QueenZone discussion #1579437
Good or bad Queen year ??
| philip storey 10.12.2019 21:57 |
How do you rate 2019 as far as live concerts and releases ? Are you happy ? Or do you think it has been awful ? Have your say, I think it has been a bit dire,i am not interested in Queen & AL although they are very popular. Mind you so was syphilis back in the day. Freddies box set was pretty boring,i was so hoping for a Live Killers box set at the very least. |
| badboybez 10.12.2019 21:58 |
Shit |
| matt z 10.12.2019 23:13 |
Good for the active duty members Brian and Roger. Bad for film and releases. Heard that some liked the MBG remixes though. I still haven't bothered with em. Great postings put up here however. You guys are more commendable than QPL. Give yourselves a pat on the back ;) |
| GreatKingFairyFeller 11.12.2019 01:46 |
Overall it was a good year for Queen. Note that I say Queen. For the fans though it was kind of mixed. The Ballet for life release and never boring weren’t bad, but we didn’t need that stuff. We wanted Live Killers 40 or Hammy 79, not a ballet film that no one asked for. For me it was an average year. It wasn’t as great as last year, but still a descent year. Their doing strong on their tour with Adam and it seems they aren’t stopping for awhile. 2020 will probably be another bland year in my opinion. |
| MemeOverlord69 11.12.2019 05:35 |
For us fans of the live stuff, it's been a wonderful year. Lots of new goodies have arrived. Lyon 79 Kobe 79 Santa Monica 76 Complete Sapporo 5/5/79 Complete Kobe 75 Complete Yamaguchi 79 Tokyo 5/8/85 Alt Source Empress Valley Tokyo 76 Box Set Champions Shoot upgrade More shall come soon. I'm sure of it. |
| pittrek 11.12.2019 07:28 |
Concerts? I don't care about QAL. Releases? Which releases? I honestly can't remember what they released this year, I remember I didn't think it's worth downloading for free and now a few months later I don't remember what it was. So ... from my point of view huge disappointment. |
| Nathan H 11.12.2019 10:20 |
This year has been great. The band now have a new generation of fans. I don't think the band have ever been so successful on a global scale. Q+AL shows the demand for Queen, people want to see Queen live - there's just that minority which don't appreciate it even though on the whole is great for Queen's legacy. |
| Holly2003 11.12.2019 10:40 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote: The band now have a new generation of fans.Why do you feel that's important? 21st Century Music Fan wrote: Q+AL shows the demand for Queen, people want to see Queen live - there's just that minority which don't appreciate it even though on the whole is great for Queen's legacy.How is it great for their legacy? |
| brENsKi 11.12.2019 14:24 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote:Q+AL shows the demand for Queen, people want to see Queen live - there's just that minority which don't appreciate it even though on the whole is great for Queen's legacy.band lineup changes work when they maintain/improve upon the product quality of the original lineup. Deep Purple mkII and mkIII did so. Various incarnations of UFO did. Iron Maiden's second lineup did. Pink Floyd did. ELO did. Queen+AL does not do this. There has been no "product" and the live gigs are not really a queen show...they're and Adam Lambert show singing karaoke Queen - with "authentic" backing band. |
| RS_Protos 11.12.2019 15:01 |
Will be another year of concerts and crappy releases |
| stevelondon20 11.12.2019 18:56 |
God, so much fucking moaning. Just enjoy Brian and Roger's output while they are still on this mortal coil. |
| RS_Protos 11.12.2019 19:40 |
It's not moaning, it's reality |
| stevelondon20 11.12.2019 20:28 |
RS_Protos wrote: It's not moaning, it's realityReality that the boys are still touring? Are you always this miserable? |
| RS_Protos 11.12.2019 20:42 |
I'm not miserable at all, I'm very happy and I hope you have a great time at the shows, personally I don't care if they are still touring, but reality is this produces crappy releases, not sure why you don't get that...…….. |
| stevelondon20 11.12.2019 22:43 |
I do get the releases bit mate. |
| Jimmy Dean 12.12.2019 15:42 |
It's been a bad year |
| brENsKi 12.12.2019 15:50 |
Jimmy Dean wrote: It's been a bad yearI'd have to agree. Over the last few years, we've had deluxe releases and a couple of box sets - but the longed-for anthologies (for us completists) appear further away than ever before. |
| Star* 12.12.2019 19:50 |
Very bad year for Real Queen fans and quite a good year for plastic fake fans who support the regime of Q+ crap. |
| mooghead 12.12.2019 22:46 |
"Good or bad Queen year ??" Which year is that then? 1974? |
| brENsKi 12.12.2019 23:00 |
stevelondon20 wrote:God, so much fucking moaning. Just enjoy Brian and Roger's output while they are still on this mortal coil.it's not moaning. it's objectivity. people either love it or hate it. i respect people's right to love it, but i don't. there are singers out there that I'd go and see singing with Queen - but unfortunately, most of them are either dead - or don't want the gig anyway. i'm glad that you are enjoying this lineup, but you shouldn't really be dissing the opinions of those who don't like it. |
| Nathan H 13.12.2019 07:50 |
Holly2003 wrote:1. The success of the band in the future after the older generation have gone it will guarantee that there will still be many fans of the group.21st Century Music Fan wrote: The band now have a new generation of fans.Why do you feel that's important?21st Century Music Fan wrote: Q+AL shows the demand for Queen, people want to see Queen live - there's just that minority which don't appreciate it even though on the whole is great for Queen's legacy.How is it great for their legacy? 2. To prove that Queen are still a successful, popular band. They have always been a great live band and in my opinion still do today (I'm ignoring Adam because you'll just complain, I'm just thinking about the backing band). Their harmonies are all live - and my god they can all sing. Did you see that recent Queen documentary? I bet you didn't. Their musicial backing is top notch and they rarely have mistakes or technical mishaps. In my opinion, you shouldn't be moaning about Q+AL without watching that documentary, because some of your points are out of context. You can see the real meaning and why they are even still performing. And, I'd say no more than a third of it mentions or involves Adam - it's a Queen documentary for the first 20-25 minutes. |
| Holly2003 13.12.2019 10:11 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote:I didn't make any points, nor did I mention Lambert. I asked if you could explain your points. But your answer, such as it is, just leads to more questions. Regardless of how popular Queen were/are/will be, the music remains the same, doesn't it? For example, BoRap remains the same song whether one person or a million people like it. Having a new generation of fans doesn't change that.Holly2003 wrote:1. The success of the band in the future after the older generation have gone it will guarantee that there will still be many fans of the group. 2. To prove that Queen are still a successful, popular band. They have always been a great live band and in my opinion still do today (I'm ignoring Adam because you'll just complain, I'm just thinking about the backing band). Their harmonies are all live - and my god they can all sing. Did you see that recent Queen documentary? I bet you didn't. Their musicial backing is top notch and they rarely have mistakes or technical mishaps. In my opinion, you shouldn't be moaning about Q+AL without watching that documentary, because some of your points are out of context. You can see the real meaning and why they are even still performing. And, I'd say no more than a third of it mentions or involves Adam - it's a Queen documentary for the first 20-25 minutes.21st Century Music Fan wrote: The band now have a new generation of fans.Why do you feel that's important?21st Century Music Fan wrote: Q+AL shows the demand for Queen, people want to see Queen live - there's just that minority which don't appreciate it even though on the whole is great for Queen's legacy.How is it great for their legacy? I don't really understand your second point -- "To prove that Queen are still a successful, popular band". Who do "Queen" need to prove this too and in any event, why is that important? It might be important if they (Brian May & Roger Taylor) were making new music under the Queen banner but they're not. As Roger admitted, Queen is now just a brand; Queen Productions is the company behind the brand. The first task of any business is to stay in business, and Queen Productions are VERY good at that. It's a paradigm of how to make money. It's the same business model that Jim Beach proposed to Monty Python, which made them a ton of money to pay off debts they owed after losing a court case. That model is to give fans all the well known brand material and don't do anything new. So Monty Python did a series of concerts in which they told 40 year old jokes and did almost nothing new. Does that ring a bell with regard to Queen+? I've seen the documentary you mentioned. It's hardly a probing analysis of the band. Like most Queen Productions documentaries, it's merely an advertisement for the band. And it makes the same basic error that you do, that popularity somehow equals musical quality. Let me make your point for you: the continuing success of the Queen brand might lead to more archival stuff being released to meet demand from fans. There is some evidence that has been happening with regard to interviews. News companies have been digging through their old tapes so they can ride the popularity of the movie in particular. But there is little evidence that archival music will be released. For example, I know a Live Killers release has been talked about for a while (and maybe hinted at again by Brian recently). However, I believe it would have been released in 2019 if it were not for Q+AL. Almost all of Brian and Roger's focus is on live shows and almost none on the archives. So it's likely the "success" you mention has delayed archival releases. It's likely none of this matters. A few years ago I was very engaged and excited with the idea of archive releases. Now it's unlikely I would buy them if they were released. For me, the moment has come and gone for physical product. It's a niche market now and for that reason I think it's unlikely we will see anything substantial released. |
| Star* 13.12.2019 12:10 |
Queen's legacy is now stained because of that tit Adam Lambert he has turned the band into a freak fest. Queen as a quartet was brilliant and unbeatable and today technically that band Queen does not exist. Brian still pretends its Queen but come on we all know its not. They look so lost and fragile without John & Freddie now. |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 12:24 |
100% wrote:Queen's legacy is now stained because of that tit Adam Lambert he has turned the band into a freak fest.Queen as a quartet was brilliant and unbeatable and today technically that band Queen does not exist. Brian still pretends its Queen but come on we all know its not. They look so lost and fragile without John & Freddie now.You can't know (for sure) that they look fragile - unless you've been watching it all evolve. i don't understand your approach. I don't like the Queen+AL thing - so I don't watch it. If you hate it so much, why are you paying it so much attention? Possible reasons: 1. Some deep-rooted masochistic tendencies within your psyche. 2. You secretly love what they're doing - a guilty pleasure, but you feel you have to say how much you hate it in order to balance out the internal conflicts Q+AL causes you. 3. You're rubber-necking a slow-motion car-crash and can't take your eyes off it. Maybe good to look away now, as it'll be a long time before you witness any impact. 4. You just love having something to moan, dis and argue the living sh*t out of. |
| Star* 13.12.2019 15:05 |
@Brenski There you go again trying to cause trouble on yet another fucking thread. Cant you just join in with the conversation instead of been a troll and slagging every post i participate in? You obviously have a problem stalking me around this site, so sort yourself out. I think you have something wrong with your head . |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 15:19 |
100% wrote:@Brenski There you go again trying to cause trouble on yet another fucking thread. Cant you just join in with the conversation instead of been a troll and slagging every post i participate in? You obviously have a problem stalking me around this site, so sort yourself out. I think you have something wrong with your head .I haven't slagged you off "on here" [sic]. You made a statement that: 100% wrote:brownI merely asked why you are so interested in something you hate so much. It's a fair question. I even presented some possible reasons "why" your focus on Q+AL might be so intense. If NONE of those are the actual reasons for your Q+AL interest, then tell us "why". It's not "trying to cause trouble" - it's debate and discussion. I'm genuinely interested why you are so occupied with Q+AL. Just seems such a waste devoting negative energy to something you have "no interest in". |
| Star* 13.12.2019 15:31 |
@Brenski You will get no reply from me what i think or why because my opinions are only for real Queen fans, jog on. |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 15:42 |
SW10 wrote:@Brenski You will get no reply from me what i think or why because my opinions are only for real Queen fans, jog on.change of username again, Geraldine? wtf is that about? sixteen personalities - all entirely identical thuggish, unintelligible bigots. well done. doesn't matter how you dress yourself up Geraldine - a turd in a ribbon still stinks of shit...and you are stinking out this place. |
| Nathan H 13.12.2019 15:47 |
I just hate reading or hearing negative stuff about my favourite band. I try to be positive because I'm that sort of person. You just have to treat everyday like it's the last. |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 16:54 |
21st Century Music Fan wrote:I just hate reading or hearing negative stuff about my favourite band. I try to be positive because I'm that sort of person. You just have to treat everyday like it's the last.I understand that. especially if you feel like the band is something close to you - almost like a friend. but fact of life: disagreement with our friends and relatives is still possible. it doesn't mean you hate them, it just means not everything is "hearts and flowers". |
| Star* 13.12.2019 18:06 |
Brenski Yeah i change my name to piss you and others off its fucking hilarious ! ha ha ha |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 18:38 |
purpleWhy would you think it either "pisses us off" or is "hilarious" ? It 100% (see what I did there?) doesn't and isn't. And, BTW, re this: purpleYou are 100% (I did it again haha) incapable of keeping your own word. ^ |
| Saint Jiub 13.12.2019 21:54 |
SJW 10 wrote: There you go again trying to cause trouble on yet another fucking thread leave me alone on here because I am a looser snowflake and cannot find my safe zone on here |
| brENsKi 13.12.2019 22:54 |
SW10 wrote:@Brenski There you go again trying to cause troubleJeremy Kyle phoned with your DNA test results...they can't find any DNA...at all. |
| Star* 14.12.2019 07:36 |
Brenski You see you have the fucking nerve to call me trolling on here and what are you doing then trolling, You are obsessed with me i bet your a closet gay on the side lol |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 07:45 |
SW10 wrote:Brenski You are obsessed with me i bet your a closet gay on the side lolyou're a closet human - on the side [sic]. |
| Star* 14.12.2019 13:32 |
Well this is my last message on this thread because your just getting ridiculously stupid now. i will not be replying to anymore of your comments because its obvious you just crave the attention to show off to your twisted pals on here. One of us is the better person and it aint you. |
| runner_70 14.12.2019 13:48 |
ANother year of shitty QAL and Lamebird so it must have been a crappy year. The annoying movie got its BluRay release The annoying and shitty sounding remixes of MBG (with a new Bass ?!?!) WTF) aka "Sad cash GRab" was released The expected Live Killers set was not. ll in all - a disaster of a year. Next year wont be much better. QAL again and again and again and probably a Miracle Boxset - their worst album by far almost any "unreleased" stuff is already available. End of Story. Look at Archive releases from Floyd and Whitesnake. Thats how it is done! |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 13:59 |
runner_70 wrote:ll in all - a disaster of a year. Next year wont be much better. QAL again and again and again and probably a Miracle Boxset - their worst album by far almost any "unreleased" stuff is already available. End of Story. Look at Archive releases from Floyd and Whitesnake. Thats how it is done!While I agree with you [which may be a first - as you could be Gerry in disguise), I do wonder why you would ever hold out for any new releases. Bands no longer make money from music releases. Touring makes money. The occasional Greatest Hits / Live Compilation will make some money too. Deluxe Boxsets were last decade's thing - they probably didn't make much money then - but it'd be so much less revenue now. |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 14:04 |
green SW10 wrote:Brenski You see you have the fucking nerve to call me trolling on here and what are you doing then trolling, You are obsessed with me i bet your a closet gay on the side lolC'mon Gerladine. Admit it - you wish you'd thought of the DNA comment first. |
| Star* 14.12.2019 14:33 |
To be honest i am not bothered what you think. You are an attention seeking troll who likes to control the situation that is because you have been in the prisons too long you like to bully people. You need to get help for your P.T.S.D problem. You have screwed up three threads on here with your constant blabbering on trying to cause more arguments. I guess you could cause a row in an empty phone box by yourself. I understand you are a disturbed individual and have issues so i wont report you because Richard wont know what to say to you cos he aint got any experience of psycho maniacs like you. |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 14:42 |
SW10 wrote:DarkMagentaWell - you obviously DO CARE what I think. If you didn't you wouldn't keep replying - at least six posts after saying you would never reply to me again. You have a distinct lack of command of English if you are unable to grasp the meaning of an uncomplicated word like "never". SW10 wrote:[color=DarkMagenta]You need to get help for your P.T.S.D problem. I understand you are a disturbed individual and have issues so i wont report you because Richard wont know what to say to you cos he aint got any experience of psycho maniacs like you.[/color]Make your mind up Geraldine. Either something (PTSD) caused me to be like this - or it's "psycho maniacs" [sic] SW10 wrote:DarkMagentaPhone box isn't empty if I'm in it - you dullard! |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 14:56 |
SW10 wrote:Brenski You see you have the fucking nerve to call me trolling on here and what are you doing then trolling,I have never called you a troll red [sic]. I don't know (exactly) where you live, however, should you confirm to us that you do blue - then I'd be happy to start calling you a troll. |
| Star* 14.12.2019 20:16 |
Empty phone box with nobody else in it but you you dunce Jeeeeeeeeeez How does your wife put up with a cunt like you i just do not know duh !! |
| brENsKi 14.12.2019 22:17 |
SW10 wrote:Empty phone box with nobody else in it but you you dunce Jeeeeeeeeeez How does your wife put up with a cunt like you i just do not know duh !!I've just realised the significance of your new username: SW = Stupid Wanker 10 = your IQ game over dipshit |
| Star* 15.12.2019 10:31 |
Game is not over Brenski and your the shit wipe on here not me pal. I pity you a lot because you have got no integrity or dignity especially if you did work in the prisons and using all this smut on here against me. Just shows prisons employ shit never mind looking after shit behind bars, your like demented inmate. |
| Chen 15.12.2019 10:37 |
Appreciated nice link |
| brENsKi 15.12.2019 10:50 |
SW10 wrote:Game is not over Brenski and your the shit wipe on here not me pal. I pity you a lot because you have got no integrity or dignity especially if you did work in the prisons and using all this smut on here against me. Just shows prisons employ shit never mind looking after shit behind bars, your like demented inmate....and punctuation, grammar, coherence and any form of literacy are complete strangers to you. |
| Star* 15.12.2019 14:25 |
OH dear are we back at school sir ! ha ha ha |
| RS_Protos 16.12.2019 13:40 |
"Bands no longer make money from music releases. Touring makes money. The occasional Greatest Hits / Live Compilation will make some money too. Deluxe Boxsets were last decade's thing - they probably didn't make much money then - but it'd be so much less revenue now." Perfectly said which proves it's all about the money and not about "missing playing live" etc comments, they can care less what few longtime fans want, if they are not cashing in they wont do it. |
| brENsKi 16.12.2019 14:44 |
RS_Protos wrote:Well - regardless of those "we love the fans" "playing music is all that matters" and other timeless bullshit platitudes - ever was it thus - money is what makes people form bands, become singers, actors, comedians etcbrENsKi wrote:Bands no longer make money from music releases. Touring makes money. The occasional Greatest Hits / Live Compilation will make some money too. Deluxe Boxsets were last decade's thing - they probably didn't make much money then - but it'd be so much less revenue now.Perfectly said which proves it's all about the money and not about "missing playing live" etc comments, they can care less what few longtime fans want, if they are not cashing in they wont do it. Any other claims - at any artist's career stage is just trite nonsense |
| Star* 16.12.2019 16:31 |
I very much doubt May & Taylor need the money as they are multi millionaires at that ! They love playing live only they are not bothered who takes lead vocals now. I believe Queen's recording days are finished now and they will not ever record another note. |
| Stick 16.12.2019 16:40 |
If they were not bothered than why only tour with 1 guy? Seems like they are bothered in his favour. As for recording, you never know. Believe what you will but unless they confirm it and die after without a new recording, it's still possible. |
| Star* 16.12.2019 16:59 |
They hang around with Lambert because he has a good following of girls . Trust me Adam has ruled out new music with Queen and Brian and Roger cannot be arsed going into recording studios at there age. |
| Stick 16.12.2019 17:02 |
Unless you know the future, which you can't, you never know. Like I explained, it's possible till they die or are physically unable to anymore. Also never heard that argument from them as to why they tour with Lambert so I don't think your right about that. |
| Star* 16.12.2019 17:53 |
Adam Is current and fresh plus he got all the attention on American Idol so Brian been coy invited him to join Queen. Brian knew if he could get Lambert on board then Queen would start been in the limelight again. Although many hate the combo and think they are a parody of themselves some actually think they are still a serious rock outfit, how strange is that ? There are still Queen by brand but certainly not by name. |
| brENsKi 16.12.2019 18:00 |
BQT8. wrote:Trust me Adam has ruled out new music with Queen and Brian and Roger cannot be arsed going into recording studios at there age.This is a ridiculous thing to say for two reasons: 1. Touring has to be ten times as arduous as "going into a studio" to record. 2. Other bands the same age as Brian and Roger have recorded new albums in addition to performing live tours. ELO - "Alone in the Universe" (2015), "From Out of Nowhere" (2019). Both albums sandwiched nicely between three tours. Deep Purple: "Now What" (2013) tour started before LP and continues to this day. Who: "Who" (2019) - again in addition to a 2019 tour Paul McCartney - "Rest" (2017) touring before LP and through to 2019 & 2020 The ONLY reason for not recording a new LP is that music sales do NOT make the artists any real money these days. ALL real money is made form touring. |
| Stick 16.12.2019 18:34 |
BQT8. wrote: Adam Is current and fresh plus he got all the attention on American Idol so Brian been coy invited him to join Queen. Brian knew if he could get Lambert on board then Queen would start been in the limelight again.Those are completely different arguments and don't refute what I said about your original one. |
| brENsKi 16.12.2019 18:45 |
Stick wrote:So Geraldine DOES like Lambert after all?BQT8. wrote: Adam Is current and fresh plus he got all the attention on American Idol so Brian been coy invited him to join Queen. Brian knew if he could get Lambert on board then Queen would start been in the limelight again.Those are completely different arguments and don't refute what I said about your original one. Significant fact: Despite Geraldine's protests to the contrary - and undeniable influence with the higher echelons in QPL, Queen+AL have been together now 11 years! - That's more than half of Freddie's tenure in the band! |
| Stick 16.12.2019 18:54 |
Has it been 11 years already? Damn time flies. |
| brENsKi 16.12.2019 19:03 |
Stick wrote:Has it been 11 years already? Damn time flies.well - not quite. 2009 was the American Idol performance, but 2011 was when AL joined the band - i believe. But the point is no less valid. He's established as a band member - until he or Bri/Rog decided to stop. |
| Stick 16.12.2019 20:06 |
Probably yeah. But I see him more as Spike Edney on the Magic Tour, just helping them out on stage a bit :p |
| ITSM 17.12.2019 00:14 |
I don't think this year has been interesting Queen-wise, but I like the Freddie-releases, because now more of his songs are on Spotify. Unfortunately, the best mix of Foolin' Around from The Freddie Mercury Album is still not available. I'm still waiting/hoping for Everything to be released. Including some surprises. |
| Star* 17.12.2019 14:43 |
@ITSM We are all like wilder beast on the planes waiting for the rains except in our case waiting for worthwhile Queen product and this years offerings have not been outstanding. I think it would have been a great idea for Brian & Roger to look in there own private collections and fish out something for the forgotten ardent Queen fan instead of touring the world for the 99th time with a useless karaoke tour and a plastic euro vision freak on lead vocals. Queen fans must be the worse treated of ant band for products in the world of all the super groups but the fans are so caring and loving but don't get the respect back from the band in products. Artists like The Beatles, Bowie, AC/DC, etc... are always releasing something frequently but Queen seem to have a production company that are slow and do dither. |
| brENsKi 18.12.2019 23:25 |
BQT8. wrote:We are all like wilder beast on the planes waiting for the rains...I think you'll find it's wildebeest, but regardless - why are they perched on top of jumbo jets? BQT8. wrote:I think it would have been a great idea for Brian & Roger to look in there own private collections and fish out something for the forgotten ardent Queen fan...Joking aside, I'd be surprised if anything significantly interesting/rare will be released. Why? - Because Brian's paranoid-perfection won't allow anything he perceives as sub-standard to be heard. BQT8. wrote:Artists like The Beatles, Bowie, AC/DC, etc... are always releasing something frequently but Queen seem to have a production company that are slow and do dither.Bands can't be "always releasing something frequently". It's either "always" or "frequently". Each adverb denotes differing degrees of recurrence - it's impossible for both to co-exist in reference to the same verb. |
| Star* 19.12.2019 10:47 |
Oh my god you are sounding like Carol Vorderman every day grrrrrrrr |
| brENsKi 19.12.2019 11:15 |
BQT8. wrote:Oh my god you are sounding like Carol Vorderman every day grrrrrrrrIsn't Carol a mathematician? So what is the connection to your incorrect use of your native language? That would explain your crush on me. Seriously, though - I'm flattered...but NO. |
| Star* 19.12.2019 12:31 |
@Brenski Trollop ! |