| miraclesteinway 16.12.2019 16:20 |
I was up late last night and decided to look up "The Stonk", which I remember from when I was a child. I'd forgotten that Brian May was producer and played guitar, and in the video Roger is on drums. Further googling on the subject showed that in the credits list there is a thank you to Freddie Mercury, although he's not credited as having played on the record. However, in my opinion if you listen to one set of backing vocals from 2:42 to 2:50, one can unmistakably hear Freddie in there. What do you guys think? It was recorded late 1990 or early 1991 so it's absolutely feasible, and given the fact it's only three long notes it wouldn't have been too much for him to contribute at that time (don't want to make this yet another timeline on his demise please....) link |
| Stick 16.12.2019 16:36 |
Don't hear him so you can mistakenly hear him in there. |
| brENsKi 16.12.2019 16:50 |
I don't hear Freddie at all. If he's in there then it's well hidden. |
| cmsdrums 16.12.2019 21:29 |
It would seem odd to thank him specifically if he wasn’t involved someway - either arranging, producing, mixing or performing. If it were a simple thanks for giving up some Queen studio time for BM & RT to do it then you’d expect John to be thanked too (unless he was off skiing!) A question for Brian on his social media perhaps? |
| Donovan 17.12.2019 02:04 |
And people concerned about Brian and Roger ruining Queen's legacy by performing with Adam Lambert... If it was even remotely possible to ruin Queen's legacy, The Stonk would have done it years ago. |
| miraclesteinway 17.12.2019 04:42 |
My guess is that Freddie *did* appear on it, in those spatially large vocals, hidden in the mix to give it that huge sound that he was good at, and he didn't want a credit on it at the risk of it becoming a Queen track at that time. I know they'd done Man from Manhattan and You Nearly Did Me In, neither of which were credited to "Queen" but this is kind of different..... |
| emrabt 17.12.2019 12:30 |
They weren't very good comedians, but some of their song parody's were spot on. |
| miraclesteinway 17.12.2019 14:45 |
They were very much of their time, at a time when 35-40 years old was regarded as already past it. Their humour was somewhat... how can I put it, yeah crap, but there's a word I'm looking for |
| Star* 17.12.2019 16:41 |
Nonsense Freddie was way too ill to be making guest appearances on other artists records so i think someone is telling porkies on the credits! |
| miraclesteinway 21.12.2019 22:48 |
in 1990 he could easily have contributed a three note chord to a single, and decided not to appear in the video. |
| Star* 22.12.2019 09:59 |
Freddie hated been around people he never knew so i doubt he contributed anything . |
| miraclesteinway 22.12.2019 23:12 |
He wouldn't have had to have been there..... if he did it, they'd have taken the recording in and Brian would have said "hey Fred I've got this to do" |
| brENsKi 23.12.2019 08:24 |
BQT8. wrote:Freddie hated been around people he never knew so i doubt he contributed anything . miraclesteinway wrote:He wouldn't have had to have been there..... if he did it, they'd have taken the recording in and Brian would have said "hey Fred I've got this to do"Exactly. A somewhat startling failure to grasp that appearance on a recording does not depend upon "been [sic] around people he never knew" - even back in the 1980s. Obviously, Geraldine has absolutely no awareness of the recording process. However, given that Geraldine MUST at least be aware of the Made In Heaven LP - perhaps it's just arguing for the sake of it. Geraldine will be telling us next that (s)he never heard of the Beatles 1990s hits Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" - both with the vocals sourced from Lennon's own 4-track home demos. |
| Star* 23.12.2019 11:40 |
@Brenski You are wrong about that Beatles question because my brother is a huge Beatles fan and has all the albums. Queen & Beatles in the family means we have good taste in our house ! |
| brENsKi 23.12.2019 15:55 |
BQT8. wrote:@Brenski You are wrong about that Beatles question because my brother is a huge Beatles fan and has all the albums. Queen & Beatles in the family means we have good taste in our house !Well, if that really was the case, then you'd be aware of the fact that artists do NOT need to be present during a final recording/mixing of a track...which (more or less) casts you as the idiot we all know you to be. then why say this: BQT8. wrote:Freddie hated been around people he never knew so i doubt he contributed anything . |
| Star* 23.12.2019 17:49 |
I said that because i have heard many close friends of Freddie say he hated been around new people and old friends had to be around him to make him feel more comfortable if new people were going to be there. In fact on the Freddie Mercury christmas story that was on CH5 last week Freddie's drive said just that. |
| brENsKi 23.12.2019 21:45 |
BQT8. wrote: I said that because i have heard many close friends of Freddie say he hated been around new people and old friends had to be around him to make him feel more comfortable if new people were going to be there. In fact on the Freddie Mercury christmas story that was on CH5 last week Freddie's drive said just that.but you don't need to be around "anyone" to record a vocal track, |
| Penetration_Guru 24.12.2019 12:27 |
miraclesteinway wrote: My guess is that Freddie *did* appear on it,You asked the question, nobody agreed, and so you....kept repeating your opinion. Great discussion skills.... It could be as random as he lent his car to collect someone. If he appeared on it, it would make sense to credit him as "Backing Vocals" to increase the sale-ability. How much drumming to we think Rowan Atkinson actually did on the recording, and yet he's credited... |
| Star* 24.12.2019 15:56 |
Freddie would not contribute to such tat . |
| Sebastian 24.12.2019 20:44 |
Well... 'The Stonk' is still way better than 'Delilah', by far. |
| brENsKi 24.12.2019 22:18 |
Sebastian wrote:Well... 'The Stonk' is still way better than 'Delilah', by far.absolutely! BQT8. wrote:Freddie would not contribute to such tat .Oh, the silent majesty of a winter's morn... the clean, cool chill of the holiday air... Gerry in his bathrobe, emptying a chemical toilet into a sewer... |
| Star* 25.12.2019 09:28 |
Oh Christmas morning and Brenski finds himself in a skip covered in vomit , lovely. |
| brENsKi 25.12.2019 15:56 |
BQT8. wrote:Oh Christmas morning and Brenski finds himself in a skip covered in vomit , lovely.on Christmas morning, Brenski finds himself soaking up 30 degrees of sunshine in Agadir, Morocco - so wrong again Geraldine. |
| Star* 26.12.2019 09:35 |
@Brenski Yet again you made a spelling mistake, your grammar is terrible and shows your lack of education. Getraldine. is spelt Geraldine ! Silly man. |
| brENsKi 26.12.2019 15:22 |
BQT8. wrote: @Brenski Yet again you made a spelling mistake, your grammar is terrible and shows your lack of education. Getraldine. is spelt Geraldine ! Silly man.as I said - am typing on touch tablet, because travel luggage limits do not allow for a tower PC - but just for you, I've corrected it. Strange that - even with the hindrance of a touch-tablet virtual keyboard, my spelling and grammar is still better than yours - and you have the advantage (clearly disadvantage in your case) of a keyboard. If only YOU corrected all of your errors on here [sic] - now that would be refreshing. Extremely unlikely - but refreshing nonetheless. I'm signing off in a short while to catch my flight back to the cold UK. Try and keep yourself amused Geraldine. that peace offering still stands, Geraldine. The wise thing to do would be to accept it. My best guess is you will be the first person to flagellate themselves with an olive branch - kind of iromoronic - but par for your own particular course. |
| Star* 27.12.2019 16:19 |
@Brenski Please stop speaking in a Theresa May kind of language because i am human and not a machine. |
| brENsKi 27.12.2019 17:53 |
BQT8. wrote:because i am human.debatable |
| Vocal harmony 27.12.2019 17:57 |
BQT8. wrote: @Brenski Please stop speaking in a Theresa May kind of language because i am human and not a machine.I thought Brenski was posting in English, it's a fairly common language but one you seem to have problems understanding, writing, maybe reading and therefore communicating in. Even though you're British. Unfortunately on one here is fluent in common Dunce which would seem to be your preferred method of communication on this site |
| Star* 28.12.2019 10:15 |
@Vocal Harmony Nothing wrong with my english sweetie, shall i prove that for you? You are a shallow minded bitch who likes to cause trouble on here with your constant put downs but i been the better person here understands that you have such a sad existence so will only pity you. You are fluent in one thing and that is been a bully and a disgrace calling yourself a Queen fan. You do not know the real meaning of been a Queen fan as you only like to come on here nit picking and slagging my comments because you know i am a proper ardent Queen fan and you just cannot bear anyone praising Freddie. Educate yourself bitch it is more rewarding than bullying folk on this site. |
| Stick 28.12.2019 10:43 |
And this is why I laughed so hard in another thread when you described yourself with the words mature, nice and respectable. You are and will always be just a piece of shit that just won't float away in the sewer from which you speak your garbage to us. Aside from that, don't you get tired of calling everyone who disagrees with you or calls you out on your bullshit a bully? It's so incredibly boring to read. |
| brENsKi 28.12.2019 11:44 |
BQT8. wrote:[color=blue]@Vocal Harmony Nothing wrong with my english sweetie, shall i prove that for you? You are a shallow minded bitch who likes to cause trouble on here with your constant put downs but i been the better person here understands that you have such a sad existence so will only pity you. You are fluent in one thing and that is been a bully and a disgrace calling yourself a Queen fan. You do not know the real meaning of been a Queen fan as you only like to come on here nit picking and slagging my comments because you know i am a proper ardent Queen fan and you just cannot bear anyone praising Freddie. Educate yourself bitch it is more rewarding than bullying folk on this site.[/color]You begin by stating your English is good. Why are you so lacking in self awareness and your own limitations as to type such an iromoronic (new Brenski word, I've used it twice, now) sentence. Oh well, challenge accepted. Your claim demanded this so hold tight: I've gone easy on you on here [sic] - only correctling the basic errors: BQT8. wrote:@Vocal Harmony Nothing wrong with my red sweetie, shall red prove that for you? You are a shallow minded bitch who likes to cause trouble on here red with your constant put downsred but red been the better person here red that you have such a sad existence so will only pity you. You are fluent in one thing and that is red a bully and a disgrace calling yourself a Queen fan. You do not know the real meaning of red a Queen fan as you only like to come on hereIncidentally, oh wise sage - pray tell - what the f**k is "the real meaning of being a Queen fan? |
| Star* 28.12.2019 13:10 |
Brenski: I do not need to be judged by you or anyone else on here so back off. You are an arrogant little prick and you think you can just attack anyone even though they have not done anything to you, I am starting to think that Vocal Harmony & Brenski are the same person because your styles of been rude and arrogant are identical, The true meaning of been a true Queen fan is enjoying there music and worshipping the band , making the band your number one favourite and never accept new versions of the band when it goes limp and boring. Originality must always come first and that means defending Freddie as he was the one that made Queen happen. Don't bother replying because i am not interested in your one sided arrogant replies. tell your alter ego Vocal Harmony to climb over a cliff and jump. |
| brENsKi 28.12.2019 14:16 |
BQT8. wrote:Brenski: You are an arrogant little prick and you think you can just attack anyone even though they have not done anything to you, I am starting to think that Vocal Harmony & Brenski are the same person because your styles of been rude and arrogant are identicalI've only ever reacted to your attacks. You can't stand being corrected. You make statements like " Nothing wrong with my english sweetie," riddled with spelling, grammatical and general language errors. Someone making those kind of grandiose statements is attention-seeking and demanding a response. Every single insult/profanity I've ever levelled at you has been 1] wholly accurate, and 2] retaliation to an insult you aired first - primarily because a shactoid you'd proclaimed, was proven to be untrue. No we're not the same - and neither are the other four/five people who regularly irk you. Strange that, the person unfoundedly accusing others of being one person, is the self-same person who has had approximately ONE DOZEN usernames - many having been banned. Talk about iromoronic. BQT8. wrote:The true meaning of been a true Queen fan is enjoying there music and worshipping the band , making the band your number one favourite and never accept new versions of the band when it goes limp and boring. Originality must always come first and that means defending Freddie as he was the one that made Queen happen.What a complete an utter load of tosh! If that really is your mantra, then you are in dangerous (stepford) territory - take a step back and conduct some kind of personal re-assessment, because, frankly, Queen are far too important a part of your life for you to function adequately in normal society. BQT8. wrote:Don't bother replying because i am not interested in your one sided arrogant replies. tell your alter ego Vocal Harmony to climb over a cliff and jump.You have the articulation prowess of a cabbage. If you're not interested (liar, you clearly are) then why keep replying. If you just shut the fuck up, stopped replying to people, then people wouldn't have anything to reply to, would they? BTW how the fuck does one "climb over a cliff and jump"? Once you've "climbed over" there's no ground to be standing on (you're already falling) - and the act of jumping requires a standing point. |
| Star* 28.12.2019 19:02 |
Brenski you are thick as fuck, that is why i said climb over a cliff jeeeeeeeeeeez no wonder the prison services are shit if the likes of you have been running them. |
| Vocal harmony 28.12.2019 19:28 |
How many people do you think I am. Over the last year you've claimed I am Rockchic, The Real Wizard, Holly, The Circle of Eidilon and a number of others now I'm brENsKi. It seems that anyone who doesn't agree with you in some way must be me. This may surprise you but there are actually a large number of Queenfans on here who would be quite pleased if you fucked off, as for climbing over a cliff, that would require a lot of rope and some rock climbing skills, maybe you could just jump off a cliff for us all. |
| Holly2003 28.12.2019 19:59 |
"BTW how the fuck does one "climb over a cliff and jump"? Once you've "climbed over" there's no ground to be standing on (you're already falling) - and the act of jumping requires a standing point." I Vocal Harmony, find this comment made by myself, to be very amusing. |
| Stick 28.12.2019 20:50 |
Vocal harmony wrote: This may surprise you but there are actually a large number of Queenfans on here who would be quite pleased if you fucked off, as for climbing over a cliff, that would require a lot of rope and some rock climbing skills, maybe you could just jump off a cliff for us all.Quoted for truth. |
| brENsKi 28.12.2019 22:32 |
Holly2003 wrote: "BTW how the fuck does one "climb over a cliff and jump"? Once you've "climbed over" there's no ground to be standing on (you're already falling) - and the act of jumping requires a standing point." I Vocal Harmony, find this comment made by myself, to be very amusing.hehe, bastard. ;-) |
| Star* 29.12.2019 10:16 |
@ Arrr Vocal Harmony You are the virus on this site my dear, you are prevalent as shit on a farmyard path. Let us walk all over you and smudge it in all over the place, and treat you for what you are really worth absolutely fucking nothing ! Even Liam Gallagher would disown you and we all know he is a complete knob lol |
| Vocal harmony 30.12.2019 11:38 |
BQT8. wrote: @ Arrr Vocal Harmony I am the virus on this site my dear, I am prevalent as shit on a farmyard path. You should walk all over me and smudge it in all over the place, and treat me for what I am really worth absolutely fucking nothing ! Even Liam Gallagher would disown me and we all know he is a complete knob lolAll true, but you're not telling us anything we don't already know. |
| Penetration_Guru 02.01.2020 12:17 |
Well, this pissing contest is far better than the original "discussion" point, so thanks to all for that |