| Thistle 26.01.2020 20:11 |
link Only 41. Bit of a shocker. |
| Thistle 26.01.2020 20:12 |
And it doesn't matter what I do - that link ain't being made clickable. I've never had problems with links before. |
| stevelondon20 26.01.2020 20:22 |
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7931909/Kobe-Bryant-dies-Calabasas-helicopter-crash.html |
| stevelondon20 26.01.2020 20:24 |
Was just this second watching this on Sky News. Very sad indeed. |
| anadamfan 26.01.2020 20:37 |
Thistle wrote: And it doesn't matter what I do - that link ain't being made clickable. I've never had problems with links before.Delete the s: https-> http |
| Thistle 26.01.2020 21:06 |
^ I did, and it didn't work. Reverted back with the s - which also didn't work. Steve has just posted the EXACT same thing, and it works - LOL. Anyway, back on topic - not only is this a shocker, but it appears that his 13 year old daughter has also been killed in the crash. Really sad. |
| brENsKi 26.01.2020 21:10 |
just terrible news - another legend leaves too soon. Family obliterated in an instant. |
| pittrek 26.01.2020 21:11 |
The fuck? When Ive seen the title I wanted to write you that that's a very bad joke, but it looks like real. This year sucks :-( |
| SweetCaroline 26.01.2020 21:37 |
So sad. His daughter Gianna was with him and maybe one of her basketball teammates. |
| HelloDelilah 27.01.2020 07:35 |
This is so heartbreaking. He's one of the greatest athletes in my lifetime. So sad. :( |
| Iron Butterfly 27.01.2020 10:01 |
This has shaken me. Maybe it's because he was so young and his daughter passed away too. Very sad for everyone. ;'(. |
| Sebastian 27.01.2020 11:28 |
It's triggered feelings of grief on a lot of people, myself included. An extraordinary talent and a tragic loss for his family. The rest of the victims were massive losses as well, including some kids. |
| Iron Butterfly 27.01.2020 13:32 |
I've just seen a report that included footage of the crash site. I hate seeing things like that :(. |
| matt z 27.01.2020 23:59 |
Yes. Happened regionally "local". All indications are that they went to instruct a "Mamba" academy game er something in thousand oaks (city) under pretty lousy visibility with coastal fog (L.A. county has jets spraying jet streams of "cloud seeding" morning noon and night. *not condensation trails /con trails) ... But that may not have had much to do with it. Coastal fog happens more often in winter or rainy seasons (*which don't happen much here) the pilot was apparently licensed to fly in such hazardous conditions (poor vision) according to training involving "gauge readings etc" Sounds really negligent- but they may have done this commute routinely. Even the eyewitness account of a 61 yearold church guy states he didn't SEE what happened only interpreted the sound of a chopper hovering very low. I'm just grateful (*even if it's not myself or a friend) that it wasn't with all 4 daughters as falsely reported) There was a thorough NEW YORK TIMES post earlier today. Devastating for all concerned. |
| Thistle 28.01.2020 14:25 |
A Washington Post reporter has been put on leave after tweeting a link about a historical sexual assault case against Bryant. Her colleagues have issued a letter to the publication to condemn the decision. I didn't know he had been involved in a case like that. Seems he settled out of court? Anyone remember? |
| brENsKi 28.01.2020 17:21 |
yes, it was quite widely reported (back then) in 2003. he was 24 at the time. All is irrelevant though. Legend is no more, and a huge loss. |
| The Real Wizard 30.01.2020 14:53 |
Thistle wrote: A Washington Post reporter has been put on leave after tweeting a link about a historical sexual assault case against Bryant. Her colleagues have issued a letter to the publication to condemn the decision. I didn't know he had been involved in a case like that. Seems he settled out of court? Anyone remember?Yep, very well. He raped her and paid her off. She dropped the case after his legal team smeared her relentlessly. It was ugly. "After that point, she told police, he allegedly barred her from leaving the room, held her by the neck and forced her to have sex with him, then told her not to tell anybody. A subsequent medical examination at a hospital in Colorado found that the victim had multiple lacerations in the vaginal area that were "consistent with perpetuating genital trauma….not consistent with consensual sex," and that Bryant's T-shirt had blood spots around the waistline that matched the victim's DNA." 100% he raped her. There is no ambiguity. Great journalism here: link and here: link But he was also a massive ambassador for women's basketball. The greats sure can be complicated. Separate the art from the artist, as it were? Most of our heroes have skeletons in the closet. As per the journalist who retweeted the article, the Washington Post's stance on this issue is admirable - to "consistently urge restraint" in times like this. The body is still warm, so now is not the time. But then the question is - when IS the right time? When enough time has passed and nobody cares anymore? I'm kind of torn between the two. Ricky Gervais goes after Hollywood's friends of Weinstein at the Golden Globes and it's ok, but go after an athlete and it's game over. Of course the actors are alive and the athlete is dead, but there still seems to be a double standard at play here. Baby steps, I guess? |
| Thistle 30.01.2020 23:25 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Separate the art from the artist, as it were? Most of our heroes have skeletons in the closet.I kinda touched on this in the Dracula thread, saying how finding out that Klaus Kinski (allegedly) sexually assaulted his young daughter tainted my enjoyment of Nosferatu. I'm not sure how people can still love/respect celebs, whether they be actors, musicians or sports stars, when things like this become known. I haven't been able to separate the art from the artist, and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to. |
| john bodega 03.02.2020 03:14 |
Meh. He threw a ball really good? So what. Rape guy. I feel bad for the rest of the passengers though. |
| Saint Jiub 03.02.2020 03:31 |
"I love fucking Vale" - allegedly said by Kobe while sodomizing her bent over a wooden chair. The mainstream media has been suppressing Kobe's dark past ... link A Washington journalist got suspended for tweeting a link to a 2016 story about Kobe Bryant's rape case. |
| The Real Wizard 09.02.2020 04:51 |
Thistle wrote: I'm not sure how people can still love/respect celebs, whether they be actors, musicians or sports stars, when things like this become known. I haven't been able to separate the art from the artist, and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to.Keep trying. It's healthy to separate the two. Revere ideas, not people. Because the overwhelming majority of people (especially highly functioning ones) will eventually disappoint you. If they function that highly, something else has to switch off. It's a package deal. |
| rockchic65 09.02.2020 09:00 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I suppose it depends on what they've done, for example there's no way I could separate ideas from people when it comes to someone like Ian Watkins.Thistle wrote: I'm not sure how people can still love/respect celebs, whether they be actors, musicians or sports stars, when things like this become known. I haven't been able to separate the art from the artist, and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to.Keep trying. It's healthy to separate the two. Revere ideas, not people. Because the overwhelming majority of people (especially highly functioning ones) will eventually disappoint you. If they function that highly, something else has to switch off. It's a package deal. |
| The Real Wizard 09.02.2020 21:13 |
Of course, there are limits. |
| brENsKi 09.02.2020 22:29 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Of course, there are limits.although Watkins is, perhaps a terrible example. his "art" never particularly struck me as ever being worth a second listen. |