QueenZone discussion #1572727

LTLSihls wrote: "Best live singer on the planet". Really?? If you are not afraid to change genre's to southern gospel, you would actually hear, one of, if not the best, live singer on the planet, Mr. David Phelps. Mr. Lamebird could only *aspire* to be as phenomenal as David. Perhaps you should reword your statement to read "the best above average singer on the planet".

Saint Jiub wrote: link "Come on Glamberts! Adam Lambert has so much talent and does such incredible shows!" Even begging for ballot box stuffing by Glamberts can only get AL to #11 ... "So overrated"

Saint Jiub wrote: Adam is nowhere to be found in Billboard's top "25 bandleaders who’ve driven crowds the craziest." The 25 Best Rock Frontmen (and Women) of All Time: link

LTLSihls wrote: Rockchic 65 wrote: "To be fair David Phelps isn't the best singer either, his technique is not great and as far as I know he doesn't sing various genre's?" You are correct. David is strictly a gospel singer whose technique has been touted by numerous well respected voice coaches (can you say Ken Tamplin?) as being exceptional. Please enlighten me of the other genre's Mr. Lameturd has performed.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Play The Game link

K770i wrote: @Thomasquinn: i have no issues with anger but i do have issues with talentless twats like Adam Lambert lol He would do better as drag queen like Ru Paul.

K770i wrote: Lambert on Strictly last night was a complete joke, the song was shite as well. No wonder this tools last six singles have failed to chart in the UK if that is the shit he/she is releasing. He should get back to the states and stay there.

SweetCaroline wrote: Nessun Dorma link

Holly2003 wrote: Myles Kennedy (& Mark Tremonti) performing Ghosts of Days Gone By for Planet Rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJUIa31QS0

MisterCosmicc wrote: Yes, about four people. Sounds like worship.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Myles Kennedy (& Mark Tremonti) performing Ghosts of Days Gone By for Planet Rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJUIa31QS0

Pretty cool.

*goodco* wrote:

K770i wrote: Lambert on Strictly last night was a complete joke, the song was shite as well. No wonder this tools last six singles have failed to chart in the UK if that is the shit he/she is releasing. He should get back to the states and stay there.

You are an individual who cannot stand the man, and yet, are obsessed with following his every move, including appearances on something I don't follow, don't care to follow, and really don't care to follow. And you call yourself a Queen fan! pshaw

SweetCaroline wrote: Nessun Dorma link

Holly2003 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Play The Game link

Good call. Here's my nomination. Words Darker Than Their Wings (live at the Royal Albert Hall) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTvJ1TYORJg

Coco+ wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon : You are the biggest clown on here hiding behind your shield as usual.

The Circle of Eidolon wrote: Yet again you seem to be presenting something that you have no proof of as being more than just your narrow limited thoughts. We, The Circle of Eidolon have yet again read what you have to say and found nothing of importance in the words you present. We have however noticed that there is one thing that we think is fitting beyond anything you may even be aware of. You have taken the predictable step of changing your name, yet again. Coco is a fine and fitting name, especially to anyone who remembers Coco The Clown. You have chosen wisely, it's a shame your posts don't reflect such wisdom. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken. Coco is your choice, there can be no argument. You indeed are this forums clown.

Coco+ wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon : You are the biggest clown on here hiding behind your shield as usual. To be honest i could'nt give a fuck what you think of me on here. You obviously have no life so you come on here judging people with your pathetic comments and user names. Well guess what i can say whatever i want on here and you and nobody else can change that. So if you do not like peoples opinions on here apart from your own then fuck off prick. Oh and by the way i will change my user name as many fucking times as i want - get it ?

MisterCosmicc wrote: Not at all, dear boy!

MisterCosmicc wrote: The Circle of Eidolon = Adam Worshippers

MisterCosmicc wrote: I got something in common with Runner... we both find Day dop’s spamming annoying.

runner_70 wrote:. And to get the record straight: The guy NEVER EVER posted in the QAL section. Not a single time.

runner_70 wrote:. He did not post in the normal forums as well for quite a while.

runner_70 wrote: The first time he saw me on here was when I said I did not like the MBG remix.

runner_70 wrote:. He overreacted there as well and got obsessed by his "elite" opinion and namecalled me and others who did not share his view.

runner_70 wrote:. He singled me out and saw himself as some kind of "spokesperson" for the Glamberts, about who he did not care for at all until now. SO it was just an excuse for having a go at me. He did not even see me before posting on here.

runner_70 wrote:. He surely has a mental illness and I almost pity the guy. He was screaming for attention and was desperate if I did not answer him. See how he namecalled those who did not share his views on here as well.

runner_70 wrote:. I hope they found an IP ban so far. He is reading this now and tomorrow it will be Groundhog day again - I hope not.

Jazz+ wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon Instead of preaching on here go and buy an Adam Lambert record and sicken yourself even more, You are a very arrogant person and have a bad attitude especially when you say "We The Circle of Eidolon" so does that mean there is more than one of you head cases on here then? You really sound demented and in need of psychiatric support or you could be schizophrenic especially when you say "we" The Circle of Eidolon, You and an imaginary voice in your head? either way we know you cannot help it and pity you. It is Mental health month here in the Uk so go find some.

Jazz+ wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon : I do not know what you are trying to prove on here but you have no right judging me on here. I find your post patronising and unacceptable . You fetch nothing to the table apart from sarcasm and arrogance. You are a deluded Adam Lambert fan we all know that, and you hate the passionate Queen fan for defending the band over the sissy boy Lambert. As i said earlier (if you can read), i do not care what your comments are on here because you are a sad individual behind your screen wishing you were someone so you put the act on that you are "the big i am". sad cunt.

Jazz+ wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon : I do not know what you are trying to prove on here but you have no right judging me on here. I find your post patronising and unacceptable . You fetch nothing to the table apart from sarcasm and arrogance. You are a deluded Adam Lambert fan we all know that, and you hate the passionate Queen fan for defending the band over the sissy boy Lambert. As i said earlier (if you can read), i do not care what your comments are on here because you are a sad individual behind your screen wishing you were someone so you put the act on that you are "the big i am". sad cunt.

SweetCaroline wrote: “KBPSmag Track of the day (October 28th 2019) @adamlambert - Superpower With a throbbing funky beat this retro-sounding crisply-produced pop song is a corker. #KBPSReview”

Holly2003 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Play The Game link

Good call. Here's my nomination. Words Darker Than Their Wings (live at the Royal Albert Hall) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTvJ1TYORJg

Holly2003 wrote: Myles Kennedy (& Mark Tremonti) performing Ghosts of Days Gone By for Planet Rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJUIa31QS0

AngelR wrote: Adam was mismanaged as a gay singer from the very beginning of his career instead of an outstanding vocalist. Maybe it's what he wanted himself though....Dance music is fun!

Brancelli wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Myles Kennedy (& Mark Tremonti) performing Ghosts of Days Gone By for Planet Rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJUIa31QS0

This is truly great. Is it true he's almost 50? Great singer. He looks and sounds fantastic. I will say though, on a skill level, Lambert is still better to me. But I enjoy Myles voice and songs more, if that makes sense. Of course I have many more songs left to listen to change my mind. Again, thanks for sharing. Looking for more.

SweetCaroline wrote: Alter Bridge music is kind of morbid and depressing, even satanic. So they are from Orlando!

SweetCaroline wrote: Have I been banned again or is the whole QOL website down for some reason? I get an error message when clicking on it.

MisterCosmicc wrote: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Your Freddie link doesn’t work! You must be over 90! LOL Adam is a natural live entertainer! Superpower: link

SweetCaroline wrote: I am not able to bring up that link to Freddie. Maybe if I knew what it is I could look for it myself. I don’t have to comment on Freddie’s showmanship, etc. because that is a well-known given.

SweetCaroline wrote: I am not able to bring up that link to Freddie. Maybe if I knew what it is I could look for it myself. I don’t have to comment on Freddie’s showmanship, etc. because that is a well-known given.

SweetCaroline wrote: If you would attend a spectacular QAL concert you would know that Adam loves Freddie and gives him a beautiful tribute! Also, I believe Freddie would love Adam and appreciate him keeping his legacy alive and exciting, not boring!

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I am not able to bring up that link to Freddie. Maybe if I knew what it is I could look for it myself. I don’t have to comment on Freddie’s showmanship, etc. because that is a well-known given.

Since your mind is too addled to figure out how copy the link into your browser, I made the link clickable for you. link

SweetCaroline wrote: Again, that Freddie link doesn’t work. Message says it is a 404 error.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I Was Born To Love You wasn’t made to be sung like Adam sung it. It was a dance ballad. A top 40 dance hit in the USA, by the way. Adam is the same age now as Freddie was then, but not even Adam’s Queen connections can get him on the charts... which is extremely sad. Adam isn’t keeping Freddie’s legacy alive... Freddie’s legacy was firmly in place before he died. Freddie’s death, Wayne’s World, Live Aid, Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are The Champions, many other Queen songs, and the film ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ all play a much bigger role than Adam Lambert in terms of Freddie’s legacy. In a thousand years, no one will talk about how Adam sang for Queen. It won’t be in music history. Adam’s songs won’t be in music history. The day the world ends, maybe soon, maybe in a thousand years, there will be Queen songs being played on the radio. People will be playing Freddie’s music, either in peace or fear. People will be listening to Freddie the very second the world ends. That’s forever. Adam will never accomplish that.

SweetCaroline wrote: My comment about attending a QAL concert was in response to Mr Cosmic’s comment that Adam should take note of Freddie’s greatness. Not everything is about you, icy! Try to follow the messages. Are you over 90, too?

Holly2003 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Again, that Freddie link doesn’t work. Message says it is a 404 error.

It's Satan's work once again.

SweetCaroline wrote: I said Adam keeps Freddie’s legacy alive and exciting, not in movies or videos but in LIVE stage performances! Too bad his so-called diehard fans don’t appreciate it but instead resent it!

SweetCaroline wrote: I said Adam keeps Freddie’s legacy alive and exciting, not in movies or videos but in LIVE stage performances! Too bad his so-called diehard fans don’t appreciate it but instead resent it!

SweetCaroline wrote: If you would attend a spectacular QAL concert you would know that Adam loves Freddie and gives him a beautiful tribute! Also, I believe Freddie would love Adam and appreciate him keeping his legacy alive and exciting, not boring!

SweetCaroline wrote: keeping his legacy alive and exciting, not boring!

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie said he didn’t care what you do about him after he is gone only don’t make him boring! Brian, Roger and Spike got excited over Adam because they knew he would never make Freddie’s music boring!

MisterCosmicc wrote: That’s because Freddie’s songs aren’t possible to be boring. Thank-God for Freddie, I’m sure Adam is grateful everyday that Freddie played a big role in helping fund his solo album.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: That’s because Freddie’s songs aren’t possible to be boring. Thank-God for Freddie, I’m sure Adam is grateful everyday that Freddie played a big role in helping fund his solo album.

AL should be grateful for Freddie's and Queen's legacy, it's filled his pockets more than his own career.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie said he didn’t care what you do about him after he is gone only don’t make him boring! Brian, Roger and Spike got excited over Adam because they knew he would never make Freddie’s music boring!

Huh? Did Brian, Roger and Spike ever say that, I don't think they did. It's you just bigging him up as your usual. You'd say anything to promote AL, even using Freddie's own words and what you think he'd like to suit your needs and wants for AL.

Brancelli wrote: Sad but true. I did have high hopes for Lambert, had a lot of potential. EDM and that awards show killed any momentum for a solo career after idol.

MisterCosmicc wrote: How can you say he’s doing fine as an indie artist? He spent way more on promotion for his EP than what he made from selling it. He could do loads better, and he knows that for sure. Adam’s a popular man, but people aren’t buying his music. Just because you’re indie, doesn’t mean you can’t create a hit. He has many followers on all his social media pages. Where were they after Adam released his EP and singles?

21st Century Music Fan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Freddie said he didn’t care what you do about him after he is gone only don’t make him boring! Brian, Roger and Spike got excited over Adam because they knew he would never make Freddie’s music boring!

Huh? Did Brian, Roger and Spike ever say that, I don't think they did. It's you just bigging him up as your usual. You'd say anything to promote AL, even using Freddie's own words and what you think he'd like to suit your needs and wants for AL.

Which is why you've never seen the recent documentary they've made. It's rather good and believe me it's not all about Adam Lambert, they cover the whole 90s including John in the band. You need to watch it so you get your facts right.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: That’s because Freddie’s songs aren’t possible to be boring. Thank-God for Freddie, I’m sure Adam is grateful everyday that Freddie played a big role in helping fund his solo album.

AL should be grateful for Freddie's and Queen's legacy, it's filled his pockets more than his own career.

Sad but true. I did have high hopes for Lambert, had a lot of potential. EDM and that awards show killed any momentum for a solo career after idol.

Holly2003 wrote: Even Ozzie's latest dirge is better than Lambert's latest elevator muzak.

SweetCaroline wrote: Wow, Mr. Cosmic really has a crush on Adam!

Saint Jiub wrote: I think SweetDelusional really thinks she has a shot to evangelically convert Cosmic into a Glambert. Unbelievable ...

Saint Jiub wrote: I think SweetDelusional really thinks she has a shot to evangelically convert Cosmic into a Glambert. Unbelievable ...

SweetCaroline wrote: Another original, very original, Adam performance: link Adam’s career will NOT end after QAL.

SweetCaroline wrote: Covers is ALL Michael Buble sings and he is a crooner so even the covers are sung like other singers, Sinatra, etc. Adam is original. No one is able to sing like he sings!

SweetCaroline wrote: My point about Buble is that he mostly sings covers and puts out whole albums of covers, Christmas, etc. Adam rejected putting out an album of rock covers. He probably would have had amazing sales for that. So when certain people (you know who you are) are constsntl bitching about Adam singing covers, you are wrong. On Idol he proved he could do that in an outstanding way but that is not what he wants to do.

rockchic65 wrote: If Adam were anywhere near as lame as you lot make out you'd ignore SC's posts and laugh but you know he isn't and that's what get's your backs up, psycholgists would have a field day with you lot - fkn hilarious.

SweetCaroline wrote: And, no, I am not bigging him up! He doesn’t need that from me or anyone else!

SweetCaroline wrote: If you don’t like “Superpower” or anything else he puts out, fine! There are people who do!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, rockchic65, it IS pathetic that the loonies think Adam is a failure even when he appears on national TV shows like The Talk (November 12) and James Corden (November 19)! LOL Some people equate touring with Queen as singing cover songs which is truly pathetic! That is a cherished gig and an honor that most “successful” artists are not anywhere qualified or capable of doing. And, yes, that recent documentary was trying to get that point across — that a “lowly” contestant from American Idol is the guy who made the cut — not Michael Buble or Adam Levine or Bono or any other male singer with an established band and huge recording sales and multiple Grammys. Stop the Adam bashing and start recognizing him for the many amazing accomplishments he has indeed achieved. And, no, I am not bigging him up! He doesn’t need that from me or anyone else! If you don’t like “Superpower” or anything else he puts out, fine! There are people who do!

Holly2003 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And, no, I am not bigging him up! He doesn’t need that from me or anyone else!

Everything you do, every post, every reply is an attempt to promote Lambert and convince everyone that he's great. You have nothing original or interesting to say. You started a thread about the best singer in the world and won't even consider anyone else except Lambert. No discussion, no reasoning, just stick your fingers in your ears and post more Lambert spam. You are completely vacuous and the very definition of a troll.

SweetCaroline wrote: If you don’t like “Superpower” or anything else he puts out, fine! There are people who do!

But it's not "fine" -- you hate it when anyone raises even mild criticism. You won't even let any non-Lambert comment be the last one in a topic -- you have to post another irrelevant or repeated link so (in your mind) Lambert is the subject again. You are a disturbed and deluded fanatic, but your behaviour has likely turned more people against him than you've converted.

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ Yep, and less chance for the sad trolls to fuck up every thread!!!

Holly2003 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: If Adam were anywhere near as lame as you lot make out you'd ignore SC's posts and laugh but you know he isn't and that's what get's your backs up, psycholgists would have a field day with you lot - fkn hilarious.

If Lambert were anywhere near as good as Lambert fans make out you'd ignore negative posts and laugh but you know he isn't and that's what gets your back up. Psychologists would have a field day with Lambert fans - fkn hilarious.

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ Yep, and less chance for the sad trolls to fuck up every thread!!!

If only rockchic was not a hypocrite ...

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ Yep, and less chance for the sad trolls to fuck up every thread!!!

If only rockchic was not a hypocrite ...

I'm no hypocrite, I'm not the one who spends hours posting the same lame Lambert bashing/SC bashing crap over and over for years lol. Trolls abound on this forum, I learned a while ago to ignore most of it but every now and then I fancy posting what a bunch of sad t**ts they are, just like to keep my hand in so to speak!! The decent posters might make the occasional comment but they don't make it their life's work to go on and on ad nauseam about the guy, especially about his solo work which has no relevance to QAL anyway, just because they feel threatened by a few comments from one or two glamberts, what a sad life to lead. Anyway over and out, better things to be getting on with thankfully.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, rockchic65, it IS pathetic that the loonies think Adam is a failure even when he appears on national TV shows like The Talk (November 12) and James Corden (November 19)! LOL Some people equate touring with Queen as singing cover songs which is truly pathetic! That is a cherished gig and an honor that most “successful” artists are not anywhere qualified or capable of doing. And, yes, that recent documentary was trying to get that point across — that a “lowly” contestant from American Idol is the guy who made the cut — not Michael Buble or Adam Levine or Bono or any other male singer with an established band and huge recording sales and multiple Grammys. Stop the Adam bashing and start recognizing him for the many amazing accomplishments he has indeed achieved. And, no, I am not bigging him up! He doesn’t need that from me or anyone else! If you don’t like “Superpower” or anything else he puts out, fine! There are people who do!

SweetCaroline wrote: None of those three male vocalists have the range to do justice to the music Queen created. I trust Brian, Roger and Spike’s musical knowlege and expertise above that of runner whoever in the heck HE is. I love Bono and have seen U2 LIVE 5 times. They are great but Bono would not be able to sing those songs appropriately. Neither could Levine or Buble. They are locked in to a certain style and are not flexible enough like both Freddie and Adam to stretch themselves and blast out those amazing anthems! We should all be so glad that they are out there performing LIVE !!!!!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Why does she keep mentioning Spike anyways?

MisterCosmicc wrote: Hell, Adam can’t sing Queen’s hard rock songs correctly. His voice isn’t gritty enough for it. His voice is too smooth sounding for most of Queen’s songs, considering there’s more hard rockers than ballads.

Saint Jiub wrote: SC would be banned for her spamming if QZ did not have a rigid anticensorship policy. It is quite incredible that so many glamberts support SC.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam’s performance of Somebody To Love is terrible. What an insult. What’s Adam doing when he’s performing that track? Mimicking the moves he plays with young guys in the bedroom?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam’s performance of Somebody To Love is terrible. What an insult. What’s Adam doing when he’s performing that track? Mimicking the moves he plays with young guys in the bedroom?

I've never liked him singing it to be honest. It just screams as he's trying too hard. Range, maybe that is what matters for some, but he lacks emotion. He just doesn't have the realness Freddie had.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: SC would be banned for her spamming if QZ did not have a rigid anticensorship policy. It is quite incredible that so many glamberts support SC.

Support her because to many Glamberts, I'm the "bad" one. SweetCaroline is always innocent no matter what, that's been explained, rather excused by snifflese and by SweetCaroline herself.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: SC would be banned for her spamming if QZ did not have a rigid anticensorship policy. It is quite incredible that so many glamberts support SC.

Support her because to many Glamberts, I'm the "bad" one. SweetCaroline is always innocent no matter what, that's been explained, rather excused by snifflese and by SweetCaroline herself.

There are more glamberts than just sniiffy excusing SC's spamming.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam’s performance of Somebody To Love is terrible. What an insult. What’s Adam doing when he’s performing that track? Mimicking the moves he plays with young guys in the bedroom?

I've never liked him singing it to be honest. It just screams as he's trying too hard. Range, maybe that is what matters for some, but he lacks emotion. He just doesn't have the realness Freddie had.

AL exudes phoniness.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam on The Talk, November 12, 2019: link

SweetCaroline wrote: “@camilagreymusic Well that was a good time!! Thanks for having us! Your staff was the best yet!!! @TheTalkCBS @adamlambert @TheRealEve @MrsSOsbourne @sherylunderwood @carrieanninaba @marieosmond“

SweetCaroline wrote: “@camilagreymusic Well that was a good time!! Thanks for having us! Your staff was the best yet!!! @TheTalkCBS @adamlambert @TheRealEve @MrsSOsbourne @sherylunderwood @carrieanninaba @marieosmond“

Saint Jiub wrote: Spam away sour sister spam until you cannot see Maybe you'll big up Adam but never on QOL spam it the way you wanna but adam lets you down again spam away sour sister Adam can't write a song ... even I can write better lyrics than Adam

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Spam away sour sister spam until you cannot see Maybe you'll big up Adam but never on QOL spam it the way you wanna but adam lets you down again spam away sour sister Adam can't write a song ... even I can write better lyrics than Adam

Yes,you sure can. That is brilliant. Careful she doesn't call you a hateful bitch like she called me today.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Spam away sour sister spam until you cannot see Maybe you'll big up Adam but never on QOL spam it the way you wanna but adam lets you down again spam away sour sister Adam can't write a song ... even I can write better lyrics than Adam

Yes,you sure can. That is brilliant. Careful she doesn't call you a hateful bitch like she called me today.

Nah she loves me ... she likes to single you out and act like you are the only heretic.

SweetCaroline wrote: Interview on The Talk: link

Jazz+ wrote: Adam Lambert is a piece of nothing tarted up in sequins to make him appear to be somebody! Sadly Caroline is obsessed with Adam and she cannot see past his flamboyant dress sense but under all that eye liner and sequins he is just another talentless effeminate nobody who used to raid mammy's make up bag! Adam should team up with Sam Smith another freak who does not know what the hell he/she is !

Brancelli wrote: Caroline, I appreciate your enthusiasm for Lambert. However, I would suggest toning it down on this forum. I know all you want to do is convert the nonbelievers, but it’s only leading you to calling people “hateful bitch”. What good is that to anyone? I agree with the sentiment here that you are doing more harm than good for Lambert with your posts. It’s great that you like him, and I’m glad his music brings you joy. But you are ultimately turning people off to him.

Jazz+ wrote: @Rockchic You mean you actually have time on your hands from your other username "Circle of Eidolon" own up we know that is you

rockchic65 wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Caroline, I appreciate your enthusiasm for Lambert. However, I would suggest toning it down on this forum. I know all you want to do is convert the nonbelievers, but it’s only leading you to calling people “hateful bitch”. What good is that to anyone? I agree with the sentiment here that you are doing more harm than good for Lambert with your posts. It’s great that you like him, and I’m glad his music brings you joy. But you are ultimately turning people off to him.

She's doing it on purpose because of all the crap that gets thrown at him by a handful on here - not the best idea I agree but it's pretty obvious the more they call him the more she posts links to solo interviews, appearances etc, she's not trying to convert them to like him she's just spamming them to annoy. I must admit I had a brief second of wanting to post about 100 links to everything he's done in the last two years just to piss em off lol but sanity prevailed and tbh they aren't worth the effort.

Jazz+ wrote: @Rockchic You mean you actually have time on your hands from your other username "Circle of Eidolon" own up we know that is you

SweetCaroline wrote: “@marieosmond Who else loves @adamlambert?? Adam not only do you have an incredible voice but you are an amazing entertainer! We loved having you on @thetalkcbs #thetalk”

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “@marieosmond Who else loves @adamlambert?? Adam not only do you have an incredible voice but you are an amazing entertainer! We loved having you on @thetalkcbs #thetalk”

Well that didn't take long for you to post another tweet. I guess you will never learn, but good to have it out there now that you do this on purpose to annoy, all because you feel crap is thrown at AL. Instead of maturely discussing it, you spam away once again. Like never before your jig is up. You really should be banned.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “@marieosmond Who else loves @adamlambert?? Adam not only do you have an incredible voice but you are an amazing entertainer! We loved having you on @thetalkcbs #thetalk”

Well that didn't take long for you to post another tweet. I guess you will never learn, but good to have it out there now that you do this on purpose to annoy, all because you feel crap is thrown at AL. Instead of maturely discussing it, you spam away once again. Like never before your jig is up. You really should be banned.

If runner and Jazz+ are not banned by now, SC will never be banned.

Saint Jiub wrote: oops

Brancelli wrote: Caroline, I appreciate your enthusiasm for Lambert. However, I would suggest toning it down on this forum. I know all you want to do is convert the nonbelievers, but it’s only leading you to calling people “hateful bitch”. What good is that to anyone? I agree with the sentiment here that you are doing more harm than good for Lambert with your posts. It’s great that you like him, and I’m glad his music brings you joy. But you are ultimately turning people off to him.

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s fucked up, icy, because for 8 years you think and/or make every post about you! I post about Adam and you post about me and if I answer you then you make it about you. That is how whole threads about Adam got locked and even deleted over at QOL. I don’t know if you have a mental problem. I don’t and I don’t know if you do but if you do it is long past time for you to get help.

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s fucked up, icy, because for 8 years you think and/or make every post about you! I post about Adam and you post about me and if I answer you then you make it about you. That is how whole threads about Adam got locked and even deleted over at QOL. I don’t know if you have a mental problem. I don’t and I don’t know if you do but if you do it is long past time for you to get help.

Saint Jiub wrote: This is as relevent as any other SweetDementia celebrity tweet: link

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s fucked up, icy, because for 8 years you think and/or make every post about you! I post about Adam and you post about me and if I answer you then you make it about you. That is how whole threads about Adam got locked and even deleted over at QOL. I don’t know if you have a mental problem. I don’t and I don’t know if you do but if you do it is long past time for you to get help.

Aw thats so cute. Multibanned SweetDementia thinks Icy has a mental problem. I think SweetDementia might be a vampire because she can't look in mirror. Threads about Adam get locked or deleted on QOL because they have fuck-all to do with Queen and are obvious SweetDementia spam.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s fucked up, icy, because for 8 years you think and/or make every post about you! I post about Adam and you post about me and if I answer you then you make it about you. That is how whole threads about Adam got locked and even deleted over at QOL. I don’t know if you have a mental problem. I don’t and I don’t know if you do but if you do it is long past time for you to get help.

Aw thats so cute. Multibanned SweetDementia thinks Icy has a mental problem. I think SweetDementia might be a vampire because she can't look in mirror. Threads about Adam get locked or deleted on QOL because they have fuck-all to do with Queen and are obvious SweetDementia spam.

Actually there's a section over there just called Adam Lambert for his solo stuff set up by the mod presumably to keep solo posts out of the QAL section so regardless what the Queen fans think if there's a section for it then people will post in it.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Not a section, a thread. AL has no section or subforum of his own, but a thread.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Not a section, a thread. AL has no section or subforum of his own, but a thread.

Thread then but it's the same thing it's for his solo stuff and not QAL related.

SweetCaroline wrote: Saint Jiub, you are right. Technically, there is no spot on QZ for solo artists like there is on QOL. But since this is already here, just want to say I heard “Memories” by Adam Levine/Maroon 5 for the first time today. A lot of people get the two Adams mixed up and when people complain about a “thin” voice they must be referring to Levine: link

Saint Jiub wrote: Here on Queenzone, there is this "Queen + Adam Lambert" section which is subtitled "Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here". Adam's solo stuff is not a collaboration with Queen and should not be spammed here as it has fuckall to do with Queen.

Saint Jiub wrote: Icy - you should complain about my spam ... I'm feeling left out ...

MisterCosmicc wrote: No one confuses Levine and Lambert

MisterCosmicc wrote: No one confuses Levine and Lambert

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: No one confuses Levine and Lambert

Clearly you don't frequent twitter where they often get confused - tons of people talking about Lambert at the Superbowl earlier in the year so yeah loads of people do.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: No one confuses Levine and Lambert

Clearly you don't frequent twitter where they often get confused - tons of people talking about Lambert at the Superbowl earlier in the year so yeah loads of people do.

I don't get how some people got both Adam's mixed up at the Superbowl. One played, one didn't and I think is very unlikely one ever will play there.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: No one confuses Levine and Lambert

Clearly you don't frequent twitter where they often get confused - tons of people talking about Lambert at the Superbowl earlier in the year so yeah loads of people do.

I don't get how some people got both Adam's mixed up at the Superbowl. One played, one didn't and I think is very unlikely one ever will play there.

Well this is just a small sample of the one's who can't use a google search apparently and there were plenty more link link link link link link There were plenty saying it should have been QAL at the Superbowl but I doubt they'd even want to do it, why would they, it's not like they need the promo.

SweetCaroline wrote: Who is better right now?

SweetCaroline wrote: So, again, who is a better live singer right now? How many artists have you seen recently? Besides Adam, I have seen Bono, Boy George, Jim Kerr and Jeff Glynne. Neil Diamond is my all-time favorite male singer but I haven’t seen him since about 20 years ago. He is the reason I call myself “Sweet Caroline!”

SweetCaroline wrote: It’s fucked up, icy, because for 8 years you think and/or make every post about you! I post about Adam and you post about me and if I answer you then you make it about you. That is how whole threads about Adam got locked and even deleted over at QOL. I don’t know if you have a mental problem. I don’t and I don’t know if you do but if you do it is long past time for you to get help.

SweetCaroline wrote: I have seen Bono, Boy George, Jim Kerr and Jeff Glynne.

SweetCaroline wrote: No, Jeff Lynne is the leader of Jeff Lynne’s ELO! Slip of the finger! He and they are fantastic!

Holly2003 wrote: I like their song Mr Glue Sky.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I like their song Mr Glue Sky.

Wow man that's cosmic. It's so majestic and magnificent, I have corny, schtick planets revolving around my head. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I like their song Mr Glue Sky.

Wow man that's cosmic. It's so majestic and magnificent, I have corny, schtick planets revolving around my head. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Ahem, SJ. How could you forget spectacular ;-).

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I like their song Mr Glue Sky.

Wow man that's cosmic. It's so majestic and magnificent, I have corny, schtick planets revolving around my head. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Ahem, SJ. How could you forget spectacular ;-).

I told you I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. Duh.

SweetCaroline wrote: No, Jeff Lynne is the leader of Jeff Lynne’s ELO! Slip of the finger! He and they are fantastic!

Brancelli wrote: Then there is this guy, who for me is the best: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Dimash has an amazing range, but to me his high range sounds very much like a female whereas Adam’s very high range does not sound that way. Thanks, Brancelli, for your very reasonable comments. I just think Adam has it all — voice, diction, charisma, personality, looks, style, dependability, humility, articulate and wonderful sense of humor!

Brancelli wrote: And of course there’s Jeff Buckley: link

SweetCaroline wrote: Dimash has an amazing range, but to me his high range sounds very much like a female whereas Adam’s very high range does not sound that way. Thanks, Brancelli, for your very reasonable comments. I just think Adam has it all — voice, diction, charisma, personality, looks, style, dependability, humility, articulate and wonderful sense of humor!

Jazz+ wrote: Adam Lambert does NOT have it all. He cannot play any instrument or even write music. He is manufactured rubbish and Brian and Roger hype him to the high heavens and still he cannot get a single in to the UK charts. He is a gimmick and a Z lister like that other has been Rhydian Roberts another Xfactor looser.

SweetCaroline wrote: He is brilliant — a gift from God: link

SweetCaroline wrote: He doesn’t need to play a musical instrument. His voice is his instrument and it is not manufactured.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam plays the guitar ..... link

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the world ends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people will be listening to Freddie sing. Adam won’t even be a memory.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: He doesn’t need to play a musical instrument. His voice is his instrument and it is not manufactured.

What happens if one day he has vocal issues? He isn't a strong growth song writer, so he doesn't even have that to fall back on.

PrimeJiveUSA wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: He doesn’t need to play a musical instrument. His voice is his instrument and it is not manufactured.

What happens if one day he has vocal issues? He isn't a strong growth song writer, so he doesn't even have that to fall back on.

He's supposed to have a net worth of 30 million dollars so I wouldn't think he has to "fall back on" anything.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy is so compassionate when it comes to Adam’s future. Mister Cosmic is worried that we will be listening to Freddie and not Adam when it is the end of the world. I’m just thinking about what I have to do tomorrow! One day at a time, folks! Enjoy the moment you are in because the next one might not come! I saw my husband drop dead at age 35! And that was 46 years ago!

SweetCaroline wrote: Dimash has an amazing range, but to me his high range sounds very much like a female whereas Adam’s very high range does not sound that way. Thanks, Brancelli, for your very reasonable comments. I just think Adam has it all — voice, diction, charisma, personality, looks, style, dependability, humility, articulate and wonderful sense of humor!

Brancelli wrote: Here's an example of Dimash singing full head voice 5th octave notes, and mixing in some soprano too. He sings 2 different A5s here (Full voice @ 4:10, and soprano @ 4:44). Different techniques for same note. Do you think Adam, who you consider the best live singer, could duplicate this song? link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Here's an example of Dimash singing full head voice 5th octave notes, and mixing in some soprano too. He sings 2 different A5s here (Full voice @ 4:10, and soprano @ 4:44). Different techniques for same note. Do you think Adam, who you consider the best live singer, could duplicate this song? link

----- I'm afraid SweetCaroline will take no notice. She will not, and cannot admit that anyone is "better" than AL, or matter if the artist/s is from years ago or more recently. It goes against everything SweetCaroline believes about Adam. Hell, she's even tried to knock Freddie down to make AL seem better a few times. It can't get through to her that somepeople don't feel the same way she does, that's basically it. Dimash is pretty good, thanks for "introducing" his music on QZ.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Here's an example of Dimash singing full head voice 5th octave notes, and mixing in some soprano too. He sings 2 different A5s here (Full voice @ 4:10, and soprano @ 4:44). Different techniques for same note. Do you think Adam, who you consider the best live singer, could duplicate this song? link

----- I'm afraid SweetCaroline will take no notice. She will not, and cannot admit that anyone is "better" than AL, or matter if the artist/s is from years ago or more recently. It goes against everything SweetCaroline believes about Adam. Hell, she's even tried to knock Freddie down to make AL seem better a few times. It can't get through to her that somepeople don't feel the same way she does, that's basically it. Dimash is pretty good, thanks for "introducing" his music on QZ.

And I'm not even saying definitively Dimash is the best male singer. I'm only using him as evidence Adam is not. And I truly do like Adam and think he is a great singer. I am welcome to other's suggestions for best singer. I'm becoming a fan of Myles Kennedy now thanks to Holly. I guess my point here is that I don't like the premise of this thread, no matter how good a singer is. It's difficult to say who is the best live singer. There are 7 billion people here, so don't neglect Asia when you make that claim. No one really knows. All I can say is, from what I've heard in my lifetime, Dimash is the most skilled singer technically I've had the privelidge to hear. But I'm always welcome to hear more, and I love several vocalists.

Brancelli wrote: This is studio, but a great example of Lambert's skill, even showcases some falsetto, but goes right back into it head on: link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the world ends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people will be listening to Freddie sing. Adam won’t even be a memory.

You make me think of a few things. When I had monumental things in my life happen , Freddie and Queen is some of the music that I turned too. When my father was dying, DOOL was the song I played over and over, and I was thinking of even playing it at his funeral . Never even crossed my mind to play Lambert, he has no song that "fits" something like that if it makes sense. I do think he will be pretty much forgotten in years to come, but I will say I think he had some promise, but he put Q+AL first. I think he stalled his own career.

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the world ends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people will be listening to Freddie sing. Adam won’t even be a memory.

SweetCaroline wrote: When I started this thread, I was ...

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the world ends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people will be listening to Freddie sing. Adam won’t even be a memory.

Has to be one of your most idiotic comments yet, really on a roll with the idiocy on this thread!!

SweetCaroline wrote: When I started this thread, I was referring to the here and now, not to singers who are no longer here or who will be here in the future. Of course, I was not including Freddie or George Michael or anyone else who is deceased. And .... I’m talking about LIVE performances, not those that are recorded. I’m just waking up so haven’t played the links posted by Brancelli. One more thing, Miss Icy, I have never said anything derogatory about your parents and you know it. My comments were about YOU, not them!

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: When the world ends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people will be listening to Freddie sing. Adam won’t even be a memory.

You make me think of a few things. When I had monumental things in my life happen , Freddie and Queen is some of the music that I turned too. When my father was dying, DOOL was the song I played over and over, and I was thinking of even playing it at his funeral . Never even crossed my mind to play Lambert, he has no song that "fits" something like that if it makes sense. I do think he will be pretty much forgotten in years to come, but I will say I think he had some promise, but he put Q+AL first. I think he stalled his own career.

So because you and Cosmicc don't rate Adam no one will lol. Tons of Adam's fans get the same feeling from Adam as you do from Freddie, just because none of his songs fit your feelings doesn't mean there's not songs of his that other people don't connect to and his voice makes tons of people feel happy when they're going through a rough patch, in fact there's tons of people who claim he his music and voice help them through all sorts of things, just like there'll be tons of people who say the same about every artist out there, no idea what's so hard to understand about that, so no he won't be forgotten by the people he matters to just like Freddie won't by you.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I’ve never heard Adam mentioned on the radio except if it was Queen related about touring with Brian and Roger.

MisterCosmicc wrote: It's one of my greatest, most honest statements. You doubt that Freddie will be listened to when the world ends? That's the most idiotic thought you ever had. Considering Freddie is constantly listened to, and gets more fans every year, and radio stations are playing his music 24/7, and people listen to Queen's CD's, cassettes, vinyl records, downloads, videos, all 24/7... Freddie will be listened to as the world ends. People may be in fear, pain, or at peace... but Freddie will be the last thing they hear as they take their last breath.

Iron Butterfly wrote: What I feel about Freddie is nothing like what some people feel about AL. Do you see me going on about how sexy Freddie looked? Or posting pics of Freddie as a young child? That alone is different, at least I can say I admire and respect Freddie for his talent, and courage instead of how he looked. Feel Something was the most powerful and honest I've heard AL be, I give him kudos for that. But will it be playing on radio as a classic pop artist and talked about years from now, I don't think so, and I'm pretty sure his mediocre edm music won't be played, nor will his covers. In many years ways, he is a pretty forgettable artist. Even with Brian and Roger, plus the Queen legacy isn't able to tour make his music sell a great deal of his music. Instead there are some Glamberts always repeating his music and videos just to try to boost his numbers.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: What I feel about Freddie is nothing like what some people feel about AL. Do you see me going on about how sexy Freddie looked? Or posting pics of Freddie as a young child? That alone is different, at least I can say I admire and respect Freddie for his talent, and courage instead of how he looked. Feel Something was the most powerful and honest I've heard AL be, I give him kudos for that. But will it be playing on radio as a classic pop artist and talked about years from now, I don't think so, and I'm pretty sure his mediocre edm music won't be played, nor will his covers. In many years ways, he is a pretty forgettable artist. Even with Brian and Roger, plus the Queen legacy isn't able to tour make his music sell a great deal of his music. Instead there are some Glamberts always repeating his music and videos just to try to boost his numbers.

I was talking about how Adam's music, voice and him as a person affects people in the same way Freddie did you and others and no doubt lots of artists do their fans, to say he's forgettable is idiotic, he's not the least bit forgettable to the people who love him any more than Freddie is to you - there's plenty people don't care for Queen or Freddie and think he was crap, he's pretty forgettable to them, it's all relative and when you try to make out Adam isn't important to people just because he's not important to you it sounds stupid especially considering the number of comments to the contrary all over his vids, facebook, twitter and plenty random comments on twitter as well, clearly he matters to lots of people but no one artist matters to everyone not even Freddie. Why does it have to be a pissing contest all time - that's what's so pathetic about the whole subject.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: I’ve never heard Adam mentioned on the radio except if it was Queen related about touring with Brian and Roger.

Really link So you completely missed all the radio stations he's visited in the last couple of months in the UK, Germany and the US then.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: It's one of my greatest, most honest statements. You doubt that Freddie will be listened to when the world ends? That's the most idiotic thought you ever had. Considering Freddie is constantly listened to, and gets more fans every year, and radio stations are playing his music 24/7, and people listen to Queen's CD's, cassettes, vinyl records, downloads, videos, all 24/7... Freddie will be listened to as the world ends. People may be in fear, pain, or at peace... but Freddie will be the last thing they hear as they take their last breath.

No I don't doubt Freddie will be listened to for years to come - no idea when the world will end though but to imply that Freddie will be listened to but Adam won't even be a memory is idiotic, he'll be a memory to the people he matters to - just because that's not you doesn't mean he doesn't matter to others, there's plenty people feel exactly the same way about Adam as you and others do about Freddie - in other words it's your pissing contest on Freddie's behalf that's idiotic!!!

AngelR wrote: Queen had zero Grammys while they were an active band. Not sure if Freddie's solo work was ever nominated? Wasn't it a big flop considering his popularity? Adam Lambert has a Grammy nomination for the best male vocals though. :-)

SweetCaroline wrote: No, Adele is not the best LIVE singer. She has Grammys for her autotuned recordings!

MisterCosmicc wrote: I love how you are so offended by this. However, look at Adam's last six or seven singles... he's already nearly forgotten musically. It'll be even more so in a hundred or a thousand years. Adam Worshippers will be long gone.

AngelR wrote: Queen had zero Grammys while they were an active band. Not sure if Freddie's solo work was ever nominated? Wasn't it a big flop considering his popularity? Adam Lambert has a Grammy nomination for the best male vocals though. :-)

MisterCosmicc wrote: I'm not a UK resident, but I must say... all those visits and still no one would buy his music?!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Queen had zero Grammys while they were an active band. Not sure if Freddie's solo work was ever nominated? Wasn't it a big flop considering his popularity? Adam Lambert has a Grammy nomination for the best male vocals though. :-)

So is Grammys that important for you as an AL fan? Let's see if this year AL will be nominated for Grammys, or even one. Somehow I doubt it. ;-)

rockchic65 wrote: if you don't have the number of followers of a Swift or Sheeran et al you don't often get an instant hit.

rockchic65 wrote: So you imagine people constantly buy music now instead of streaming do you? And why does his music shoot up the itunes chart every time he does an appearance like Strictly over here or The Talk in the US?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Queen had zero Grammys while they were an active band. Not sure if Freddie's solo work was ever nominated? Wasn't it a big flop considering his popularity? Adam Lambert has a Grammy nomination for the best male vocals though. :-)

So is Grammys that important for you as an AL fan? Let's see if this year AL will be nominated for Grammys, or even one. Somehow I doubt it. ;-)

He's not eligible this year his music was out too late so he definitely won't.

Iron Butterfly wrote: My whole music m world does revolve around Lambert, I'm actually glad that I like other artists Mohan just him. I do think he is a forgettable artist and I doubt 10, 20 years from now that people still will be playing and talking about him. Ok, I take some of what I said back. I'm sure he matters to his fans. Why is a pissing contest, look at the thread title...but don't worry I know that was done to annoy because SweetCaroline didn't like what was said about AL. Besides, not as if she has great musical knowlege to know there are better singer gers out there than Lambert.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: I'm not a UK resident, but I must say... all those visits and still no one would buy his music?!

So you imagine people constantly buy music now instead of streaming do you? And why does his music shoot up the itunes chart every time he does an appearance like Strictly over here or The Talk in the US?

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: if you don't have the number of followers of a Swift or Sheeran et al you don't often get an instant hit.

Instant hit, gradual hit. I love how you classify them. Adam doesn't have any hit... and it's not because he doesn't have as many followers as them.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: So you imagine people constantly buy music now instead of streaming do you? And why does his music shoot up the itunes chart every time he does an appearance like Strictly over here or The Talk in the US?

Streaming is including in the Billboard Top 200. Just because you're up there on iTunes, it doesn't mean the overall sales aren't well. All streaming is included onto the Billboard Top 200. Because when people appear at a public event... of course more people will buy it... that's promotion. It doesn't give him hit records now, does it?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: My whole music m world does revolve around Lambert, I'm actually glad that I like other artists Mohan just him. I do think he is a forgettable artist and I doubt 10, 20 years from now that people still will be playing and talking about him. Ok, I take some of what I said back. I'm sure he matters to his fans. Why is a pissing contest, look at the thread title...but don't worry I know that was done to annoy because SweetCaroline didn't like what was said about AL. Besides, not as if she has great musical knowlege to know there are better singer gers out there than Lambert.

Plenty of his fans have other artists they listen to they aren't all die hard Adam only fans by any means and he's clearly not forgettable to plenty of people, you only need to see all the comments on Twitter every time he does an appearance, and I'm talking random people who see him not his die hard fans so like I said he may be forgettable to you and some others but in the scheme of things he'll still have his core group of fans who won't be going anywhere and he gains new fans every time he does an appearance. The pissing contest is the way the Freddie fans are so butt hurt by what people like SC post that they have to constantly put him down to elevate Freddie when there's never been a contest between them in the first place, even Adam has no intention of trying to compete with Freddie.

Iron Butterfly wrote: It very well may shoot up a bit. Thing is, even that doesn't last. What's his numbers lately for Velvet?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I doubt he would be nominamed next year either. ;-)

rockchic65 wrote: blah blah so I'd say he's doing fine.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: My whole music m world does revolve around Lambert, I'm actually glad that I like other artists Mohan just him. I do think he is a forgettable artist and I doubt 10, 20 years from now that people still will be playing and talking about him. Ok, I take some of what I said back. I'm sure he matters to his fans. Why is a pissing contest, look at the thread title...but don't worry I know that was done to annoy because SweetCaroline didn't like what was said about AL. Besides, not as if she has great musical knowlege to know there are better singer gers out there than Lambert.

Plenty of his fans have other artists they listen to they aren't all die hard Adam only fans by any means and he's clearly not forgettable to plenty of people, you only need to see all the comments on Twitter every time he does an appearance, and I'm talking random people who see him not his die hard fans so like I said he may be forgettable to you and some others but in the scheme of things he'll still have his core group of fans who won't be going anywhere and he gains new fans every time he does an appearance. The pissing contest is the way the Freddie fans are so butt hurt by what people like SC post that they have to constantly put him down to elevate Freddie when there's never been a contest between them in the first place, even Adam has no intention of trying to compete with Freddie.

Twitter isn't my music bible so to speak. I do look sometimes and it's a bit nuts. No music news these last few days, but it's about AL's personal life. Omg, he can make a pie!! Crap like that, so no, twitter isn't my go to. Hey, I'm not having a go at you here, but it was you who explained why SweetCaroline does what she does here. I always thought it was tit for tat, and you pretty much said it yourself. SweetCaroline has often compared AL to Freddie, yes she basically thinks Lambert is better than Mercury. Um no, and I should be able to disagree about that, a day her other shit she posts on QZ.

Holly2003 wrote: Of course you would as that's your role here, Lambert PR, and pulling 'facts' out of your butt when needed.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I doubt he would be nominamed next year either. ;-)

Who knows or cares, as someone pointed out Queen weren't nominated much either, didn't make any difference to them or the fans who love them.

Iron Butterfly wrote: More music will be released up to next year's Grammys, I have a feeling AL won't be nominamed next year. I think Velvet will be lost in the shuffle, plenty of things happen in a year. As to who cat6es, currently SweetCaroline's griping as she has done every year for nearly a decade now. Her rants about the Grammys and those who get awards. Every year and award season it seems.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam isn’t Taylor Swift or Adele (thank goodness) so he won’t be nominated. The only time he was nominated was for my least favorite song! As Icy proves, it has to be for a tear jerker (Feel Somethin’) or a rap or Carrie Underwood country song! He and Javi have parted ways so he should put out a Sam Smith woe is me album!

SweetCaroline wrote: Good general article about everything: link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam isn’t Taylor Swift or Adele (thank goodness) so he won’t be nominated. The only time he was nominated was for my least favorite song! As Icy proves, it has to be for a tear jerker (Feel Somethin’) or a rap or Carrie Underwood country song! He and Javi have parted ways so he should put out a Sam Smith woe is me album!

Oh honey. If AL ever had what Taylor and Adele had, you would be shouting your glee from the rooftops. There is no good reason that you are so bitter and envious of Taylor and Adele, but they have both sold more and done more than AL, that's basically it. Isn't it enough for you that Taylor added AL in one of her videos? Or you going to hold on the grudge because she's more popular than AL? Pretty obvious. Um, when did I mention things have to be a tear jerker, rap or country to be nominamed? I never have said any such thing, let alone prove it. Once again, you twist yourself I to knots, or lie straight out about me once again. Oh AL broke up with his boyfriend, I actually don't care, but why would you even bring that up on Queen board. Do you want to us to feel sorry for him or something? Why would you even delve in his personal life once again? Yesterday a pic of AL as a kid and today you say he split with his boyfriend...which has nothing to do with anything being discussed here. Sam Smith isn't all woe is me, you'd know that it if you listened to his music. You won't, and you haven't listened to a full album of Sam's because his music makes you want to jump off a bridge, your own words. AL would be lucky if he had a song or two that has connected with many people the way Sam has, or to do what Sam has done. You want to go on about AL's looks and style, but I can say you don't look much beyond that. Say what you want about me, at least I like the music that I do for the actual music, not how sexy, gorgeous, good looking I think someone is. Was also being woe is me with Feel Something? Even I don't think so, he was being very open and honest. Of course what you say about another artist never goes for AL. He is the one and only one in your mind who matters. All you prove is how bitter, envious and silly you are.

rockchic65 wrote: itunes

Saint Jiub wrote: Sweet Caroline is Fox News ... Fair and Balanced.

MisterCosmicc wrote: It must be embarressing for Adam to play huge concerts with Brian and Roger, singing songs Freddie made famous, and then go on the road solo playing small concerts. I saw a video of one of his concerts, it didn't look anything extravegant. Songs were subpar, by the way. Poor management and musical direction!

SweetCaroline wrote: He’s performing tomorrow night without Brian and Roger on the James Corden Show on CBS. Adam is doing OK!

Saint Jiub wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: He’s performing tomorrow night without Brian and Roger on the James Corden Show on CBS. Adam is doing OK!

A C-level talk show host that lives off the laurels of Stephan Colbert, has a C-level musical guest that lives off the laurels of Queen+

AngelR wrote: Just following his older brothers steps more like.... link

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not the only one who thinks he is the best: “That’s why Adam Lambert is the most impressive, the most outstanding, the most perfect, the most stunning, gorgeous, beautiful, simply the best and greatest vocalist in the whole world! The ONE AND ONLY @adamlambert! link

MisterCosmicc wrote: It must be embarressing for Adam to play huge concerts with Brian and Roger, singing songs Freddie made famous, and then go on the road solo playing small concerts. I saw a video of one of his concerts, it didn't look anything extravegant. Songs were subpar, by the way. Poor management and musical direction!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Living On My Own sold more copies in 1985 worldwide, than Adam has sold of all of his singles combined to date worldwide.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, like I've said better money rolling in for Q+AL, living off other people's legacies than touring his own solo music. Of course, SweetCaroline will come back that he has toured all over with his solo music. It doesn't seem his heart was in in it with his last tour, come to think about it. I think it was a dose of reality for him.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Just following his older brothers steps more like.... link

More likely AL plugging a song that is nowhere near what Queen did at that time. One of those things isn't like the other. Queen were pretty popular at that time with a pretty popular song and album . AL not so much.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, like I've said better money rolling in for Q+AL, living off other people's legacies than touring his own solo music. Of course, SweetCaroline will come back that he has toured all over with his solo music. It doesn't seem his heart was in in it with his last tour, come to think about it. I think it was a dose of reality for him.

He does both, he's not living off anyone's legacy he's performing with two original members who still want to play live the music they helped create and since Freddie's no longer able they need a singer, why should they give up what they love to do because of Freddie's untimely death? Was it their fault he died? And why shouldn't Adam tour with them so they can still perform? You don't know the first thing about the guy if you think his heart isn't in doing his own music and performing solo and he was perfectly happy on his last solo tour as he was on the others and will be on the next one.

Iron Butterfly wrote: :-O Come on rockchic, never have I once said that it was Brian's and Roger's fault that Freddie died. Why even "ask" me that? No, it's not their fault that Freddie died. I don't even know why you would ask me or anyone else that, sorry you lose any point to you were trying to make.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: :-O Come on rockchic, never have I once said that it was Brian's and Roger's fault that Freddie died. Why even "ask" me that? No, it's not their fault that Freddie died. I don't even know why you would ask me or anyone else that, sorry you lose any point to you were trying to make.

Because constantly harping on about Adam riding coat tails, using them to further his career or making money off it etc etc all implies he shouldn't be doing it and by default they shouldn't be touring with him. Sick of all the fans who seem to think only Freddie mattered and Brian & Roger should curl up and drink cocoa since they'll never be Queen again since 91.

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

And why shouldn't he make money from the shows, he works hard and if not for him there wouldn't be shows (they need a singer) so of course he gets paid well but no one knows the percentage of the money he makes that comes from QAL as opposed to other sources, he doesn't just tour with Queen he does plenty of projects of his own and not just music so his earnings are far from all Queen related. I asked that as a question, nowhere did I say you'd actually said that but IMO a lot of fans comments make it seem like Brian & Roger should have thrown in the towel when Freddie died as if they shouldn't want to still do what they love and IMO it's not their fault their career as a band was cut short and it shouldn't stop them still touring if that's what makes them happy. I'm sure glamberts are just as sick of the petty contest a few Queen fans have got going on constantly putting the guy down for every single thing he does - he can't do a thing right apparently whether with or without Queen, it's always the wrong thing, wrong music, wrong tv show to appear on, wrong thing to be singing on said tv show, wrong project, wrong people to work with on this or that project, wrong timing of releasing a song, wrong song to release etc etc.

SweetCaroline wrote: “@camilagreymusic Tonight tune in!!! Tickling the ivories with @adamlambert on @latelateshow”

AngelR wrote: " do realize you don't need to sell as much music on the iTunes chart to have a hit, compared to the Billboard Digital Chart, right? It's because not everyone has iTunes. You should watch the Billboard Digital charts to see his overall sales." MisterCosmicc, you do realize you don't need to sell music at all to be on the charts, as hardly anyone buys music nowadays. I only get new CDs or downloads if it's included in a concert tickets price. Streaming is important! Some artists are charting with as little as just over 30 albums sold a week, just bizzare if you compare even to the sales from 10 years ago. All earnings are in touring not album sales. Adam's last tour was brilliant, by the way. He's amazing live performer. I saw his show in the packed Hammersmith Apollo with many Queen fans, celebrities, thousands of glamberts and press attending. I hope he will tour again sometimes soon.... completely agree with you about poor management and lame music choices. I guess he knows that as his live music arrangements are often in completely different music styles from the records.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Living On My Own sold more copies in 1985 worldwide, than Adam has sold of all of his singles combined to date worldwide.

Care to post the sales figures from 85 for that single then we can see, what website are you using to find the figures?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: Just following his older brothers steps more like.... link

More likely AL plugging a song that is nowhere near what Queen did at that time. One of those things isn't like the other. Queen were pretty popular at that time with a pretty popular song and album . AL not so much.

Wow - so first of all he's riding coat tails when he sings with Queen or sings a Queen song solo and then when he goes around singing his own music he's plugging a song that's nowhere near as good as Queen or Freddie and he's not as popular. Read all these comments back and then wonder why I call it a pissing contest lol!!!!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Vinyl singles are also in these days... something Adam Lambert doesn't care about. He aims to sell his music to teenyboppers, but the old ladies are the ones interested. College students, young adults... they adore vinyl records.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Check out the chart positions worldwide... are you too nervous to go onto a Queen site that doesn't mention Adam?

MisterCosmicc wrote: Can you name an Adam song that is better than Play The Game?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

And why shouldn't he make money from the shows, he works hard and if not for him there wouldn't be shows (they need a singer) so of course he gets paid well but no one knows the percentage of the money he makes that comes from QAL as opposed to other sources, he doesn't just tour with Queen he does plenty of projects of his own and not just music so his earnings are far from all Queen related. I asked that as a question, nowhere did I say you'd actually said that but IMO a lot of fans comments make it seem like Brian & Roger should have thrown in the towel when Freddie died as if they shouldn't want to still do what they love and IMO it's not their fault their career as a band was cut short and it shouldn't stop them still touring if that's what makes them happy. I'm sure glamberts are just as sick of the petty contest a few Queen fans have got going on constantly putting the guy down for every single thing he does - he can't do a thing right apparently whether with or without Queen, it's always the wrong thing, wrong music, wrong tv show to appear on, wrong thing to be singing on said tv show, wrong project, wrong people to work with on this or that project, wrong timing of releasing a song, wrong song to release etc etc.

I think Queen ended with Made In Heaven. I don't think Q+AL is Queen. Queen to me will always be Freddie, Brian Roger and John. That doesn't mean I have faulted, or ever have faulted Brian and Roger for Freddie passing away. Since I've never stated any such thing, why would you even ask me that? It's a hell of a "question" to ask or imply about any Freddie/Queen fan. Sorry, that's messed up. Why would I ever fault them for Freddie's death? That just as crazy as it being said Queen fans wanted Brian Roger and John to die with Freddie. It's wrong, and no matter what I think of Brian and Roger these last few years, doesn't mean I fault them for Freddie's death. I never did, and I never will. If QOL was still working, I'd go tell you to search my posts to see for yourself. Because that is something the AL fans will likely believe about me, and it's something I never thought, said, or posted in all my years on any Queen board, I want that to be clear here and now. I honestly don't care that the Glamberts on Queen boards are sick of the petty, pissing contest as you put it. Some Glamberts do no favours for themselves or AL Ifans any Glamberts cant take or deal with what is said on Queen boards, then it's not the place for them, to be honest. It's a Queen board first, not an AL worshipping board. Big difference there between the two. Wait until someone runs back here to spam and gush about AL and his Corden appearance later on.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

And why shouldn't he make money from the shows, he works hard and if not for him there wouldn't be shows (they need a singer) so of course he gets paid well but no one knows the percentage of the money he makes that comes from QAL as opposed to other sources, he doesn't just tour with Queen he does plenty of projects of his own and not just music so his earnings are far from all Queen related. I asked that as a question, nowhere did I say you'd actually said that but IMO a lot of fans comments make it seem like Brian & Roger should have thrown in the towel when Freddie died as if they shouldn't want to still do what they love and IMO it's not their fault their career as a band was cut short and it shouldn't stop them still touring if that's what makes them happy. I'm sure glamberts are just as sick of the petty contest a few Queen fans have got going on constantly putting the guy down for every single thing he does - he can't do a thing right apparently whether with or without Queen, it's always the wrong thing, wrong music, wrong tv show to appear on, wrong thing to be singing on said tv show, wrong project, wrong people to work with on this or that project, wrong timing of releasing a song, wrong song to release etc etc.

I think Queen ended with Made In Heaven. I don't think Q+AL is Queen. Queen to me will always be Freddie, Brian Roger and John. That doesn't mean I have faulted, or ever have faulted Brian and Roger for Freddie passing away. Since I've never stated any such thing, why would you even ask me that? It's a hell of a "question" to ask or imply about any Freddie/Queen fan. Sorry, that's messed up. Why would I ever fault them for Freddie's death? That just as crazy as it being said Queen fans wanted Brian Roger and John to die with Freddie. It's wrong, and no matter what I think of Brian and Roger these last few years, doesn't mean I fault them for Freddie's death. I never did, and I never will. If QOL was still working, I'd go tell you to search my posts to see for yourself. Because that is something the AL fans will likely believe about me, and it's something I never thought, said, or posted in all my years on any Queen board, I want that to be clear here and now. I honestly don't care that the Glamberts on Queen boards are sick of the petty, pissing contest as you put it. Some Glamberts do no favours for themselves or AL Ifans any Glamberts cant take or deal with what is said on Queen boards, then it's not the place for them, to be honest. It's a Queen board first, not an AL worshipping board. Big difference there between the two. Wait until someone runs back here to spam and gush about AL and his Corden appearance later on.

And why shouldn't they post about Adam if they want, any normal person would ignore this section who has no interest in Adam so the only reason they're on here is to put the guy down - all because one or two of his over zealous fans post everything he does. Is that Adam's fault? No, no more than it's Brian & Roger's fault that Freddie's not still out there singing with them. That's the point I was making - I wasn't accusing you or anyone of blaming them for Freddie's death I was pointing out they weren't responsible and they were likely as devasted that firstly their colleauge and friend died and secondly that their whole career was wiped out at the same time and that if they've now found a guy they love working with and gives them the opportunity to still be out there doing what they love it beggars belief that anyone would begrudge them that or constantly be putting them down for that decision. You're right it's not Queen now it's QAL, they've never pretended to be just Queen and Adam has never once said he's a replacement for Freddie, in fact he just said in an interview the other day that it annoys him when he gets called a replacement but it's all that's available now of the band and there's still a ton of fans out their enjoying what's left and it would be nice if they could talk about it in peace without all the bitching and back biting that goes on here. Yes it's a Queen board but this section is Queen and Adam related and since Adam is for the time being is part of the Queen family (B & R's words) then it should be ok to post about him. I don't particularly care about discussing his solo stuff on here but clearly cosmicc makes it his lifes work to mention Adam solo all the time, going on and on about solo sales (or lack of) and his solo songs etc so if he (who has no interest in Adam except to call him) can post ad nauseam about him as a solo artist then SC posing a link to something solo shouldn't be a problem. If the trolls weren't so keen to put him down for his solo stuff on this part of the board constantly then maybe SC wouldn't feel the need to keep posting everything he does!!!

Iron Butterfly wrote: I don't know why you are being so testy with me. I know Brian and Roger are not responsible for Freddie dying. Let's get that clear too. I don't recall one Queen fan ever saying anything such thing. Come on. SweetCaroline would be posting what she does about AL, almost no matter what. It's what she does, somehow she thinks she is his ambassador or PR person. Not as if a pic of a young AL, or the fact he recently ended a relationship has anything to do with anything being discussed here, musically. Some things about the guy should not be posted on any message boards at all, but it is, and it's shared like crazy. SweetCaroline runs here to post such things, just because she's unhappy about what some say about AL, so it's a big case of tit for tat for her. I knew it all along. SweetCaroline who has not much music knowledge at all claims AL is the best singer on the planet. Are we Queen fans here just supposed to swallow that? No thanks. Are we supposed to agree that AL has replaced Freddie? No thanks. I'm glad most of us here can think for ourselves and make up our own minds.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, you are going to break THIS forum with your longgggggg dissertations about nothing! Do you have to keep quoting other people’s comments? Can’t you just write their name and then answer in 25 words or less like I am doing here? Must you repeat things over and over and over and over?

SweetCaroline wrote: “Brevity is the soul of wit!” And saves a lot of bandwidth, too! link

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

and he's definetly not going to be remembered for singing live for Queen.... that's just fucking rediculous.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

and he's definetly not going to be remembered for singing live for Queen.... that's just fucking rediculous.

Oh but it's not and that's the whole reason you spew your opinion about him every chance, it's blatantly obvious that it gets one or two Queen fans hot under the collar when they realize Adam constantly gets mentioned in the context of Queen in the media, it precedes a lot of comments from the average Joe out there as well and then when he does solo stuff he gets mentioned in his own right - another bug bear you seem to have a problem with, the fact he's known for both equally - on the one hand you don't want anyone to be mentioning him in his own right since that would play into your theory of having hardly any fans and being known only for Queen but on the other hand you don't want him being known for Queen as that means he's talked about as Queen's current frontman, you don't like that either. Bit of a dilemma there, can't win either way!!!

MisterCosmicc wrote: I don't even think Adam is a bad singer. I haven't once criticized Adam singing a Queen song (except on Somebody To Love, and it wasn't the singing, it was the sexual references). Have you noticed that yet? I criticize Adam's solo work, but not his singing for Queen. I say he has poor management, and makes poor musical decisions... of course I think even his fans know he's capable of creating crap better than Super Power. I especially criticize those who think Adam is the reason for Queen's increasing popularity.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Oh and I’ve said Adam doesn’t sing as husky as Freddie on the rock songs... but he doesn’t. Wish he did! If he did, things would be so much better to have a vocalist that actually sounds as if he has a rock and roll bone in his body.

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

SweetCaroline wrote: And, again, Mr. Cosmic, which live QAL shows have you been to? Adam sings rock and roll just fine. My Queen favorites he has performed are Stone Cold Crazy And Machines (Or Back To Humans). His version of Whole Lotta Love is what got Spike and Roger excited about working with him.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I haven’t, I’ve watched plenty of YouTube videos, and I do have ears, I hear the audio. He doesn’t sing like a rock vocalist. Spike’s not a member of Queen, nice talent, but you act as though he is an official Queen member. When Spike saw Adam, Spike had no idea that he’d even tour with Brian and Roger again.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Oh and I’ve said Adam doesn’t sing as husky as Freddie on the rock songs... but he doesn’t. Wish he did! If he did, things would be so much better to have a vocalist that actually sounds as if he has a rock and roll bone in his body.

No he doesn't sing as husky as Freddie but I don't judge every singer by Freddie so why would I do that with Adam? There's tons of singers I love and they all sound different, keeps things interesting, I love Freddie but I'd get pretty bored eventually if every singer sang like him and had no other style. Maybe it's me but I don't really want Adam to sing like Freddie, I love his voice as it is and I can listen to the songs sung by Freddie any time I like, for a live show I don't need Adam to change the way he sings, I can honestly say there wasn't a single moment of the show where I thought I wish he'd have sung that more husky or rock. Incidentally despite what you might think he does sound different live, I've listened to the vids from the show I saw and they don't sound anywhere near the same. Same thing with Foreigner, Kelly sounded very different live as well.

snifflese wrote: Look in the mirror,Icy! You see fault in everyone, but not much in yourself. A little but more introspection might be in order and posting somewhere else other than on a QAL/Adam thread, since all you do is spew hate and negativity. You never have an original thought, it is just throwing crap back at people, accusing them of things that make no difference and a lot of the time, you don't even understand the gist of what they said. Over and out for another few weeks!

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And, again, Mr. Cosmic, which live QAL shows have you been to? Adam sings rock and roll just fine. My Queen favorites he has performed are Stone Cold Crazy And Machines (Or Back To Humans). His version of Whole Lotta Love is what got Spike and Roger excited about working with him.

If I heard this tool destroying Whole Lotta love I would not tell anybody......

runner_70 wrote: And those "tons of singers" are who? YOu are just obsessed by thins Lamebird thing

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

In your dreams. I don't think he'd end up with a footnote or a PS.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

In your dreams. I don't think he'd end up with a footnote or a PS.

Oh but he will - it's pretty obvious from the comments on social media and the media posts by music mags and news outlets etc that he'll still be talked about with Queen even after they stop touring.

Iron Butterfly wrote: From the ones who think he has replaced Freddie and sings for Queen? Thing is, will he be talked a out more for his solo music, Q+AL or his covers. What do you think?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: From the ones who think he has replaced Freddie and sings for Queen? Thing is, will he be talked a out more for his solo music, Q+AL or his covers. What do you think?

No one with any sense thinks he's replaced Freddie, he says constantly he's not a replacement and doesn't like being called that. The media occasionally call him the Queen singer but that's likely just the way they word it they don't actually talk about him like that in articles and the average Queen fan definitely doesn't think he's replacing Freddie. No idea what he'll be most known for and I don't think it matters, he's a singer and he'll be known for his voice whether that be singing solo music, Queen music or any other covers he's done it's the voice that gets talked about in the media and since he's all about the voice I'm sure he'll be happy with that. Would he like huge success with his solo music - yeah as much as any artist would but he's a realist and is happy he's still performing and has a career, anything else is a bonus.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And, again, Mr. Cosmic, which live QAL shows have you been to? Adam sings rock and roll just fine. My Queen favorites he has performed are Stone Cold Crazy And Machines (Or Back To Humans). His version of Whole Lotta Love is what got Spike and Roger excited about working with him.

If I heard this tool destroying Whole Lotta love I would not tell anybody......

That's the "example" she holds up when trying to prove AL can sing rock music. She must have posted links to him singing it countless times by now. Not the example I would try to convince people he can sing rock.

AngelR wrote: MisterCosmicc, Don't you think there's a reason why there's hardly any releases from QAL? Queen fans concentrate on streaming and buying original music as the result. Look at the statistics of Queen sales increases, it's quite impressive what they've achieved especially in the USA since their tours started with AL in 2012, and well before the movie! You can check the numbers on QOL. Not sure why any fan would deny the obvious?

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And, again, Mr. Cosmic, which live QAL shows have you been to? Adam sings rock and roll just fine. My Queen favorites he has performed are Stone Cold Crazy And Machines (Or Back To Humans). His version of Whole Lotta Love is what got Spike and Roger excited about working with him.

If I heard this tool destroying Whole Lotta love I would not tell anybody......

That's the "example" she holds up when trying to prove AL can sing rock music. She must have posted links to him singing it countless times by now. Not the example I would try to convince people he can sing rock.

The Queen songs are annoying from him but this is the worst I have ever witnessed. SOunds like a drunk drag Queen trying to do WLL Karaoke

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t hear “husky” or gritty in Freddie’s voice. He was a baritone and sang deeper than Adam is able to do but Freddie’s voice was smooth and mellow compared to other rock singers like Joe Elliott or Steven Tyler or Mick Jagger.

SweetCaroline wrote: I absolutely LOVE this ..... link

AngelR wrote: MisterCosmicc, I think I said streaming numbers! I'd include iTunes there as well. Check it out on QOL when it's back working, very interesting statistics. Of course the majority of streaming came from younger GP, new fans discovering Queen and checking their music out after/before tour. The BoRha and Don't stop me now and the Greatest Hits album were obvious winners after every tour date.

Iron Butterfly wrote: There will be a day set aside this weekend so AL fans and Glamberts if they wish they can can stream to try to push his numbers. Trying to fudge the numbers...once again.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: There will be a day set aside this weekend so AL fans and Glamberts if they wish they can can stream to try to push his numbers. Trying to fudge the numbers...once again.

Yes, they think that makes him relevant. Only relevant to their cell phones... and no one else. I'd be pissed off if I was Adam.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Not surprising. What a bunch of morons.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I bet SweetCaroline has him on repeat all day.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Glad Queen aren’t in the position where I have to beg people to play their music.

SweetCaroline wrote: And, again, Mr. Cosmic, which live QAL shows have you been to? Adam sings rock and roll just fine. My Queen favorites he has performed are Stone Cold Crazy And Machines (Or Back To Humans). His version of Whole Lotta Love is what got Spike and Roger excited about working with him.

runner_70 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: I haven’t, I’ve watched plenty of YouTube videos, and I do have ears, I hear the audio. He doesn’t sing like a rock vocalist. Spike’s not a member of Queen, nice talent, but you act as though he is an official Queen member. When Spike saw Adam, Spike had no idea that he’d even tour with Brian and Roger again.

He sings like a broadway muppet trying to do a rocksong and is failing miserably. Sad twat

SweetCaroline wrote: I absolutely LOVE this ..... link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: There will be a day set aside this weekend so AL fans and Glamberts if they wish they can can stream to try to push his numbers. Trying to fudge the numbers...once again.

Yes, they think that makes him relevant. Only relevant to their cell phones... and no one else. I'd be pissed off if I was Adam.

Putting this here before I'm called a liar again...this is how some try to fudge his numbers. And it doesn't help him.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, you are going to break THIS forum with your longgggggg dissertations about nothing! Do you have to keep quoting other people’s comments? Can’t you just write their name and then answer in 25 words or less like I am doing here? Must you repeat things over and over and over and over?

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

AngelR wrote: It's going to be a long wait....Adam Lambert will always stay in the band's history wether you like it or not.

and he's definetly not going to be remembered for singing live for Queen.... that's just fucking rediculous.

Oh but it's not and that's the whole reason you spew your opinion about him every chance, it's blatantly obvious that it gets one or two Queen fans hot under the collar when they realize Adam constantly gets mentioned in the context of Queen in the media, it precedes a lot of comments from the average Joe out there as well and then when he does solo stuff he gets mentioned in his own right - another bug bear you seem to have a problem with, the fact he's known for both equally - on the one hand you don't want anyone to be mentioning him in his own right since that would play into your theory of having hardly any fans and being known only for Queen but on the other hand you don't want him being known for Queen as that means he's talked about as Queen's current frontman, you don't like that either. Bit of a dilemma there, can't win either way!!!

It doesn't bother me that the majority of Adam articles are Queen related, in fact, it's amusing... it proves my point even more about Freddie and Queen. Adam's unintentionally being used as a promotional tool for Freddie. Most of the articles are quotes of Adam praising Freddie Mercury. In fact, it doesn't even bother me that Adam sings for Queen. Maybe I'll even see them someday. He can continure on, I don't mind. What I do mind is when Adam Worshippers thinks that Adam is the reason for Freddie's continuing popularity, or that Adam has revived Queen, or that Adam keeps Freddie's legacy alive. Thats untrue, because Freddie only gets more popular as the years go by. He always did. Fairytales of yesterday will grow, but never die.

MisterCosmicc wrote: I don't even think Adam is a bad singer. I haven't once criticized Adam singing a Queen song (except on Somebody To Love, and it wasn't the singing, it was the sexual references). Have you noticed that yet? I criticize Adam's solo work, but not his singing for Queen. I say he has poor management, and makes poor musical decisions... of course I think even his fans know he's capable of creating crap better than Super Power. I especially criticize those who think Adam is the reason for Queen's increasing popularity.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “Brevity is the soul of wit!” And saves a lot of bandwidth, too! link

It's really funny when you quote others to try make yourself look better. At least no bible quotes this time. LOLOL. Rich coming from you who could fill pages of no thought of your own, just copy and pasting tweets, glowing articles, empty posts, hissy fits and just crap. Or should I not say that. Oh look, you managed to fit in the Corden performance in here. I guess today will be you copying and pasted stuff about the performance. You know, while on the topic of brevity and wit. ;-)

SweetCaroline wrote: “Brevity is the soul of wit!” And saves a lot of bandwidth, too! link

SweetCaroline wrote: “@camilagreymusic Tonight tune in!!! Tickling the ivories with @adamlambert on @latelateshow”

SweetCaroline wrote: “INFO|It seems that Adam might sing "Closer To You" on Corden tonight/tomorrow.” That would be lovely!

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not the only one who thinks he is the best: “That’s why Adam Lambert is the most impressive, the most outstanding, the most perfect, the most stunning, gorgeous, beautiful, simply the best and greatest vocalist in the whole world! The ONE AND ONLY @adamlambert! link

SweetCaroline wrote: Good general article about everything: link

SweetCaroline wrote: AngelR, amen to what you posted regarding Adam’s live solo music tours compared to his recordings. His appearance on Good Morning America for his Original High album is an example of that. Another example of Adam bringing down the House live was his performance of After Hours from that album. You might not get that effect listening to the CD.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

AngelR wrote: MisterCosmicc, I think I said streaming numbers! I'd include iTunes there as well. Check it out on QOL when it's back working, very interesting statistics. Of course the majority of streaming came from younger GP, new fans discovering Queen and checking their music out after/before tour. The BoRha and Don't stop me now and the Greatest Hits album were obvious winners after every tour date.

Billboard has a streaming chart =) If it's not top 100, I don't want to hear about it. On US Billboard, Queen are currently at #25 on the US Billboard. To chart on the Billboard Top 200, all figures are compiled. Physical, digital, and streaming, too. You should read into it. A hit on the iTunes chart isn't a big deal unless you're a small-time, hardly known musician/band.

AngelR wrote: link

anadamfan wrote: Adam on The Original High-Tour in London. Yes, great memories! Hammersmith was filled to the max. My favorite part of the tour was the medley of Runnin/Chokehold and Sleepwalker. link and For your Entertainment was so much fun as well. link (While watching it I noticed that there were a lot of photographs standing right in front of the stage for the first couple of songs...).

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Not surprising. What a bunch of morons.

Yep, pretty much cheating. Nothing new, I'm just shocked it's still being done.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Glad Queen aren’t in the position where I have to beg people to play their music.

Saint Jiub wrote: The QAL section is not for posting about AL's solo career. Please note: Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here

Jazz+ wrote: Adam Lambert will be forgotten when Brian puts down his guitar and stops touring which will not be long, i cannot wait.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: The QAL section is not for posting about AL's solo career. Please note: Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here

Try telling that to Cosmicc then since he's the one who does nothing but go and on ad nauseam about Adam's solo music and billboard fkn charts.

MisterCosmicc wrote: What's sad is that Adam Worshippers still couldn't get Supah Pow-Wah to chart on the Billboard Hot 100 through cheating! =)

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: :-O Come on rockchic, never have I once said that it was Brian's and Roger's fault that Freddie died. Why even "ask" me that? No, it's not their fault that Freddie died. I don't even know why you would ask me or anyone else that, sorry you lose any point to you were trying to make.

Because constantly harping on about Adam riding coat tails, using them to further his career or making money off it etc etc all implies he shouldn't be doing it and by default they shouldn't be touring with him. Sick of all the fans who seem to think only Freddie mattered and Brian & Roger should curl up and drink cocoa since they'll never be Queen again since 91.

IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

Why is it that every glambert attempts rides your ass and puts words in your mouth? Every other AL critic is treated reasonably or ignored.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

And why shouldn't he make money from the shows, he works hard and if not for him there wouldn't be shows (they need a singer) so of course he gets paid well but no one knows the percentage of the money he makes that comes from QAL as opposed to other sources, he doesn't just tour with Queen he does plenty of projects of his own and not just music so his earnings are far from all Queen related. I asked that as a question, nowhere did I say you'd actually said that but IMO a lot of fans comments make it seem like Brian & Roger should have thrown in the towel when Freddie died as if they shouldn't want to still do what they love and IMO it's not their fault their career as a band was cut short and it shouldn't stop them still touring if that's what makes them happy. I'm sure glamberts are just as sick of the petty contest a few Queen fans have got going on constantly putting the guy down for every single thing he does - he can't do a thing right apparently whether with or without Queen, it's always the wrong thing, wrong music, wrong tv show to appear on, wrong thing to be singing on said tv show, wrong project, wrong people to work with on this or that project, wrong timing of releasing a song, wrong song to release etc etc.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: The QAL section is not for posting about AL's solo career. Please note: Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here

Try telling that to Cosmicc then since he's the one who does nothing but go and on ad nauseam about Adam's solo music and billboard fkn charts.

rockchic65 wrote: And why shouldn't they post about Adam if they want, Yes it's a Queen board but this section is Queen and Adam related and since Adam is for the time being is part of the Queen family (B & R's words) then it should be ok to post about him.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

Why is it that every glambert attempts rides your ass and puts words in your mouth? Every other AL critic is treated reasonably or ignored.

Not putting words in her mouth she openly says Adam's riding coat tails all the time both here and on QOL. And if you read my original comment I wasn't "Saying" she blames them for Freddie's death it was a rhetorical question meaning it's not their fault, it's a euphemism as I've already explained.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: What's sad is that Adam Worshippers still couldn't get Supah Pow-Wah to chart on the Billboard Hot 100 through cheating! =)

What's even sadder is that a supposed grown up still thinks the billboard 100 is the measure of talent - lil nas, beiber, eilish, lil baby, chris brown, dababy, dua lipa - yeah so many legends and icons on billboard, whatever will Adam do without it. And the fact you think Supah Pow Wah is the only song Adam's got out there.

MisterCosmicc wrote: What I do mind is when Adam Worshippers thinks that Adam is the reason for Freddie's continuing popularity, or that Adam has revived Queen, or that Adam keeps Freddie's legacy alive. Thats untrue, because Freddie only gets more popular as the years go by. He always did. Fairytales of yesterday will grow, but never die.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

Why is it that every glambert attempts rides your ass and puts words in your mouth? Every other AL critic is treated reasonably or ignored.

Not putting words in her mouth she openly says Adam's riding coat tails all the time both here and on QOL. And if you read my original comment I wasn't "Saying" she blames them for Freddie's death it was a rhetorical question meaning it's not their fault, it's a euphemism as I've already explained.

I don't quite get why my saying he is riding on coattails so insulting or offensive. I'm not saying you are like that, maybe annoyed. But why? I think the worst thing you ever "asked" me if I fault Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. And I don't know if you read my posts on QOL, or have interacted with me over there, it's something I've never posted or even felt. But that will be likely be something that someone else will try to pin on me, like almost every thing else she can think of. Rhetorical question to you maybe, but it's not a good one no offense. There we have it, Glamberts and AL fans ride my ass because I say AL is riding on coattails of Freddie's and Queens's legacy. Wow, ok.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Living On My Own sold more copies in 1985 worldwide, than Adam has sold of all of his singles combined to date worldwide.

Care to post the sales figures from 85 for that single then we can see, what website are you using to find the figures?

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: IMO, AL is riding on coattails. It's known he makes pretty good money from the shows. Yep, more money than his solo career without any doubt. However, that does not mean that I blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Seriously, what the actual hell. And I've never said only Freddie mattered in Queen. Queen were four members, Freddie, Brian Roger and John. I'm tired of AL fans and the Glamberts saying things about me and twisting things, some of which I've never would think, let alone say. For the record, no I don't blame Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. Unbelievable you would "ask" and try to pin that on me.

Why is it that every glambert attempts rides your ass and puts words in your mouth? Every other AL critic is treated reasonably or ignored.

Not putting words in her mouth she openly says Adam's riding coat tails all the time both here and on QOL. And if you read my original comment I wasn't "Saying" she blames them for Freddie's death it was a rhetorical question meaning it's not their fault, it's a euphemism as I've already explained.

I don't quite get why my saying he is riding on coattails so insulting or offensive. I'm not saying you are like that, maybe annoyed. But why? I think the worst thing you ever "asked" me if I fault Brian and Roger for Freddie's death. And I don't know if you read my posts on QOL, or have interacted with me over there, it's something I've never posted or even felt. But that will be likely be something that someone else will try to pin on me, like almost every thing else she can think of. Rhetorical question to you maybe, but it's not a good one no offense. There we have it, Glamberts and AL fans ride my ass because I say AL is riding on coattails of Freddie's and Queens's legacy. Wow, ok.

Excellent post Icy

SweetCaroline wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Not surprising. What a bunch of morons.

Yep, pretty much cheating. Nothing new, I'm just shocked it's still being done.

Dear god how many times are you gonna go on about that? Who gives a crap it will make zero diffence anyway since the numbers won't be counted on charts, the only reason they do it is to make sure he tours solo, more streams means the promoters will assume more interest for a tour and there's a chance his music will get on playlists if there's more streams but it already did get on playlists at the start so that won't make much difference anyway.

Iron Butterfly wrote: If I didn't know better, I would have thought I posted about AL looking like a tranny, or posted that someone was like Hitler and the Gestapo. Or to use a critically ill parent to have a go at someone for assumpotions about mental health. Funny, I don't remember ever doing any of that. It all comes down that I say AL is riding on coattails , which is pretty tame compared to other things. Oh well, at least I know something else now. Things I've found out recently, SweetCaroline spams to annoy and I'm hated pretty much because I say AL is riding on coattails. Eye opening eh.

Saint Jiub wrote: Of course, Jazz+ (Gerry) and runner will never stop posting their redundant drivel ... so there is not much hope.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: If I didn't know better, I would have thought I posted about AL looking like a tranny, or posted that someone was like Hitler and the Gestapo. Or to use a critically ill parent to have a go at someone for assumpotions about mental health. Funny, I don't remember ever doing any of that. It all comes down that I say AL is riding on coattails , which is pretty tame compared to other things. Oh well, at least I know something else now. Things I've found out recently, SweetCaroline spams to annoy and I'm hated pretty much because I say AL is riding on coattails. Eye opening eh.

If you can't see how saying Adam is riding coat tails is offensive then I don't know what to tell you, the very definition of the term is offensive.

SweetCaroline wrote: Another Adam solo event for you sweetheart Queen fans to pick on - Pittsburgh, November 22: link I wish he would sing a Christmas song like “O Holy Night!”

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, you are offended by what I say. Why? I think it's much more insulting when some people think AL is the only reason Queen is so popular these days, all out offensive when it's said Queen fans wanted Brian Roger and John to die with Freddie. Tell me what is worse to post on a Queen board. Very eye opening what you are offended by and not.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Missed your post earlier so replying now. As long as numbers are trying to be fudged, I will "go on" @boutique it. First off, it's unfair. Secondly, it doesn't help AL much if at all. It's done because some of his fans want AL to tour? I don't think so, it's to try to keep his name out there. If they want to AL to tour, fudging numbers isn't the way to do it. Plus, he has been busy touring with Brian and Roger for years now, more than his solo shows. I'd be very successful if he tours for Velvet. I'm sure if I tried to fudge Elton John's numbers to boost his music, it would be called unfair, and rightly so. I don't think his numbers will get a big boost after Saturday after the fans streaming.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well, you are offended by what I say. Why? I think it's much more insulting when some people think AL is the only reason Queen is so popular these days, all out offensive when it's said Queen fans wanted Brian Roger and John to die with Freddie. Tell me what is worse to post on a Queen board. Very eye opening what you are offended by and not.

Saying riding coat tails is by definition offensive period. I've never said AL is the only reason Queen is so popular but there's no question them touring for the last seven years has helped their popularity, new fans discovering them etc but the movie has had a massive impact and brought tons of new fans and new interest in them as a band and increased their music sales. I've never said Queen fans wanted Roger & Brian to die with Freddie and if you read the original post by SC that's not what was said, context and inference is everything when reading a post. I'm not responsible for what others post and neither is Adam - my whole point is why piss on everything he does because of a few fans who think the sun rises and sets with him? Even if those comments were said and meant as you've taken them they still don't warrant calling Adam for them.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I bumped SweetCaroline's post for you, rockchic. In case you do t notice it, here is what she stated...her own words. Context my ass, because she's made it clear what she thinks about Queen fans. "Queen fans wanted Queen's music and Brian, Roger and John to all die the die the day Freddie died. They can't stand the show has gone on! Unbelievable!"

Iron Butterfly wrote: Queen's music was always being sold, played etc. I think the movie helped geto more Queen new fans way more than Q+AL did. Context my ass. You go read what she posted. Gee, another one who defends what she does, even at her worst. Go figure. Yet, my saying AL rides on coattails is somehow much worse, go figure. I don't know what AL would think of some of what he fans say and do. Trying to fudge numbers is wrong, and so is delving in his personal life. Somone that posts here picture of a young AL was linked to days ago, just because someone held it as an example that AL played the gutair.

Holly2003 wrote: The Glambert cosa nostra in full flow. Black is white, up is down, war is peace etc.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I bumped SweetCaroline's post for you, rockchic. In case you do t notice it, here is what she stated...her own words. Context my ass, because she's made it clear what she thinks about Queen fans. "Queen fans wanted Queen's music and Brian, Roger and John to all die the die the day Freddie died. They can't stand the show has gone on! Unbelievable!"

I don't 100% know what she meant since I'm not her but my inference of the comment was "Queen fans wanted their music and Brian, Roger and John to die" meaning to retire, stop, go away and not be a band anymore not die as in literally die (be dead). If that's what she meant then fair enough I'll stand corrected but that's not how I read the comment - like I said context and inference.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Queen's music was always being sold, played etc. I think the movie helped geto more Queen new fans way more than Q+AL did. Context my ass. You go read what she posted. Gee, another one who defends what she does, even at her worst. Go figure. Yet, my saying AL rides on coattails is somehow much worse, go figure. I don't know what AL would think of some of what he fans say and do. Trying to fudge numbers is wrong, and so is delving in his personal life. Somone that posts here picture of a young AL was linked to days ago, just because someone held it as an example that AL played the gutair.

I'm not defending her I'm saying most of what she posts seems to me to be retaliation for the comments about Adam and IMO taking that out on Adam is childish, it's not his fault what his fans post even if she did mean what you thought. I'd say he'd probably be horified by some of the comments but so would most artists including Freddie if he were here and saw some of the comments Queen fans post on facebook etc, par for the course as a public figure. I don't consider posting that pic of him as a kid as delving into his personal life but it was a pointless post IMO.

Iron Butterfly wrote: It's right there what she posted, word for word. Of course, she will come back to thank you and say that's exactly what she meant, which is bullshit. She assumed Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die with Freddie, the very same day even. Context again, my ass. No matter what she does, she will be defended it seems by AL fans and the Glamberts on Queen boards. Something else that she had posted before she doesn't like what some say about AL, context, inference...such bullshit. She was wrong to say that, why is that so hard to admit?

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ What do you call cosmicc? No mafia if the QAL part of the site was left for QAL fans instead of a constant bitchfest about Adam by people who have no interest in him other than to troll.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Tit for tat, because she can't get her own way. How mature. I'm not ta,ingredients anything out on Adam, not sure where you get that from. My saying he's riding on coattails, is nothing new, I've been giving that view for years. Posting links to a flight tracker while he was travelling the plane, linking to pics of his mother getting married , putting it out there that he ended a relationship, pic of AL as a young kid and AL with a very young kid, is delving into his personal life, and that's the things SweetCaroline has done on Queen boards. It isn't healthy for one thing to even do it on an an AL board, let alone a Queen board. Pointless? It's creepy.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: It's right there what she posted, word for word. Of course, she will come back to thank you and say that's exactly what she meant, which is bullshit. She assumed Queen fans wanted Brian, Roger and John to die with Freddie, the very same day even. Context again, my ass. No matter what she does, she will be defended it seems by AL fans and the Glamberts on Queen boards. Something else that she had posted before she doesn't like what some say about AL, context, inference...such bullshit. She was wrong to say that, why is that so hard to admit?

If that's what she meant then why wouldn't she come back and admit that's exactly what she meant? Forums and social media are full of people who don't get nuance and the real meaning behind a comment because it's hard to work out what people mean without context of verbal and facial clues, not everything is literal. Unless she clarifies what she meant I guess we'll never know for sure.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy has always had reading comprehension problems. Of course I didn’t want Freddie’s band mates to die with him. I was obviously being facetious or better yet angry that so-called diehard Queen fans think Brian and Roger should stop performing because they are the only two left who still want to continue. Icy needs another hobby! Antagonizing Queen/Adam fans has gone way past the expiration date! Icy, read a copy of “War and Peace!” That should keep you busy for awhile and it should be right in your wheel house because all you like to do is fight with everyone!

SweetCaroline wrote: More pics/videos from the James Corden Show: link

Jazz+ wrote: Freddie is a pile of dog poo and he aint that great without Queen keeping him a float.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy has always had reading comprehension problems. Of course I didn’t want Freddie’s band mates to die with him. I was obviously being facetious or better yet angry that so-called diehard Queen fans think Brian and Roger should stop performing because they are the only two left who still want to continue. Icy needs another hobby! Antagonizing Queen/Adam fans has gone way past the expiration date! Icy, read a copy of “War and Peace!” That should keep you busy for awhile and it should be right in your wheel house because all you like to do is fight with everyone!

SweetCaroline wrote: More pics/videos from the James Corden Show: link

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I bumped SweetCaroline's post for you, rockchic. In case you do t notice it, here is what she stated...her own words. Context my ass, because she's made it clear what she thinks about Queen fans. "Queen fans wanted Queen's music and Brian, Roger and John to all die the die the day Freddie died. They can't stand the show has gone on! Unbelievable!"

I don't 100% know what she meant since I'm not her but my inference of the comment was "Queen fans wanted their music and Brian, Roger and John to die" meaning to retire, stop, go away and not be a band anymore not die as in literally die (be dead). If that's what she meant then fair enough I'll stand corrected but that's not how I read the comment - like I said context and inference.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: If I didn't know better, I would have thought I posted about AL looking like a tranny, or posted that someone was like Hitler and the Gestapo. Or to use a critically ill parent to have a go at someone for assumpotions about mental health. Funny, I don't remember ever doing any of that. It all comes down that I say AL is riding on coattails , which is pretty tame compared to other things. Oh well, at least I know something else now. Things I've found out recently, SweetCaroline spams to annoy and I'm hated pretty much because I say AL is riding on coattails. Eye opening eh.

If you can't see how saying Adam is riding coat tails is offensive then I don't know what to tell you, the very definition of the term is offensive.

Saint Jiub wrote: The main reason AL receives any publicity is because of his touring with Queen+. It ain't his solo career Hence, AL is riding Queen's coattails ... ... and yet you don't object to runner and jazz calling AL a tranny.

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: The main reason AL receives any publicity is because of his touring with Queen+. It ain't his solo career Hence, AL is riding Queen's coattails ... ... and yet you don't object to runner and jazz calling AL a tranny.

I do but I long since gave up with those two since they hate the guy with a passion and deliberately call him every name they can think of, it's pretty obvious how they feel and there's no instance where they've ever said a nice thing about him at all. I have more of a problem with the one's who double talk, feigning interest in what he's up to just to put him down in the next post. I don't agree about the publicity, Adam has always been a media fave regardless of how successful his music might or might not be, he's always been talked about in his own right and a lot of publicity isn't Queen related, he's a nice guy, great interview and talented singer, that's enough to get recognition regardless of whether he's top of the charts or not. Singing with Bri & Roger has undoubtedly meant he's been steadily working and earning for the last few years but there's no way to know what he'd have been doing if he'd never teamed up with them, my guess is if his music career (which he'd have obviously devoted a lot more time to) hadn't taken off any more than it has now he'd have ended up doing something on TV - either judging shows like X Factor et al or a presenting job.

SweetCaroline wrote: Well I guess it’s not going to be “O Holy Night” but Adam has a Christmas song, “Please Come Home For Christmas.” link

SweetCaroline wrote: Well I guess it’s not going to be “O Holy Night” but Adam has a Christmas song, “Please Come Home For Christmas.” link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ What do you call cosmicc? No mafia if the QAL part of the site was left for QAL fans instead of a constant bitchfest about Adam by people who have no interest in him other than to troll.

Why should this part of the board be left only for AL and Q+AL fans? Everyone is allowed pretty much to say what they want. If you or any other AL fans and Glamberts want a love in only, place to gush, swoon, dig into his life, gossip about his life, there's Adamtopia for that. Queen boards are a bit more realistic.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Double talk, and feigning interest, say, well thanks for proving something here. I don't think there is an AL fan or Glambert I've come across, who is unable to accept nothing but praise for the guy. Is everything the guy does supposed to fawned over? Sorry, not sorry, I don't do things like that, never have, never will, about anyone. But hey, of course it's double talk and feigning interest according to you. Like I say, if you or anyone else here wants praise only for AL , go to Adamtopia. I think it's likely if Brian and Roger never toured with AL, it's unlikely he'd have all the chances he has had these last few years. I never could see him singing at the Oscars for example. Damn sure he would not have been able to fill out the venues Q+AL has with his solo music. Do you think he would have had most of the opportunities he has had if not for Queen, Brian and Roger? I don't.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Well I guess it’s not going to be “O Holy Night” but Adam has a Christmas song, “Please Come Home For Christmas.” link

Another cover song. Who would have expected that *sarcasm*.

SweetCaroline wrote: She is all hung up on cover songs but doesn’t mind the singers who put out whole albums of cover songs to boost their sales. Adam could have done that, too, but chose not to! Adam’s covers don’t sound like covers because he puts his own original touch on them and they are never boring! F*ck off, icy! Try to post something original for a change instead of always “covering” ME!!!!!

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Well I guess it’s not going to be “O Holy Night” but Adam has a Christmas song, “Please Come Home For Christmas.” link

Another cover song. Who would have expected that *sarcasm*.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah Adam and tons of others have covered that song including Bon Jovi and the Eagles, if it's ok for them why not Adam.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Double talk, and feigning interest, say, well thanks for proving something here. I don't think there is an AL fan or Glambert I've come across, who is unable to accept nothing but praise for the guy. Is everything the guy does supposed to fawned over? Sorry, not sorry, I don't do things like that, never have, never will, about anyone. But hey, of course it's double talk and feigning interest according to you. Like I say, if you or anyone else here wants praise only for AL , go to Adamtopia. I think it's likely if Brian and Roger never toured with AL, it's unlikely he'd have all the chances he has had these last few years. I never could see him singing at the Oscars for example. Damn sure he would not have been able to fill out the venues Q+AL has with his solo music. Do you think he would have had most of the opportunities he has had if not for Queen, Brian and Roger? I don't.

I don't care who likes him or his music and who doesn't but when they have to derail every thread by repeating it over and over ad nauseam it's pathetic and pointless. If you read what I said I meant different opportunities, no one opened the Oscars before QAL so likely no he wouldn't and as for filling the same venues as QAL probably not but I don't see that matters, touring for the fans who want to see him matters not the size of the venue, I saw Foreigner last year in the much smaller Manchester Apollo, brilliant show and I wasn't sat there thinking wow wonder why they can't fill the arena. Adam gets asked to do lots of things unrelated to Queen and I think that would have happened regardless of him teaming up with them or not.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ What do you call cosmicc? No mafia if the QAL part of the site was left for QAL fans instead of a constant bitchfest about Adam by people who have no interest in him other than to troll.

Why should this part of the board be left only for AL and Q+AL fans? Everyone is allowed pretty much to say what they want. If you or any other AL fans and Glamberts want a love in only, place to gush, swoon, dig into his life, gossip about his life, there's Adamtopia for that. Queen boards are a bit more realistic.

Really? You have to ask that? Ok, here's the scenario - On the serious Queen part of the board how would it be if every single time anyone posted something Queen related or about Freddie I and one or two others completely derailed the conversation, calling Freddie or any of the others, going on about their lack of solo success compared with Queen, picking apart unrelated shows they did or appearances like SNL and posting links and basically making it impossible for the conversation to flow and just turned it into a bitchfest? Would you think that fair game and a good way to behave on the thread? Maybe I'll go ahead and see how much people take before they get thoroughly pissed off. That's exactly what happens on here day after day but because it's the QAL part and a few think it shouldn't even be here they see nothing wrong with doing exactly that. Yes anyone can post anything they want anywhere on here since it's unmoderated but usually adults have some level of appropriateness and don't wilfully want to fuck things up for others, well at least you'd hope, but there's a few who clearly just want to spoil things for others because they can. If everyone decided to do that on the board it would end up being unusable - but then that's the whole point in this part of the forum isn't it, make it unuseable so Adam's fans will fuck off.

SweetCaroline wrote: That’s because you ARE like Hitler and Trump and all of the other narcissistic bullies in the world who have a low self image and have to pick on other people to be able to stand themselves! Get on a plane! Go to London! Go to Australia! Go anywhere to get away from yourself! And ME!

Iron Butterfly wrote: You are unaware of SweetCaroline has done and still does then. Next time she repeats herself, I wonder if you would have something to say about that. Doubtful. I also doubt AL would have been asked to judge or have some of the TV spots he has been doing if not for Brian and Roger, and Queen. He'd be nowhere near having what he does if not for them.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: ^^^ What do you call cosmicc? No mafia if the QAL part of the site was left for QAL fans instead of a constant bitchfest about Adam by people who have no interest in him other than to troll.

Why should this part of the board be left only for AL and Q+AL fans? Everyone is allowed pretty much to say what they want. If you or any other AL fans and Glamberts want a love in only, place to gush, swoon, dig into his life, gossip about his life, there's Adamtopia for that. Queen boards are a bit more realistic.

Really? You have to ask that? Ok, here's the scenario - On the serious Queen part of the board how would it be if every single time anyone posted something Queen related or about Freddie I and one or two others completely derailed the conversation, calling Freddie or any of the others, going on about their lack of solo success compared with Queen, picking apart unrelated shows they did or appearances like SNL and posting links and basically making it impossible for the conversation to flow and just turned it into a bitchfest? Would you think that fair game and a good way to behave on the thread? Maybe I'll go ahead and see how much people take before they get thoroughly pissed off. That's exactly what happens on here day after day but because it's the QAL part and a few think it shouldn't even be here they see nothing wrong with doing exactly that. Yes anyone can post anything they want anywhere on here since it's unmoderated but usually adults have some level of appropriateness and don't wilfully want to fuck things up for others, well at least you'd hope, but there's a few who clearly just want to spoil things for others because they can. If everyone decided to do that on the board it would end up being unusable - but then that's the whole point in this part of the forum isn't it, make it unuseable so Adam's fans will fuck off.

Got to adamtopia since you want/need this subforum forum just for AL and Q+AL fans. Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Saying AL is riding on coattails is offensive to you somehow, but you have nothing to say when SweetCaroline had posted that I'm like Hitler and the Gestapo. Crickets then, I wonder why. She told me to f*ck off above, but I guess there wI'll be crickets about that too, if not a defense of her. Irony huh.

Iron Butterfly wrote: -------- I don't care about Bon Jovi or the Eagles covering it, I wasn't even discussing them. I was talking about AL, no one else. But do deflect on other artists. For the record I think the former cover is one of the worst covers I've ever heard.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: You are unaware of SweetCaroline has done and still does then. Next time she repeats herself, I wonder if you would have something to say about that. Doubtful. I also doubt AL would have been asked to judge or have some of the TV spots he has been doing if not for Brian and Roger, and Queen. He'd be nowhere near having what he does if not for them.

You and SC repeat endless arguments with each other on here, I don't get involved in that but I'm talking about repeating the same complaints about Adam like him doing covers etc, why's it matter what he does to people who aren't interested in him and why do they have to stop any conversation about what he does between fans who actually do like him? Adam was asked to do plenty of things before he teamed up with B & R and lots of the stuff has nothing to do with them, no idea why some people think he had no career before the collab or wouldn't be asked to do anything, not everything is about Queen, he does both and that's how the media treat him.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s Christmas song is very bluesy! That guy does it all — rock, pop, r&b, funk, reggae, EDM, opera, country, musical theater! Wish I could be in Pittsburgh tonight!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s Christmas song is very bluesy! That guy does it all — rock, pop, r&b, funk, reggae, EDM, opera, country, musical theater! Wish I could be in Pittsburgh tonight!

Cover songs doesn't mean he can do it all. Has he tried to write or even sing an original country song, opera song? No, he hasn't. So he doesn't do it all. Even his original music isn't that original.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I pointed out AL has sang another cover song. I get told to f*ck off for that. Not rational. See for yourself how she rages and tries to excuse what she says. What was Lambert asked to do before Brian and Roger? Anything specific? I still say the lines are blurred with his solo music and Q+AL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I pointed out AL has sang another cover song. I get told to f*ck off for that. Not rational. See for yourself how she rages and tries to excuse what she says. What was Lambert asked to do before Brian and Roger? Anything specific? I still say the lines are blurred with his solo music and Q+AL.

He's done various things - hosted the Diva's, presented awards, was a mentor on Idol, lots of interviews, various tv guest appearances like Glee, Pretty Little Liars and his documentary, he had media interest from day one and that hasn't changed, he'd have that regardless of Queen.

Iron Butterfly wrote: No, I don't think he'd have it regardless of Brian and Roger. And once that's over, it's going to even tougher than it is now for him. The Queen legacy, Brian and Roger did much to try to "help" him...it didn't get his music to #1, or sell millions. I think the guy is known and will be known as a cover singer, with one hit of his own.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: No, I don't think he'd have it regardless of Brian and Roger. And once that's over, it's going to even tougher than it is now for him. The Queen legacy, Brian and Roger did much to try to "help" him...it didn't get his music to #1, or sell millions. I think the guy is known and will be known as a cover singer, with one hit of his own.

And you seriously wonder why his fans get pissed off? The guy doesn't get asked to do all the things he does because of B & R, some things are Queen related but lots aren't and you seem to have completely ignored all the stuff I posted about, how was all that because of B & R when it was before he started touring with them? He won't have a problem when he stops touring because he's liked for himself, not becuase of touring with them. Pride of Britain awards, presenting at GLAAD, performing at GLAAD, headlining Gay Pride, Work with the Trevor Project, his song used in the movie Bridegroom, performing at Trevor Live Gala, receiving the music icon award, performing at point foundation honors, performing at GLAAD spirit day, performing at project angel food, playmobil movie, rocky horror pic show, Australian X Factor etc etc, how are any of those B & R related?

Iron Butterfly wrote: If his fans get pissed off at me, we'll that's hardly a surprise ;-). I don't think he would have all that you mention if not forBrian and Roger. I'm not saying Brian and Roger called them up to ask, but it's true, it's mainly what got him press these last few years. Angel Food, Rocky Horror, paying tribute to Cher, Elvis, none of that was his original music. See, what I mean? What song was used in Bridegroom?

MisterCosmicc wrote: It’s too bad Adam’s music is dog crap. Maybe his fans should tell him he can make music better than that.

Saint Jiub wrote: Does Adamtopia have separate section to discuss Freddie?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Does Adamtopia have separate section to discuss Freddie?

Not really, there was a poster who kept a Queen/solo thread going, but I haven't seen it updated in ages. The poster who started it and kept it going is pretty awesome actually.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Does Adamtopia have separate section to discuss Freddie?

Not really, there was a poster who kept a Queen/solo thread going, but I haven't seen it updated in ages. The poster who started it and kept it going is pretty awesome actually.

Saint Jiub wrote: link

Brancelli wrote: Haven’t listened to any of his new stuff, but I’ve always thought “Runnin” was pretty good.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Of course, he manages to fit in a Queen cover. Not really surprising, but that is what I mean when lines are blurred. Why did he pick that one, I wonder.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Does Adamtopia have separate section to discuss Freddie?

Not really, there was a poster who kept a Queen/solo thread going, but I haven't seen it updated in ages. The poster who started it and kept it going is pretty awesome actually.

Was the Queen thread mostly spam links? Did the topic have a lot of empty vacuous comments about how collossal, monumental and stupendous Queen was with John Bogie?

rockchic65 wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Haven’t listened to any of his new stuff, but I’ve always thought “Runnin” was pretty good.

Closer To You and Feel Something are my faves from his new stuff and really like Stranger You Are though it's mostly for the beat - funky and catchy. Loved Runnin, should have been a single IMO along with Chokehold.

SweetCaroline wrote: He sings Trespassing and AOBTD as a medley because they have similar beats. I forgot to mention he did Trespassing and then into AOBTD. OMG, not a Queen cover! How dare he!

Saint Jiub wrote: link "It's not Queen anymore. They're out performing what I see as a cabaret show."

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Of course, he manages to fit in a Queen cover. Not really surprising, but that is what I mean when lines are blurred. Why did he pick that one, I wonder.

One Queen song out of the entire set and lines are blurred? Foo's do Under Pressure every set, doubt anyone thinks anything about that, they love Queen and love singing that song, for them it's that simple and AOBTD is Adam's favourite, he's done it in his solo sets since 2012.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Of course, he manages to fit in a Queen cover. Not really surprising, but that is what I mean when lines are blurred. Why did he pick that one, I wonder.

One Queen song out of the entire set and lines are blurred? Foo's do Under Pressure every set, doubt anyone thinks anything about that, they love Queen and love singing that song, for them it's that simple and AOBTD is Adam's favourite, he's done it in his solo sets since 2012.

I'm not talking about the Foo Fighters. Yea, I know how often AL has covered it in his solo shows. I wish he would switch it up again. I think CLTCL would have been better suited for it.

Brancelli wrote: I like this guy’s analysis, great perspective on Adam’s mastery of vowel: link

Brancelli wrote: This is really good too. Adam’s skill is not subjective. link

snifflese wrote: Jazz sucks!!

Jazz+ wrote: Yes please Adam's only two fans fuck off please you are spoiling what use to be the home of Queen. No cold callers or Adam freaks. Jazz has spoken Jazz has analysed and jazz has noted you Lambert fans need musical psychotherapy.

snifflese wrote: Why would I have respect for folks who have neither respect for themselves nor for other posters? People whom I respect do not talk the way the Queen fans on this board do. The only people I am not speaking of are Brancelli, RC and SC. The rest of you know who you are and it is an appalling insight into people who have no social boundaries whatsoever.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Jazz sucks!!

Jazz is a great album. You should have more respect.

Iron Butterfly wrote: creative-storys.fandom.com/de/wiki/Glambert_Code

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: creative-storys.fandom.com/de/wiki/Glambert_Code

Not sure what that's supposed to prove?

Iron Butterfly wrote: Translate it to English, a day it's pretty obvious there is a Glambert code ;-)

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Translate it to English, a day it's pretty obvious there is a Glambert code ;-)

I did but when it says write glambert everywhere like on your schoolbook it's pretty obvious the age of the writer and is just some childish nonsense.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Some of AL's fans do what is in there though. Fitting him in anywhere even if he doesn't fit in a topic, we'll that's SweetCaroline all over it. Defending AL, for anything and everything pretty much, is another thing some Glamberts do. I pointed out he sang a cover song yesterday and I got told to f off, that's not a defense, just someone losing their shit. That piece is so eye opening, it makes it seem very cultish.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Some of AL's fans do what is in there though. Fitting him in anywhere even if he doesn't fit in a topic, we'll that's SweetCaroline all over it. Defending AL, for anything and everything pretty much, is another thing some Glamberts do. I pointed out he sang a cover song yesterday and I got told to f off, that's not a defense, just someone losing their shit. That piece is so eye opening, it makes it seem very cultish.

And yet you don't see the same in some Freddie fanatics like Jazz for eg and there's plenty more like him out there on social media - it's not exclusive to Adam's fans all artists have over zealous fans.

snifflese wrote: Just like you people with Freddie and the Freddie cult. The most eye opening thing to me is that Freddie fans are out and out nasty, whereas most of the Adam and QAL fans never stoop to your depths. They seem to be much nicer people. Don't mention SC to me again, because if you didn't do what you do best, Icy, she would never answer the way she does. You bring out that behavior. I don't care about the spam. That is what fans do and it doesn't bother me. I either look at it or scroll. We are not just the Queen board here. I wouldn't post those things necessarily, but it isn't your business to tell people what they need to be doing. If Runner is allowed on here, then SC can spam. You need to monitor yourself. No one on here goes off on the tirades that you do, ad nauseam. You repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat past grievances. Get over it. Then you say the most egregious things and you wonder why people take offense. You are majorly offensive and socially awkward if you don't see why the things you say are so off putting and really annoy anyone who likes Adam and QAL. Everything the poor man does has some problem according to you. It gets really trying at times and then you are so in everyone's face. I bet yelling at people here is the high point of your day and that is really sad.

snifflese wrote: You need to go to the Queen threads as none of the people who like Adam or QAL go over there and wreak havoc. You just get your jollies being mean and nasty which isn't the point of this thread. But that is all it can ever be with you nasty people. I have never understood why some people just want to ruin something for everybody else and that is your only purpose here. I don't have any Adam fetishes, you are totally nuts. I would say you must, otherwise you wouldn't be on here all the time.

snifflese wrote: Obviously you can't read, as I don't protect Adam. This really doesn't have much to do with Adam other than I can't understand why people who have such a low opinion of him are interested in this thread. That is a really puzzler to me. I love Adam's voice, he is my favorite singer of all time, BUT there are many things I disagree with regarding his own music and many of his decisions. You certainly can't say I worship at the altar of Adam, because I don't. I have, however, spend many years in schools, middle and high school and seen plenty of kids that are just like "You People"" and they are always stirring the pot, bullying and just unpleasant people. This place reminds me very much of the middle school, you aren't even worthy of high school. As far as defending what Caroline says, what do you expect her to say after you taunt her and make fun of her and latch onto everything she says? Other than her spats with you, she seems to forgive and forget and go on her merry way. However, there is always a breaking point and that is you. You try to beat her oblivion with your constant haranguing and then you have the nerve to complain about what she says. I am not buying it, Icy. P S. Both Queen boards have Adam/QAL threads and she can mention him there, Icy!! I have no idea about Elton, but I have seen plenty of things over at QOL where another artist is brought into the mix and you never have a problem with that. Not buying that either. You bring nothing to the mix other than negativity. You never have an interesting point to make and all you want to do is fight with people If you don't like how others respond to you, maybe you should change how you post. Anything can be said in a nicer way and some things just don't need to be said at all.

MisterCosmicc wrote: And ‘I Dream Of Christmas’, an Anita Dobson track, she tried to make about Adam as well.

SweetCaroline wrote: Here you go, chew on this for awhile: “10 Years ago today @AdamLambert released his debut album #ForYourEntertainment! It now has 140,283,681 streams on Spotify! #HappyAnniversary #10YearsForYourEntertainment (23 November 2009) #NowPlaying open.spotify.com/album/70zpmszG…”

snifflese wrote: IT IS QAL, it is QAL, It is QAL here!! This is not the Queen part of the board, it is QAL. If you folks could get that through your thick skuils, there wouldn't be such a problem here! Just because your whole world revolves around Freddie, does not mean that everyone's does. I couldn't have told you today was the anniversary of the album. I guess that makes me a bad Adam fan. Liking someone's music doesn't mean you have to know every date and detail of their life. You simply enjoy their music, whether written by them or not. I could care less. I either like the song and the way it was sung or I don't.

SweetCaroline wrote: I posted about Adam’s album on November 23rd my time. Because it posted on November 24th Greenwich Time doesn’t mean I wasn’t aware of what happened on that date 28 years ago. So mind your own business you nasty woman and stay out of mine! Maybe it was another full circle moment that Adam’s first album came out so close to the 18th anniversary of Freddie’s passing. Do you have a life outside of this forum? I have visitors from Florida this week who are on Thanksgiving vacation. So I’m busy and don’t have time to fight with you! Why don’t you try some positive thinking for a change? Go to a flower shop and buy yourself some roses or go outside and make an angel in the snow if you have snow. I really can’t stand your constant negativity. It is so destructive and depressing and does not belong in this or any forum. It is beyond disgusting!

SweetCaroline wrote: Nice comprehensive article about Freddie on the anniversary of his passing: link

snifflese wrote: Icy, there probably aren't going to be any articles anymore about Freddie w/o mention of QAL unless it is strictly a biography but even there, they will probably mention the present. I would think pretty much all of them will mention Brian and Roger still playing and state what is going on with them now and who is singing for them in QAL. Most people don't live in the past and cling quite so closely to those memories.

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam is a moron. He has no sense of musical direction. Poor management, but he’s too stupid to realize it. He can’t write music, he can’t play a fucking instrument. He’s a fucking chart failure. He became famous on American Idol. The reason he’s touring with Brian and Roger is because they don’t want to sit at home and twiddle their fucking thumbs, they need something to do. Hardly anyone likes Adam anymore, his own followers don’t buy his disposable, shitty music. He made hits previously, but not now. Why? He’s a has-been. Adam is like a 14 year old girl posting stupid, self-worshipping selfie videos on Instagram. He’s not made any ground breaking achievements in his lifetime. No one knows his music aside from a select few. Like I said, when people are listening to Freddie as the world ends, Adam and his music will be long forgotten... not even a fucking memory. Talentless trash, I hope he reads that.

snifflese wrote: IT IS QAL, it is QAL, It is QAL here!! This is not the Queen part of the board, it is QAL. If you folks could get that through your thick skuils, there wouldn't be such a problem here! Just because your whole world revolves around Freddie, does not mean that everyone's does. I couldn't have told you today was the anniversary of the album. I guess that makes me a bad Adam fan. Liking someone's music doesn't mean you have to know every date and detail of their life. You simply enjoy their music, whether written by them or not. I could care less. I either like the song and the way it was sung or I don't.

Iron Butterfly wrote: One Glambert so far posted about the 24th and Freddie, and only after I pointed to her it out what the day was about.

snifflese wrote: Excuse me, but both of you are morons. Of course Adam wouldn't be mentioned if he wasn't singing with QAL. But he is and he will be mentioned as more than a footnote, since it is already 7 years!!! and your not being able to handle that fact does not change the reality of it. There are lots of replacements in bands for any number of reasons and normal people don't call it riding on the band's legacy and living in the past. Just about every old famous band ( and new bands!) has a new member or two and they aren't all living in the past. They are seizing the moment and living their lives to the fullest, doing what they love. You two have a MAJOR problem and it is not me living in a fantasy world. A shrink would have a field day with you two. You people are the weirdest people evah'!! If that is what being a diehard Queen fan does to you, thanks goodness most people aren't!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam isn’t a member of Queen, he has no stake in Queen Productions. Touring isn’t ground breaking. That’s expected and normal. Everyone tours. Touring is not what makes history books. Singing the same songs over and over again isn’t a ground breaking achievement. Adam is disposable and he sings songs that were made famous by Freddie. Queen don’t need Adam, or his fans.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: One Glambert so far posted about the 24th and Freddie, and only after I pointed to her it out what the day was about.

Maybe some people don't need to post about it to acknowledge it, what difference is making a comment gonna do, change history maybe? We don't all work the same way, we acknowledge things the way we choose.

Saint Jiub wrote: Sniffy - when you click on the "Queen + Adam Lambert" please note the second line and get it through your thick skull: "Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here" It is the Q + AL section, where one discusses the collaboration but does not discuss AL's solo stuff.

snifflese wrote: IT IS QAL, it is QAL, It is QAL here!! This is not the Queen part of the board, it is QAL. If you folks could get that through your thick skuils, there wouldn't be such a problem here! Just because your whole world revolves around Freddie, does not mean that everyone's does. I couldn't have told you today was the anniversary of the album. I guess that makes me a bad Adam fan. Liking someone's music doesn't mean you have to know every date and detail of their life. You simply enjoy their music, whether written by them or not. I could care less. I either like the song and the way it was sung or I don't.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Sure, some do that. I'm doing things that I am not posting about. But it's very telling the two main Glamberts here, one had nothing to say until I pointed out about the date, and the other there is nothing, but had a go at me. Both claim to be Freddie fans, funny enough. Bullshit.

Iron Butterfly wrote: His singing Queen songs, with a solo song every now and then

rockchic65 wrote:

Saint Jiub wrote: Sniffy - when you click on the "Queen + Adam Lambert" please note the second line and get it through your thick skull: "Queen + Adam Lambert Discuss the Queen + Adam Lambert collaboration here" It is the Q + AL section, where one discusses the collaboration but does not discuss AL's solo stuff.

Maybe you could read Cosmicc's insane rambling claptrap and once again point this fact out to him since he's the one who seems obsessed by Adam's solo career - far more than any glambert as it goes.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: His singing Queen songs, with a solo song every now and then

Solo song now and then? What about all the songs he sings of his own at his solo shows - do they not count somehow? He wouldn't be singing lots of solo songs with B & R but there's plenty times he does on his own.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Sure, some do that. I'm doing things that I am not posting about. But it's very telling the two main Glamberts here, one had nothing to say until I pointed out about the date, and the other there is nothing, but had a go at me. Both claim to be Freddie fans, funny enough. Bullshit.

I'm a Queen/Freddie fan but don't need to post about his death in 91 to be a fan, it's not something I do - some do some don't and I really don't think anyone should be made to feel like they should do something just because someone else does it.

Iron Butterfly wrote: When MisterCosmicc posts pics of a young AL and his family, you might have a point. At least MisterCosmicc talks about music, instead of things like AL ended a relationship recently. No one here is as obsessed as SweetCaroline is about Lambert.

Iron Butterfly wrote: It's actually about respect. Someone here can post every frigging thing AL does, but can't leave a word or two about Freddie at this time. That's happened every year, I actually could understand it if someone was busy, or did things their own way, but it's very telling the reaction I got last night when I pointed out the date for today. No, AL's album anniversary is much more important to at least one person here to post about. That's insulting, as well as to say the dates are full circle, which is bullshit.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: When MisterCosmicc posts pics of a young AL and his family, you might have a point. At least MisterCosmicc talks about music, instead of things like AL ended a relationship recently. No one here is as obsessed as SweetCaroline is about Lambert.

No he just goes on and on endlessly about Adam's solo career - at least SC is a fan of Adam so going on about him makes some sense, it makes zero sense when it's someone who has no interest in him.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: It's actually about respect. Someone here can post every frigging thing AL does, but can't leave a word or two about Freddie at this time. That's happened every year, I actually could understand it if someone was busy, or did things their own way, but it's very telling the reaction I got last night when I pointed out the date for today. No, AL's album anniversary is much more important to at least one person here to post about. That's insulting, as well as to say the dates are full circle, which is bullshit.

And as I said we all have our own way of doing things and if SC is more interested in Adam so what, that's her prerogative, this is the QAL section and if someone is more interested in B, R & A than original Queen then so what, that's up to them. I personally find the constant arguing about Adam more disrespectful to Freddie's memory, you'd think the Queen fans who don't like this collab could spend their time talking about Freddie on the 24th instead of arguing about Adam and his solo music or which songs he sings.

Iron Butterfly wrote: She claimed to "love" Freddie. Sorry, bullshit. For years now, she didn't realise or care what the 24th is about. It's pretty obvious. Of course you would find it disrespectful to Freddie's memory. At least some of us Freddie and Queen fans here can manage to leave a comment about Freddie on a day like today. Say what you want about Freddie and Queen fans, at least we can say something and lift a finger to do that much. Glamberts apparently can't. Disrespectful how a couple of Glamberts come here to cry foul about AL, and needed today's date to be pointed out? The very least a person could do here is STFU spamming and bigging up AL for 24 hours, but we can't have that, can we?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: She claimed to "love" Freddie. Sorry, bullshit. For years now, she didn't realise or care what the 24th is about. It's pretty obvious. Of course you would find it disrespectful to Freddie's memory. At least some of us Freddie and Queen fans here can manage to leave a comment about Freddie on a day like today. Say what you want about Freddie and Queen fans, at least we can say something and lift a finger to do that much. Glamberts apparently can't. Disrespectful how a couple of Glamberts come here to cry foul about AL, and needed today's date to be pointed out? The very least a person could do here is STFU spamming and bigging up AL for 24 hours, but we can't have that, can we?

We could have peace on here if the Queen fans who aren't interested in QAL could leave it alone and post about what they are interested in but that seems too much to ask as well. As I said anyone not wanting to post about Freddie shouldn't feel they have to, no one should be forced to feel something - just because people were Queen fans doesn't mean they all still feel the same 28 years later - same in real life, some people never move on from a partners death, they never remarry and spend the rest of their lives in mourning, others remarry and move on, they don't forget but they live in the present - each to their own, no one way to do things.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam isn’t a member of Queen, he has no stake in Queen Productions. Touring isn’t ground breaking. That’s expected and normal. Everyone tours. Touring is not what makes history books. Singing the same songs over and over again isn’t a ground breaking achievement. Adam is disposable and he sings songs that were made famous by Freddie. Queen don’t need Adam, or his fans.

Adam has never said he's a member of Queen and neither have Brian or Roger and they've certainly never said he has a stake in Queen productions, in fact I've never seen anyone say that so your point is? Touring is enjoying life and giving the fans what they want - doesn't have to be groundbreaking, people do things for enjoyment - you should try it sometime. Adam isn't the least disposable - more utter drivel. Yes he sings songs (Queen) made famous, Freddie was one part of Queen - seems you can't get that distinction in your head. Queen (B, R, F, J) don't need Adam but B & R do to tour and they need the fans to make a tour successful - again you can't get the distinction in your head - your problem not ours.

MisterCosmicc wrote: How about you read what I was responding to before making an idiotic comment

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: How about you read what I was responding to before making an idiotic comment

Nothing you're responding to makes what you post any more valid it's just spewing bile at Adam for whatever diss you perceive someone's done against Freddie - or maybe for no reason at all who knows.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: She claimed to "love" Freddie. Sorry, bullshit. For years now, she didn't realise or care what the 24th is about. It's pretty obvious. Of course you would find it disrespectful to Freddie's memory. At least some of us Freddie and Queen fans here can manage to leave a comment about Freddie on a day like today. Say what you want about Freddie and Queen fans, at least we can say something and lift a finger to do that much. Glamberts apparently can't. Disrespectful how a couple of Glamberts come here to cry foul about AL, and needed today's date to be pointed out? The very least a person could do here is STFU spamming and bigging up AL for 24 hours, but we can't have that, can we?

We could have peace on here if the Queen fans who aren't interested in QAL could leave it alone and post about what they are interested in but that seems too much to ask as well. As I said anyone not wanting to post about Freddie shouldn't feel they have to, no one should be forced to feel something - just because people were Queen fans doesn't mean they all still feel the same 28 years later - same in real life, some people never move on from a partners death, they never remarry and spend the rest of their lives in mourning, others remarry and move on, they don't forget but they live in the present - each to their own, no one way to do things.

Saint Jiub wrote: SC fails on all four of the above QZ guidelines

snifflese wrote: I guess you folks are very different from me and most of the people I know. I doubt that many recognize the significance of the date you keep talking about. Other than the deaths of my parents I have no idea of any others and really it doesn't matter to me. If someone was important, I have their memories and I don't need a special date and I think most people are like that As to Freddie, I doubt most people in the world are thinking about that either. I doubt many know when you look at the population of the world. I also doubt people at the end of the world are playing Freddie's music and thinking of Freddie. That sounds really wacko to me. People will be thinking of their loved ones and what is about to happen, not Freddie. You two need some outside interests to balance out this massive Freddie fixation like he is some kind of god that fixes everyone's woes and get them through the tough times. You talk about SC and her Adam obsession, you two and a few others on here take it to the next level. Icy knows everything going on with Adam on Atop and QOL and here. She must spend her whole day trolling Adam and his goings on and then she says SC is fixated. Really!! I guess it takes one to know one. At least SC is full of positivity except when it comes to her great buddy on the Queen boards. Icy seems be full of hate and vitriol to everyone except the other trolls on here who want to ruin this thread and would love to see QAL go away. You are entitled to your opinion but I don't know why it has to be in this thread. Go find some like minded fellows on the other Queen threads and just go for it.

snifflese wrote: I doubt many know when you look at the population of the world. I also doubt people at the end of the world are playing Freddie's music and thinking of Freddie.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: It's actually about respect. Someone here can post every frigging thing AL does, but can't leave a word or two about Freddie at this time. That's happened every year, I actually could understand it if someone was busy, or did things their own way, but it's very telling the reaction I got last night when I pointed out the date for today. No, AL's album anniversary is much more important to at least one person here to post about. That's insulting, as well as to say the dates are full circle, which is bullshit.

And as I said we all have our own way of doing things and if SC is more interested in Adam so what, that's her prerogative, this is the QAL section and if someone is more interested in B, R & A than original Queen then so what, that's up to them. I personally find the constant arguing about Adam more disrespectful to Freddie's memory, you'd think the Queen fans who don't like this collab could spend their time talking about Freddie on the 24th instead of arguing about Adam and his solo music or which songs he sings.

snifflese wrote: Just like you people with Freddie and the Freddie cult. The most eye opening thing to me is that Freddie fans are out and out nasty, whereas most of the Adam and QAL fans never stoop to your depths. They seem to be much nicer people. Don't mention SC to me again, because if you didn't do what you do best, Icy, she would never answer the way she does. You bring out that behavior. I don't care about the spam. That is what fans do and it doesn't bother me. I either look at it or scroll. We are not just the Queen board here. I wouldn't post those things necessarily, but it isn't your business to tell people what they need to be doing. If Runner is allowed on here, then SC can spam. You need to monitor yourself. No one on here goes off on the tirades that you do, ad nauseam. You repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat past grievances. Get over it. Then you say the most egregious things and you wonder why people take offense. You are majorly offensive and socially awkward if you don't see why the things you say are so off putting and really annoy anyone who likes Adam and QAL. Everything the poor man does has some problem according to you. It gets really trying at times and then you are so in everyone's face. I bet yelling at people here is the high point of your day and that is really sad.

SweetCaroline wrote: Light Up Night in Pittsburgh: link

snifflese wrote: You both are something else and not in a good way! I don't rage and do anything of the sort. The only one on here that rages and seethes and is you, Icy and that is why you think everyone else must be the same. But luckily, they are not. I still think your idea of the end of the world and playing Queen music is ridiculous, but to each his own. I won't be playing any music as that isn't going to help at all. Why would I be jealous that Queen's music is better than Adam's? I have said several times on here that I much prefer Adam singing Queen than his own. Not much jealousy to find there. This idea all of you have about rage and obsession and jealousy just sounds really wacko. Normal people don't think like that! They try to think positively and not find fault with everything. They also ignore that which they are no fond of which is what I really don't get about you people on here.

snifflese wrote: You both are something else and not in a good way! I don't rage and do anything of the sort. The only one on here that rages and seethes and is you, Icy and that is why you think everyone else must be the same. But luckily, they are not. I still think your idea of the end of the world and playing Queen music is ridiculous, but to each his own. I won't be playing any music as that isn't going to help at all. Why would I be jealous that Queen's music is better than Adam's? I have said several times on here that I much prefer Adam singing Queen than his own. Not much jealousy to find there. This idea all of you have about rage and obsession and jealousy just sounds really wacko. Normal people don't think like that! They try to think positively and not find fault with everything. They also ignore that which they are no fond of which is what I really don't get about you people on here.

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, icy thinks she owns Freddie even though she difn’t know he existed until after he died! I was very busy raising kids in the 70’s and 80’s so am happy that I can really appreciate and love the Queen music and see the remaining members of the band as they honor the memory of Freddie and carry on their legacy!

snifflese wrote: Talk about not thinking for oneself! All you do is parrot other people, troll for what they said years ago, agree with the mean crowd and let any Adam fan have it. You haven't had one post in all these years that actually showed some thought or a an interesting idea. Your posts are always accusatory and mean. The only one who is entitled is you since you think the whole world and one's whole life revolves around Freddie, It does not! Mine doesn't revolve around Adam either. People have lives with family, friends, and obligations and that is what their world revolves around, not some long gone singer no matter how ground breaking he was. I don't know one single person in real life who is as dependent as you people on a group, really one person. Music is not the end all and be all of any of the people I know. This place is a cult and not a very healthy one at that. I enjoy QAL. I enjoy Adam, but that is as far as it goes. I don't spend every day thinking about him or playing his music. I haven't listened to a song of his in months. I tune in to see him if he is on TV and that is about it aside from seeing the QAL concert. No one consumes me 24/7. I am too busy with a real life.

SweetCaroline wrote: Musical direction? Again like Freddie, Adam is a chameleon and sings everything. He doesn’t like to be pigeon-holed into one style like some of the others out there!

snifflese wrote: I guess you folks are very different from me and most of the people I know. I doubt that many recognize the significance of the date you keep talking about. Other than the deaths of my parents I have no idea of any others and really it doesn't matter to me. If someone was important, I have their memories and I don't need a special date and I think most people are like that As to Freddie, I doubt most people in the world are thinking about that either. I doubt many know when you look at the population of the world. I also doubt people at the end of the world are playing Freddie's music and thinking of Freddie. That sounds really wacko to me. People will be thinking of their loved ones and what is about to happen, not Freddie. You two need some outside interests to balance out this massive Freddie fixation like he is some kind of god that fixes everyone's woes and get them through the tough times. You talk about SC and her Adam obsession, you two and a few others on here take it to the next level. Icy knows everything going on with Adam on Atop and QOL and here. She must spend her whole day trolling Adam and his goings on and then she says SC is fixated. Really!! I guess it takes one to know one. At least SC is full of positivity except when it comes to her great buddy on the Queen boards. Icy seems be full of hate and vitriol to everyone except the other trolls on here who want to ruin this thread and would love to see QAL go away. You are entitled to your opinion but I don't know why it has to be in this thread. Go find some like minded fellows on the other Queen threads and just go for it.

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: I guess you folks are very different from me and most of the people I know. I doubt that many recognize the significance of the date you keep talking about. Other than the deaths of my parents I have no idea of any others and really it doesn't matter to me. If someone was important, I have their memories and I don't need a special date and I think most people are like that As to Freddie, I doubt most people in the world are thinking about that either. I doubt many know when you look at the population of the world. I also doubt people at the end of the world are playing Freddie's music and thinking of Freddie. That sounds really wacko to me. People will be thinking of their loved ones and what is about to happen, not Freddie. You two need some outside interests to balance out this massive Freddie fixation like he is some kind of god that fixes everyone's woes and get them through the tough times. You talk about SC and her Adam obsession, you two and a few others on here take it to the next level. Icy knows everything going on with Adam on Atop and QOL and here. She must spend her whole day trolling Adam and his goings on and then she says SC is fixated. Really!! I guess it takes one to know one. At least SC is full of positivity except when it comes to her great buddy on the Queen boards. Icy seems be full of hate and vitriol to everyone except the other trolls on here who want to ruin this thread and would love to see QAL go away. You are entitled to your opinion but I don't know why it has to be in this thread. Go find some like minded fellows on the other Queen threads and just go for it.

The whole FB community/Rockmagazines etc were full of remembrance of Freddie (and also Eric Carr from Kiss) you stupid worthless piece of utter shit. Even downgrading Freddie on his death day. You are the saddest cunt ever. THe lowest of the low. A pathetic insult for a human being.

MisterCosmicc wrote: People still buy music. There’s 100 spots on the Billboard Hot 100. Where’s Adam?

snifflese wrote: You people are nut jobs. Icy, you are just so negative and constantly tell people that they are liars and don't believe anything they say. I don't lie, I don't obsess about Adam or QAL. I have been a fan since the 1970's and Brian has been my guy always. I can be a fan w/o being nuts about it. Something you can't understand. I also have read your posts since Idol and they always the same talking about ranting and raving and butt hurt and gloating and lying and the list goes on. Anyone who thinks only of those things has a deep rooted problem. You always side with the really nasties on here, so your true colors always show through no matter how you try to shade it otherwise. And runner you are just the foulest piece of crap ever. I can't imagine anyone talking like you do. You should be ashamed of yourself and you definitely need help. Nobody on here should have to read your crude utterances.

SweetCaroline wrote: Just got back from seeing Frozen II with my sweet grandkids! Saw a preview of Playmobil the Movie with Daniel Radcliffe, Megan Trainor, Adam and others. Emperor Maximus looks interesting! His song is fun!

snifflese wrote: I am not sure when after Idol I started reading on QOL. Maybe it was closer to 2012 when he sang the first time with Queen. But it has been somwhere between 2009-2012 that I started reading on QOL and a bit later on here. You might have had a different name then seems to me, but it was you. I am not sure of the exact date, but It has, however, been a long time and you haven't changed a bit in however many years it has been. That same sarcastic, nasty streak is still there, calling everyone out and worshiping at the altar of Freddie. Don't let anyone get a bit of praise or a good job because it might take something away from Freddie. I doubt he is too worried about that at this point. He seemed like a nice man, and I doubt he would like how you and the other nasties behave on here. He would probably hope that people such as yourself were not fans, as you do him no favors. You lot certainly give Queen and Freddie fans a bad name! ATOP is harmless compared to this place. They are all nice and while rather intrusive, things I never need or want to know, they aren't mean and batshit crazy like this place. I wouldn't be turning up my nose at them if I were you. Nice wins out every day of the week.

snifflese wrote: I thought it was about 10 years, so it was a couple years less. Time flies, not exactly a great big lie. That is what I thought it was, excuse me. Seven plus years is still quite a while and I do think it was before 2012 so you weren't not on there for all three years. Evading the question and I still think you called yourself something different, but similar. Maybe that person was posting then? I would still take people who are on ATOP way before the crude, mean just downright nasty people here. I keep hoping some of you will go away and then maybe others who like QAL could post. I am always positive and hope for the best which means a thread without any of the people who hate it here. By the way most fan boards are just like ATOP, I don't think many are unmoderated like this hell hole where any kind of disrespect and nastiness is applauded. The only one creepy around here is You! I will just leave it there. Old dogs don't change their spots, so no chance any of you will ever be pleasant or willing to discuss something without getting offensive. Stupid me for thinking that could ever happen. Your whole world revolves around Freddie and it is a shame you won't admit that. That is where all of your animus comes from. As I said, I am sure Freddie would not applaud your behavior as he seemed like a man that would never act the way you do.

snifflese wrote: Just stuff it, Icy!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam did a billboard interview. A shame they didn’t mention that his last singles failed to chart.

SweetCaroline wrote: Thanks for tha nice pic of Adam! “Superpower” and “Closer To You” did chart briefly. By the way, I joined QOL in December, 2011 which would be 8 years ago and the anti-Adam crap right after his debut with Brian and Roger in Belfast was going full steam ahead already. I’m pretty sure Icy and the Milkman and FD and YAFF were among the serial offenders right from the start. On another thread, maybe Fried Chicken, Icy had been voted the most annoying person of the year. You’re right, snifflese, a leopard doesn’t change its spots!

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam did a billboard interview. A shame they didn’t mention that his last singles failed to chart.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't billboard an american chart? What about the rest of the world including here in the UK?

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Adam did a billboard interview. A shame they didn’t mention that his last singles failed to chart.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't billboard an american chart? What about the rest of the world including here in the UK?

Yes, the Billboard is the official chart system in the USA. It’s based on physical and digital sales, and streams. Adam didn’t get enough sales or streams to to chart. People aren’t interested in him like back when he was a fresh face on American Idol. The UK has a similar charting system, he failed there as well.

MisterCosmicc wrote: His sales show a severe decline. Digital sales are included in the Hot 100... it includes streams as well. He has a severe decline in sales.

rockchic65 wrote: Superpower was #29 on single sales chart here

rockchic65 wrote: he's doing ok for an indie -

rockchic65 wrote: often the highest charting songs on billboard don't have much in sales but make up for it in streaming

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Superpower was #29 on single sales chart here

According to the Official UK singles chart, Supah PowWah failed to chart. Where the Hell did you get that number from?

rockchic65 wrote: link

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: he's doing ok for an indie -

Not okay for an indie who had three top 10 albums previously. Take Neon Trees for example. Their work sort of mirrors Adam's, not in terms of style, but the amount of albums. Both three, both now indie. They also have a hard time creating a hit being indie, but their streams are 3x as many as Adam's.

rockchic65 wrote: Adam has never had huge numbers of followers and a lot of his followers

rockchic65 wrote: a lot of his followers aren't the type who stream music either

MisterCosmicc wrote: The charts aren’t about popularity. They are about sales and streams. That’s precisely how the overall measurement is done. Yes, people still make money with music. Yes there’s people who still create number one hits and sell millions. Adam, isn’t one of them, but yes, the Billboard Hot 100 (singles) and Billboard 200 (albums) measure sales (physical and digital)... and streams. They measure the overall spectrum. Streaming is included in those numbers, that’s one of the reasons why 18 of Queen’s singles were top 40 hits again after the movie.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: often the highest charting songs on billboard don't have much in sales but make up for it in streaming

And Adam can't even come even close to do that to even hit the 90's. That's terrible for someone who use to have hit albums and singles.

rockchic65 wrote: Just a question - I'm not familiar with Neon Trees but does their singer take huge amounts of time off to front another band by any chance?

rockchic65 wrote: And the backing of a major label.

rockchic65 wrote: But Queen have 11 million followers on Youtube and are legends who've had a career spanning 40 years with 13 albums before Freddie's death and the two after - Adam can hardly be compared to that. Billboard counts US sales, streams etc as far as I know so the numbers in the UK and other places aren't included. He actually did better in the UK this time, maybe all the promo he did and getting played on radio.

rockchic65 wrote: He actually did better in the UK this time

rockchic65 wrote: Billboard counts US sales, streams etc as far as I know so the numbers in the UK and other places aren't included.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: a lot of his followers aren't the type who stream music either

You told me last week that no one buys music anymore, they just download it or stream it on Spotify, etc

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: link

That's what it says, but that's not the Official UK Charts website... Here you go link

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Adam has never had huge numbers of followers and a lot of his followers

He has a lot more followers than a lot of people who are charting higher... it's as if his own followers aren't buying his music.

rockchic65 wrote: without having millions of followers streamers.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Billboard counts US sales, streams etc as far as I know so the numbers in the UK and other places aren't included.

I know that. I'm well aquinted with the UK and US charts. Only an idiot would think Billboard represents both countries.

rockchic65 wrote: No idea why that's out of date but you can clearly see that it did chart straight after the strictly live show at #29 and that his album was at #30 but previously at #5.

rockchic65 wrote: No idea where you get the idea he has tons of followers.

rockchic65 wrote: Which begs the question why you keep going on about billboard as if it's the only chart that matters

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: without having millions of followers streamers.

He has an impressingly large amount of followers, believe it or not. 4 million on his Facebook. If 1 out of every 50 bought his album, he'd be rolling in money and big hits!

rockchic65 wrote: Adam has gained more popularity in the UK recently and seems to do less well in the US except for the Hot AC which he's steadlily been increasing on and is now #39.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: No idea why that's out of date but you can clearly see that it did chart straight after the strictly live show at #29 and that his album was at #30 but previously at #5.

The site you linked to wasn't an official charts page... the link I gave you was. So, I don't know why they'd have the number before the official chart page! Strange!

rockchic65 wrote: He's had that facebook a/c since 2009 and it's likely there's lots of people who followed him while on Idol and just after who now don't actively follow him, all Idol, x factor contestants have a drop off in interest after the show ends

rockchic65 wrote: That was a screenshot someone did, it's the exact same chart, this is the actual site they got the figures from, I've changed the date so you can see the single at #29 link

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Adam has gained more popularity in the UK recently and seems to do less well in the US except for the Hot AC which he's steadlily been increasing on and is now #39.

The Hot AC chart is literally airplay on adult oriented radio. If you're proud of that number, you can say, "Yay, he's getting airplay..." .... but the people still aren't buying it despite the exposure. You've said people don't stream. So they don't buy digitally either? They need the physical album? You've said people don't do that anymore, and that I should look at his streaming numbers (which are low, by the way). You contradict yourself over the whole streaming vs digital vs physical.

rockchic65 wrote: they know now and are checking his new stuff out hence the increase in followers recently.

rockchic65 wrote: the EP wouldn't have charted at #5.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: He's had that facebook a/c since 2009 and it's likely there's lots of people who followed him while on Idol and just after who now don't actively follow him, all Idol, x factor contestants have a drop off in interest after the show ends

He was on the show for one season... he had three hit albums since then. You mean, maybe after he created three hit albums, people have lost interest? Maybe it's the music that is bugging people from listening to him.

rockchic65 wrote: Also itunes where a lot of people buy music (myself included) has it's own chart where he charted high and has since been up and down the chart, clearly people are buying and downloading on there as well.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: they know now and are checking his new stuff out hence the increase in followers recently.

I thought you don't care about popularity and increases in followers? Certainly you look more into him, and more often than you act, to notice a difference.

rockchic65 wrote: Well that's not what it sounds like from people's comments everywhere but after his album in 2015 he's had four years of nothing much in new music and this is the first time he's put music out independently.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Also itunes where a lot of people buy music (myself included) has it's own chart where he charted high and has since been up and down the chart, clearly people are buying and downloading on there as well.

iTunes chart is integrated in the Billboard Hot 100 here in the USA. It measures all digital sales, physical sales, and streams... they tally it up and compare to other artists.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: Well that's not what it sounds like from people's comments everywhere but after his album in 2015 he's had four years of nothing much in new music and this is the first time he's put music out independently.

That's why I said Neon Trees is similar to him. Not in terms of style, or genre, but in terms of... Neon Trees did exactly that same thing. Three albums (with less success than Adam)... then left the label... put out singles (no EP though) independently. Adam got to tour a lot with Queen, and everyone knows that's a lot of exposure... unless Adam Worshippers can admit, "Yes, most of the audience in Queen concerts go, not for Adam, but for Brian and Roger"

rockchic65 wrote: But the itunes sales and downloads in other countries won't be included

rockchic65 wrote: A lot of the fans go for B & R and the music, the fact they think Adam does a good job won't make them automatically love his solo stuff since it's so different so although he gets exposure he doesn't get tons of new fans that way.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: A lot of the fans go for B & R and the music, the fact they think Adam does a good job won't make them automatically love his solo stuff since it's so different so although he gets exposure he doesn't get tons of new fans that way.

SweetCaroline disagrees. I know of Queen fans who have gone only to get a glance of seeing Brian and Roger. I know some people would go just because going to concerts is fun. Some diehard Queen fans don't mind Adam singing for them (I don't mind if he continues touring with Queen, I wish I had gotten to see the concert in NYC just for the experience and I live so close). I know Adam has his own fans there, but if you think about it, it dwarfs in comparison to Queen. That's why there's a lot of arguments here, because people come here, his worshippers, and they big him up, and act as though he's the best thing ever... but you're on a page for Queen and Freddie... us here think Freddie's the best thing ever, and critics tend to agree. Queen are huge... they are the biggest, most famous band in the world.

Jazz+ wrote: Long may King Mercury reign and he will still be talked about in 100 years time !

SweetCaroline wrote: This thread does not say that Adam is the best singer ever or better than Freddie or anyone else who is now deceased. It says he is the best singer currently in the here and now. Brancelli thinks Dimash is better. Everyone has their own subjective opinion. My opinion is that you can’t see everything on a video because the scope is limited. When you are there in person you see the whole view and not just a small portion.

Jazz+ wrote: Long may King Mercury reign and he will still be talked about in 100 years time !

Jazz+ wrote: 7 singles released and not one in the British charts !

miraclesteinway wrote: Basically my take on Q+AL is that I accept it as a legacy act. Adam Lambert is actually a good singer in that he's technically proficient. I also accept that it's more musical theatre now, and Adam Lambert does look more like a rock star parody than an actual rock star at times. I don't share the view - Brian May's view - that Freddie would be, in any way, jealous of Adam Lambert. I think he would be impressed by his technique, although he might not like the sound of Lambert's voice but that's open to speculation. Things are also very different now. Adam Lambert has vocal coaches and continuous training to help him produce a certain sound, a homogenised sound yes, that is the standard production tone in musical theatre and perhaps some pop music.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: A lot of the fans go for B & R and the music, the fact they think Adam does a good job won't make them automatically love his solo stuff since it's so different so although he gets exposure he doesn't get tons of new fans that way.

SweetCaroline disagrees. I know of Queen fans who have gone only to get a glance of seeing Brian and Roger. I know some people would go just because going to concerts is fun. Some diehard Queen fans don't mind Adam singing for them (I don't mind if he continues touring with Queen, I wish I had gotten to see the concert in NYC just for the experience and I live so close). I know Adam has his own fans there, but if you think about it, it dwarfs in comparison to Queen. That's why there's a lot of arguments here, because people come here, his worshippers, and they big him up, and act as though he's the best thing ever... but you're on a page for Queen and Freddie... us here think Freddie's the best thing ever, and critics tend to agree. Queen are huge... they are the biggest, most famous band in the world.

Well said. I think a person or two here forget that they actually post on a Queen board.

SweetCaroline wrote: This thread does not say that Adam is the best singer ever or better than Freddie or anyone else who is now deceased. It says he is the best singer currently in the here and now. Brancelli thinks Dimash is better. Everyone has their own subjective opinion. My opinion is that you can’t see everything on a video because the scope is limited. When you are there in person you see the whole view and not just a small portion.

Saint Jiub wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: A lot of the fans go for B & R and the music, the fact they think Adam does a good job won't make them automatically love his solo stuff since it's so different so although he gets exposure he doesn't get tons of new fans that way.

SweetCaroline disagrees. I know of Queen fans who have gone only to get a glance of seeing Brian and Roger. I know some people would go just because going to concerts is fun. Some diehard Queen fans don't mind Adam singing for them (I don't mind if he continues touring with Queen, I wish I had gotten to see the concert in NYC just for the experience and I live so close). I know Adam has his own fans there, but if you think about it, it dwarfs in comparison to Queen. That's why there's a lot of arguments here, because people come here, his worshippers, and they big him up, and act as though he's the best thing ever... but you're on a page for Queen and Freddie... us here think Freddie's the best thing ever, and critics tend to agree. Queen are huge... they are the biggest, most famous band in the world.

Well said. I think a person or two here forget that they actually post on a Queen board.

I also agree wholeheartedly. The QAL section would be a lot more peaceful without SC's hyperbole and hatred of hard-core Queen fans.

AngelR wrote: Here is a great video for all of you to watch :-) , it's about vocalists rating: link

AngelR wrote: I knew you'd like this video!

Saint Jiub wrote: I see that the video did not downgrade any vocalists for having a homgenous non-distinctive voice. Most of the vocalists in this video left me cold. The video rated Nate Ruess (whoever he is) as only a C+, and apparently did not give much credit for his pleasant, powerful, unique and distinctive style. I believe he deserved an A rating. However, I have not seen Nate Ruess live, so apparently my opinion is worthless. Anyone else rated that was rated B+ or lower was indistinctive, except for Lionol Richie who was severely underrated and should have received a top STAR rating. Bono and Axl did not deserve their A ratings, as their voices are only distinctive in that their voices have a consistent grating annoying sound "quality". I would give them at best a C rating comparable to what Ozzy might deserve. In my opinion, Steven Tyler, Marvin Gaye and Phil Collins were underrated and should have gotten the top STAR rating. George Michael also clearly deserved the A rating that he received. To me, Steve Perry, Freddie Mercury and Stevie Wonder were the only vocalists presented that received the top STAR rating and genuinely deserved the top rating. Frank Sinatra's phony voice deserved a B rating (or worse). How did Elvis, Paul McCartney, Robin Zander, Geddy Lee, Neil Diamond, Billy Joel, and Elton John not receive a top STAR rating (or get rated at all)???

SweetCaroline wrote: Angel, AMEN! I agree qith all pf those atimgs Angel, AMEN! I agree with all of those ratings!

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm surprised Jon Bon Jovi is rated so high. I don't get that one.

Saint Jiub wrote: I see that the video did not downgrade any vocalists for having a homgenous non-distinctive voice. Most of the vocalists in this video left me cold. The video rated Nate Ruess (whoever he is) as only a C+, and apparently did not give much credit for his pleasant, powerful, unique and distinctive style. I believe he deserved an A rating. However, I have not seen Nate Ruess live, so apparently my opinion is worthless. Anyone else rated that was rated B+ or lower was indistinctive, except for Lionol Richie who was severely underrated and should have received a top STAR rating. Bono and Axl did not deserve their A ratings, as their voices are only distinctive in that their voices have a consistent grating annoying sound "quality". I would give them at best a C rating comparable to what Ozzy might deserve. In my opinion, Steven Tyler, Marvin Gaye and Phil Collins were underrated and should have gotten the top STAR rating. George Michael also clearly deserved the A rating that he received. To me, Steve Perry, Freddie Mercury and Stevie Wonder were the only vocalists presented that received the top STAR rating and genuinely deserved the top rating. Frank Sinatra's phony voice deserved a B rating (or worse). How did Elvis, Paul McCartney, Robin Zander, Geddy Lee, Neil Diamond, Billy Joel, and Elton John not receive a top STAR rating (or get rated at all)???

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm surprised Jon Bon Jovi is rated so high. I don't get that one.

Because it's on technical ability and he has or at least had good technical skills.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm surprised Jon Bon Jovi is rated so high. I don't get that one.

Because it's on technical ability and he has or at least had good technical skills.

Does he? He's the one artist I purposely don't listen to. Haven't for years, but I never thought of him as a technically good singer.

SweetCaroline wrote: Angel, AMEN! I agree qith all pf those atimgs Angel, AMEN! I agree with all of those ratings!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, mind your own friggin business! You do not live with me (thank God) so you do NOT know what singers I have seen or listened to over a very long lifetime.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, mind your own friggin business! You do not live with me (thank God) so you do NOT know what singers I have seen or listened to over a very long lifetime. I do not agree with Saint Jiub about Nate Ruess. He has been successful with his group and a collaboration with Pink but his very loud voice is misleading because it is very nasally and monotone and IMO rather annoying! I do think that Elvis should have the STAR rating for his gorgeous baritone voice. His "Can't Help Falling In Love With You" and Hawaiian Wedding Song" are beyond perfection!

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm surprised Jon Bon Jovi is rated so high. I don't get that one.

Because it's on technical ability and he has or at least had good technical skills.

Does he? He's the one artist I purposely don't listen to. Haven't for years, but I never thought of him as a technically good singer.

I would say he's pretty skilled technically, he's lost range now but he was good but he has a distinct way of singing that might not be to your taste.

SweetCaroline wrote: “Try thinking for yourself for a change.” Stop projecting, icy! It is you who doesn’t have an original thought and only post in response to other people’s posts! It is pathetic and annoying after 8 years to hear the same crap over and over and over and over and making new people so unwelcome! You have such a shallow life. It is you, not me who needs a drastic change!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, Saint Jiub, That is a good example of the nasty crap Adam has been put through. He did a fantastic performance in Kiev and in Belfast and in Poland and in Russia and in the UK and everywhere else he has been with and without Queen!

Saint Jiub wrote: link link "Taking more liberties with melody than any vocalist should, Adam completely botches a large part of Queen’s greatest hits’ setlist, which includes everything from Fat Bottomed Girls, Under Pressure and Another One Bites the Dust to The Show Must Go On and Seven Seas of Rhye. A particularly awful highlight is Lambert’s unique take on Somebody to Love (check 1:24:40). Even the best of all GPS units couldn’t help him find his way to the correct notes and even worse still is that when all else fails, Lambert resorts to slathering on goat vibrato hoping to mask the mistakes. It’s bad. And don’t forget about Bohemian Rhapsody (1:40:10), where Lambert’s voice gets so shrill you’d swear you’re listening to a bird and a cat fucking. In a blender."

Iron Butterfly wrote: There are few artists I can never listen to. Jon on Jovi and Bon Jovi are on a very short list that I have. I don't know if I should try to explain myself, but I have horrible memories associated with that music. It's unfair, I know.

SweetCaroline wrote: I am fine with discussing on a discussion board but I don’t need nosy people telling me what I know or like and that I hate Freddie and Queen fans and that the only entertainer I like and follow is Adam Lambert and that posting information about him and his collaboration with Queen is SPAMMING. BTW I have been next to Freddie and Queen fans for 5 years since 2014 at concerts and not only that, I consider myself a Freddie and Queen fan. It is NOT being disloyal to Freddie to love both him AND Adam! When I have posted about his harlequin onesie and short shorts, it is in retaliation for the nasty comments about Adam’s stage outfits! All of the nastiness has been totally unnecessary and started when nasty people couldn’t stand that Adam’s performances were so outstanding and had to demean his excellent vocals by comparing him to a goat! Why? Why can’t we be happy that Queen music is still being performed live?

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: There are few artists I can never listen to. Jon on Jovi and Bon Jovi are on a very short list that I have. I don't know if I should try to explain myself, but I have horrible memories associated with that music. It's unfair, I know.

No it's fair, Most people have horrible memories associated with Bon Jovi. Richie Sambora's guitar playing was the only thing that saved that band from being a complete mess. Jon BJ was a limited singer, but it was the fact he took his weedy voice and shitty lyrics so seriously that made him a laughing stock among rock fans. But the housewives loved him.

Saint Jiub wrote: link link "Taking more liberties with melody than any vocalist should, Adam completely botches a large part of Queen’s greatest hits’ setlist, which includes everything from Fat Bottomed Girls, Under Pressure and Another One Bites the Dust to The Show Must Go On and Seven Seas of Rhye. A particularly awful highlight is Lambert’s unique take on Somebody to Love (check 1:24:40). Even the best of all GPS units couldn’t help him find his way to the correct notes and even worse still is that when all else fails, Lambert resorts to slathering on goat vibrato hoping to mask the mistakes. It’s bad. And don’t forget about Bohemian Rhapsody (1:40:10), where Lambert’s voice gets so shrill you’d swear you’re listening to a bird and a cat fucking. In a blender."

snifflese wrote: That was his first show with them ever and it certainly was not his best. I even cringed here and there, esp. on the the real rocking ones like SCC. I am sure Freddie didn't sound all that in his first show ever! Pick a review from last year (7 years later) and they are all pretty much stellar. People grow and learn and change how they approach the music. I am not surprised you had to go that far back to find an awful one. I have gone to every tour and each one they improve by leaps and bounds. Adam's voice has matured so he sounds a little deeper on the rock songs and his use of the high notes has decreased a lot. But funny thing is that the concert goers are disappointed when they go to a show where Adam is a little more restrained. His voice is phenomenal at this point and I can find thousands of links to articles stating that and from real concert goers. His voice truly sounds different if you are there and he does justice to Queen's music otherwise Brian and Roger wouldn't be touring with him. Icy, can you you give it a break since it is Thanksgiving eve? That long diatribe didn't add anything to the discussion. You have written the same thing a thousand times by now (slight exaggeration) but you get my point.

SweetCaroline wrote: You are disgusting and a miserable human being. As I’ve said many times before I will post what I want and you can jump up and down about it. The day you post something original in this forum about Queen + Adam Lambert will be an amazing breakthrough. Until then, Miss Icy, you can go pound some salt!

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t have a perfect life but I have no empathy for nasty people like you! You are disgusting!

Brancelli wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all who participate. I hope you enjoy quality time with your real life families and all those who actually matter in your lives. Hope everyone has (or has had) a wonderful day.

SweetCaroline wrote: We used to be only an hour away by car and now it is 2-1/2 hours by plane!