| Nathan H 22.12.2019 22:26 |
Is there any confirmation for this one for Jazz: Side A: Dead On Time Bicycle Race Fat Bottomed Girls Don't Stop Me Now Let Me Entertain You Side B: Mustapha Don't Say No (early working title for If You Can't Beat Them?) Jealousy Dreamers Ball Fun it Leaving Home Ain't Easy More Of That Jazz ---- Does anyone know any others? |
| cmi 23.12.2019 12:19 |
photo #1 photo #2 |
| Nathan H 23.12.2019 14:21 |
I've never seen those photos before, thanks for sharing cmi. |
| cobohall 23.12.2019 14:25 |
Don't Say No appears to be a working title for In Only 7 Days. |
| Lplix 23.12.2019 21:16 |
Just a question: these photos were taken in Montreux at the Queen experience? I wonder this because I seem to have seen them there. also I see in the background some tiles that seem to me like the scrabble displayed in the window where there are also their instruments. Thanks |
| The Real Wizard 23.12.2019 21:20 |
Interesting to see the phases the track listing went through. Looks like they shifted it around because they realized most of the strongest songs were on side 1. |
| brENsKi 23.12.2019 21:43 |
...which is typical of most rock albums: stack side one with the best stuff, |
| Golden Salmon 23.12.2019 21:53 |
cobohall wrote: Don't Say No appears to be a working title for In Only 7 Days.Hmmm, it's not like "Don't Say No" evokes anything from IOSD. Unknown song? |
| cobohall 24.12.2019 08:12 |
John may have had something else in mind lyrically at first. Then the song evolved and the working title no longer reflected the song's meaning. Remember, AOBTD started as a song about cowboys. |
| Nathan H 24.12.2019 08:37 |
Jazz's tracklisting has always dissatisfied me. The length of the sides are really unequal for starters and the simple fact that Fat Bottomed Girls and Bicycle Race aren't next to each other. Some of those are better but incomplete. Even if you just swapped If You Can't Beat Them with In Only Seven Days and Leaving Home Ain't Easy then it would only be a few seconds difference between the sides. |
| Cruella de Vil 24.12.2019 08:52 |
Sorry but who really cares if the sides of the LP are equal? |
| Martin Packer 24.12.2019 08:58 |
In the tape days you'd've cared a lot if the sides were unequal. Which is why with tape some tracks might get shifted to the other side. |
| Nathan H 24.12.2019 09:00 |
Cruella de Vil wrote: Sorry but who really cares if the sides of the LP are equal?1) It just shows that you care more about the theme or the ordering of the songs. There seems to be no correlation in the song order compared to earlier albums. 2) The fact that this album was longer than 44 minutes means that if you go more than 22 minutes over a side you lose quality so having one side 20:47 and the other 23:53 means that the quality will be better on the shorter one. 3) When the difference between two sides is more than two and a half minutes (in this case it's more than three minutes), it makes it look like they could've had another song on the album especially when there are several short songs on the album). Or it might just be me... |
| pynomadel 24.12.2019 10:01 |
thanks |
| Nathan H 24.12.2019 10:22 |
Does anyonw know whether this is an early tracklisting for the third installment of Deep Cuts: Made In Heaven Machines (Or 'Back To Humans') Is This The World We Created...? Tear It Up One Year Of Love Khashoggi's Ship Was It All Worth It Don't Try So Hard Bijou Ride The Wild Wind I Was Born To Love You It's A Beautiful Day (Reprise) A Winter's Tale The Hitman Mother Love |
| stevelondon20 24.12.2019 10:45 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote: Does anyonw know whether this is an early tracklisting for the third installment of Deep Cuts: Made In Heaven Machines (Or 'Back To Humans') Is This The World We Created...? Tear It Up One Year Of Love Khashoggi's Ship Was It All Worth It Don't Try So Hard Bijou Ride The Wild Wind I Was Born To Love You It's A Beautiful Day (Reprise) A Winter's Tale The Hitman Mother LoveNot sure. Here is the actual track listing. 1. "Made in Heaven" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Freddie Mercury 5:27 2. "Machines (Or 'Back to Humans')" (from The Works, 1984) Brian May, Roger Taylor 5:07 3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40 4. "Tear It Up" (from The Works, 1984) May 3:24 5. "I Was Born to Love You" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury 4:50 6. "A Winter's Tale" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:52 7. "Ride the Wild Wind" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Taylor) 4:43 8. "Bijou" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May) 3:37 9. "Was It All Worth It" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 5:45 10. "One Year of Love" (from A Kind Of Magic, 1986) John Deacon 4:27 11. "Khashoggi's Ship" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 2:52 12. "Is This the World We Created...?" (from The Works, 1984) Mercury, May 2:12 13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56 14. "It's a Beautiful Day (Reprise)" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:21 15. "Mother Love" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury, May 4:48 |
| Nathan H 24.12.2019 10:47 |
stevelondon20 wrote:It's the order in the booklet21st Century Music Fan wrote: Does anyonw know whether this is an early tracklisting for the third installment of Deep Cuts: Made In Heaven Machines (Or 'Back To Humans') Is This The World We Created...? Tear It Up One Year Of Love Khashoggi's Ship Was It All Worth It Don't Try So Hard Bijou Ride The Wild Wind I Was Born To Love You It's A Beautiful Day (Reprise) A Winter's Tale The Hitman Mother LoveNot sure. Here is the actual track listing. 1. "Made in Heaven" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Freddie Mercury 5:27 2. "Machines (Or 'Back to Humans')" (from The Works, 1984) Brian May, Roger Taylor 5:07 3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40 4. "Tear It Up" (from The Works, 1984) May 3:24 5. "I Was Born to Love You" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury 4:50 6. "A Winter's Tale" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:52 7. "Ride the Wild Wind" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Taylor) 4:43 8. "Bijou" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May) 3:37 9. "Was It All Worth It" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 5:45 10. "One Year of Love" (from A Kind Of Magic, 1986) John Deacon 4:27 11. "Khashoggi's Ship" (from The Miracle, 1989) Queen (Mercury) 2:52 12. "Is This the World We Created...?" (from The Works, 1984) Mercury, May 2:12 13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56 14. "It's a Beautiful Day (Reprise)" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Queen (Mercury) 3:21 15. "Mother Love" (from Made In Heaven, 1995) Mercury, May 4:48 |
| stevelondon20 24.12.2019 16:18 |
Ah ok. |
| The Real Wizard 24.12.2019 22:08 |
stevelondon20 wrote: 3. "Don't Try So Hard" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury) 3:40 13. "The Hitman" (from Innuendo, 1991) Queen (Mercury, May, Deacon) 4:56Wow - these two surprised me. I always thought Deacon at least co-write DTSH, and never would've thought he was in on The Hitman instead. |
| Golden Salmon 25.12.2019 22:14 |
^Oooh, I thought the exact same thing.
cobohall wrote: John may have had something else in mind lyrically at first. Then the song evolved and the working title no longer reflected the song's meaning. Remember, AOBTD started as a song about cowboys.Sure, but if you evolve the lyrics so much that it hardly resembles the original idea, is it still the same song? An early version might be an almost entirely different beast. A ship of Theseus case, maybe. |
| The Real Wizard 27.12.2019 02:19 |
Golden Salmon wrote: A ship of Theseus case, maybe.My respect for anyone who mentions this phenomenon in accurate context amplifies considerably. Well played. |
| brENsKi 27.12.2019 13:31 |
dbl post |
| brENsKi 27.12.2019 13:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote:and more to the point: how many people googled it?Golden Salmon wrote: A ship of Theseus case, maybe.My respect for anyone who mentions this phenomenon in accurate context amplifies considerably. Well played. would the same rule apply perfectly to existence of The Drifters? One band, 60+ members. two British sitcoms (both starring David Jason) actually used the same "Theseus' Ship" joke: |
| cobohall 28.12.2019 17:00 |
Golden Salmon wrote: ^Oooh, I thought the exact same thing.Maybe there is an entirely different song out there. Maybe it didn't evolve into IOSD. Maybe it did. Maybe Freddie got a hold of it and changed it enough that the title had to be changed. I don't know. Originally, I made the statement because both IYCBT and DSK were both on the track listings and IOSD wasn't.cobohall wrote: John may have had something else in mind lyrically at first. Then the song evolved and the working title no longer reflected the song's meaning. Remember, AOBTD started as a song about cowboys.Sure, but if you evolve the lyrics so much that it hardly resembles the original idea, is it still the same song? An early version might be an almost entirely different beast. A ship of Theseus case, maybe. |