QueenZone discussion #1579051

fras444 wrote: These three songs would have to be in the top 5 of my favorite Queen songs, especially Liar and Ogre as a live pieces. . . . . Liar seemed to be a fan fav as a 8 min piece, it seemed to be a song over the years albeit in various forms that died but was revived as part of a 'one off' setlist, came back in the 'works' tour and even made it in the magic tour as a bridge where as Keep yourself alive didn't. . . .

100% wrote:Those three tracks are classic Queen and they were what Queen was really about hard rock & roll. Ogre Battle is a brilliant opener for the Album Queen2 and remains most fans favourite album by miles. Quite sad though when you think were so powerful back in 1974 and ended up in 1991 limp and out of ideas because Fred was so ill.

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100% wrote:Those three tracks are classic Queen and they were what Queen was really about hard rock & roll. Ogre Battle is a brilliant opener for the Album Queen2 and remains most fans favourite album by miles. Quite sad though when you think were so powerful back in 1974 and ended up in 1991 limp and out of ideas because Fred was so ill.

they were "out of ideas" as you call it - for most of the 80s - long before Freddie was ill. Although, it's fair to say this applied to Freddie and Brian. Roger and John were doing the "heavy lifting" - ideas wise,

100% wrote:i disagree Queen were named band of the eighties hardly a band that were out of ideas. Most of there stuff in the eighties was very popular, from "Radio Ga Ga" to "I Want It All" Queen were still flying high in the charts.

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100% wrote:Brenski You do go on as though you are "Mack" wanting to dismantle a final product which Queen the entire band were very happy with. Remember Queen would not have put any of that material out if they were not happy with it because Freddie was very meticulous and a perfectionist.

100% wrote:@Brenski You believe your own shit man that is ok. Other people on here have opinions too and you do not have the last word so do not think this is your show because it aint.

100% wrote: @Brenski You believe your own shit man that is ok. Other people on here have opinions too and you do not have the last word so do not think this is your show because it aint.

100% wrote: Brenski You do go on as though you are "Mack" wanting to dismantle a final product which Queen the entire band were very happy with. Remember Queen would not have put any of that material out if they were not happy with it because Freddie was very meticulous and a perfectionist.

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100% wrote:@Brenski It is well documented that Live Aid was Queen's greatest gig so i don't really have to argue with you over that because you will probably favour someone else who is naff like Pink Floyd or Zeppelin on that fact. Ask anyone who is the greatest Front man and i bet you a dollar they will say Freddie Mercury. Sorry if you hate the idea of that otherwise you should not be on this site if you disagree.

100% wrote:Queen have had more success than Zeppelin, you really need to come out of the stone age Mr Brenski.

100% wrote: . . . . . i am not the one who is self opinionated that is brenski. I join in the posts then brenski slags my comments off then we have yet another row. He is a bully on here. . . . . . . , , He is an ex- prison worker and has his head up his arse.

The Real Wizard wrote:

100% wrote: Brenski You do go on as though you are "Mack" wanting to dismantle a final product which Queen the entire band were very happy with. Remember Queen would not have put any of that material out if they were not happy with it because Freddie was very meticulous and a perfectionist.

Actually, all the guys in Queen weren't happy with every single Queen album. They all made massive compromises. It wasn't like The Stones where two guys called the shots - Queen was a democracy. They fought literally from day one because they all cared, not just Mercury. Three members of Queen hated Hot Space. And if we listen to interviews carefully, we know Mercury and Taylor didn't like plenty of the tunes they played on. Never mind the 80s - Taylor didn't even like You're My Best Friend at first. Your fixation on Mercury as the most dominant force in Queen once again illustrates how little you know about your favourite band. Mercury may have been a perfectionist in the 70s, but not by the 80s. At one point he wasn't even showing up to mixing sessions for his own songs, never mind the others' songs. His mind was elsewhere. Do you even know what a mixing session is? You are so unbelievably small-minded if you want to shut down discussion about Queen's albums on the assumption that the artists involved are completely happy with everything they ever released. This just illustrates, yet again, how little you understand about Queen, music, creativity, business, and interpersonal relationships.

100% wrote:@Vocal Harmony : i am not getting into more shit with yous lot on here so stop trolling and analysing my opinions, move on. Chill out because you all think you are in court and its just a web site on a rock band. You are the narrow minded lot on here thinking there is more to a post than what the question is asking. We will never agree on anything so do not bother replying because i am not bothered about your shit opinions.

100% wrote:@ Brenski You are a fucking disgrace discriminating people with mental health issues. That is the card you keep on playing time and time again the mental health issues. If you were still employed and you tried this stunt then you would inevitabely be sacked on the spot. Just do yourself a favour and pick on some one else because i don't deal with trash like you pal.

100% wrote: @brenski : You need to go back on page one of this thread and see YOU were the first to insult me, and i quote your words "People are allowed to be critical of Queen songs you know, we're not all stepfords like you Gerry".

100% wrote:i never get offensive unless someone has a pop at me and you are always been nasty to me on here.

100% wrote: If you do not like me then fine do not reply to my post's, in fact anyone sane would do that but between "Real Wizard, Vocal Harmony and you (Brenski) you attack me on purpose.Three cowards to come to mind.

100% wrote:@Brenski See what i mean you are a piece of nasty shit that is stuck to the bottom of the toilet. I wish you were fucking dead you raby infected cunt that you are. Still want to attack me then, go ahead but you'l loose. I don't give a fuck were you worked or who you are but if i ever met you, you would piss yourself of fright mate. You maybe all talk behind your screen there but i could very easily wipe that smile of your fucking smug face. You are a just a coward putting a show on for your twisted mates on here, well the only dick head on here is you. You have been a head case on here for the past 7 years and yes you have been in row after row with other men on here because your are unbalanced and evil. i pity your wife having such a narrow minded twat for a husband. Why don't you do us all a favour and fuck off you piece of shit.

100% wrote:I don't want to speak to you on here again so fuck off you wanker. You are a disgusting excuse for a man. Go and walk under a fucking bus, and do us all a favour on here.. Get the message get lost.

100% wrote: @Stick Yet another fucking coward hiding behind mummies computer screen, if you have something to say cunt face lets settle it outside and meet up yeah?

100% wrote:Actually i have lots of friends i am very well respected in my community!

Stick wrote: You're an incoherent mouth-breathing, pants-shitting, waste of oxygen and carbon-based life. The Romans invented plumbing just for pieces of shit like you. No-one wants to sit in the stench you naturally exude so just float away like history has always tried to do with the likes of you.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Stick wrote: You're an incoherent mouth-breathing, pants-shitting, waste of oxygen and carbon-based life. The Romans invented plumbing just for pieces of shit like you. No-one wants to sit in the stench you naturally exude so just float away like history has always tried to do with the likes of you.

Bravo. This was a work of art.

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100% wrote:Typical bullies trolling again ! Well you cannot accuse me of trolling now because you lot have just surpassed me on here by miles. Twat's defending twats, classic.

100% wrote:@brENski I guess i am out of my depth with so many idiots on here like you and shit "stick" your buddy. I honestly do not understand why you stalk me on here for but it must be because you really like me and get a kick out of been a nasty evil twat. Ex - screw plays diva on Queenzone eh !

Stick wrote:It's not the amount of people against you that makes you out of your depth. It's the amount of intelligence combined with the self awareness that flows out of it that you lack compared to every individual that is against you. As you yourself so often admitted, you don't understand it. It's like when tribes in the jungle are shown a calculator, it's like magic to them cause they can't fathom how it works. Likewise you can't fathom how people who are much smarter and more developed than you can look at you like they do. And of course laugh out loud while interacting with you. Ever see that look on a dogs face when you fake throw a ball? That's you.

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Stick wrote:Gerry your last response feels uninspired and kinda weak. Even the "insults" don't really seem to have your heart behind it.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Out of all those, Liar is my favorite out of them, in fact I think it's underrated.

brENsKi wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:Out of all those, Liar is my favorite out of them, in fact I think it's underrated.

agreed. As I said before, Liar was the megalith of early queen. how about taking the best Freddie compositions from those first three albums? you'd have the greatest album queen never made: SIDE BLACK Seven Seas of Rhye (instrumental) Liar Fairy Feller's Masterstroke Nevermore March of the Black Queen Funny How Love Is Seven Seas of Rhye SIDE BLACKER In The Lap of the Gods Great King Rat Killer Queen Flick of the Wrist Lily of the Valley My Fairy King In The Lap of the Gods...revisited That album would be 48 minutes long - and all killer, no filler.

SW10 wrote:Yet again Brenski talks utter crap for attention !

SW10 wrote:Brenski Keeping taking the Seroxat tablets and go and visit your local "Mind" organisation.

SW10 wrote:I did think there was something wrong with you when your said Zeppelin were better than Queen ha ha ha ha

ROSE. wrote:Tut Tut you do clog up these threads with your trash comments. In fact since you have been on here in three weeks you have trolled more than anybody else on here. Seems like retirement has left you bored and silly.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Take my money...no kidding, I like what you did here. That would be a heck of a great album.

BQT8. wrote:Freddie was the one in the band to get them into the limelight with his songwriting in the 70s which was head and shoulders above other band members.

BQT8. wrote: Mercury's songwriting was nothing like Genesis or Yes far from it. His songwriting was sophisticated and over the top with some of the gems he wrote and no one ever wrote a song like "Bohemian Rhapsody" add to that brilliant ditties like "Killer Queen" "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" "Seven Seas of Rhye" and "Bicycle Race" Freddie was the greatest songwriter in the band easily. As the eighties began Fred was comfortable enough to let the other band members have a go and he took a back seat.

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AlbaNo1 wrote:Freddie contributed nearly 30 songs to the first five albums. While he obviously wrote the biggest hits in that period it’s a little spurious to suggest he wasn’t the main overall contributor to the early albums or kind of imply that hits are simple and album tracks are mature.

AlbaNo1 wrote: That just highlights how much Freddie exploded out of seemingly nowhere. But must have been carrying a lot inside.Of those Brian song examples that’s one great, one good, and two average at best. So if he did have more writing experience ,Brian took longer to produce less. Queen II could have a Brian full side one if he had the tunes, but he faded out with Some Day, One Day. That sounds like it’s Smile esque. Procession through to White Queen sounds like Queen.

BQT8. wrote:Really Brenski you do have too much time on your hands tut tut

BQT8. wrote:Well if that tosses your salad then fine !

BQT8. wrote:Well if that tosses your salad then fine !

BQT8. wrote: @Brenski I honestly do not know what you are going about but i think your just on here to cause even more trouble. You have been going on and on and not chatting about what this thread is actually about. Troll troll troll troll troll troll ....................................................