dudley-fufkin 7834 12.11.2019 18:41 |
Does a freddie version of this song exist? If so, why hasnt it been released? Surely now is the time to release it? |
princetom 12.11.2019 19:44 |
never even heard of the rumour that this (whatever xmas-song) shall exist. sources ? |
princetom 12.11.2019 19:46 |
unless you mean THIS: link |
Stick 12.11.2019 20:28 |
Nah, if it exists please keep it in the archive. 1 christmas song is enough and even with Freddie on vocals, I dream of christmas wouldn't be that good of a song. |
pittrek 12.11.2019 21:33 |
I always thought that Anita was trying to sing like Freddie, which would suggest she sang it based on a Queen demo |
pittrek 12.11.2019 21:33 |
Check rhyeking's response from 9 years ago : link EDIT - link made clickable for mooghead |
Mr. Bulsara 12.11.2019 21:40 |
It says on the Works deluxe edition book that Queen recorded 2 christmas songs. "Thank god it's christmas" an "I dream of Christmas" so is true. Not a rumour |
MisterCosmicc 13.11.2019 00:23 |
'I Dream Of Christmas' is a beautiful track. I hope to hear a Freddie version of it someday. |
miraclesteinway 13.11.2019 02:38 |
My guess is a Freddie version doesn't exist, but a Brian demo exists. I don't know why, it's just a hunch. |
Nathan H 13.11.2019 08:21 |
There could be a demo at least but whether Freddie's vocals are savagable if Queen were to record/re-record the backing track seems unlikely. It was with Let Me In Your Heart Again but for this song there was a different purpose with it; to be a Christmas single rather than a track on the album. This means that Queen will have probably spent more time doing LMIYHA rather IDOC as that was the more likely song that would end up being released. IDOC could well be just a demo recording on a cassette which could mean the quality is really bad due to tape hiss. And, there's even a chance that Freddie may have not even sung at all on this track because I believe that Brian and Roger worked on the songs in London and when they decided to do Thank God It's Christmas they recorded the backing track and then sent it over to Munich where Freddie was working on his solo album. Brian and Roger may have dropped this song before Freddie even knew that the track even existed. |
cmsdrums 13.11.2019 13:16 |
Brian's previous comments on it: Brian May: "I always liked the record (TGIC)... it's something Roger and I did a rare early collaboration on. The original idea came from Roger, who had written that very shivery verse pattern. I had another idea too at the time .... it became Anita's Christmas single ... "I Dream of Christmas". But we judged the embryonic TGIC to be most suitable for a Queen track, and worked on it together - I added some tinsel, and the chorus idea, introduced by a modulating cascade of icicles, and it was completed pretty quickly. Nice and simple, and Freddie made a lovely job of singing it. I promise we will make a video for it one day ... the fact that there is no video for TGIC has of course always limited its exposure in these days of Video Supremacy ... We have actually been speaking about it ... but got too busy to manage it for THIS Christmas. So this is really good news ... it makes us happy that you have given the track new life." "This is years ago, of course. Roger and I agreed we would both submit ideas, and work together on working up the idea we chose. Roger wrote the beginnings of "Thank God It's Christmas", and I wrote the beginnings of "I Dream of Christmas". We met down at Roger's place and demo'd both tracks together, as I remember. How the choice between the two tracks was made I don't clearly remember, but I think it was a whole group thing. We decided to finish TGIC for the Queen Christmas single, and "IDOC" was put to one side, and I immediately worked it into the version which we released as my Lady Anita's Christmas record. This record charted briefly but is now a rarity (it features Anita singing, along with a school choir of young kids, and quite a lot of Guitar soloing by me!) For the eventual Queen song, Roger had the verse form already: "Oh - my love - we live in troubled days ....". I contributed the chorus, with a key-change leading into it, using a lyric line which occurred casually in the verse, so this now became the title, "Thank God It's Christmas". Of course when Freddie took up the singing it jumped into another gear ... his lovely high register soaring above the background in these choruses, then returning to a very gentle breathy texture for the verses. The background was based on a synth pad which Roger had found (he would have to tell you what it was made with), to which I added a guitar texture very un-typical of me ... very clean and bright ... the amp turned way down and the strings hit hard like bells. This makes that Bright Frosty sound which I actually like a lot, contrasting with the warm and dark synth chords. Of course as usual John's subtle firm bass lines are a big part of the style of the eventual outcome. The drums are programmed, the way Roger originally demo'd them, an unusual choice for a Queen track but it works in this case. My favourite part is the end, where there's a small building (subdominant) link into the playout. Freddie is improvising, and it all becomes totally joyful ... trekking off into the distance across the snowy fields..... noses red, scarves wrapped around chins, snowballs being thrown .... Christmas packages of good food being delivered to hungry villagers' doors ... mulled wine being swigged to keep the blood flowing to those cold extremities.... " |
Star* 13.11.2019 14:06 |
Brian does have a habit of promising things that will never happen. well certainly not now as i think he has walked away from been productive with Queen now. He tours and that is it folks. Brian's time now is Queen + Nellie Lambert then badgers then more Queen + Nellie Lambert and errrrr Badgers, sad eh ! |
Stick 13.11.2019 14:24 |
Also Kerry Ellis stuff and stereoscopic photography. So what? I'm glad he does what he loves. He doesn't owe us anything. We already have the Queen back catalogue and his solo stuff. Be thankful for that instead of moaning about what he does these days. |
Makka 14.11.2019 02:28 |
Jazz+ wrote: Brian does have a habit of promising things that will never happen. well certainly not now as i think he has walked away from been productive with Queen now. He tours and that is it folks. Brian's time now is Queen + Nellie Lambert then badgers then more Queen + Nellie Lambert and errrrr Badgers, sad eh !So do you do the things you like doing? Why can't he do what makes him happy in his later years? He's not in his 30's anymore and he still seems very busy with his various projects so good on him. Queen is just a touring show now. I hope they don't record anything with Adam and after all this time you'd think it's not going to happen. So yes, a non-productive Queen is where it's at. I'm not sure when that article was from but I'm sure life took over and they never got the chance to do the video. |
Star* 17.11.2019 17:43 |
@Makka It is very embarrassing the route Brian has gone down and dragging Roger with him silly man. Those two could have toured together or made albums together or even get involved with other artists because Queen is over it is going nowhere with Lambert except down the pan. Sure they have all made a lot of money out of playing the karaoke kings but the fans are truly pissed off with the same round the globe tours with the same songs and Lambert decked out like a camp xmas tree with his ridiculous stage antics. Things could have been so different like Brian & Roger could have saved there dignity and cherish the Queen they had with Freddie and John but no they had to trash the band with a plastic cheesy freak. |
runner_70 17.11.2019 21:03 |
Jazz+ wrote: Brian does have a habit of promising things that will never happen. well certainly not now as i think he has walked away from been productive with Queen now. He tours and that is it folks. Brian's time now is Queen + Nellie Lambert then badgers then more Queen + Nellie Lambert and errrrr Badgers, sad eh !More than sad! He lost it all |
runner_70 17.11.2019 21:05 |
Jazz+ wrote: @Makka It is very embarrassing the route Brian has gone down and dragging Roger with him silly man. Those two could have toured together or made albums together or even get involved with other artists because Queen is over it is going nowhere with Lambert except down the pan. Sure they have all made a lot of money out of playing the karaoke kings but the fans are truly pissed off with the same round the globe tours with the same songs and Lambert decked out like a camp xmas tree with his ridiculous stage antics. Things could have been so different like Brian & Roger could have saved there dignity and cherish the Queen they had with Freddie and John but no they had to trash the band with a plastic cheesy freak.Just think of a tour with Deep cuts or solo tours and moire solo albums. Those years after QPR were completely wasted |
Star* 18.11.2019 10:13 |
@Runner_70 i agree Brian & Roger have wasted there lives on a very unproductive Queen these last 10 years. No point in what they are doing because the band is not complete or even real now. |
Riku M 18.11.2019 18:43 |
I know of two people who have been even more unproductive and wasted their lives even more..... |
Holly2003 18.11.2019 19:35 |
Riku M wrote: I know of two people who have been even more unproductive and wasted their lives even more.....Ha! Brilliant :) |
SweetCaroline 18.11.2019 23:35 |
Over 200 shows in sold out 20,000 seat venues worldwide is hardly unproductive! |
SweetCaroline 18.11.2019 23:50 |
Bohemian Rhapsody movie making over $900 million worldwide and winning multiple awards was also quite unproductive! |
MisterCosmicc 19.11.2019 02:51 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Over 200 shows in sold out 20,000 seat venues worldwide is hardly unproductive!What do you think of 'I Dream Of Christmas'? Do you wish you heard a Freddie version of it? |
Saint Jiub 19.11.2019 03:51 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Over 200 shows in sold out 20,000 seat venues worldwide is hardly unproductive!QAL is like the tobacco industry ... profitable but not productive. |
Star* 20.11.2019 14:18 |
SweetCaroline 20.000 seats is nothing, because Freddie played to 250.000 fans in Brazil in 1981 on one night! |
SweetCaroline 20.11.2019 17:38 |
Jazz, so did Queen + Adam when they performed before thousands at Rock In Rio in Brazil in 2015. Also, the very first time Adam performed a whole show with Brian and Roger in 2012, it was in the Kiev Square before 250,000 people if not more. Spike and Roger thought it was more. There have been many other shows with more than 20,000 in attendance such as The Isle Of Wight, Hollywood Bowl, etc. I just used that as a generic number. |
MisterCosmicc 20.11.2019 17:58 |
SweetCaroline, what do you think of ‘I Dream Of Christmas’? |
MisterCosmicc 20.11.2019 18:01 |
BTW, SweetCaroline, you keep mentioning concerts with huge attendance records, but at those concerts, it was not only Queen performing, but others as well. |
Star* 21.11.2019 17:02 |
SweetCaroline When Adam gets 250.000 people into a stadium all by himself then i will consider if he is worthy but at the moment those large attendance figures involved QUEEN who had 100% to do with the massive popularity of the gigs not Adam. |
MisterCosmicc 21.11.2019 19:13 |
Jazz+ wrote: SweetCaroline When Adam gets 250.000 people into a stadium all by himself then i will consider if he is worthy but at the moment those large attendance figures involved QUEEN who had 100% to do with the massive popularity of the gigs not Adam.Good point. If it was Adam solo, he'd never get a huge attendance. Adam Worshippers forgets that most people who attend a Queen concert, wouldn't bother attending an Adam solo concert because Brian and Roger wouldn't be there. |
Riku M 21.11.2019 19:16 |
When did Freddie ever get 250.000 people into a stadium all by himself? |
Star* 21.11.2019 19:35 |
Riku M Come on dud do get to be the smart arse on here. You know Queen the complete group got 250.000 fans in Brazil. Adam could never achieve that. |
Star* 21.11.2019 19:45 |
MisterCosmicc Yeah it is Brian & Roger that make people want to attend the shows and some attend because they fancy Adam which does not make him a rock n roll god. Queen are legends and Lambert knows he will get more attention staying with them rather than get his own band and struggling to make it big. Cheapskate. |
SweetCaroline 22.11.2019 13:40 |
I’m not too crazy over “Thank God It’s Christmas!” link |
SweetCaroline 22.11.2019 13:48 |
I like “I Dream Of Christmas” more: link |
Iron Butterfly 22.11.2019 15:03 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not too crazy over “Thank God It’s Christmas!” link--------- Of course you aren't too crazy about it. AL isn't singing it is he? |
Iron Butterfly 22.11.2019 15:18 |
To have Freddie sing IDOC, is one of my hopes for as a Queen and Freddie fan. |
SweetCaroline 22.11.2019 15:20 |
Stop stalking me, icy, and try to post something that is not in response to me! I bet you can’t because you don’t have any original thoughts! |
Iron Butterfly 22.11.2019 15:33 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Stop stalking me, icy, and try to post something that is not in response to me! I bet you can’t because you don’t have any original thoughts!I'm not stalking you. And I do post things that are not in response to you. Look at you bigging things up in this thread, you just can't help yourself can you. You have no thought about what Mistercosmic asked you as well. I do have original thought. You not so much, you'd rather say I'm stalking you and telling me to f*ck off like you did earlier. |
Iron Butterfly 22.11.2019 16:18 |
cmsdrums wrote: Brian's previous comments on it: Brian May: "I always liked the record (TGIC)... it's something Roger and I did a rare early collaboration on. The original idea came from Roger, who had written that very shivery verse pattern. I had another idea too at the time .... it became Anita's Christmas single ... "I Dream of Christmas". But we judged the embryonic TGIC to be most suitable for a Queen track, and worked on it together - I added some tinsel, and the chorus idea, introduced by a modulating cascade of icicles, and it was completed pretty quickly. Nice and simple, and Freddie made a lovely job of singing it. I promise we will make a video for it one day ... the fact that there is no video for TGIC has of course always limited its exposure in these days of Video Supremacy ... We have actually been speaking about it ... but got too busy to manage it for THIS Christmas. So this is really good news ... it makes us happy that you have given the track new life." "This is years ago, of course. Roger and I agreed we would both submit ideas, and work together on working up the idea we chose. Roger wrote the beginnings of "Thank God It's Christmas", and I wrote the beginnings of "I Dream of Christmas". We met down at Roger's place and demo'd both tracks together, as I remember. How the choice between the two tracks was made I don't clearly remember, but I think it was a whole group thing. We decided to finish TGIC for the Queen Christmas single, and "IDOC" was put to one side, and I immediately worked it into the version which we released as my Lady Anita's Christmas record. This record charted briefly but is now a rarity (it features Anita singing, along with a school choir of young kids, and quite a lot of Guitar soloing by me!) For the eventual Queen song, Roger had the verse form already: "Oh - my love - we live in troubled days ....". I contributed the chorus, with a key-change leading into it, using a lyric line which occurred casually in the verse, so this now became the title, "Thank God It's Christmas". Of course when Freddie took up the singing it jumped into another gear ... his lovely high register soaring above the background in these choruses, then returning to a very gentle breathy texture for the verses. The background was based on a synth pad which Roger had found (he would have to tell you what it was made with), to which I added a guitar texture very un-typical of me ... very clean and bright ... the amp turned way down and the strings hit hard like bells. This makes that Bright Frosty sound which I actually like a lot, contrasting with the warm and dark synth chords. Of course as usual John's subtle firm bass lines are a big part of the style of the eventual outcome. The drums are programmed, the way Roger originally demo'd them, an unusual choice for a Queen track but it works in this case. My favourite part is the end, where there's a small building (subdominant) link into the playout. Freddie is improvising, and it all becomes totally joyful ... trekking off into the distance across the snowy fields..... noses red, scarves wrapped around chins, snowballs being thrown .... Christmas packages of good food being delivered to hungry villagers' doors ... mulled wine being swigged to keep the blood flowing to those cold extremities.... "Just wondering if you know the year Brian said that? |
Riku M 22.11.2019 19:58 |
Jazz+ wrote: Riku M Come on dud do get to be the smart arse on here. You know Queen the complete group got 250.000 fans in Brazil. Adam could never achieve that.Of course I know that but that was Queen, not Freddie all by himself. Queen plus Paul Rogers played for 350.000 in Kharkov. Does that make Paul a better front man than Freddie? |
MisterCosmicc 23.11.2019 04:34 |
Riku M wrote:Unfair question to him, since you know well that Freddie wasn't into solo concerts.Jazz+ wrote: Riku M Come on dud do get to be the smart arse on here. You know Queen the complete group got 250.000 fans in Brazil. Adam could never achieve that.Of course I know that but that was Queen, not Freddie all by himself. Queen plus Paul Rogers played for 350.000 in Kharkov. Does that make Paul a better front man than Freddie? |