musical, I've never attended it live, but I do know it turned many people into Queen fans. Robbie was nothing special at all. The Pepsi ad, Robbie, was just thankfully one offs. The musical, I'm going to be honest, I never expected that to be as big as it was. Sometimes I have to eat my hat ;-)Saint Jiub wrote: Pepsi commercial, Robbie Williams, the musical, QAL ... all boring IMHOWell that's a shame for you. Millions of others don't find them boring. I think Freddie would've wanted his music to be seen on a wide scale and I think with things like this, it's working. |
Star* 03.02.2020 10:21 |
@Young Music Fan : Runner70 is correct in that Queen do not really exist because Queen was a complete unit of four men, two are missing and as Roger Taylor admitted they are not Queen because today Queen is only a brand name to sell tickets. Freddie, Roger John, Brian were Queen not Brian & Roger get it ? Further more Runner70 is correct in saying the real Queen band died the night Freddie did. Brian just pretends he has a band now and they tour the world just doing the hits which is very boring with a nobody like Adam Lambert. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 10:51 |
Summary: I am always right. Life can be simple:) |
Nathan H 03.02.2020 12:14 |
If John is really annoyed with what Brian and Roger he'll have done or will do a court case. I'm sure he's not too bothered because he'll still be getting royalties and probably more thanks to these extra opportunities. |
SweetCaroline 03.02.2020 13:32 |
philip storey, for me it is about the music! I was too busy in the 70’s and 80’s getting married and raising babies to attend live Queen concerts so unfortunately I didn’t see them back then. I was not an American Idol fan and didn’t see Adam audition singing Bohemian Rhapsody but after I channel surfed and saw him perform I Get No Satisfaction and Ring of Fire and how exciting it was that he had a dream performance in the finale with Brian and Roger, through that experience I have become a huge fan of both eras. |
SweetCaroline 03.02.2020 13:50 |
Before I get jumped on, it’s I Can’t Get No Satisfaction! Freddie is an original and one of Adam’s idols, along with Michael, David Bowie, Elvis and even Madonna. It is taking awhile but I think Adam is leaving his mark with his creative interpretations of both existing and new music. |
brENsKi 03.02.2020 14:20 |
ST17 wrote:@Young Music Fan : Runner70 is correct in that Queen do not really exist because Queen was a complete unit of four men, two are missing and as Roger Taylor admitted they are not Queen because today Queen is only a brand name to sell tickets.no. this is completely wrong. this is only an individual's perception of this situation. Queen DO exist as long as any founder member wishes to continue as Queen. Some may not like the new projects, but they are definitely Queen. Many bands continue after deaths, splits, expulsions. A band only fails to exist once there are no founder members in the lineup. There's one exception to this rule: The Drifters - who by nature of the group's concept at inception is that members would come and go whenever - the band's name confirms this. |
Star* 03.02.2020 15:44 |
They may still call themselves Queen but the spirit and ambience of the band is gone! Same for other bands that do that like Dave Hill's "Slade" not the same. Status Quo ( now with only "Francis Rossi" and Queen (with only Brian May & Roger Taylor) the magic and spirit has died. |
brENsKi 03.02.2020 16:16 |
ST17 wrote:They may still call themselves Queen but the spirit and ambience of the band is gone! Same for other bands that do that like Dave Hill's "Slade" not the same. Status Quo ( now with only "Francis Rossi" and Queen (with only Brian May & Roger Taylor) the magic and spirit has died.but that's your opinion, and it could be the same for others. The only opinion that matters is that of the band. it's their right to continue to use the name. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 16:20 |
ST17 wrote: They may still call themselves Queen but the spirit and ambience of the band is gone! Same for other bands that do that like Dave Hill's "Slade" not the same. Status Quo ( now with only "Francis Rossi" and Queen (with only Brian May & Roger Taylor) the magic and spirit has died.With the difference that most of those mentioned are still recording artists who won't do endless greatest Hits tourings which are completely pointless. Freddie would have hated being a nostalgia act. Nonetheless they promote their crap with "Freddie would have loved it". He would not. They just milk the cashcow nothing else. And noone replaces the most iconic frontman ever with a lousy second rate AI loser. Noone!!!!! |
SweetCaroline 03.02.2020 16:20 |
Wow, I think there are thousands of people who would argue that the magic and spirit of Queen music has NOT died and is stronger than ever! |
brENsKi 03.02.2020 16:31 |
runner_70 wrote:With the difference that most of those mentioned are still recording artists who won't do endless greatest Hits tourings which are completely pointless. Freddie would have hated being a nostalgia act. Nonetheless they promote their crap with "Freddie would have loved it". He would not. They just milk the cashcow nothing else. And noone replaces the most iconic frontman ever with a lousy second rate AI loser. Noone!!!!![color=blue]But at the end of the day, if there's an audience they'll continue - it's their right to do so - not yours to decide. If the crowds stop coming (and Queen decide to continue regardless) then - and only then would you have a valid point.[/color] SweetCaroline wrote:Wow, I think there are thousands of people who would argue that the magic and spirit of Queen music has NOT died and is stronger than ever!blue |
Star* 03.02.2020 17:21 |
Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! I was chatting to Gregg Brooks on social media and he said he agrees with me that Queen are not the same and he is not a fan of Adam Lambert but he only goes to shows to watch Brian & Roger play which is a fair comment So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam. |
brENsKi 03.02.2020 17:25 |
ST17 wrote:Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam.well it does make it right. because it's their right to do so. you may disagree, but you don't have have a "dog in the fight" - their continuing doesn't affect you any more than it should anyone else not attending the gigs. perhaps it's time to just let it go, it won;t help you arguing over something you have no control over. i would agree with you on your closing statement - you may have a point. but we'll never know that to be a fact - not unless you ask every single concert-goer who they were there to see. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 17:42 |
brENsKi wrote:Cmon you really think there are pple there wanting to see Lamebird in the first place when there are ZERO AL songs in the set?????ST17 wrote:Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam.well it does make it right. because it's their right to do so. you may disagree, but you don't have have a "dog in the fight" - their continuing doesn't affect you any more than it should anyone else not attending the gigs. perhaps it's time to just let it go, it won;t help you arguing over something you have no control over. i would agree with you on your closing statement - you may have a point. but we'll never know that to be a fact - not unless you ask every single concert-goer who they were there to see. |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 18:37 |
runner_70 wrote:Plenty of Adam's fans go to the shows regardless of whether his songs are included. As to Queen fans there are plenty who like what he does, you've argued with a few on facebook and you know they've seen Freddie live, there's plenty on twitter who comment after the shows that they've now become fans of Adam as well, some even saying they'd love to see him solo and some who don't even check out his solo stuff but still rave about him with Brian & Roger. Of course there's others who do go just for Brian & Roger and probably would regardless who was singing and some go even though they don't particularly like Adam's voice. The result is there's not just one type of fan.brENsKi wrote:Cmon you really think there are pple there wanting to see Lamebird in the first place when there are ZERO AL songs in the set?????ST17 wrote:Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam.well it does make it right. because it's their right to do so. you may disagree, but you don't have have a "dog in the fight" - their continuing doesn't affect you any more than it should anyone else not attending the gigs. perhaps it's time to just let it go, it won;t help you arguing over something you have no control over. i would agree with you on your closing statement - you may have a point. but we'll never know that to be a fact - not unless you ask every single concert-goer who they were there to see. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 19:45 |
rockchic65 wrote:"others" who just go for Brian and Roger......How delusional can you get????runner_70 wrote:Plenty of Adam's fans go to the shows regardless of whether his songs are included. As to Queen fans there are plenty who like what he does, you've argued with a few on facebook and you know they've seen Freddie live, there's plenty on twitter who comment after the shows that they've now become fans of Adam as well, some even saying they'd love to see him solo and some who don't even check out his solo stuff but still rave about him with Brian & Roger. Of course there's others who do go just for Brian & Roger and probably would regardless who was singing and some go even though they don't particularly like Adam's voice. The result is there's not just one type of fan.brENsKi wrote:Cmon you really think there are pple there wanting to see Lamebird in the first place when there are ZERO AL songs in the set?????ST17 wrote:Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam.well it does make it right. because it's their right to do so. you may disagree, but you don't have have a "dog in the fight" - their continuing doesn't affect you any more than it should anyone else not attending the gigs. perhaps it's time to just let it go, it won;t help you arguing over something you have no control over. i would agree with you on your closing statement - you may have a point. but we'll never know that to be a fact - not unless you ask every single concert-goer who they were there to see. |
Nathan H 03.02.2020 21:15 |
I go to see Q+AL mainly because of Brian and Roger of course, but the majority of people who attend (and me included) leave the venue you amazement of Adam's vocal technicality - to be able to sing Queen songs in the same pitch as the original version nearly every time is quite something, whether you like his voice or not! |
Iron Butterfly 03.02.2020 21:19 |
rockchic65 wrote:Those Queen fans you speak of who has turned into AL fans, still hasn't made AL to be able to sell or even download millions of his solo music.runner_70 wrote:Plenty of Adam's fans go to the shows regardless of whether his songs are included. As to Queen fans there are plenty who like what he does, you've argued with a few on facebook and you know they've seen Freddie live, there's plenty on twitter who comment after the shows that they've now become fans of Adam as well, some even saying they'd love to see him solo and some who don't even check out his solo stuff but still rave about him with Brian & Roger. Of course there's others who do go just for Brian & Roger and probably would regardless who was singing and some go even though they don't particularly like Adam's voice. The result is there's not just one type of fan.brENsKi wrote:Cmon you really think there are pple there wanting to see Lamebird in the first place when there are ZERO AL songs in the set?????ST17 wrote:Sure it is there right to continue but that does not make it right! So the shows are sell outs mainly because of Brian & Roger not Adam.well it does make it right. because it's their right to do so. you may disagree, but you don't have have a "dog in the fight" - their continuing doesn't affect you any more than it should anyone else not attending the gigs. perhaps it's time to just let it go, it won;t help you arguing over something you have no control over. i would agree with you on your closing statement - you may have a point. but we'll never know that to be a fact - not unless you ask every single concert-goer who they were there to see. I don't think many AL fans have turned into Queen fans as you might think. Examples thr two main Glamberts here who can barely post about Freddie and Queen, while posting on Queen boards. |
Iron Butterfly 03.02.2020 21:24 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Before I get jumped on, it’s I Can’t Get No Satisfaction! Freddie is an original and one of Adam’s idols, along with Michael, David Bowie, Elvis and even Madonna. It is taking awhile but I think Adam is leaving his mark with his creative interpretations of both existing and new music.Freddie, Jackson, Bowie, Presley and Madonna have been pretty groundbreaking in their careers. AL not so much. While AL seems stuck singing other people's music. He's not as creative as you like to think. |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 21:37 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Those Queen fans you speak of who has turned into AL fans, still hasn't made AL to be able to sell or even download millions of his solo music. I don't think many AL fans have turned into Queen fans as you might think. Examples thr two main Glamberts here who can barely post about Freddie and Queen, while posting on Queen boards.I hardly think two people on a Queenzone forum is representative of everyone out there and there are some of Adam's fans who are now Queen fans but it's irrelevant anyway, they don't have to become Queen fans, it's not essential. I've seen plenty comments on Twitter after the shows about Adam, not all will check him out solo and of those that do his music is nothing like Queen so maybe they don't like it enough to buy/download it who knows, but there are definitely lots who go for Brian & Roger and come away fans of Adam even if it's only as the singer of QAL. |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 21:38 |
runner_70 wrote: "others" who just go for Brian and Roger......How delusional can you get????No idea what you mean by that. |
Iron Butterfly 03.02.2020 21:48 |
rockchic65 wrote:Snort. Those two people think I and so eine else here represents Queen fans, funny enough.Iron Butterfly wrote: Those Queen fans you speak of who has turned into AL fans, still hasn't made AL to be able to sell or even download millions of his solo music. I don't think many AL fans have turned into Queen fans as you might think. Examples thr two main Glamberts here who can barely post about Freddie and Queen, while posting on Queen boards.I hardly think two people on a Queenzone forum is representative of everyone out there and there are some of Adam's fans who are now Queen fans but it's irrelevant anyway, they don't have to become Queen fans, it's not essential. I've seen plenty comments on Twitter after the shows about Adam, not all will check him out solo and of those that do his music is nothing like Queen so maybe they don't like it enough to buy/download it who knows, but there are definitely lots who go for Brian & Roger and come away fans of Adam even if it's only as the singer of QAL. Sure, Queen fans have wanted to check AL's music out. I don't think many of them turn into mega AL fans. I have quite a few of Queen fans on my facebook, and not one of them have turned into s mega AL fan. One came close, but she is ot even an AL fan these days. AL hss said some of his latest music was done hoping to catch Queen fans ears...I think he went the wrong way about it. That statement he made about that made it seem he wants to piggy back of Queen's sucess, and one of the reasons I say he's riding on coattails. |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 22:08 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Snort. Those two people think I and so eine else here represents Queen fans, funny enough. Sure, Queen fans have wanted to check AL's music out. I don't think many of them turn into mega AL fans. I have quite a few of Queen fans on my facebook, and not one of them have turned into s mega AL fan. One came close, but she is ot even an AL fan these days. AL hss said some of his latest music was done hoping to catch Queen fans ears...I think he went the wrong way about it. That statement he made about that made it seem he wants to piggy back of Queen's sucess, and one of the reasons I say he's riding on coattails.I really couldn't care less who likes his music and who doesn't I was simply pointing out there are plenty Queen fans who have seen him QAL and rate him as a singer, that has zero to do with his own music. So what if he hopes some Queen fans like his own music, he's been with them for over seven years now so if some fans check him out (and some definitely do) and like what they hear all well and good, those that don't fine as well, he's not holding a gun to anyone's head, they have free will. |
Iron Butterfly 03.02.2020 22:39 |
rockchic65 wrote:My point is, from what I've seen and read those Queen fans who check him out haven't made his music sell better. He is unable to keep any of his momentum going, mainly because he has always gone back singing with Brian and Roger...and even that hasn't helped him as maybe he hoped.Iron Butterfly wrote: Snort. Those two people think I and so eine else here represents Queen fans, funny enough. Sure, Queen fans have wanted to check AL's music out. I don't think many of them turn into mega AL fans. I have quite a few of Queen fans on my facebook, and not one of them have turned into s mega AL fan. One came close, but she is ot even an AL fan these days. AL hss said some of his latest music was done hoping to catch Queen fans ears...I think he went the wrong way about it. That statement he made about that made it seem he wants to piggy back of Queen's sucess, and one of the reasons I say he's riding on coattails.I really couldn't care less who likes his music and who doesn't I was simply pointing out there are plenty Queen fans who have seen him QAL and rate him as a singer, that has zero to do with his own music. So what if he hopes some Queen fans like his own music, he's been with them for over seven years now so if some fans check him out (and some definitely do) and like what they hear all well and good, those that don't fine as well, he's not holding a gun to anyone's head, they have free will. From this Queen fan, I will say one of his songs is absolutely very good, great even, but that doesn't mean I like the two songs that followed. They were so weak, I'd be surprised if he got new fans by those 2 songs. |
rockchic65 03.02.2020 22:44 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: My point is, from what I've seen and read those Queen fans who check him out haven't made his music sell better. He is unable to keep any of his momentum going, mainly because he has always gone back singing with Brian and Roger...and even that hasn't helped him as maybe he hoped. From this Queen fan, I will say one of his songs is absolutely very good, great even, but that doesn't mean I like the two songs that followed. They were so weak, I'd be surprised if he got new fans by those 2 songs.He's put an EP out since those two songs, will be releasing one new song tonight and his full album in March so he's not going back to singing with Brian & Roger he's doing both. As I pointed out their tour is broken up into bits and there's plenty time for him to do his own thing this year, Album in March, tour with QAL from May then solo tour after the QAL tour ends in early July. |
runner_70 03.02.2020 23:09 |
The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP. |
MisterCosmicc 03.02.2020 23:51 |
What an attention seeker. I very much doubt Freddie would have had an interest in Adam. Attention seeking with terrible fashion. |
SweetCaroline 04.02.2020 01:11 |
Maybe the half-time show for Super Bowl LV in 2021? link |
Iron Butterfly 04.02.2020 01:34 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe the half-time show for Super Bowl LV in 2021? linkMaybe not. Likely not. Why do you do this every year? The Superbowl was only yesterday and already you are hoping, wanting , needing Q+AL to perform next year. Every year since Q+AL started you do this. |
MisterCosmicc 04.02.2020 03:08 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe the half-time show for Super Bowl LV in 2021? linkThe majority of those watching won’t be interested in Lambert at all... most would be put off. |
Nathan H 04.02.2020 07:59 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: The majority of those watching won’t be interested in Lambert at all... most would be put off.Unfortunately I don't think many people are put off by AL, in fact more people have seen Q+AL with every tour they've done. If you don't like something, fine, but don't make that dislike against that thing as a general thing for most people - if most people didn't like that thing, they wouldn't do it in the first place. |
Nathan H 04.02.2020 08:06 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: What an attention seeker. I very much doubt Freddie would have had an interest in Adam.How do you know? Were you close friends with Freddie for 20+ years? |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 08:17 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: What an attention seeker. I very much doubt Freddie would have had an interest in Adam. Attention seeking with terrible fashion.So being silly with the band on a boat is attention seeking to you, alrighty then lol. And is it important whether Freddie would have had an interest in him? Doesn't matter in the least as far as I can see. |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 08:18 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Funny how there's always tons of tweets every year saying it should be QAL from all these uninterested people. Funny how they're getting bigger every year as well yet people are apparently put off by him, doesn't seem to compute really!!!SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe the half-time show for Super Bowl LV in 2021? linkThe majority of those watching won’t be interested in Lambert at all... most would be put off. |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 09:41 |
runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
Iron Butterfly 04.02.2020 11:08 |
rockchic65 wrote:How many dates is it?runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
Vocal harmony 04.02.2020 12:38 |
rockchic65 wrote:How long before PrimeJive asks how many tickets have been sold ;))runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 20:56 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Don't know they haven't all been announced yet, there's some USA shows yet to be added.rockchic65 wrote:How many dates is it?runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 20:56 |
Double post |
Iron Butterfly 04.02.2020 22:52 |
rockchic65 wrote:Something tells me it will be short.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don't know they haven't all been announced yet, there's some USA shows yet to be added.rockchic65 wrote:How many dates is it?runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
rockchic65 04.02.2020 23:30 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Why's that?rockchic65 wrote:Something tells me it will be short.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don't know they haven't all been announced yet, there's some USA shows yet to be added.rockchic65 wrote:How many dates is it?runner_70 wrote: The solo tour wont happen and his album will bomb like his EP.Tour announced - you were saying? |
SweetCaroline 05.02.2020 04:56 |
The Velvet Tour link Wembley SSE is nothing to sneeze at. |
Iron Butterfly 05.02.2020 11:37 |
SweetCaroline wrote: The Velvet Tour link Wembley SSE is nothing to sneeze at.Short like I thought. Funny thing some people said he was suited more to Vegas than singing rock songs. Look at him now...but I'm sure he will still fit in a cover or two during these shows. |
Star* 05.02.2020 15:28 |
Asda got Adam Lambert's new "Velvet" album in but no one purchased a copy so the whole batch got took off display and sent back ! |
Nathan H 05.02.2020 16:01 |
I'm not a great fan of his solo music but to be honest I don't like a lot of modern music but he can sing and perform really well with pretty much every song he does so I'd rather see him live singing songs I love - that's why I quite like Q+AL. Seeing Brian and Roger perform love - the thing they enjoy the most about being musicians and seeing someone who has got the vocal capability to sing Queen songs. |
Star* 05.02.2020 16:29 |
Yes if you like your Queen songs insulted and turned into west end musical theatre by Adam then go for it but Queen started out as a hard rock band with Freddie not mushy musical theatre which is what Lambert has turned this band into. |
runner_70 05.02.2020 16:41 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:These German shows are tiny clubs. And not even those will sell out. Wonder what makes him think he will sell out Wembley Arena.SweetCaroline wrote: The Velvet Tour link Wembley SSE is nothing to sneeze at.Short like I thought. Funny thing some people said he was suited more to Vegas than singing rock songs. Look at him now...but I'm sure he will still fit in a cover or two during these shows. |
runner_70 05.02.2020 16:42 |
Young Music Fan wrote: and seeing someone who has got the vocal capability to sing Queen songs.The last one who had the capability to do that was a guy from Zanzibar |
MisterCosmicc 05.02.2020 16:45 |
Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances. |
runner_70 05.02.2020 16:48 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Me (but I find any QAL performance terrible. WWTLF is the prime example though that the guy has no clue how to perform a Queen song. No feeling , annoying oversinging with his paperthin shit voice. Same as WATC, or TSMGO or.....or..... (you can add any song here). WWTLF is the icing on the cake though when it comes to destroying the Queen catalogue |
Vocal harmony 05.02.2020 17:52 |
runner_70 wrote:From memory between 1200 and 1500, what size venues do you think accounts for 80 percent of live tours in Europe.Iron Butterfly wrote:These German shows are tiny clubs. And not even those will sell out. Wonder what makes him think he will sell out Wembley Arena.SweetCaroline wrote: The Velvet Tour link Wembley SSE is nothing to sneeze at.Short like I thought. Funny thing some people said he was suited more to Vegas than singing rock songs. Look at him now...but I'm sure he will still fit in a cover or two during these shows. Also the Amsterdam venue is somewhere between 5 and 6 thousand and Wembley is twice that. What makes you so factually knowledgeable about the number of tickets Lambert will or won't sell. Not every artist plays arenas or stadiums and even Queen back in the day didn't sellout every show. |
Nathan H 05.02.2020 18:13 |
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Nathan H 05.02.2020 18:14 |
If Freddie performed in similar circumstances as Adam does now, how do we know that he wouldn't perform as theatrical as Adam does with Queen? If you don't like him tough luck - hundreds of thousands of people obviously want to see Q+AL live otherwise they wouldn't be on a global tour. Just deal and respect Brian and Roger's decisions and stop complaining because it'll change nothing. Stop ruining it for those who want to as it's a free world, it's not a dictatorship. |
Star* 05.02.2020 18:30 |
Young Music Fan People are going to the shows because of Brian Nd Roger as they are the rock legends. Adam is just the singer helping them out. Lambert needs Queen more than Queen needs Lambert. |
anadamfan 05.02.2020 19:59 |
ST17 wrote: Young Music Fan People are going to the shows because of Brian Nd Roger as they are the rock legends. Adam is just the singer helping them out. Lambert needs Queen more than Queen needs Lambert.„People“? People go for very different reasons. Most go for the music, what else? (some are just accompanying parters). Some are Brian and/or Roger fans. Some are Adam fans. Some are both. Some are no particular fan at all and only casual music fans, who always wanted to see Queen. And others are longtime fans, who don’t care much about QAL, but want tosend a great night. Percentages differ from country to country and nigh5 to night. My bet is, that the particular Brian, Roger and Adam fans always are in the minority. |
anadamfan 05.02.2020 20:01 |
runner_70 wrote: These German shows are tiny clubs. And not even those will sell out.You are in for a surprise, my dear... (And since when do tiny clubs have a capacity of 1600? LOL) |
Nathan H 05.02.2020 20:53 |
ST17 wrote: Young Music Fan People are going to the shows because of Brian Nd Roger as they are the rock legends. Adam is just the singer helping them out. Lambert needs Queen more than Queen needs Lambert.I know, I go mainly because of Brian and Roger but I'm sure most are amazed by Adam's delivery - he is just not a singer but a performer. |
Iron Butterfly 05.02.2020 21:15 |
Young Music Fan wrote: If Freddie performed in similar circumstances as Adam does now, how do we know that he wouldn't perform as theatrical as Adam does with Queen? If you don't like him tough luck - hundreds of thousands of people obviously want to see Q+AL live otherwise they wouldn't be on a global tour. Just deal and respect Brian and Roger's decisions and stop complaining because it'll change nothing. Stop ruining it for those who want to as it's a free world, it's not a dictatorship.Freddie evolved in studio and onstage throughout his career. If Freddie toured after '86, I doubt he would have kept on wearing the crown and cape. How many years has AL been wearing the coronet now. |
Iron Butterfly 05.02.2020 21:19 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.I wouldn't call it a absolutely terrible, but I've never warmed up to him singing it. Almost as if AL is trying to show off, less is more even the Queen live version was so much better than Q+ALs version of it. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 21:52 |
ST17 wrote: Asda got Adam Lambert's new "Velvet" album in but no one purchased a copy so the whole batch got took off display and sent back !That's clever of em since it's not out yet. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 21:56 |
Young Music Fan wrote:Exactly, tweets and comments after the shows bear that out, there's always people who are astounded by him when they've not heard him before.ST17 wrote: Young Music Fan People are going to the shows because of Brian Nd Roger as they are the rock legends. Adam is just the singer helping them out. Lambert needs Queen more than Queen needs Lambert.I know, I go mainly because of Brian and Roger but I'm sure most are amazed by Adam's delivery - he is just not a singer but a performer. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 21:59 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Short like I thought. Funny thing some people said he was suited more to Vegas than singing rock songs. Look at him now...but I'm sure he will still fit in a cover or two during these shows.How can you tell when he's only announced some shows yet, the USA one's haven't been added and they only take him to September so he's the rest of the year to add shows other places, probably Australia, maybe Asia etc. As for Vegas there's tons of bands/musicians doing Vegas now, it's a sought after gig, and why shouldn't he throw in some covers if he wants, his fans have favourites they love him doing. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 22:02 |
runner_70 wrote: Wonder what makes him think he will sell out Wembley Arena.Artists get offered gigs by the promoter based on what they think will sell so he won't have decided to just do it. Lots of artists do arena's and block off parts anyway if they have more people wanting tickets than the smaller venues can hold, the venues are geared up for that since there's no in between sized venues in a lot of places. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 22:04 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. |
Iron Butterfly 05.02.2020 22:31 |
rockchic65 wrote:I'm going by what has been announced so far. But can you really imagine a lengthy AL solo tour? I can't to be honest.Iron Butterfly wrote: Short like I thought. Funny thing some people said he was suited more to Vegas than singing rock songs. Look at him now...but I'm sure he will still fit in a cover or two during these shows.How can you tell when he's only announced some shows yet, the USA one's haven't been added and they only take him to September so he's the rest of the year to add shows other places, probably Australia, maybe Asia etc. As for Vegas there's tons of bands/musicians doing Vegas now, it's a sought after gig, and why shouldn't he throw in some covers if he wants, his fans have favourites they love him doing. |
Iron Butterfly 05.02.2020 22:32 |
rockchic65 wrote:Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 22:34 |
ST17 wrote: Yes if you like your Queen songs insulted and turned into west end musical theatre by Adam then go for it but Queen started out as a hard rock band with Freddie not mushy musical theatre which is what Lambert has turned this band into.Have you actually listened to some Queen songs? They were never JUST a hard rock band and Freddie did plenty of singing that was delicate and not hard hitting. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 22:36 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Well he's in the minority where that song is concerned and knows zero about vocals if he thinks he's "screaming". There's plenty examples of Adam's "screams" but that song doesn't have em.rockchic65 wrote:Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. |
rockchic65 05.02.2020 22:38 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm going by what has been announced so far. But can you really imagine a lengthy AL solo tour? I can't to be honest.He books shows and announces them a few at a time as do QAL, he did that in 2015 and there's no reason to suppose this will be any different. Why wouldn't he add more shows after Sept, he loves touring, that's the whole point of putting music out. |
Star* 06.02.2020 08:36 |
Rockchic The majority of Queen's early work was heavy rock especially Queen Queen2 Sheer Heart Attack. Yes Freddie included the odd delicate little number but the many tracks were hard rock. |
Star* 06.02.2020 08:39 |
Adam's version of "Who Want's To Live Forever" is nothing compared to Freddie's power packed version with those incredible vocals, and he shows on that song why he he is the greatest male vocalist ever, no one comes close! |
Vocal harmony 06.02.2020 11:23 |
ST17 wrote: Adam's version of "Who Want's To Live Forever" is nothing compared to Freddie's power packed version with those incredible vocals, and he shows on that song why he he is the greatest male vocalist ever, no one comes close!If you're talking about the recorded version, I agree. But live Freddie couldn't sing it in its original key, Lambert does. Whether you like Lambert or his voice is another question. But in the case of his ability to perform he does do, with this song, something Freddie didn't or couldn't. |
Star* 06.02.2020 13:55 |
Freddie nailed that song on the Wembley Dvd so powerful and amazing even Adam could not beat that! |
anadamfan 06.02.2020 15:51 |
ST17 wrote: Freddie nailed that song on the Wembley Dvd so powerful and amazing even Adam could not beat that!Your opinion. Not mine. |
brENsKi 06.02.2020 15:57 |
ST17 wrote:Freddie nailed that song on the Wembley Dvd so powerful and amazing even Adam could not beat that!L@W is from the Saturday show? isn't the Saturday heavily dubbed? I was at the Saturday (12th July) gig, and there were definitely a few "issues". great gig, and performance, but not anywhere near "nailed" by any stretch. you do realise the DVD was overdubbed? - you need to download the original FM radio broadcast - and listen properly to Who Wants To Live Forever: Brian had dodgy moments on the guitar, and there's a few bum notes from Freddie too. actually, listen to the whole broadcast - as full-on as it was, it was far from perfect. the official audio/video releases are overdubbed to hell! |
Star* 06.02.2020 16:11 |
@Brenski Not sure which night at Wembley it was but Freddie's vocals were outstanding and that vocal was so powerful. A bit like when he warmed the audience up at Live Aid and that was not dubbed it was all Freddie ! Mercury blew everyone off that stage at Live Aid! |
brENsKi 06.02.2020 17:20 |
ST17 wrote:@Brenski Not sure which night at Wembley it was but Freddie's vocals were outstanding and that vocal was so powerful. A bit like when he warmed the audience up at Live Aid and that was not dubbed it was all Freddie ! Mercury blew everyone off that stage at Live Aid!you're changing direction again. you were talking about the wembley dvd. the DVD was overdubbed and (of course) every retail release is cleaned up and polished to within an inch of its life. the only fair representation of the wembley gig is the FM broadcast - because it couldn't be cleaned up or overdubbed on the fly, could it? |
Star* 06.02.2020 17:48 |
what i was getting at is you seem to put Freddie's vocal abilities down by saying "oh that was overdubbed" as though you are trying to say Freddie is a bad singer, but Live Aid proved Freddie is a brilliant singer and there was no gimmicks no lights just Queen and Freddie's powerful vocals. |
Holly2003 06.02.2020 17:49 |
Friday night version, presumably untouched in the studio. Powerful delivery indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOhuK7aZayw |
Star* 06.02.2020 17:51 |
Exactly but lord Brenski here in all his glory knows better than the rest of us on here! |
brENsKi 06.02.2020 18:12 |
ST17 wrote:Exactly but lord Brenski here in all his glory knows better than the rest of us on here!there's no need for the "Lord" thing - I was quoting your own words. Gerry, you said "Live At Wembley DVD" - the Live at wembley dvd tracklisting - see link link states Saturday full concert, while disc 2 includes a "Friday highlights medley" and FWIW - I didn't say you were wrong. I referred to L@W and asked if YOU were referring to the Saturday concert - and ended with a "?" - you replied you didn't know which. so I haven't said you were wrong. so why do you have to make the snidey comment? completely unwarranted. there's no need to be like that, is there? |
Holly2003 06.02.2020 18:17 |
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Wembley-25th-Anniversary-Deluxe/dp/B005EVVPUE/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Live+At+Wembley+Stadium&qid=1581012888&s=dvd&sr=1-2 25th anniversary version features both nights in their entirety. Maybe the first (or last?) time Queen productions offered a decent bonus dvd. |
Star* 06.02.2020 19:20 |
@Brenski i was not been snidey but you came across a bit like a teacher and that your word is final ! As Holly2003 said Friday nights Wembley was powerful so it must have been the Friday night gig were Freddie was on fire especially singing WWTLF mind blowing performance. |
MisterCosmicc 07.02.2020 03:09 |
rockchic65 wrote:Freddie would do the same damn thing, not sure why Lambert fans can’t agree Adam does it. It shows professionalism, honestly. Adam knows when or when not his voice will crack, and sings to prevent it. Compliment, but you have to accept he does things to prevent his voice from cracking. Every serious performer does.Iron Butterfly wrote:Well he's in the minority where that song is concerned and knows zero about vocals if he thinks he's "screaming". There's plenty examples of Adam's "screams" but that song doesn't have em.rockchic65 wrote:Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. As Freddie got older, he could sing out loudly in his low voice. That’s belting it out, something Adam doesn’t do. Maybe he will in a couple years, hey. Two of Adam’s worst singing traits... 1. Holding a steady note for a few seconds frequently throughout a song... it’s simply not hard to do. People who aren’t terribly diverse vocally do that. 2. Sticking his tongue out. That doesn’t make him sing better, it’s a gimmick he has. |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 04:50 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Adam holds notes because that's his singing style and saying it's not hard to do is daft, of course it's not if it's just a short hold but holding long notes is hard unless you have good breath control/support, nothing to do with being diverse but Adam is diverse as watching all the stuff he did prior to idol and since would show.rockchic65 wrote:Freddie would do the same damn thing, not sure why Lambert fans can’t agree Adam does it. It shows professionalism, honestly. Adam knows when or when not his voice will crack, and sings to prevent it. Compliment, but you have to accept he does things to prevent his voice from cracking. Every serious performer does. As Freddie got older, he could sing out loudly in his low voice. That’s belting it out, something Adam doesn’t do. Maybe he will in a couple years, hey. Two of Adam’s worst singing traits... 1. Holding a steady note for a few seconds frequently throughout a song... it’s simply not hard to do. People who aren’t terribly diverse vocally do that. 2. Sticking his tongue out. That doesn’t make him sing better, it’s a gimmick he has.Iron Butterfly wrote:Well he's in the minority where that song is concerned and knows zero about vocals if he thinks he's "screaming". There's plenty examples of Adam's "screams" but that song doesn't have em.rockchic65 wrote:Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. Sticking his tongue out allows him to hit high notes easier, he probably could sing them without and it's likely just become a habit that he does when not concentrating because that's how he learned to sing the high notes, so what, it's not a crime. Of course Adam knows does things to prevent vocal cracks, I've never said any different, he's a trained singer and his technique is designed for longevity, not sure who's denying that. Adam belts in mix mostly, that's far healthier than pulling chest the way Freddie did and Adam wouldn't have that weighty sound to his voice even if he belted in full chest (he does sometimes) since he has a totally different vocal timbre. Really don't get why people keep expecting him to sing the way Freddie did live, he never has and likely never will, why would he when he can sing his own way, his fans obvlously loved his voice in the first place so why would he change it to suit a few people who can't get past the fact he doesn't do what Freddie did. |
runner_70 07.02.2020 05:48 |
I do not care if it is technique or not: He sounds annoying and looks like a twat. I would laugh about him if he sang for example Stones songs. Too bad he is destroying the Queen catalogue with his ugly high pitched crap voice since 2012 sadly |
MisterCosmicc 07.02.2020 07:22 |
rockchic65 wrote:Adam holds those notes continulously, on like every fucking line. It's like his FUCKING TRADEMARK! Yes, it's NO TALENT, and holding an unflucuating note is common for those who have NO TALENT. Look at YouTube!MisterCosmicc wrote:Adam holds notes because that's his singing style and saying it's not hard to do is daft, of course it's not if it's just a short hold but holding long notes is hard unless you have good breath control/support, nothing to do with being diverse but Adam is diverse as watching all the stuff he did prior to idol and since would show. Sticking his tongue out allows him to hit high notes easier, he probably could sing them without and it's likely just become a habit that he does when not concentrating because that's how he learned to sing the high notes, so what, it's not a crime. Of course Adam knows does things to prevent vocal cracks, I've never said any different, he's a trained singer and his technique is designed for longevity, not sure who's denying that. Adam belts in mix mostly, that's far healthier than pulling chest the way Freddie did and Adam wouldn't have that weighty sound to his voice even if he belted in full chest (he does sometimes) since he has a totally different vocal timbre. Really don't get why people keep expecting him to sing the way Freddie did live, he never has and likely never will, why would he when he can sing his own way, his fans obvlously loved his voice in the first place so why would he change it to suit a few people who can't get past the fact he doesn't do what Freddie did.rockchic65 wrote:Freddie would do the same damn thing, not sure why Lambert fans can’t agree Adam does it. It shows professionalism, honestly. Adam knows when or when not his voice will crack, and sings to prevent it. Compliment, but you have to accept he does things to prevent his voice from cracking. Every serious performer does. As Freddie got older, he could sing out loudly in his low voice. That’s belting it out, something Adam doesn’t do. Maybe he will in a couple years, hey. Two of Adam’s worst singing traits... 1. Holding a steady note for a few seconds frequently throughout a song... it’s simply not hard to do. People who aren’t terribly diverse vocally do that. 2. Sticking his tongue out. That doesn’t make him sing better, it’s a gimmick he has.Iron Butterfly wrote:Well he's in the minority where that song is concerned and knows zero about vocals if he thinks he's "screaming". There's plenty examples of Adam's "screams" but that song doesn't have em.rockchic65 wrote:Well obviously not everyone, MisterCosmicc and are examples ;-).MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.Well that particular song is the one everyone says he sings brilliantly, even one's who don't really like him with Queen. He doesn't scream the notes at all on this song. Sticking his tongue out doesn't allow him to hit the high notes, that's your propaganda. YouTube the highest singing notes of the world, you won't find tongues sticking out. Stick your tongue out while singing a chorus, it makes you create a fake high voice like Adam does. If he didn't do that, he could belt it better. Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels. Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem! |
Nathan H 07.02.2020 08:35 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof. |
MisterCosmicc 07.02.2020 08:44 |
Young Music Fan wrote:Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.MisterCosmicc wrote: Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof. |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 10:20 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam, they've seen the QAL shows and think he's brilliant, doesn't seem to matter to them that he's not what you consider "rock", maybe they're open minded enough to appreciate what he is regardless of what you imagine that to be.Young Music Fan wrote:Go look up rock 'n' roll... generic Adam isn't part of that industry.MisterCosmicc wrote: Here's the thing. ADAM DOESN'T ROCK. He's NOT ROCK. That's the fucking problem!But the point we're trying to make is that it's your opinion. For many others people will disagree entirely with you. Don't make statements like this without accurate or liable proof. |
Iron Butterfly 07.02.2020 10:32 |
AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock. I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted. And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it. |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 10:54 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock. I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted. And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice. As to the tongue thing - link Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue. |
Iron Butterfly 07.02.2020 11:08 |
rockchic65 wrote:Pop music can use real instruments, Queen has a few examples, don't worry I won't say which songs.Iron Butterfly wrote: AL will never be a rocker to me. I can't name one solo song he has done that is in any way rock, let alone hard rock. Take his latest songs , that is nowhere near rock. I think pop and EDM is where his feet are firmly planted. And I've never seen a singer having to stick his tongue out to be able to reach high notes. I think AL is accustomed to doing it.His latest music is definitely not EDM it's pop/funk with distinct bass lines and real instruments, couldn't get further from EDM. No he has no actual hard rock songs on his albums but that doesn't mean he can't sing rock and rock covers a whole host of styles, they don't all sound like Freddie or Bon Jovi, rock is more about the way the songs are put together and instrumentation than about a paricular type of voice. As to the tongue thing - link Not all singers pull it as forward as Adam but it is a vocal technique and while I'm sure if he made a concious effort to stop doing it he's still be able to hit the notes no problem he's done it so long he'd have to be thinking all the time, why would he bother, most people couldn't care less about what he does with his tongue. I'm sorry again, but AL will never be a rocker singer to me, granted I think he's improved, but he's not there. I hate Bon Jovi with a passion, but I wouldn't even put him in that league. As for his tongue, some of his fans care alright, have you ever read fanfic? Omg. Anyways, I wish AL didn't have to do it. Or even do it at all. |
brENsKi 07.02.2020 11:33 |
rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word. |
Star* 07.02.2020 11:41 |
Nice one Brenski this will be interesting lol |
brENsKi 07.02.2020 12:38 |
brENsKi wrote:rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word. ST17 wrote:Nice one Brenski this will be interesting loljust being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up. it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:- 1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things. 2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians 3. less than a handful of people 4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL 5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65 my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5 |
Iron Butterfly 07.02.2020 13:04 |
brENsKi wrote:Will that include Brian and Roger? ;-)rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word. |
Vocal harmony 07.02.2020 13:29 |
MisterCosmicc Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels. !Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour. Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average. Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range. Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level. Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about. |
runner_70 07.02.2020 14:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote:There you have it again. Fucking Glamtarts visiting a QUEEN noticeboard and slamming Freddie for being not capable of singing properly while the asshat Lamebird is hyped to death. He lacked skill in 1979, one of those years (1979-1981 being his peak) where his voice completey peaked? And some fucking Glamtart asshole is coming to this board talking about Freddie being not capable of singing? How delusional can you fucking pricks get? You fucking tranny idol is not even a musician let alone a singer. He is an EMO screamer with a paperthin shit voice destroying others songs and making a career out of being a cover crooner. Gimme a break really. Hitting high notes is not equal to good singing. When I hear this tool yodeling at the end of TYMD like someone whose nuts get slapped I have to vomit.MisterCosmicc Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels. !Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour. Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average. Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range. Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level. Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about. And you really wonder why Glamtarts are hated on Queen boards?? Really???? Get the fuck out of here like sniff did. |
Holly2003 07.02.2020 14:41 |
Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life. |
Star* 07.02.2020 14:46 |
Well said Holly2003 i totally agree with you. Freddie was not keen on his vocals been corrected by technology and if he was around today he would be saddened by it. |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 18:55 |
Holly2003 wrote: Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.And that's the point and why it's ridiculous of some to keep comparing Freddie and Adam, they are completely different types of singers/artists and for people to keep expecting Adam to sing or perform like Freddie is as pointless as anyone expecting Freddie to have sung and performed like someone else. All artists have their strengths and weaknesses and make the best of what they have. |
runner_70 07.02.2020 18:58 |
rockchic65 wrote:We are still waiting for the arsenal of "a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adam" -enlighten us please!Holly2003 wrote: Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.And that's the point and why it's ridiculous of some to keep comparing Freddie and Adam, they are completely different types of singers/artists and for people to keep expecting Adam to sing or perform like Freddie is as pointless as anyone expecting Freddie to have sung and performed like someone else. All artists have their strengths and weaknesses and make the best of what they have. |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 20:11 |
brENsKi wrote:Mike Portnoy -Thank you @adamlambert for being the ONLY singer that could carry that torch (and doing it so incredibly well)brENsKi wrote:rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.ST17 wrote:Nice one Brenski this will be interesting loljust being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up. it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:- 1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things. 2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians 3. less than a handful of people 4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL 5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65 my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5 They could not have found a singer more talented to front the band than Adam Lambert. Jeff Scott Soto, "Quite possibly the best version of WWTLF, heard it sung tonight Queenwillrock AdamLambert. Alice Cooper, “I’ll tell you what the first time I saw Adam Lambert on Idol and your not gonna believe this I said that guy should sing for Queen”. Meatloaf, listen for yourself - link - the producer he mentions (Rob Cavallo) also thinks Adam is brilliant. Dee Snider replying to a question "are you supporting Adam Lambert, I'm lost tho I'm thrilled to see you tweeting" Dee "yes I am Adam Lambert has an amazing voice. Dee again "Being a DAY ONE - ALBUM ONE - TOUR ONE (opening for Mott the Hoople) Queen fan & worshipper of Freddie Mercury (not that my vocal style shows it)...I TOTALLY AGREE! adamlambert is the perfect replacement. Not an imitator, but respectful of the legacy with his own amazing voice! Rick Savage, Joe Elliot, "For me the absolute highlight of last Saturdays show at the 3Arena in Dublin was Queen and Adam Lambert playing that song. Unbelievable. The lights, the lasers, the sound, the performances of everybody on stage was absolutely top notch. If you haven't got a ticket yet, go see these guys. Legends of course we all know that. Adam Lambert will be the first to stand up and say he's no Fred, but my goodness one of the best live vocals I've ever heard. And Rick Savage who was sat next to me said exactly the same thing. Was Adam Lambert last week in Dublin." Slash - Has said he only went on Idol as a mentor because of hearing Adam sing. Rob Halford - my personal favourite - link James Michael "there's probably not a better male singer on the planet than Adam Lambert" Also listens to Adam with earbuds for half an hour before his shows to get in the headspace of vocal placement etc. Will they do for now? |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 20:12 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:No, B & R are a given and don't need me to repeat their comments.brENsKi wrote:Will that include Brian and Roger? ;-)rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word. |
AlbaNo1 07.02.2020 20:47 |
To be fair..that’s a good response |
Star* 07.02.2020 20:53 |
So why is it Adam never wins any best male vocalist awards in the UK then? Freddie nearly always wins greatest male vocalist so is it because many people associate Adam as a west end singer and not a rock / pop star? I and many others think Adam is the wrong fit for a 70s rock and roll band considering Adam's style of singing is a million miles away from rock & roll ? |
AlbaNo1 07.02.2020 21:15 |
I don’t know what you are so worried about. Freddie is considered a better singer and performer by almost everyone in the world, including AL himself. Even his songwriting alone puts him in the top echelon. He is an undisputed legend. That doesn’t mean some people can’t find something positive to say about Lambert. |
runner_70 07.02.2020 21:36 |
brENsKi wrote:OK those hordes of Metal Musicians are not even a dozen. Most of them praise the tool to get some free tickets and a VIP treat and are friends with Maylor. SLash hated the way he oversang and told him that during AIbrENsKi wrote:rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.ST17 wrote:Nice one Brenski this will be interesting loljust being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up. it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:- 1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things. 2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians 3. less than a handful of people 4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL 5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65 my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5 |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 22:06 |
runner_70 wrote:In case you didn't notice some of them were well before he teamed up with Brian & Roger and of the others if they're friends of Maylor then they don't need to be praising him to get free tickets they'll get them anyway. They certainly don't need to take to twitter and answer people about him they could just post a generic comment about the show being good and leave it at that. Slash didn't hate how he sang and they even kept in contact afterwards and were planning to do something together. Slash's comment was about using his lower register and it being really cool when he did that, he just said to not improvise so much in the high register.brENsKi wrote:OK those hordes of Metal Musicians are not even a dozen. Most of them praise the tool to get some free tickets and a VIP treat and are friends with Maylor. SLash hated the way he oversang and told him that during AIbrENsKi wrote:rockchic65 wrote:There's a whole host of "rock & metal" musicians who rate Adamname them. no, actually: quote them (ALL) word for word.ST17 wrote:Nice one Brenski this will be interesting loljust being objective. i think when people make definite statements they should back them up. it will be interesting to see if rockchic65's dictionary defines "a whole host" as:- 1. literally - as per correct meaning: A very large number or collection of people or things. 2. at least a dozen or so rock/metal musicians 3. less than a handful of people 4. nobody at all, but she once saw someone famous in the same room as AL 5. just the random imaginings of rockchic65 my guess? just a chance of 3, but more likely 4 or 5 |
rockchic65 07.02.2020 22:08 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: I don’t know what you are so worried about. Freddie is considered a better singer and performer by almost everyone in the world, including AL himself. Even his songwriting alone puts him in the top echelon. He is an undisputed legend. That doesn’t mean some people can’t find something positive to say about Lambert.Exactly, there's a weird dichotomy going on, on the one hand they're saying Adam's rubbish and doesn't fit Queen yet spending all their time defending Freddie as if Adam's gonna somehow usurp him in people's minds. As you point out even Adam is in awe of Freddie and doesn't put himself on the same level. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 01:29 |
rockchic65 wrote:The person who compares AL with Freddie more than anyone else here is SweetCaroline...right down to chest hair.AlbaNo1 wrote: I don’t know what you are so worried about. Freddie is considered a better singer and performer by almost everyone in the world, including AL himself. Even his songwriting alone puts him in the top echelon. He is an undisputed legend. That doesn’t mean some people can’t find something positive to say about Lambert.Exactly, there's a weird dichotomy going on, on the one hand they're saying Adam's rubbish and doesn't fit Queen yet spending all their time defending Freddie as if Adam's gonna somehow usurp him in people's minds. As you point out even Adam is in awe of Freddie and doesn't put himself on the same level. AL will never be anywhere near Freddie, that's a fact. We have some Glamberts here who would have people believe AL pretty much saved Brian's and Roger’s careers and helped Queen be even more popular, which is a load of crap. Brian and Roger hardly sat on their asses doing nothing before AL came along, and it's been pointed out Queen's music was always popular, well before AL. |
Nathan H 08.02.2020 12:24 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:But even more popular in the last three years. Stats can prove the sudden increase of streaming.rockchic65 wrote:The person who compares AL with Freddie more than anyone else here is SweetCaroline...right down to chest hair. AL will never be anywhere near Freddie, that's a fact. We have some Glamberts here who would have people believe AL pretty much saved Brian's and Roger’s careers and helped Queen be even more popular, which is a load of crap. Brian and Roger hardly sat on their asses doing nothing before AL came along, and it's been pointed out Queen's music was always popular, well before AL.AlbaNo1 wrote: I don’t know what you are so worried about. Freddie is considered a better singer and performer by almost everyone in the world, including AL himself. Even his songwriting alone puts him in the top echelon. He is an undisputed legend. That doesn’t mean some people can’t find something positive to say about Lambert.Exactly, there's a weird dichotomy going on, on the one hand they're saying Adam's rubbish and doesn't fit Queen yet spending all their time defending Freddie as if Adam's gonna somehow usurp him in people's minds. As you point out even Adam is in awe of Freddie and doesn't put himself on the same level. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 12:45 |
Young Music Fan wrote:That's not because of AL. I dare say the biopic has managed to get Queen new fans more than Q+AL has.Sorry, not sorry, Lambert isn't the reason for Queen's resurgence these last few years.Iron Butterfly wrote:But even more popular in the last three years. Stats can prove the sudden increase of streaming.rockchic65 wrote:The person who compares AL with Freddie more than anyone else here is SweetCaroline...right down to chest hair. AL will never be anywhere near Freddie, that's a fact. We have some Glamberts here who would have people believe AL pretty much saved Brian's and Roger’s careers and helped Queen be even more popular, which is a load of crap. Brian and Roger hardly sat on their asses doing nothing before AL came along, and it's been pointed out Queen's music was always popular, well before AL.AlbaNo1 wrote: I don’t know what you are so worried about. Freddie is considered a better singer and performer by almost everyone in the world, including AL himself. Even his songwriting alone puts him in the top echelon. He is an undisputed legend. That doesn’t mean some people can’t find something positive to say about Lambert.Exactly, there's a weird dichotomy going on, on the one hand they're saying Adam's rubbish and doesn't fit Queen yet spending all their time defending Freddie as if Adam's gonna somehow usurp him in people's minds. As you point out even Adam is in awe of Freddie and doesn't put himself on the same level. |
SweetCaroline 08.02.2020 14:28 |
It never ends! The only reason I have compared the two is when butt hurt Freddie fans attack Adam for his singing or what he wears on stage. Then I have pointed out some of the outrageous outfits Freddie wore back in the day. It doesn’t matter. That was then and this is now. Some people like to go around and around in circles and never get to the end. If Freddie was here and still performing no one would know who Adam is because none of this would have happened. |
Star* 08.02.2020 17:01 |
Oh the thought of that sounds amazing! |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 21:25 |
SweetCaroline wrote: It never ends! The only reason I have compared the two is when butt hurt Freddie fans attack Adam for his singing or what he wears on stage. Then I have pointed out some of the outrageous outfits Freddie wore back in the day. It doesn’t matter. That was then and this is now. Some people like to go around and around in circles and never get to the end. If Freddie was here and still performing no one would know who Adam is because none of this would have happened.Who are you trying to fool. You have often compared Freddie to Lambert, more than anyone else here. Even with the chest hair aspect of it, as if one was better than the other. You don't know the first thing about Freddie, if you did, you would know how much he evolved through the years in many ways. Musically, fashion wise, he was never stuck doing just one look or sound. Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways. |
rockchic65 08.02.2020 21:51 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways.Well Queen fans on a Queen board wouldn't know about him but plenty other people would. Adam's career is doing fine, not everyone is destined to be an Elvis or Freddie but there's plenty artists out there doing their thing and having a great career, being a legend isn't a necessity. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 21:57 |
rockchic65 wrote:How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music?Iron Butterfly wrote: Damn right if Freddie was still here, and performing one would know about AL. That should tell you something how AL's career is lacking in many ways.Well Queen fans on a Queen board wouldn't know about him but plenty other people would. Adam's career is doing fine, not everyone is destined to be an Elvis or Freddie but there's plenty artists out there doing their thing and having a great career, being a legend isn't a necessity. Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy. |
rockchic65 08.02.2020 22:09 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music? Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy.You've absolutely no way to know that, he was already doing fine before teaming up with Brian & Roger and pleny people knew about him so if he hadn't started touring with them he'd have just concetrated more on his solo career and other opportunities. He's not more known for singing Queen songs at all, he sings WITH Queen but he's known for doing his own solo stuff in between and yeah he does the odd cover for special events like the Kennedy Center, so do lots of artists. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 22:16 |
rockchic65 wrote:I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started.Iron Butterfly wrote: How many would know about him, given that he is better known for singing Queen songs and cover songs than his own music? Yea, he's doing fine, but he would not be where is now without the Queen legacy.You've absolutely no way to know that, he was already doing fine before teaming up with Brian & Roger and pleny people knew about him so if he hadn't started touring with them he'd have just concetrated more on his solo career and other opportunities. He's not more known for singing Queen songs at all, he sings WITH Queen but he's known for doing his own solo stuff in between and yeah he does the odd cover for special events like the Kennedy Center, so do lots of artists. Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious. He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference. |
rockchic65 08.02.2020 22:44 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started. Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious. He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference.People knew of him before QAL, he was touring the world solo and even won favourite international artist of the year in China, his albums charted at No 3, 1 and 3 and was invited to various events to speak or perform relating to LGBT issues. Just because he sings with Brian & Roger (and they are still part of Queen hence it's called Queen +) doesn't mean he's more known for singing Queen songs, plenty fans are more interested in his solo work and solo tours than the Queen stuff and he's known for both and lots of other stuff as well. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 23:16 |
rockchic65 wrote:His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.Iron Butterfly wrote: I do t think many people knew of him before Q+AL started. Yes, he is known own more for singing Queen songs than his solo music, that's pretty obvious. He sings with Brian and Roger, not with Queen, big difference.People knew of him before QAL, he was touring the world solo and even won favourite international artist of the year in China, his albums charted at No 3, 1 and 3 and was invited to various events to speak or perform relating to LGBT issues. Just because he sings with Brian & Roger (and they are still part of Queen hence it's called Queen +) doesn't mean he's more known for singing Queen songs, plenty fans are more interested in his solo work and solo tours than the Queen stuff and he's known for both and lots of other stuff as well. |
rockchic65 08.02.2020 23:40 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality. |
Iron Butterfly 08.02.2020 23:54 |
rockchic65 wrote:Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted.Iron Butterfly wrote: His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality. I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing". AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 00:04 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:What's groundbreaking meant to mean then? You implied his tours weren't groundbreaking, don't really know how a tour could be, all artists tour it's commonplace and he toured solo for six months doing 110 shows coming off Idol so he was doing well considering what a lot of artists from those shows end up doing.rockchic65 wrote:Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted. I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing". AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic.Iron Butterfly wrote: His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality. He was already known, has he been exposed to more people yes and some have become fans but then he's won fans who've seen him on TV show etc which have nothing to do with Queen so it's not all down to that. Touring live with a band is very different from doing a covers album, he likes touring with Brian & Roger and singing Queen music but when he's doing his solo stuff he wants it to be original, why would he want to tour covering music and then record an album of covers as well? Nothing ironic about it they're completely different things. And why would he not change labels when they made it clear it was a cover album or nothing? Doesn't matter now anyway, he's gone indie and is free to do whatever he wants and that suits him far better than having to dance to the labels tune. |
SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 04:46 |
I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania. |
MisterCosmicc 09.02.2020 04:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.You idolize him too much, like a Trump Worshipper worships Trump. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 05:34 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Or a Trump hater who hates Trump.SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.You idolize him too much, like a Trump Worshipper worships Trump. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 05:45 |
rockchic65 wrote:Sorry, missed your post earlier.Iron Butterfly wrote:What's groundbreaking meant to mean then? You implied his tours weren't groundbreaking, don't really know how a tour could be, all artists tour it's commonplace and he toured solo for six months doing 110 shows coming off Idol so he was doing well considering what a lot of artists from those shows end up doing. He was already known, has he been exposed to more people yes and some have become fans but then he's won fans who've seen him on TV show etc which have nothing to do with Queen so it's not all down to that. Touring live with a band is very different from doing a covers album, he likes touring with Brian & Roger and singing Queen music but when he's doing his solo stuff he wants it to be original, why would he want to tour covering music and then record an album of covers as well? Nothing ironic about it they're completely different things. And why would he not change labels when they made it clear it was a cover album or nothing? Doesn't matter now anyway, he's gone indie and is free to do whatever he wants and that suits him far better than having to dance to the labels tune.rockchic65 wrote:Please don't resort to twisting things I've not even posted. I said it wasn't groundbreaking, not that it wasn't " nothing". AL owes a heck of alot because of the Queen connections, fact. Where would he be without it, I'd assume he'd be lesser known. Since Q+AL started he hasn't managed to satay with the same record company. I think it's funny he didn't want to do an album of cover songs but he's been touring with Brian and Roger singing Queen songs for years now. It's a bit ironic.Iron Butterfly wrote: His Glamberts knew, it was hardly groundbreaking solo tours that he did solo wise. The Queen legacy is what pretty much got his name out there. Otherwise he'd be known as the runner up for America Idol, and a career that very likely would not have lasted this long, if not for the Queen connections. See what I'm getting at.So doing 110 shows all over the world on his first solo tour was nothing? Do you know how many artists from those shows actually get to tour internationally? Not many is the answer. He's always been known as the runner up on AI but that doesn't mean his career wouldn't have lasted, he was offered lots of opportunites early on and that likely would have continued if he'd not been tied up touring a lot of the time. The Queen connection isn't what gets him unrelated gigs, the majority of the stuff he's done has had nothing to do with Queen so you've no way to know if he'd have been asked to do those things without ever having worked with them. The fact is no one knows or could know because he did work with Queen so it's all speculation whichever way you look at it and pointless speculation in reality. Since you ask, groundbreaking , means innovative, sorry his solo shows and tours were hardly that, not even close really. I can't name one Glamnation show that stood out. Yea, he was known in some circles before Q+AL as three things.The guy who was a runner up on Idol, the guy who kissed his same sex band mates on an awards show, and his Rolling Stone cover. I wouldn't call myself a Glambert, but I watched his season of Idol. I do find detailed it ironic as heck it's said that he didn't want to do an album of 80's covers, but has toured with Brian and Roger for the better part of a decade now. I don't think AL is as "free" as you might think or hope. Like I've said before, the lines are blurred between his solove music and Q+AL. I think he is a very odd place these last two or three years. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 05:50 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t know if that 110 show international tour was groundbreaking but after the rough start he got at the AMA show, it was a good way to start over. His glam nation shows were mesmerizing and I saw 3 of them in Ohio and Pennsylvania.No, they weren't groundbreaking at all. I used to be a 90s dance music fan, I had lots of those type of concerts on VHS ( aww, good times LOL ) and AL's early shows reminded me of those. Even some of his shows during TOH reminded me of it. There is not an AL solo tour I'd call groundbreaking. And yes I'm judging that by what I've seen on YouTube. |
SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 06:54 |
Icy have you ever been to a LIVE show for anyone? It is a whole different experience than watching on TV or DVD or YouTube. I repeat Adam’s glamnation shows were mesmerizing. And the audience went bonkers for him at the American Idol summer tour I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love. |
runner_70 09.02.2020 07:12 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love.So even in 2009 he was known for being a cover crooner. And WLL sounds even worse than those Queensongs this tool butchered. 11 years later his solo career has tanked he releases shitty dance pop that does not sell and is doing Queen covers |
SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 07:27 |
Here you go, a “groundbreaking” video of the last American Idol Season 8 summer tour show (#50) in 2009 — never saw this before: link |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 07:31 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Icy have you ever been to a LIVE show for anyone? It is a whole different experience than watching on TV or DVD or YouTube. I repeat Adam’s glamnation shows were mesmerizing. And the audience went bonkers for him at the American Idol summer tour I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love.Yes, Gordon Bamford a few years back when he played locally. Why do you bother posting streams, videos so much since you don't think people who dont, or can't attend that their views don't matter? I'm not sure you say his shows were mesmerizing, I used to watch every clip of his shows that you used to post. Seriously, it looked low budget and not anything I'd call mesmerizing. AL sang covers then, as he does now. Shocker. He depends on covers way too much. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 07:36 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Here you go, a “groundbreaking” video of the last American Idol Season 8 summer tour show (#50) in 2009 — never saw this before: linkI'm sure you posted that before on QOL, you have often posted videos by that person. Anyways, how could that ever be called groundbreaking how exactly?? Looks like the earth was shaking...and not in a good way considering the camera shaking so much. Sorry, SweetCaroline, this isn't groundbreaking, surely you are taking the piss right now. If you aren't, then explain why that video is groundbreaking. It's basically shit, all of it. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 08:39 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Sorry, missed your post earlier. Since you ask, groundbreaking , means innovative, sorry his solo shows and tours were hardly that, not even close really. I can't name one Glamnation show that stood out. Yea, he was known in some circles before Q+AL as three things.The guy who was a runner up on Idol, the guy who kissed his same sex band mates on an awards show, and his Rolling Stone cover. I wouldn't call myself a Glambert, but I watched his season of Idol. I do find detailed it ironic as heck it's said that he didn't want to do an album of 80's covers, but has toured with Brian and Roger for the better part of a decade now. I don't think AL is as "free" as you might think or hope. Like I've said before, the lines are blurred between his solove music and Q+AL. I think he is a very odd place these last two or three years.The lines aren't blurred at all, he tours with B & R in short stints as a guest frontman and then goes back to his own life doing whatever he chooses be it recording music, doing tv appearances and anything else that comes his way that he feels like doing, it's called having a career that's diverse, nothing odd about that. I call not wanting to RECORD covers and touring with an actual legendary band singing their music but in his own way completely different things, getting on stage with a live band and an audience and interacting in that way with amazing music to sing is fun and enjoyable. Standing in a recording booth singing a bunch of cover songs you have no connection to with no band and audience to bounce off and interact and have fun with sounds boring and not what someone who likes to be creative would find remotely fun. He gets to have the joy of touring with B & R for six weeks at a time and the creative satisfaction of creating and recording his own music (doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks of his music) he's just happy doing it and then all the other stuff he does in between. As to his glamnation tour there might not be anything that stands out to you but then you aren't the target audience, you arent a glambert and haven't seen him live so no idea how you would even know how good he was or what would be a stand out show. Did you watch a complete video of every single glamnation show to come to that conclusion? I know his fans record stuff but I doubt there's many if any full show videos out there of his glamnation tour, in fact I just had a look and all I could find is individual songs recorded so if you know where I can find the full show recordings I'd appreciate a heads up, I'd like to see some since I've never watched much of the glam nation stuff. As to being free, he wasn't in the past with the labels trying to make him something he's not but he's definitely free to do whatever he wants now. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 08:43 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Yes, Gordon Bamford a few years back when he played locally. Why do you bother posting streams, videos so much since you don't think people who dont, or can't attend that their views don't matter? I'm not sure you say his shows were mesmerizing, I used to watch every clip of his shows that you used to post. Seriously, it looked low budget and not anything I'd call mesmerizing. AL sang covers then, as he does now. Shocker. He depends on covers way too much.He sang covers on the Idol tour since he hadn't any of his own music to sing at that point and when he did glamnation he had one album out so unless he was gonna do a very short set he would have to put covers in as well, would have thought pretty obvious really. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 08:44 |
runner_70 wrote:In 2009 he was a new artist straight off Idol with no music of his own out so I don't really know what you would expect him to be singing at that point.SweetCaroline wrote: I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love.So even in 2009 he was known for being a cover crooner. And WLL sounds even worse than those Queensongs this tool butchered. 11 years later his solo career has tanked he releases shitty dance pop that does not sell and is doing Queen covers |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 09:33 |
rockchic65 wrote:Could he have written his own song before going on tour? Sure, he could have, but he didnt6 for whatever reason/s, no time maybe? Actullay all that video proved is how inexperienced he was.Iron Butterfly wrote: Yes, Gordon Bamford a few years back when he played locally. Why do you bother posting streams, videos so much since you don't think people who dont, or can't attend that their views don't matter? I'm not sure you say his shows were mesmerizing, I used to watch every clip of his shows that you used to post. Seriously, it looked low budget and not anything I'd call mesmerizing. AL sang covers then, as he does now. Shocker. He depends on covers way too much.He sang covers on the Idol tour since he hadn't any of his own music to sing at that point and when he did glamnation he had one album out so unless he was gonna do a very short set he would have to put covers in as well, would have thought pretty obvious really. A shorter set would have been better with his own music than the Zeppelin WLL cover for example. That was atrocious, IMO. Don't know why he chose that one to cover. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 09:47 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Everyone loved that cover including B & R, it's the one that got him the attention of Spike on the show and started the whole QAL thing so while you might not like it he was doing it for the multitude of fans who did love it and there were loads, lots of his fans wanted him to go in a rock direction so doing rock covers like WLL and Purple Haze were a good idea to offset the more poppy stuff.rockchic65 wrote:Could he have written his own song before going on tour? Sure, he could have, but he didnt6 for whatever reason/s, no time maybe? Actullay all that video proved is how inexperienced he was. A shorter set would have been better with his own music than the Zeppelin WLL cover for example. That was atrocious, IMO. Don't know why he chose that one to cover.Iron Butterfly wrote: Yes, Gordon Bamford a few years back when he played locally. Why do you bother posting streams, videos so much since you don't think people who dont, or can't attend that their views don't matter? I'm not sure you say his shows were mesmerizing, I used to watch every clip of his shows that you used to post. Seriously, it looked low budget and not anything I'd call mesmerizing. AL sang covers then, as he does now. Shocker. He depends on covers way too much.He sang covers on the Idol tour since he hadn't any of his own music to sing at that point and when he did glamnation he had one album out so unless he was gonna do a very short set he would have to put covers in as well, would have thought pretty obvious really. No he couldn't have made his own song before the Idol tour, there's a process involved when you get off those shows, the winner has a song written for them and recorded before the show ends and that's the one they have to put out, the rest who go on the tour cover songs since they haven't had time to get in the studio with their label and producers and start the process of recording. Adam actually recorded his first album in 3 months while doing the Idol tour so he would have new music out and could put together his own tour straight away after. Why would an artist do a short set (pretty sure the fans would be pissed if that happened after they'd paid to see you) instead of filling up the set with covers. He did the majority of stuff off the album and threw in a few covers, as he got more albums out he did less covers and changed them up a bit, it's what people do. Incidentally here's a list of some of the covers Queen did in their shows and they did already have plenty of solo music out, maybe artists sometimes like to do covers. Jailhouse Rock Tutti Frutti Shake, Rattle and Roll Stupid Cupid Big Spender Bama Lama Bama Loo You're So Square Hello Mary Lou Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin On |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 09:52 |
rockchic65 wrote:I don't know how you can say the lines are blurred when it is. When he tours with Brian and Roger, he gets asked a out his solo music, and vice versa. What stood out to me in a big way is at one time last year he said he wanted to catch Queen fans ears. I don't think he's managed to do so.Iron Butterfly wrote: Sorry, missed your post earlier. Since you ask, groundbreaking , means innovative, sorry his solo shows and tours were hardly that, not even close really. I can't name one Glamnation show that stood out. Yea, he was known in some circles before Q+AL as three things.The guy who was a runner up on Idol, the guy who kissed his same sex band mates on an awards show, and his Rolling Stone cover. I wouldn't call myself a Glambert, but I watched his season of Idol. I do find detailed it ironic as heck it's said that he didn't want to do an album of 80's covers, but has toured with Brian and Roger for the better part of a decade now. I don't think AL is as "free" as you might think or hope. Like I've said before, the lines are blurred between his solove music and Q+AL. I think he is a very odd place these last two or three years.The lines aren't blurred at all, he tours with B & R in short stints as a guest frontman and then goes back to his own life doing whatever he chooses be it recording music, doing tv appearances and anything else that comes his way that he feels like doing, it's called having a career that's diverse, nothing odd about that. I call not wanting to RECORD covers and touring with an actual legendary band singing their music but in his own way completely different things, getting on stage with a live band and an audience and interacting in that way with amazing music to sing is fun and enjoyable. Standing in a recording booth singing a bunch of cover songs you have no connection to with no band and audience to bounce off and interact and have fun with sounds boring and not what someone who likes to be creative would find remotely fun. He gets to have the joy of touring with B & R for six weeks at a time and the creative satisfaction of creating and recording his own music (doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks of his music) he's just happy doing it and then all the other stuff he does in between. As to his glamnation tour there might not be anything that stands out to you but then you aren't the target audience, you arent a glambert and haven't seen him live so no idea how you would even know how good he was or what would be a stand out show. Did you watch a complete video of every single glamnation show to come to that conclusion? I know his fans record stuff but I doubt there's many if any full show videos out there of his glamnation tour, in fact I just had a look and all I could find is individual songs recorded so if you know where I can find the full show recordings I'd appreciate a heads up, I'd like to see some since I've never watched much of the glam nation stuff. As to being free, he wasn't in the past with the labels trying to make him something he's not but he's definitely free to do whatever he wants now. Not wanting to record an album of covers, then turning around singing covers with Brian and Roger, for the better part of a decade is quite something. Maybe Brian and Roger pay him more than a cover album was likely to do. Who were the target audience of the Glamnation tour? The ones who watched him on Idol and voted for him? Well, I watched his season although I didn't vote for him, at the time IIRC, I don't think Canadian were able to phone in to vote. I watched his season and didn't fall for him, or think he looked like Elvis right away when I first saw him. There actually used to be videos of his shows on YouTube, not sure if they are still there, I'm not going to bother looking maybe later on Sunday I will look and let you know ( it's 2.52 am here ), and nor do I need to see the videos here. If I believe some of what the AL and Glamberts said, I'd believe RCA and Warner were making him do stuff. At the end of the day it was down to AL and still is down to AL to tour with Brian and Roger. I still think he puts Q+AL before his solo music. You say he can do whatever he wants to do now, but can he really? |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 09:56 |
rockchic65 wrote:Well, I didn't love the cover, so much for everyone right there ;-).Iron Butterfly wrote:Everyone loved that cover including B & R, it's the one that got him the attention of Spike on the show and started the whole QAL thing so while you might not like it he was doing it for the multitude of fans who did love it and there were loads, lots of his fans wanted him to go in a rock direction so doing rock covers like WLL and Purple Haze were a good idea to offset the more poppy stuff. No he couldn't have made his own song before the Idol tour, there's a process involved when you get off those shows, the winner has a song written for them and recorded before the show ends and that's the one they have to put out, the rest who go on the tour cover songs since they haven't had time to get in the studio with their label and producers and start the process of recording. Adam actually recorded his first album in 3 months while doing the Idol tour so he would have new music out and could put together his own tour straight away after. Why would an artist do a short set (pretty sure the fans would be pissed if that happened after they'd paid to see you) instead of filling up the set with covers. He did the majority of stuff off the album and threw in a few covers, as he got more albums out he did less covers and changed them up a bit, it's what people do. Incidentally here's a list of some of the covers Queen did in their shows and they did already have plenty of solo music out, maybe artists sometimes like to do covers. Jailhouse Rock Tutti Frutti Shake, Rattle and Roll Stupid Cupid Big Spender Bama Lama Bama Loo You're So Square Hello Mary Lou Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin Onrockchic65 wrote:Could he have written his own song before going on tour? Sure, he could have, but he didnt6 for whatever reason/s, no time maybe? Actullay all that video proved is how inexperienced he was. A shorter set would have been better with his own music than the Zeppelin WLL cover for example. That was atrocious, IMO. Don't know why he chose that one to cover.Iron Butterfly wrote: Yes, Gordon Bamford a few years back when he played locally. Why do you bother posting streams, videos so much since you don't think people who dont, or can't attend that their views don't matter? I'm not sure you say his shows were mesmerizing, I used to watch every clip of his shows that you used to post. Seriously, it looked low budget and not anything I'd call mesmerizing. AL sang covers then, as he does now. Shocker. He depends on covers way too much.He sang covers on the Idol tour since he hadn't any of his own music to sing at that point and when he did glamnation he had one album out so unless he was gonna do a very short set he would have to put covers in as well, would have thought pretty obvious really. Oh dear. I know Queen did covers, I was talking about AL, not Queen. Why turn it around? Careful mentioning Queen in here, snifflese doesn't like that at all. |
Holly2003 09.02.2020 09:58 |
WWL + Lambert = elevator muzak. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 10:10 |
Double post |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 10:12 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: I don't know how you can say the lines are blurred when it is. When he tours with Brian and Roger, he gets asked a out his solo music, and vice versa. What stood out to me in a big way is at one time last year he said he wanted to catch Queen fans ears. I don't think he's managed to do so. Not wanting to record an album of covers, then turning around singing covers with Brian and Roger, for the better part of a decade is quite something. Maybe Brian and Roger pay him more than a cover album was likely to do. Who were the target audience of the Glamnation tour? The ones who watched him on Idol and voted for him? Well, I watched his season although I didn't vote for him, at the time IIRC, I don't think Canadian were able to phone in to vote. I watched his season and didn't fall for him, or think he looked like Elvis right away when I first saw him. There actually used to be videos of his shows on YouTube, not sure if they are still there, I'm not going to bother looking maybe later on Sunday I will look and let you know ( it's 2.52 am here ), and nor do I need to see the videos here. If I believe some of what the AL and Glamberts said, I'd believe RCA and Warner were making him do stuff. At the end of the day it was down to AL and still is down to AL to tour with Brian and Roger. I still think he puts Q+AL before his solo music. You say he can do whatever he wants to do now, but can he really?Of course he's gonna get asked about Queen and vice versa in interviews, that's a given, it would be ridiculous at this point if he weren't asked about the two separate projects. If you can't see the difference between touring in alive band and recording music in a studio then I don't know what to tell you, there's a massive difference and I'm certain any actual musician would agree. He doesn't need to be paid more it's about artistic integrity and what you feel interested in doing and a New Wave covers album was definitely not what he wanted to do. His target audience are fans of which you aren't one (by your own admission just now). There's plenty of bands and artists out there I'm not a fan of so I'm not their target audience and they aren't playing songs to please me they're playing to please their fans. I might think what they do is rubbish but their fans will love it so for me to say they shouldn't do a song because I think they do it bad would be utterly pointless, they should absolutely do any song they choose if their fans love it, I'm completely irrelevant to the equation. RCA & Warner were calling the shots to some extent, he dug his heels in on some points but at the end of the day when you have a label investing money you can't just dictate everything. Why wouldn't he be able to do whatever he wants now when he has no actual label investing money, he's recently changed management so he likely has even more say in what he does when since it's Shosh's company (who's also his publicist) and he has a distribution company but he decides how and when the music is released and in what format etc. He executive produced the album as well so yeah I'd say he has all the freedom he wants on this project. How anyone can think he's putting QAL before his solo stuff at the moment is beyond me, he spent about 8 weeks of the entire year with QAL last year and the rest was all about his solo projects. He's worked out his schedule for the entire 2020, solo stuff between end of Feb and May then QAL until July then the rest of the year free for more solo stuff, out of last year and this that makes a whole lot more of his time solo related than QAL. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 10:20 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, I didn't love the cover, so much for everyone right there ;-). Oh dear. I know Queen did covers, I was talking about AL, not Queen. Why turn it around? Careful mentioning Queen in here, snifflese doesn't like that at all.So you think it's ok to go on and on about Adam doing covers but when someone points out other artists also do covers including Queen that's not ok? Not turning anything around just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument, you can't have it both ways, you can't berate Adam for doing what tons of other artists do and not expect an example of the double standard you're applying. As I pointed out you didn't love the cover but then you aren't a fan of his, plenty people did love it and he sang it for them. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 10:37 |
rockchic65 wrote:Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better?Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, I didn't love the cover, so much for everyone right there ;-). Oh dear. I know Queen did covers, I was talking about AL, not Queen. Why turn it around? Careful mentioning Queen in here, snifflese doesn't like that at all.So you think it's ok to go on and on about Adam doing covers but when someone points out other artists also do covers including Queen that's not ok? Not turning anything around just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument, you can't have it both ways, you can't berate Adam for doing what tons of other artists do and not expect an example of the double standard you're applying. As I pointed out you didn't love the cover but then you aren't a fan of his, plenty people did love it and he sang it for them. Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two. Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan. I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 11:05 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better? Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two. Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan. I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.I'm not twisting anything I'm sticking to facts and the facts are that plenty of artists including Queen do covers during live shows. In 1973 Queen did five covers during the show and one again as a reprise (Jailhouse Rock). I'm not comparing them doing covers I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of calling one artist for doing something and giving another a free pass to another for the exact same thing, that's nothing to do with comparing. Adam is touring WITH QAL as their frontman, that's not doing covers the same way as an artist covering others in their own show, how on earth can you not make that distinction? Liking the odd song of an artist is not being a fan per se, there's plenty one off songs by artists I like but would never class myself was a fan of them in general and by that I mean I don't follow their career, don't watch their vids on YT and don't go to see them live and don't invest any time or energy in knowing or caring what they're up to all the time. Adam has die hard fans who follow his career closely, who go to shows, who love most of what he does and they're the fans he's entertaining so if he does things other people don't care for it doesn't matter, they aren't the audience his shows and music is aimed at. No idea how that comment could be construed as a glambert tactic. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 11:39 |
rockchic65 wrote:You did twist things that wasn't even in my posts, it's there what we both said. I never even said it wasn't ok to point out that other artists, including Queen did covers as well. I'm well aware. One of my favorite bands recently did a Queen cover...one, not heavily relying on doing them.Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better? Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two. Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan. I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.I'm not twisting anything I'm sticking to facts and the facts are that plenty of artists including Queen do covers during live shows. In 1973 Queen did five covers during the show and one again as a reprise (Jailhouse Rock). I'm not comparing them doing covers I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of calling one artist for doing something and giving another a free pass to another for the exact same thing, that's nothing to do with comparing. Adam is touring WITH QAL as their frontman, that's not doing covers the same way as an artist covering others in their own show, how on earth can you not make that distinction? Liking the odd song of an artist is not being a fan per se, there's plenty one off songs by artists I like but would never class myself was a fan of them in general and by that I mean I don't follow their career, don't watch their vids on YT and don't go to see them live and don't invest any time or energy in knowing or caring what they're up to all the time. Adam has die hard fans who follow his career closely, who go to shows, who love most of what he does and they're the fans he's entertaining so if he does things other people don't care for it doesn't matter, they aren't the audience his shows and music is aimed at. No idea how that comment could be construed as a glambert tactic. I stand by that I think AL relies heavily on doing covers songs. I'm also osteoporosis certain need will include a cover or two in his upcoming solo shows. Maybe even a Queen one; -). AL does sing covers with Brian and Roger. Genuine question, what makes an AL fan in your opinion? I don't blindly support everything an artist does. Nor do I dig and share personal info about my favorite artists. I'm not a glambert or even an AL fan compared to some people. I'm ok with that. I say what I don't like, and I say what I do like, goes for every artist. I think I would actually put AL in my top 150 artists of the last few years. There is much more music I like more than him, guess what, I'm ok with that too. That might not make a fan in your eyes so be it. Glambert tactics, there are two people here who purposely twist things that I don't say in my posts, it must be a kick i guess. Glambert tactics are the ones who say I'm not an AL fan. They do that trying to make me look bad. I know we disagree rockchic, but at least discuss or debate what in actullay in my posts. It's a well worn tactic of the two Glamberts here to twist as much as possible about me, I almost am sure someone will come along to say I hate AL, I'm negative etc. BTW, I went and looked. On youtube there is a documentary of sorts about AL's glamnation tour, there's a catch, it has to be paid to be able to see it. I've not watched it, so I can't tell you what is in it. There is also a playlist of the Glamnation tour from Indianapolis from 2010, it's in parts however. |
Star* 09.02.2020 12:37 |
Glambert's need help ! |
Saint Jiub 09.02.2020 13:05 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Icy have you ever been to a LIVE show for anyone? It is a whole different experience than watching on TV or DVD or YouTube. I repeat Adam’s glamnation shows were mesmerizing. And the audience went bonkers for him at the American Idol summer tour I went to in 2009 when he performed a Bowie medley, Starlight and Whole Lotta Love.fuck off bitch |
Vocal harmony 09.02.2020 13:36 |
Holly2003 wrote: Fred didn't have to be perfect every night. He was a rock singer in a rock band. His job was to put on a show, make good music, energise the crowd etc. It wasn't his job to win a singing contest every night so that people 30 years later could point out every wrong note. I doubt anyone else will ever match what Fred achieved in his life.Absolutely agree, my three favourite front men from back then were Freddie, Steve Perry and David Lee Roth. Roth had an amazing hold over an audience, both with Van Halen and the tours around his first two solo albums, but he was probably the worst singer fronting an arena band ever. Did that matter? Not if you were a fan and went to and enjoyed the shows. Steve Perry was amazing because of his voice, he was able to perform at a level most could only look too. And Freddie who was amazing at while playing on big stages to huge audience could some how bring the whole venue close to him, how did he do that? No idea. It was the opposite of Roth or mayb Paul Stanley who created a huge party atmosphere and made them selves the centre of it. Freddie had an incredible voice but wan always able to deliver his full range but always delivered a full performance. As I said I agree with what you say, however someone keeps comparing two singers and when that comparison becomes about actual singing then becomes more than just how they perform a show. |
Vocal harmony 09.02.2020 14:00 |
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SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 14:06 |
Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song. rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour. |
Star* 09.02.2020 14:07 |
To end this dispute Freddie has won many many polls as the greatest male singer ever, even if he never had vocal training so just shows you do not need vocal coaches to be the worlds best, and Freddie is proof of that one. Mercury will be forever loved and adored as a rock n roll legend where as Adam will not get the accolades Freddie rightfully got. For a start Adam is only a Z-lister living the rock n roll lifestyle thanks to crazy Brian May. |
Vocal harmony 09.02.2020 14:18 |
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Vocal harmony 09.02.2020 14:18 |
runner_70 wrote:Replying at your level and using phrases you like. . .Vocal harmony wrote:There you have it again. Fucking Glamtarts visiting a QUEEN noticeboard and slamming Freddie for being not capable of singing properly while the asshat Lamebird is hyped to death. He lacked skill in 1979, one of those years (1979-1981 being his peak) where his voice completey peaked? And some fucking Glamtart asshole is coming to this board talking about Freddie being not capable of singing? How delusional can you fucking pricks get? You fucking tranny idol is not even a musician let alone a singer. He is an EMO screamer with a paperthin shit voice destroying others songs and making a career out of being a cover crooner. Gimme a break really. Hitting high notes is not equal to good singing. When I hear this tool yodeling at the end of TYMD like someone whose nuts get slapped I have to vomit. And you really wonder why Glamtarts are hated on Queen boards?? Really???? Get the fuck out of here like sniff did.MisterCosmicc Adam's a trained singer, eh? Freddie's not. He didn't need training wheels. !Well he obviously did, and because he wasn't trained his voice suffered. That's why vocally Friday night at Wembley is better than Saturday on the magic tour. Most of The Crazy tour is better than a lot of the other 1979 gigs. It's why whole tours are inconsistent going from brilliant to average. Freddie had a great voice but lacked the skill to use it and take care of it professionally. Compare trained opera singers, who often perform five nights a week and use their full range. Lambert is trained to a point, mind that point allows him to use his voice at a consistent professional level. Freddie couldn't do that live, so maybe "training wheels" was what he should have thought about. You fuck off you fucked up ass wipe. You're too narrow minded to see or accept the bigger picture. And you acting like a stupid idiotic fuck crying that I'm not a Queen fan or that I'm a Glambert, fuck you you little fuck wit I was buying Queen albums and going to gigs before you were born. You're full of shit and you know it little rocker boy. Go and write your shit reviews about music and artists you don't understand for people who don't give a fuck. Try letting people enjoy what they like and while your doing that maybe you could look into getting an intelligence transplant. There are people here who know far more about the sudjects that are talked about on this site, there are people with far more adjective views than anything you've ever contributed. Take you're fucked attitude and twisted views and fuck off little Weckwerth you're a filthy stain on the Queen and Q+Al communities. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 14:41 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song. rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.Who was he appealing to? Rap, country fans as well? Concerts usually do attract people from all walks of life, you make it seem that's something new. How do you know every show was a standout when you didn't attend all of them? Do tell. I mentioned an AL glamnation concert from Indianapolis that's available to watch for free on youtube. Oh well, not good enough coming from me, I suppose. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 17:16 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song. rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.Ah right, I knew there was an audio live album but didn't realize there was a video version as well, cheers for that. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 17:19 |
ST17 wrote: For a start Adam is only a Z-lister living the rock n roll lifestyle thanks to crazy Brian May.Do try not to live under a rock, Z-lister lol, you're clueless. |
Star* 09.02.2020 17:38 |
I think you will find Adam is the one who is clueless ! Furthermore Adam is nothing without the name Queen tied to his coattails ! |
SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 17:46 |
Adam is having a very busy 2020 so far: link |
lincsat 09.02.2020 17:52 |
The band isn't Queen any more, it's Queen + Adam Lambert. From the bits I've seen, they play mostly Queen songs and play them very well. If you don't like what they are doing then nobody is forcing you to watch or listen. There is plenty of original Queen material to enjoy. I would love to see Queen + Adam Lambert but the closest they have come to my location is Birmingham and unfortunately I'm not available at the time they are there. I enjoyed Queen + Paul Rogers and got to see them at Nottingham and Sheffield, you even get to see the back of my bald patch in the DVD from Sheffield during I want to break free. I for one am eagerly awaiting an official live concert video. Not too bothered about any new studio work unless it includes some re-visited old material but would listen to it before making an opinion. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 17:55 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is having a very busy 2020 so far: link8 solo concerts. Who wants to bet he will do a cover..Oh let's say a Queen cover? |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 17:58 |
lincsat wrote: The band isn't Queen any more, it's Queen + Adam Lambert. From the bits I've seen, they play mostly Queen songs and play them very well. If you don't like what they are doing then nobody is forcing you to watch or listen. There is plenty of original Queen material to enjoy. I would love to see Queen + Adam Lambert but the closest they have come to my location is Birmingham and unfortunately I'm not available at the time they are there. I enjoyed Queen + Paul Rogers and got to see them at Nottingham and Sheffield, you even get to see the back of my bald patch in the DVD from Sheffield during I want to break free. I for one am eagerly awaiting an official live concert video. Not too bothered about any new studio work unless it includes some re-visited old material but would listen to it before making an opinion.I really hope Q+AL never resists Queen's old material on an album. Queen doesn't need AL to be involved with that. That's one thing that never, ever needs to be done, IMO. |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 18:01 |
rockchic65 wrote:Did you read my post earlier, or did you choose to ignore it? On youtube there is a concert from the Glamnation tour when it was Indianapolis, waste of my time pointing it out I guess.SweetCaroline wrote: Adam wasn’t appealing only to Glamberts in those 110 Glam Nation shows. I was amazed at the diversity of the people in the line that wrapped around the block at the first show I went to in Columbus. Inside the venue I was surprised by the guys standing near me who were with wives or girlfriends and were cheering as loud as I was. Every show was a standout, not just one or two because Adam is never boring and changes up his delivery of each song. rockchic, there is a professional video for purchase of the Glam Nation Show he did in Indianapolis during that tour.Ah right, I knew there was an audio live album but didn't realize there was a video version as well, cheers for that. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 18:32 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Did you read my post earlier, or did you choose to ignore it? On youtube there is a concert from the Glamnation tour when it was Indianapolis, waste of my time pointing it out I guess.No I read your post but you put that it was in parts rather than an actual concert, I find when watching individual vids of songs that I can't get a feel for the show as a whole and it doesn't flow the way a live concert DVD would. You mentioned a documentary, not sure what that is, maybe SC knows about it as the only documentary I know of is the one called behind the music which I've seen but it was just about his journey from being a child to being on Idol. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 18:35 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: Who wants to bet he will do a cover..Oh let's say a Queen cover?Yep I'm sure he will and I'm willing to bet it's AOBTD, he loves that song and has been doing it for years just like Taylor Hawkins keeps doing UP during the Foo's shows. |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 18:44 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:“You did twist things that wasn't even in my posts, it's there what we both said. I never even said it wasn't ok to point out that other artists, including Queen did covers as well. I'm well aware. One of my favorite bands recently did a Queen cover...one, not heavily relying on doing them”.rockchic65 wrote:You did twist things that wasn't even in my posts, it's there what we both said. I never even said it wasn't ok to point out that other artists, including Queen did covers as well. I'm well aware. One of my favorite bands recently did a Queen cover...one, not heavily relying on doing them. I stand by that I think AL relies heavily on doing covers songs. I'm also osteoporosis certain need will include a cover or two in his upcoming solo shows. Maybe even a Queen one; -). AL does sing covers with Brian and Roger. Genuine question, what makes an AL fan in your opinion? I don't blindly support everything an artist does. Nor do I dig and share personal info about my favorite artists. I'm not a glambert or even an AL fan compared to some people. I'm ok with that. I say what I don't like, and I say what I do like, goes for every artist. I think I would actually put AL in my top 150 artists of the last few years. There is much more music I like more than him, guess what, I'm ok with that too. That might not make a fan in your eyes so be it. Glambert tactics, there are two people here who purposely twist things that I don't say in my posts, it must be a kick i guess. Glambert tactics are the ones who say I'm not an AL fan. They do that trying to make me look bad. I know we disagree rockchic, but at least discuss or debate what in actullay in my posts. It's a well worn tactic of the two Glamberts here to twist as much as possible about me, I almost am sure someone will come along to say I hate AL, I'm negative etc. BTW, I went and looked. On youtube there is a documentary of sorts about AL's glamnation tour, there's a catch, it has to be paid to be able to see it. I've not watched it, so I can't tell you what is in it. There is also a playlist of the Glamnation tour from Indianapolis from 2010, it's in parts however.Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh dear again. You are using a Glambert tactic that twists things that I don't even post. AL has done many covers fact, and I'm aware Queen did covers as well. Better? Funny thing, I think it was you who said in the last few days about comparing Freddie to AL, but you are comparing Queen and AL doing covers. First off, Queen never relied so heavily on covers, they did a song or two here and there. I can't think of one n Queen show that heavily relied on covers. Lambert relies on covers, heck he has been singing them with Brian and Roger for nearly a decade. Even with his solo shows he usually manages to fit a cover or two. Another Glambert tactic to say I'm not a fan of AL's even though I have said very recently, in the last couple of days, even hours sgo that I really like Feel Something. I guess that doesn't make me a fan in your eyes. Alightyear then, sorry I don't fawn over the guy enough to be called a fan. I wish you didn't resort to shitty Glambert tactics with me here. Very telling that you do so.I'm not twisting anything I'm sticking to facts and the facts are that plenty of artists including Queen do covers during live shows. In 1973 Queen did five covers during the show and one again as a reprise (Jailhouse Rock). I'm not comparing them doing covers I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of calling one artist for doing something and giving another a free pass to another for the exact same thing, that's nothing to do with comparing. Adam is touring WITH QAL as their frontman, that's not doing covers the same way as an artist covering others in their own show, how on earth can you not make that distinction? Liking the odd song of an artist is not being a fan per se, there's plenty one off songs by artists I like but would never class myself was a fan of them in general and by that I mean I don't follow their career, don't watch their vids on YT and don't go to see them live and don't invest any time or energy in knowing or caring what they're up to all the time. Adam has die hard fans who follow his career closely, who go to shows, who love most of what he does and they're the fans he's entertaining so if he does things other people don't care for it doesn't matter, they aren't the audience his shows and music is aimed at. No idea how that comment could be construed as a glambert tactic. I didn’t twist anything, I pointed out Queen did covers and you said “I was talking about AL not Queen, why turn it around”. “I stand by that I think AL relies heavily on doing covers songs. I'm also osteoporosis certain need will include a cover or two in his upcoming solo shows. Maybe even a Queen one; -)”. He puts one or two covers in his solo shows, how is that “relying heavily”? “AL does sing covers with Brian and Roger”. He sings with Brian & Roger, he’s the frontman for the band QAL and as such is singing the music they want to play which in this case is Queen music. QAL contains two original members and isn’t a cover band so he’s what he calls himself “a guest singer”. What else would he be singing with them? “Genuine question, what makes an AL fan in your opinion? I don't blindly support everything an artist does. Nor do I dig and share personal info about my favorite artists”. The same as what makes a fan of any artist, liking what they do and having an interest in seeing them succeed would be my definition. “I'm not a glambert or even an AL fan compared to some people. I'm ok with that. I say what I don't like, and I say what I do like, goes for every artist. I think I would actually put AL in my top 150 artists of the last few years. There is much more music I like more than him, guess what, I'm ok with that too. That might not make a fan in your eyes so be it”. No one expects you to be a fan or a glambert, no idea why you would think they do or why you think you need to point out you aren’t. “Glambert tactics, there are two people here who purposely twist things that I don't say in my posts, it must be a kick i guess. Glambert tactics are the ones who say I'm not an AL fan. They do that trying to make me look bad”. Why would not being a fan make anyone look bad? No one has to be a fan of his or like what he does but most people who aren’t would just ignore his music, what he chooses to do in his career etc. |
SweetCaroline 09.02.2020 19:05 |
Another argumentative dissertation from the “owner” of the forum! It never ends! |
Iron Butterfly 09.02.2020 19:36 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Another argumentative dissertation from the “owner” of the forum! It never ends!Says the shit stirrer and shit feeder. Yep, your latest thread made sure what you think, too bad you lie to do it. |
Star* 09.02.2020 20:09 |
Rest assured Adam will never get on to a Cd with Queen ever ! Even Brian & Roger have the common sense not to let that car crash happen! |
rockchic65 09.02.2020 20:42 |
ST17 wrote: Rest assured Adam will never get on to a Cd with Queen ever ! Even Brian & Roger have the common sense not to let that car crash happen!Haha, you really believe that's the reason lol!!! |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 01:58 |
philip storey wrote: I am not for one minute looking forward to a Live CD or DVD of Queen & AL,however I find it a little strange that Brian and Roger have not milked that particular product yet.After all they did Return of the Champions with Paul Rodgers and a DVD.Maybe they have something in the works please us all,while we wait for a "live killers" box set.;-} " |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 01:59 |
Ale Solan wrote:philip storey wrote: No Queen Adam Lambert Live ReleasesThank fuck. |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:00 |
CM wrote: The best part of the every Q+AL show is the set of their new studio album being finally performed live. Lambert voice in their album is great with Brian and Roger on backing vocals, right, but what a blast is getting most of their new songs played live, so we will getting a new DVD release with every new album they release too. Queen used to get a new studio record out in two or three years time so the new deal with Lambert to get a new record released every four years is great... Brian and Roger feel lucky to have Adam, so they dont want to waste their time with boring tours when they can use their talent to create new music. The way Ringo Starr or Robert Plant always do. ...and then we remember Queen is just an endless greatest hits jukebox. Congrats Brian. Queen is the best dead band alive in the world. |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:00 |
ST16 wrote: It is obvious why Brian & Roger will not record with Adam, it is because they know it will be a flop and going by Adam's solo career that is a complete car crash. For gods sake do not record with the cock twat its bad enough seeing Queen abuse there rock status with this screeching banshee on stage. |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:01 |
master marathon runner wrote: Just roll on retirement. ....then we can all breathe easy. |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:02 |
runner_70 wrote:Secretfantasy wrote: And what Queen did to Ghost Town! Amazing!Ghost Town was released until 1991? Because Queen could have done something with it then. They stopped existing due to the death of their singer. How can they do something with it? The song is shit and stays shit. Not as shitty as Two Fux. THe worst thing Brian and Roger ever played on EVER. And that includes the Badger song and 5IVE |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:03 |
Saint Jiub wrote: Pepsi commercial, Robbie Williams, the musical, QAL ... all boring IMHO |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:07 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:MisterCosmicc wrote: Who else finds Adam’s version of Who Wants To Live Forever absolutely terrible? He starts screaming the notes because he can’t sing them correctly. Freddie’s original version was a power ballad, I’m unsure what Adam’s is. Bunch of thin pitched screaming. Perhaps his worst vocal performances.I wouldn't call it a absolutely terrible, but I've never warmed up to him singing it. Almost as if AL is trying to show off, less is more even the Queen live version was so much better than Q+ALs version of it. |
Saint Jiub 23.02.2020 02:11 |
Holly2003 wrote: WWL + Lambert = elevator muzak. |
SweetCaroline 24.02.2020 16:35 |
I think this should have been released as a DVD for purchase but it was an ABC broadcast so that probably would never happen: The Show Must Go On link |
SweetCaroline 24.02.2020 16:57 |
I’m sure this has been posted previously but for those who are critical of how Adam sings WWTLF, it is an excellent explanation and critique: link |
runner_70 24.02.2020 17:04 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I’m sure this has been posted previously but for those who are critical of how Adam sings WWTLF, it is an excellent explanation and critique: linkHe sounds like a whining schoolgirl mixed with a raped goat. No feeling no power just robotic hitting high notes. Unlistenable. MM did a great version only him on the piano where he even sang the melody of the guitar solo-thats how you sing it and bring something new to it. Lamebird sucks on every level and he cannot play an instrument as well. Just an emotionless screamer |
SweetCaroline 24.02.2020 17:23 |
Emotionless screamer — you are insane! |
SweetCaroline 24.02.2020 17:54 |
Marc screams: link |
MisterCosmicc 24.02.2020 20:03 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Marc screams: linkGood example of Marc demonstrating you don’t need to song high to reach loud volume decibels. That’s how you do a POWER ballad. |
Iron Butterfly 24.02.2020 20:06 |
WWTLF, I think he really over does it while singing it. Not one of my favorite covers he's sang. |
SweetCaroline 24.02.2020 21:54 |
Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam. |
MisterCosmicc 24.02.2020 21:57 |
Singing high doesn’t mean power. |
Iron Butterfly 24.02.2020 22:26 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 00:42 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 01:01 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:LOL. Then on the other hand, we have some Glamberts saying and posting on Queen boards how AL smells.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 01:09 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:I bet SweetCaroline would bid on a used, unwashed speedo worn by AdamMisterCosmicc wrote:LOL. Then on the other hand, we have some Glamberts saying and posting on Queen boards how AL smells.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 01:18 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I think she would because she has said something about wanting to be his maid to clean up his house. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:I bet SweetCaroline would bid on a used, unwashed speedo worn by AdamMisterCosmicc wrote:LOL. Then on the other hand, we have some Glamberts saying and posting on Queen boards how AL smells.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 02:01 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:Gross!MisterCosmicc wrote:I think she would because she has said something about wanting to be his maid to clean up his house. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:I bet SweetCaroline would bid on a used, unwashed speedo worn by AdamMisterCosmicc wrote:LOL. Then on the other hand, we have some Glamberts saying and posting on Queen boards how AL smells.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 05:59 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:I can just imagine Granny Glambert aka SweetCaroline who thinks of AL as her second son, but then goes on how sexy etc he is, then she wants to be the maid cleaning up after AL...can you? LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:Gross!MisterCosmicc wrote:I think she would because she has said something about wanting to be his maid to clean up his house. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:I bet SweetCaroline would bid on a used, unwashed speedo worn by AdamMisterCosmicc wrote:LOL. Then on the other hand, we have some Glamberts saying and posting on Queen boards how AL smells.Iron Butterfly wrote:Don’t worry, she’s smelly. Adam says his fans are smelly.SweetCaroline wrote: Sorry, but I think Adam’s voice is more powerful. Marc has a different sound or tone which is closer to Freddie, but he doesn’t have the power that is so strong for Adam.Powerful how exactly? Aim high, reach for the stars, SweetCaroline. |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 06:33 |
How many sons do you have, icy? |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 07:04 |
SweetCaroline wrote: How many sons do you have, icy?Why do you want to know? |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 07:24 |
Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have? |
AlexRocks 25.02.2020 07:36 |
This a live release by them. It is the hybrid compilation box set entitled: "Live In Japan" which has a vinyl, c.d., and blu-ray. Unfortunately the title is generic and that should be altered to something else in the future when it is re-released... |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 07:48 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 14:11 |
I wish they had released a DVD of their Isle of Wight show. They included quite a few colorful scenes from that show in their ABC documentary, The Show Must Go On, including a beautiful aerial shot of the audience with their lighted phones during LOML. |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 14:20 |
Here’s a pretty good review of that IOW Festival show in 2016: link |
snifflese 25.02.2020 14:26 |
It just so happens Adam WWTLF is my favorite song that he sings and there are a lot of master class and opera experts who have posted you tubes and commented on it. It is a breath taking version by a world class tenor. Guess you guys don't know much outside of the rock world or you might have more appreciation for it. If you sit in a venue where he is singing it, you would know that his voice is powerful and rings in the rafters. You guys have no idea what you are babbling on about. |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 15:29 |
snifflese, exactly! They think they are the Adam “experts,” but they have never seen him! I don’t know how he does it night after night during a tour. And Brian and Roger, too! |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 15:29 |
snifflese, exactly! They think they are the Adam “experts,” but they have never seen him! I don’t know how he does it night after night during a tour. And Brian and Roger, too! |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 16:43 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:And she ignores you after being confronted with facts.SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 16:44 |
snifflese wrote: It just so happens Adam WWTLF is my favorite song that he sings and there are a lot of master class and opera experts who have posted you tubes and commented on it. It is a breath taking version by a world class tenor. Guess you guys don't know much outside of the rock world or you might have more appreciation for it. If you sit in a venue where he is singing it, you would know that his voice is powerful and rings in the rafters. You guys have no idea what you are babbling on about.Apparently you don’t know what rock music is. |
snifflese 25.02.2020 17:21 |
Apparently you don't know what an stellar world class tenor voice is like! You also haven't heard it in the venue with your butt in the seat, as that makes a tremendous difference! |
Star* 25.02.2020 17:25 |
Snifflese : Shirley Bassey recorded Queen's "Who Wants To Live Forever" and its a million times better than Adam Lambert's version by miles! |
snifflese 25.02.2020 17:52 |
That is your opinion. I am just not a fan of female voices. There are many, many people, much more involved in musical training than I who have referenced how beautifully Adam sings that song. I am definitely not an outlier here. If it is not your preference, that is great as everyone likes different things. |
SweetCaroline 25.02.2020 19:07 |
Stop comparing recordings to LIVE performances. No one is standing there next to Adam on the stage and auto tuning and enhancing his voice like they do in the recording studio. That is all him “live and dangerous” as Brian likes to say! |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 20:08 |
snifflese wrote: It just so happens Adam WWTLF is my favorite song that he sings and there are a lot of master class and opera experts who have posted you tubes and commented on it. It is a breath taking version by a world class tenor. Guess you guys don't know much outside of the rock world or you might have more appreciation for it. If you sit in a venue where he is singing it, you would know that his voice is powerful and rings in the rafters. You guys have no idea what you are babbling on about.WWTLF is one of thr Queen songs that I most identify with. The Queen one is way ore powerful in many ways. Not the one where AL seems like he is doing it just to show off, 99% of the time. When I saw him dedicate it to the shooting victims, it's the most emotional I've seen him sing it, but all those other times, it doesn't do a thing for me. I don't care what experts say, they are entitled to their own opinion, but you make it seem because experts love it, everyone is supposed to love it. No thanks. |
Iron Butterfly 25.02.2020 20:14 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Of course she ignores me. Until she wants to bitch at me again.Iron Butterfly wrote:And she ignores you after being confronted with facts.SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. What a fkd up question to ask me if I have a son, that's just so weird, just like her son saying Freddie was a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini that she's posted what her son said, to try to boost her views. LMAO. |
Star* 25.02.2020 20:14 |
@Sweet Caroline : Shirley Bassey performs the track live too no auto tuning with here because she is a perfectionist too ! |
Star* 25.02.2020 20:16 |
Adam does not justify any Queen song because those songs were tailored to Freddie's Vocals as he plays piano in E flat. |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 23:40 |
snifflese wrote: Apparently you don't know what an stellar world class tenor voice is like! You also haven't heard it in the venue with your butt in the seat, as that makes a tremendous difference!People don’t sit down at rock concerts... they get up and move! |
MisterCosmicc 25.02.2020 23:42 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:If her son really said that, he’s living at home with mommy. But, without a doubt, I guarantee her son could care less about Adam Lambert, and is probably disgusted with her worship over him.MisterCosmicc wrote:Of course she ignores me. Until she wants to bitch at me again. What a fkd up question to ask me if I have a son, that's just so weird, just like her son saying Freddie was a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini that she's posted what her son said, to try to boost her views. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:And she ignores you after being confronted with facts.SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 00:45 |
Cosmic, you never have a clue what you are talking about. You seem to talk out of your butt, anything that is negative about Adam. I guess you haven't read many of the GLOWING, MAGNIFICENT Reviews from the concerts where they talk about the fans that range from 8-90 and how you see whole families with grandparents, parents and kids who go to QAL. Queen's music is so timeless that it appeals to all age groups. I imagine SC's son and family went with her. One of my 2 sons accompanied me twice and although he was not predisposed to like QAL, he was really impressed and loved it after the first show in 2014. He went with me to a concert the second time round in 2017 and found them even better. He would have gone to the Rhapsody tour very happily, but he now lives in Asia. Instead, one of my younger son's friends went with me. He said it was one of the best shows he had ever seen and his livelihood is photographing rock concerts. He has met many, many of the stars and seen their concerts! That is the way it works at a QAL concert! People become fans after attending one of their outstanding shows and it is all ages and lots of moms and dads with their kids!! |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 00:57 |
snifflese wrote: Cosmic, you never have a clue what you are talking about. You seem to talk out of your butt, anything that is negative about Adam. I guess you haven't read many of the GLOWING, MAGNIFICENT Reviews from the concerts where they talk about the fans that range from 8-90 and how you see whole families with grandparents, parents and kids who go to QAL. Queen's music is so timeless that it appeals to all age groups. I imagine SC's son and family went with her. One of my 2 sons accompanied me twice and although he was not predisposed to like QAL, he was really impressed and loved it after the first show in 2014. He went with me to a concert the second time round in 2017 and found them even better. He would have gone to the Rhapsody tour very happily, but he now lives in Asia. Instead, one of my younger son's friends went with me. He said it was one of the best shows he had ever seen and his livelihood is photographing rock concerts. He has met many, many of the stars and seen their concerts! That is the way it works at a QAL concert! People become fans after attending one of their outstanding shows and it is all ages and lots of moms and dads with their kids!!Caps again. Seriously you put too much stock in the reviews that is only praise. Why the heck are you and SweetCaroline bring up what your son thinks? Is that the latest way to post by bringing up what your sons say? |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 00:59 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:And to think she asked if I had a son. Lol.Iron Butterfly wrote:If her son really said that, he’s living at home with mommy. But, without a doubt, I guarantee her son could care less about Adam Lambert, and is probably disgusted with her worship over him.MisterCosmicc wrote:Of course she ignores me. Until she wants to bitch at me again. What a fkd up question to ask me if I have a son, that's just so weird, just like her son saying Freddie was a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini that she's posted what her son said, to try to boost her views. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:And she ignores you after being confronted with facts.SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. |
SweetCaroline 26.02.2020 01:12 |
Do you have a son? You never answer! Stop talking about mine. Let’s hear about yours! |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 01:15 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Do you have a son? You never answer! Stop talking about mine. Let’s hear about yours!Why are you asking? You are being terribly nosy and intrusive. What about all the questions you never answer. Want me to ask about your family? Doubtful, you would say I'm stalking you. I don't owe you an answer, and I'm sure you would use it against me, so fk off asking. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 01:16 |
Mainly because you two jokers brought up sons in the comments. I was replying to this" Cosmic says, " "If her son really said that, he’s living at home with mommy. But, without a doubt, I guarantee her son could care less about Adam Lambert, and is probably disgusted with her worship over him." -about SC and her son My post related directly to that remark. I was at three concerts (2014, 2017, and 2019) and saw and spoke to people who had whole families with them. So, I think I am in a much better position than you two to say who is attending these concerts. I sat next to two sets of parents with kids from 20-35. Don't bring up sons if we can't respond to that. I think my son's remarks are very pertinent as he is a different generation than I am and thought Freddie was the bee's knees, but came out really enjoying Adam as a vocalist and Brian and Roger for their consummate musicianship. That is very pertinent as he attended 2 shows and could assess better than you two who have been to none and are predisposed to hate everything they do. I don't put much stock in what any of you say, as I have been to the concerts and know better. When you are at a concert, you get the vibe of it and know if it was well received or not and QAL's shows seem to be loved by the vast majority. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 01:20 |
snifflese wrote: Mainly because you two jokers brought up sons in the comments. I was replying to this" Cosmic says, " "If her son really said that, he’s living at home with mommy. But, without a doubt, I guarantee her son could care less about Adam Lambert, and is probably disgusted with her worship over him." -about SC and her son My post related directly to that remark. I was at three concerts (2014, 2017, and 2019) and saw and spoke to people who had whole families with them. So, I think I am in a much better position than you two to say who is attending these concerts. I sat next to two sets of parents with kids from 20-35. Don't bring up sons if we can't respond to that. I think my son's remarks are very pertinent as he is a different generation than I am and thought Freddie was the bee's knees, but came out really enjoying Adam as a vocalist and Brian and Roger for their consummate musicianship. That is very pertinent as he attended 2 shows and could assess better than you two who have been to none and are predisposed to hate everything they do. I don't put much stock in what any of you say, as I have been to the concerts and know better. When you are at a concert, you get the vibe of it and know if it was well received or not and QAL's shows seem to be loved by the vast majority.Breaking news *sarcasm*....all ages attend concerts...who ever would have thought? Come on, snifflese. Even I know there are people of all ages attend concerts, sorry nothing new. Queen's music is for all ages really for many reasons. Not like AL's pop and EDM music that many Glamberts will "love" no matter what. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 03:09 |
Then you and Cosmic shouldn't make snide remarks about son's living in basements as if younger people would never go to a concert and there must be something wrong with them to like Adam, or maybe it is just our son's that can't have a valid opinion. That is reserved just for you folks, I guess. Your remark makes no sense based on the previous posts. I have told you before, that if you have to insert sarcasm, it was a lame remark. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 03:23 |
snifflese wrote: Then you and Cosmic shouldn't make snide remarks about son's living in basements as if younger people would never go to a concert and there must be something wrong with them to like Adam, or maybe it is just our son's that can't have a valid opinion. That is reserved just for you folks, I guess. Your remark makes no sense based on the previous posts. I have told you before, that if you have to insert sarcasm, it was a lame remark.Excuse me? Where have I made snide remarks about son's living in basements. Fact, I didn't so there you go putting words in my mouth again. Seriously, I think you get kicks from twisting things so much. Go back and read my posts from earlier today, I said nothing about your son living in a basement. Of course you won't, cause you can't and won't admit that you have that wrong. Nope, nothing wrong with liking Adam Lambert. When it crosses boundries as I've seen on Queen boards that's something else altogether. That's not liking, that's obsession. Sure, your son's can have a opinion, but they aren't here posting their views, so I think the continued use of what your son and SweetCaroline's son says, hold not much water here. Pretty much like the tweets from some random person that SweetCaroline posts on Queen boards. Many people use sarcasm, I don't think you are able to tell when people use it or not , even when it's obvious people are being sarcastic. I think it's lame you don't get it, and you are one of two people here who is always pointing out that I'm "wrong" in my views. You don't have to agree with me, but you barely are even civil these days. It makes no sense that you put words in my mouth, twist things and shit stir. You must get an ego boost by doing it, even more if other AL fans come to have a go at me to back you up. You are clueless in many ways, snifflese. |
Star* 26.02.2020 09:10 |
Glambert's like Snifflese have there heads up there arse's they have no sense of musical taste and all they see is a talentless homosexual man wearing eye liner sparkly clothes pretending to be a rock god very laughable i think. Lambert will end up a fat and even useless old queen soon. |
Vocal harmony 26.02.2020 12:26 |
ST16 wrote: Adam does not justify any Queen song because those songs were tailored to Freddie's Vocals as he plays piano in E flat.What exactly has E flat got to do with the differences between vocalists abilities. . . Are you referring to an old interview in which Brian mentions that because Freddie usually wrote on a piano. The key and note progressions Freddie played are not always what Brian as a guitar player would usually choose but because of that choice it gave the songs a certain "Queen sound". How do you explain a Queen song sung by Freddie in Am. This E flat comment was made in the mid 70's before they went down the more commercial pop route and became a different sounding band much of the time. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 14:21 |
I said you and Cosmic together, since both of you were cackling about sons and it was Cosmic who said that, which I clearly noted. But as always you go along with it, you are both as mean as each other. I also said it was in reference to SC's son. Try to read a little closer. Going to a concert with a person who knows a lot about music and has an opinion can be stated on here. It is not some random tweet. It is actually someone I know and had a long discussion with. But somehow you guys make is sound creepy and wrong.I don't ordinarily say anything about my sons opinions, just very occasionally and I am allowed to do that! I f you point out things you don't like and things that are "wrong", then people can push back. That is the nature of what passes for a discussion on here. unfortunately. Even with RC, once she starts pointing things out to you, you even get on the" glambert tactics" train with her and start getting huffy. This particular conversation was within the last week or so between you and her. You just don't want any criticism at all, even thought that is all you do on here. Why can't others say something with you jumping on them and sneering at them about their opinions? You could do it in a civil manner, but you won't and then you moan about it. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 18:39 |
One more thing for Icy and Cosmic. They seem to dismiss any opinion for whatever reason, if it isn't like their own. You two seem to think my Kids (mid-thirties and older, still called kids here in the US no matter their age) can not be brought into a conversation because their opinions don't count. Not sure why, as any concert goer or music lover can express an opinion. You two certainly do and I am willing to bet my kid's musical expertise weigh outshines your expertise, not that I have seen much evidence of that, esp from Icy. So far I have seen her expound on crowns and capes and important Queen dates, not much else and not very impressive for someone who wants to dictate everyone else's opinion. Here is the reason my kid's opinions count. One had classical piano lessons for 7 years up until his Sr year when things got too busy. He did the piano guild exams and performances always with an outstanding. I am not sure if Icy has ever had to memorize an hours worth of classical music to play by yourself in front of judges. I doubt it greatly. He also was in a large school band in the percussion section and can play all the instruments, mostly drums. That was another 4 years worth of band musical training. He also played for fun in metal bands in the community. My other son had the same kind of training for guitar and bass, although he did not play in the school band. He plays by ear and can play any song. He was in a couple of semi-professional bands that had gigs in big cities around us. They were also carted along with their friends by me to all the rock concerts and shows in the area. We have seen Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Slip Knot, Rage against the Machine and numerous other bands, so they have had their share of live concerts. They have continued seeing live bands as adults. So, I would venture to say that their opinion is at least as valid as Icy's, who I doubt has anywhere near their musical bona fides and the most important thing is that one of those 2 sons was able to go with me to see QAL in 2014 and 2017 and was able to experience it first hand. Not sure how she can consider her more than likely very limited musical knowledge to be more valid than theirs. Knowing a few Queen facts does not make it so and I have seen no evidence of any great knowledge of music in general or about Queen, other that a few random things she always says. Get off your high horses and let everyone have their say without sneering at them and making fun of people (particulary Cosmic in this one instance). If you can have an opinion, so can I and I can share my son't opinions also. Just like SC can bring over tweets and reviews, which are often from people in the business or some old Queen fans. But it doesn't matter who they are, as their opinion also counts. Most importantly, they were at the concert. so they can have a much more valid opinion than someone who never has attended a show. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 19:37 |
snifflese wrote: I said you and Cosmic together, since both of you were cackling about sons and it was Cosmic who said that, which I clearly noted. But as always you go along with it, you are both as mean as each other. I also said it was in reference to SC's son. Try to read a little closer. Going to a concert with a person who knows a lot about music and has an opinion can be stated on here. It is not some random tweet. It is actually someone I know and had a long discussion with. But somehow you guys make is sound creepy and wrong.I don't ordinarily say anything about my sons opinions, just very occasionally and I am allowed to do that! I f you point out things you don't like and things that are "wrong", then people can push back. That is the nature of what passes for a discussion on here. unfortunately. Even with RC, once she starts pointing things out to you, you even get on the" glambert tactics" train with her and start getting huffy. This particular conversation was within the last week or so between you and her. You just don't want any criticism at all, even thought that is all you do on here. Why can't others say something with you jumping on them and sneering at them about their opinions? You could do it in a civil manner, but you won't and then you moan about it.I didn't go along with it at all. It's still there what MisterCosmicc and I had posted. How do you get things so wrong, when it was only posted yesterday? You don't get sarcasm at all. You recently n took a post by Saint Jiub very seriously even though it was clear he was being sarcastic. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 19:38 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:This is my reply to MisterCosmicc, snifflese...previous page.MisterCosmicc wrote:And to think she asked if I had a son. Lol.Iron Butterfly wrote:If her son really said that, he’s living at home with mommy. But, without a doubt, I guarantee her son could care less about Adam Lambert, and is probably disgusted with her worship over him.MisterCosmicc wrote:Of course she ignores me. Until she wants to bitch at me again. What a fkd up question to ask me if I have a son, that's just so weird, just like her son saying Freddie was a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini that she's posted what her son said, to try to boost her views. LMAO.Iron Butterfly wrote:And she ignores you after being confronted with facts.SweetCaroline wrote: Why? Because you are nosy about my sons! How many do you have?Nosy my ass. You have metionec thatyou have a son a few times, remember that you said he thinks Freddie is a Thunderbird and Lambert is a Lamborghini on Queen boards . I remember it just in case you try saying I'm stalking you again. And you have also said you think AL is a second son to you and you think of yourself as his second mother. Seriously, that's insane, even more so how you go on about how sexy you think AL is... You said all that. On Queen boards, so I'm not being nosy. You are nosy asking if I have a son. Actually, you are pathetic. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 19:42 |
snifflese wrote: One more thing for Icy and Cosmic. They seem to dismiss any opinion for whatever reason, if it isn't like their own. You two seem to think my Kids (mid-thirties and older, still called kids here in the US no matter their age) can not be brought into a conversation because their opinions don't count. Not sure why, as any concert goer or music lover can express an opinion. You two certainly do and I am willing to bet my kid's musical expertise weigh outshines your expertise, not that I have seen much evidence of that, esp from Icy. So far I have seen her expound on crowns and capes and important Queen dates, not much else and not very impressive for someone who wants to dictate everyone else's opinion. Here is the reason my kid's opinions count. One had classical piano lessons for 7 years up until his Sr year when things got too busy. He did the piano guild exams and performances always with an outstanding. I am not sure if Icy has ever had to memorize an hours worth of classical music to play by yourself in front of judges. I doubt it greatly. He also was in a large school band in the percussion section and can play all the instruments, mostly drums. That was another 4 years worth of band musical training. He also played for fun in metal bands in the community. My other son had the same kind of training for guitar and bass, although he did not play in the school band. He plays by ear and can play any song. He was in a couple of semi-professional bands that had gigs in big cities around us. They were also carted along with their friends by me to all the rock concerts and shows in the area. We have seen Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Slip Knot, Rage against the Machine and numerous other bands, so they have had their share of live concerts. They have continued seeing live bands as adults. So, I would venture to say that their opinion is at least as valid as Icy's, who I doubt has anywhere near their musical bona fides and the most important thing is that one of those 2 sons was able to go with me to see QAL in 2014 and 2017 and was able to experience it first hand. Not sure how she can consider her more than likely very limited musical knowledge to be more valid than theirs. Knowing a few Queen facts does not make it so and I have seen no evidence of any great knowledge of music in general or about Queen, other that a few random things she always says. Get off your high horses and let everyone have their say without sneering at them and making fun of people (particulary Cosmic in this one instance). If you can have an opinion, so can I and I can share my son't opinions also. Just like SC can bring over tweets and reviews, which are often from people in the business or some old Queen fans. But it doesn't matter who they are, as their opinion also counts. Most importantly, they were at the concert. so they can have a much more valid opinion than someone who never has attended a show.What do you get from twisting things so much? Your son's are not here posting. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 19:44 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:This is what I said about it, snifflese.snifflese wrote: Cosmic, you never have a clue what you are talking about. You seem to talk out of your butt, anything that is negative about Adam. I guess you haven't read many of the GLOWING, MAGNIFICENT Reviews from the concerts where they talk about the fans that range from 8-90 and how you see whole families with grandparents, parents and kids who go to QAL. Queen's music is so timeless that it appeals to all age groups. I imagine SC's son and family went with her. One of my 2 sons accompanied me twice and although he was not predisposed to like QAL, he was really impressed and loved it after the first show in 2014. He went with me to a concert the second time round in 2017 and found them even better. He would have gone to the Rhapsody tour very happily, but he now lives in Asia. Instead, one of my younger son's friends went with me. He said it was one of the best shows he had ever seen and his livelihood is photographing rock concerts. He has met many, many of the stars and seen their concerts! That is the way it works at a QAL concert! People become fans after attending one of their outstanding shows and it is all ages and lots of moms and dads with their kids!!Caps again. Seriously you put too much stock in the reviews that is only praise. Why the heck are you and SweetCaroline bring up what your son thinks? Is that the latest way to post by bringing up what your sons say? |
snifflese 26.02.2020 20:03 |
You don't value any opinion but your own and you neglected to show all the rest of the thread with you and Cosmic yukking it up about our kids and you have had things to say previously. That was your last post previous to my comments and I don't see why you would care whose opinion it is. At least one of them was at two of the concerts. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 20:18 |
snifflese wrote: You don't value any opinion but your own and you neglected to show all the rest of the thread with you and Cosmic yukking it up about our kids and you have had things to say previously. That was your last post previous to my comments and I don't see why you would care whose opinion it is. At least one of them was at two of the concerts.How do you know about opinions thst I value or not? Oh, I didn't show the rest of thread you say, and of course you will hold that against me, even though you did the same recently. You put too much stock in glowing reviews, praise etc. That's what matters to you as long as there is praise, nothing else matters. So, your son at the concert. With you and he liked it. What am I supposed to mod with that "information", change my mind suddenly based on thoughts on someone who isn't even a poster here? I've said many times only the music can change my mind, not the glowing articles, tweets etc. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 21:08 |
Nobody can change your mind and no one is trying to. Just keep the nasty remarks about other people's opinions out of the discussion and everyone might be able to get along. You can scroll over glowing articles, just don't read them. But people have a right to post such things just like you can rain on everyone's parade, it just doesn't have to get ugly with the stuff you normally say to them. I don't put stock into glowing reviews, etc. BUT I have seen 3 of their concerts and IMO those glowing reviews and tweets are exactly on point. Millions of people all over the internet say the same things: 1) They can't believe how great the concert is 2). They can't believe how great Brian and Roger are, esp Brian playing like that at his age. 3). They can't believe how good Adam is with them and how he won them over in spite of his not being Freddie. 4). They can't believe how wonderful Adam's voice is and often mention that they don't understand why he is not more well known for his voice which they never thought could be that good. 5). Many, Many say it was hands down the best concert they have ever attended. Those are the facts, if you have followed the tweets, reviews, blogs and newspaper articles over the last so many years. That is why they play more and more concerts and bigger venues. They could not be doing that if they were as lousy as you think they are. You just don't like Adam and it colors your objectivity and that of some of the others on here. Most people can separate Adam and Freddie, but somehow you can't. The two have nothing to do with one another, as it is a different time and a different band. People liking QAL in no way takes a thing away from Freddie, but for you it does somehow. I don't know what to do about that one. It makes you a very negative person which is a shame. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 21:23 |
snifflese wrote: Nobody can change your mind and no one is trying to. Just keep the nasty remarks about other people's opinions out of the discussion and everyone might be able to get along. You can scroll over glowing articles, just don't read them. But people have a right to post such things just like you can rain on everyone's parade, it just doesn't have to get ugly with the stuff you normally say to them. I don't put stock into glowing reviews, etc. BUT I have seen 3 of their concerts and IMO those glowing reviews and tweets are exactly on point. Millions of people all over the internet say the same things: 1) They can't believe how great the concert is 2). They can't believe how great Brian and Roger are, esp Brian playing like that at his age. 3). They can't believe how good Adam is with them and how he won them over in spite of his not being Freddie. 4). They can't believe how wonderful Adam's voice is and often mention that they don't understand why he is not more well known for his voice which they never thought could be that good. 5). Many, Many say it was hands down the best concert they have ever attended. Those are the facts, if you have followed the tweets, reviews, blogs and newspaper articles over the last so many years. That is why they play more and more concerts and bigger venues. They could not be doing that if they were as lousy as you think they are. You just don't like Adam and it colors your objectivity and that of some of the others on here. Most people can separate Adam and Freddie, but somehow you can't. The two have nothing to do with one another, as it is a different time and a different band. People liking QAL in no way takes a thing away from Freddie, but for you it does somehow. I don't know what to do about that one. It makes you a very negative person which is a shame.Your son's don't post here, so their opinions hold much weight, in my opinion...how is that nasty?? There you go, off into a rant again. You are the one who twists so much, you turn yourself into knots. I don't care what all the glowing reviews, tweets, articles say, I have a mind of my own. I can use it. I don't think AL is the best singer/live singer...because sometimes much more goes into the music than just hitting notes. Freddie and AL have something to do with each other, especially as one is filling his pockets because of the other man's legacy. One has been making a career out of singing his and Queen's music for nearly a decade ..so my dear, they do have things to do with each other. Are you for real here? AL wouldn't and couldn't sell out all these venues solo wise. You are a very bitter, envious person regarding Freddie. You are so isolated in your AL bubble, I feel sorry for you. |
SweetCaroline 26.02.2020 21:27 |
snifflese, it is impossible to deal with nasty, brain-dead imbeciles! They don’t do that at QOL. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 21:33 |
SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, it is impossible to deal with nasty, brain-dead imbeciles! They don’t do that at QOL.Speaking of brain dead, says you who cant even tnink for yourself, so you rely on other people's words to do it for you. What does QOL have to do with anything here? I don't think MisterCosmicc is a member over there. You don't do things on QOL the way you do here, I wonder why that is? You wouldn't get away with it, that's why. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 21:43 |
Then there is no reason to ever have any interaction with you, Icy. Which is what I would really like. You have your opinion and I have mine. Go find some other like minded person and chat with them. No, I am not bitter and envious of Freddie (don't understand that statement at all!) but I am not a nut job about Freddie and can separate the two, as it is a different time and a different band, just like I just told you above. I can appreciate all the wonderful things he did for Queen and I loved the music back then. I can also appreciate the QAL resurgence and how much joy it brings to a lot of people who wanted to see Queen one more time or never got to see them, but can appreciate what they are doing now as QAL. This is as good as it gets, since Freddie is not walking back on that stage. You have to appreciate what is available right now and not hold it against them that Freddie is no longer singing. That is totally unreasonable and unfair to the band. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 21:56 |
snifflese wrote: Then there is no reason to ever have any interaction with you, Icy. Which is what I would really like. You have your opinion and I have mine. Go find some other like minded person and chat with them. No, I am not bitter and envious of Freddie (don't understand that statement at all!) but I am not a nut job about Freddie and can separate the two, as it is a different time and a different band, just like I just told you above. I can appreciate all the wonderful things he did for Queen and I loved the music back then. I can also appreciate the QAL resurgence and how much joy it brings to a lot of people who wanted to see Queen one more time or never got to see them, but can appreciate what they are doing now as QAL. This is as good as it gets, since Freddie is not walking back on that stage. You have to appreciate what is available right now and not hold it against them that Freddie is no longer singing. That is totally unreasonable and unfair to the band.Why don't you go find someone who thinks exact like you and go chat with them? Oh wait, that's what you want and need this subforum to be. You do know that you offer fk all, here on QZ , except your throwing shit my way and your defense of SweetCaroline. You don't even want to discuss Freddie or Queen. Not buying it for a second n that you loved the music back then. People usually do discuss the things they love on a message board, even if it's from years ago, esp on a Queen board. You don't even discuss it, do yea not buying you loved the music back then. I'm aware Freddie isn't going to walk on on stage. I don't think you are aware of what that man gave the world and left the world with some very good, even great talent and music. I doubt you could list 10 deep cuts from the Queen back catalogue without having to look it up. Wtf are you getting at now? I don't hold anything against "them" because Freddie is not here. Again, are you for real? What a shitty thing to imply about me. You are the one being unfair here, all out spiteful. |
snifflese 26.02.2020 22:07 |
OK, Lady, what do you ever discuss since you are the biggest Freddie lover on here? I have not seen one tid bit of info about Freddie or Queen or anything unless you were throwing something in someone's face about dates and crowns and capes. You are quite something. It is just like you telling me to go post on the Queen forums and I couldn't find any recent posts from you. You gotta walk the walk to talk the talk and you are a big hypocrite since you do none of the things you keep telling me to do. You do hold it against Roger and Brian that they are still performing and with Adam of all people. Don't give me that because I don't believe you for a second. |
Iron Butterfly 26.02.2020 23:04 |
snifflese wrote: OK, Lady, what do you ever discuss since you are the biggest Freddie lover on here? I have not seen one tid bit of info about Freddie or Queen or anything unless you were throwing something in someone's face about dates and crowns and capes. You are quite something. It is just like you telling me to go post on the Queen forums and I couldn't find any recent posts from you. You gotta walk the walk to talk the talk and you are a big hypocrite since you do none of the things you keep telling me to do. You do hold it against Roger and Brian that they are still performing and with Adam of all people. Don't give me that because I don't believe you for a second.In a rage I see. I do discuss Queen and Freddie a heck of alot more than you ever did, or ever will. I'm a fan of his, is that wrong on Queen boards, it's not. You claim you have read my posts on QOL for 10 years, if you really did read my posts, then you'd know I discussed Freddie and Queen. I don't do it as much here...but you can't do it at all. You are the hypocrite here telling me to post about Freddie and Queen when you don't do it yourself. You are unbelievable . You are batshit crazy here. I never stated I hold it against Brian and Roger for still performing. If I held it against them, I wouldn't want them to continue to make solo music etc. You are just pissed of because I like more music, and that includes Queen and Freddie, more than I like Lambert and Q+AL. That's your problem, Lady. One if many that you have about me. |
snifflese 27.02.2020 00:39 |
You are absolutely tone deaf and thick as a brick, Icy. I don't want to discuss Queen and Freddie, what don't you understand about that? It is not as if I haven't told you this many, many times. There is a world of difference between you who loves Freddie and is always talking about him and yet I have never seen a post that has something interesting about him or his music that you have written. I have been stuck reading your posts for years and they are always the same, no Queen info or anything substantial, always like the crap you post here. You should be the person posting about your love of him and his music on these boards. Then you tell me to, although I have told you that I have no desire to do so ever and somehow I am a hypocrite because I don't?? In what universe does that even make any sense? Wow, I can't believe that you would say anything so ludicrous! You don't like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste. That IMO is the crux of the matter. If Roger and Brian toured with someone that wasn't all that great and they weren't as big as they are now, you would have no issue. You don't like their success and you resent Adam because he is part of what is so successful with their playing together. I could care less who you like or don't like. That is your prerogative. I just have a problem with your lording it over everyone, as if this were your domain and we all need to kowtow to you and we are not allowed to have any opinions unless they parrot yours or we will incur the wrath of Icy. It kind of sucks the joy out of this place totally. |
Iron Butterfly 27.02.2020 03:17 |
snifflese wrote: You are absolutely tone deaf and thick as a brick, Icy. I don't want to discuss Queen and Freddie, what don't you understand about that? It is not as if I haven't told you this many, many times. There is a world of difference between you who loves Freddie and is always talking about him and yet I have never seen a post that has something interesting about him or his music that you have written. I have been stuck reading your posts for years and they are always the same, no Queen info or anything substantial, always like the crap you post here. You should be the person posting about your love of him and his music on these boards. Then you tell me to, although I have told you that I have no desire to do so ever and somehow I am a hypocrite because I don't?? In what universe does that even make any sense? Wow, I can't believe that you would say anything so ludicrous! You don't like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste. That IMO is the crux of the matter. If Roger and Brian toured with someone that wasn't all that great and they weren't as big as they are now, you would have no issue. You don't like their success and you resent Adam because he is part of what is so successful with their playing together. I could care less who you like or don't like. That is your prerogative. I just have a problem with your lording it over everyone, as if this were your domain and we all need to kowtow to you and we are not allowed to have any opinions unless they parrot yours or we will incur the wrath of Icy. It kind of sucks the joy out of this place totally.You have stated you don't want to discuss Freddie or Queen ( because in your mind ) you think you will be criticised by Queen fans here. Yet, you lecture us and give history about Q+AL and AL. You ate going for me because you have never seen my posts in Queen threads. I doubt you looked hard enough. It's ironic you say you have read my posts for 10 years, and you say I have nothing substantial to say. Pretty rich coming from you...who can't even be bothered to discuss music or a y thing else in the first place. You are only here to defend your fellow Glambert and to go after me, even trying to get others to take your side. That's all you ever do. AL is nowhere near being too close to Freddie, that's a fact. Let's compare their careers shall we? One who was groundbreaking in many ways, the other who is still relying on Freddie's and Queen's legacy to make a buck. So, you see, they aren't "too close" at all, you keep trying to convince yourself of that. You poor deluded thing. I've seen your wrath more than once. You know how you once said I'm the Queen bitch? You are one of two Glambert bitches here who is way too over sensitive, flies into a rage over nothing to put it mildly. Come back to tell me what to do, where I can post when you can do it yourself. |
Star* 27.02.2020 08:43 |
Snifflese That was a ridiculous comment when you said "You dont like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste" that is just insulting Freddie. Adam could never be Freddie in a billion years he more like Boy George or a camp Bono. Freddie has talent he is multi mega talented and would blow Adam off that stage if he was still here. |
MisterCosmicc 27.02.2020 11:33 |
snifflese wrote: OK, Lady, what do you ever discuss since you are the biggest Freddie lover on here? I have not seen one tid bit of info about Freddie or Queen or anything unless you were throwing something in someone's face about dates and crowns and capes. You are quite something. It is just like you telling me to go post on the Queen forums and I couldn't find any recent posts from you. You gotta walk the walk to talk the talk and you are a big hypocrite since you do none of the things you keep telling me to do. You do hold it against Roger and Brian that they are still performing and with Adam of all people. Don't give me that because I don't believe you for a second.Why don’t you go to Adamtopia if you’re not satisfied here? |
MisterCosmicc 27.02.2020 13:29 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t know how he does it night after night during a tour.Well, Adam’s idea of a performance is standing still for a minute, walking a few inches to another spot, and then standing there for a minute, and so on. Maybe a few dumb crotch rubs, maybe a couple dumb pelvis thrusts. All the while sticking his lower jaw out and making dumb faces during the vocal breaks. |
Star* 27.02.2020 16:33 |
@Mister Cosmic You are spot on there, Adam does not wear himself out he is a lazy performer and does as little as he can. Freddie on the other hand was a fire cracker and in the space of 5 minutes was sweating like a boiling kettle with all the running around to please the audience. Mercury was a real live wire performer where Lambert is a fat lazy git. |
snifflese 27.02.2020 17:58 |
Adam is saving his energy for the vocals, which are way more important than running all over the stage like a madman. I have been to three QAL concerts and he moves a lot more than you think. I believe he tries to highlight Brian and not be zooming all over taking the limelight instead of Brian. In his own tours he can zoom quite a bit. If you move too much it can affect the vocals, however I doubt that is the issue since he can sing perfectly from a prone position which is extremely hard to do. Each performer is different and Freddie was the star so everyone watched him. Adam wants Brian to get his due so he isn't nearly so busy otherwise people would be more apt to follow him and not watch the others. YMMV. But I don't think it can be called laziness. Singing for close to 2 1/2 hours is draining no matter how much one moves on stage and his voice is never diminished, the same from start to finish, so he may also be conserving energy to sing really well. I would rather hear great singing than someone who darts all over and the vocals suffer. There is a fine line there. I am not speaking specifically about Freddie, but have noticed this with other performers who are much too frantic on stage and they don't sound as good as they should. |
SweetCaroline 27.02.2020 19:05 |
Ha, Adam has very long legs and doesn't have to dart around to cover the same amount of space that Freddie covered. He just glides a couple of times and he is back to the middle of the stage. I admit he doesn’t climb all over the set like Freddie did but he does manage to maneuver the steps pretty well even with those 4 inch heels. |
MisterCosmicc 27.02.2020 19:06 |
snifflese wrote: Adam is saving his energy for the vocals, which are way more important than running all over the stage like a madman. I have been to three QAL concerts and he moves a lot more than you think. I believe he tries to highlight Brian and not be zooming all over taking the limelight instead of Brian. In his own tours he can zoom quite a bit. If you move too much it can affect the vocals, however I doubt that is the issue since he can sing perfectly from a prone position which is extremely hard to do. Each performer is different and Freddie was the star so everyone watched him. Adam wants Brian to get his due so he isn't nearly so busy otherwise people would be more apt to follow him and not watch the others. YMMV. But I don't think it can be called laziness. Singing for close to 2 1/2 hours is draining no matter how much one moves on stage and his voice is never diminished, the same from start to finish, so he may also be conserving energy to sing really well. I would rather hear great singing than someone who darts all over and the vocals suffer. There is a fine line there. I am not speaking specifically about Freddie, but have noticed this with other performers who are much too frantic on stage and they don't sound as good as they should.I love how people use Brian as an excuse for Adam’s lack of athletics... I’ve watched Adam doing solo concerts... doing rap signs with his hands isn’t athletic. He enjoys standing in one place for the most part. Freddie’s vocals didn’t suffer from moving around. |
MisterCosmicc 27.02.2020 19:09 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Ha, Adam has very long legs and doesn't have to dart around to cover the same amount of space that Freddie covered. He just glides a couple of times and he is back to the middle of the stage. I admit he doesn’t climb all over the set like Freddie did but he does manage to maneuver the steps pretty well even with those 4 inch heels.Adam isn’t energetic. Adam doesn’t move much at all... it’s hilarious that you use his legs as an excuse though. Adam moves slowly, and in much more time than Freddie. The four inch heels may play a role, he should give those up. But Adam’s idea of athletics is using his hands, not his legs. |
Iron Butterfly 27.02.2020 19:46 |
ST16 wrote: Snifflese That was a ridiculous comment when you said "You dont like them performing with Adam because he is too close to Freddie for your taste" that is just insulting Freddie. Adam could never be Freddie in a billion years he more like Boy George or a camp Bono. Freddie has talent he is multi mega talented and would blow Adam off that stage if he was still here.Yea, I'm still waiting for her to explain how AL is too close to Freddie. Such delusional crap by snifflese. |
Iron Butterfly 27.02.2020 19:49 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Freddie was more natural performer in many ways. In every way.snifflese wrote: Adam is saving his energy for the vocals, which are way more important than running all over the stage like a madman. I have been to three QAL concerts and he moves a lot more than you think. I believe he tries to highlight Brian and not be zooming all over taking the limelight instead of Brian. In his own tours he can zoom quite a bit. If you move too much it can affect the vocals, however I doubt that is the issue since he can sing perfectly from a prone position which is extremely hard to do. Each performer is different and Freddie was the star so everyone watched him. Adam wants Brian to get his due so he isn't nearly so busy otherwise people would be more apt to follow him and not watch the others. YMMV. But I don't think it can be called laziness. Singing for close to 2 1/2 hours is draining no matter how much one moves on stage and his voice is never diminished, the same from start to finish, so he may also be conserving energy to sing really well. I would rather hear great singing than someone who darts all over and the vocals suffer. There is a fine line there. I am not speaking specifically about Freddie, but have noticed this with other performers who are much too frantic on stage and they don't sound as good as they should.I love how people use Brian as an excuse for Adam’s lack of athletics... I’ve watched Adam doing solo concerts... doing rap signs with his hands isn’t athletic. He enjoys standing in one place for the most part. Freddie’s vocals didn’t suffer from moving around. |