| thetman 14.10.2019 23:32 |
around the 2.37 mark link |
| matt z 15.10.2019 03:12 |
Nope. Not at all. It's just some delay that probably happened in processing/uploading the video. There's about a 3 sec sync issue. If i were on something more than a mobile it'd be much clearer. The video and audio are just out of sync |
| matt z 15.10.2019 04:48 |
You know what. UPON FURTHER REVIEW 1) WATCHING THE SCROLLING SCREEN as a timetable (*it never altered rhythm) 2) hearing audience testimonials (*last 5 seconds you hear "is the audio out of sync"? From a Napoleon Dynamite sounding guy. 3) THEY MIMED THE PERFORMANCE! !! HOLY SHIT! YOU ARE CORRECT SIR! i take it back. Goddamm i want my $350 back from four tickets on the last Tour Someone queued in that high note at the wrong time and the band continued out of sync and Brian looked disappointed and it turned awkward upon further review. THEY MIMED IT! BTW: IT really starts around 2:15 when he missed the cue into the high note. It was abrupt Maybe someone deliberately did this in disgust. My money would be on a tech who couldn't get a selfie or get to suck face with Adam. Either that or Anita pulled some strings cause of the Brian story in the mail a week ago. Maybe she pulled a "FACE IN THE CROWD" (Patricia Neal against Andy Griffith) Dayumm!!! They've been caught in fakery! Someone DOWNLOAD IT NOW! ;) |
| runner_70 15.10.2019 05:04 |
No wonder as anything about QAL is fake and staged. They got busted! |
| dysan 15.10.2019 06:39 |
Interesting to see an audience source for the glitch. I'd say it's a delay tower being a dick, but the crowd don't seem that far away. *scratches head* |
| rockchic65 15.10.2019 07:45 |
It's a backing track being activated when it shouldn't have been is my opinion and it confused them and took a few seconds to realize what was happening and try to just sing around it. Up until that point the vid is just slightly out of sync by a second or so. |
| dysan 15.10.2019 07:47 |
It's certainly curious. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 08:04 |
They've used double tracking since Paul Rogers days, you'll be hard pressed to find a band which doesn't these days, especially an older group whose vocalists are getting a weaker voice. That's where you have a quieter prerecorded vocal just behind the live vocal in parts so it's not as noticeable if you miss a note or anything. But this does look like Lambert is full on mining. |
| dysan 15.10.2019 08:39 |
To be fair to him, I think he's the member that doesn't need to mime. |
| rockchic65 15.10.2019 09:06 |
emrabt wrote: They've used double tracking since Paul Rogers days, you'll be hard pressed to find a band which doesn't these days, especially an older group whose vocalists are getting a weaker voice. That's where you have a quieter prerecorded vocal just behind the live vocal in parts so it's not as noticeable if you miss a note or anything. But this does look like Lambert is full on mining.It's not a backing track they use it's a vocoder type thing that Spike uses (he explained about it in a video it's on Y/tube) where it doubles up the vocals for a fuller sound but live not recorded. This just looks like the track they would use for setting up all the lights, cue's and lasers etc was activated when obviously it shouldn't have been. There were issues getting the sound sorted at rehearsal and then the previous artist ran on longer and the stage was still being set up as Rami was introducing them, far different than their normal tour when they've plenty time to iron out everything and check the equipment properly. As Dysan said Adam's the last person to need lip sync. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 09:25 |
I still think it's the Double track coming in too early and too loud and then staying out of sync. |
| Holly2003 15.10.2019 10:43 |
It would be odd if they did whole tours without any miming and then chose to do it for one song in one concert. Doesn't make any sense. More likely a technical error. |
| Fireplace 15.10.2019 13:37 |
link Watch this and tell me it's a backing track because of Roger's "weak old vocals". |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 14:13 |
Okay people are confusing "Double tracking" (Having a faint prerecorded vocal which strengthens weak vocals in parts a performer struggles with, EQ'd in and out as needed and still needs the performer to sing) with "a backing track" (Recording backing vocals and music, not needed here as there is a full band on stage) and with "miming" (Miming to fully pre-recorded vocals). I still think it's a double tracking error and i think this because this performance is short, so the vocals after the solo were queued in by hand, totally miss timed. Honestly it's pretty standard these day to do this in spots, maybe Lambert finds it hard to get the right key for the "I'm burning through the sky" re introduction. [Quote]Watch this and tell me it's a backing track because of Roger's "weak old vocals". [/Quote] Roger isn't the one singing don't stop me now. |
| dysan 15.10.2019 14:52 |
It appears to be the entire performance though - guitar / drums and vocal which makes me believe it's more likely to be a message from the future telling them to stop. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 15:20 |
dysan wrote: It appears to be the entire performance though - guitar / drums and vocal which makes me believe it's more likely to be a message from the future telling them to stop.That's a very good point. |
| Holly2003 15.10.2019 15:39 |
Could be something from the multiverse intruding on our reality. Those fools at CERN, I warned them this would happen! We're doomed, ... doomed! |
| kcd123 15.10.2019 15:40 |
link audio from audience |
| dudeofqueen 15.10.2019 16:39 |
It's Zuckerberg and Trump in collusion with Michelle Barnier I reckon; dialling in on some sort of secret modem and eventually it'll just be as Queen+ Various International Fucktards where MayLor play ever-so-quietly to pre-recorded speeches. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 16:46 |
Holly2003 wrote: Could be something from the multiverse intruding on our reality. Those fools at CERN, I warned them this would happen! We're doomed, ... doomed!#Lambert 4 CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS 2019# Makes me look down with the kids. |
| runner_70 15.10.2019 17:12 |
dysan wrote: Interesting to see an audience source for the glitch. I'd say it's a delay tower being a dick, but the crowd don't seem that far away. *scratches head*Surely not a delay tower as the voice and music comes earlier than Lamebird is actually singing and the singing melody is quite differnt from what he actually sings. He sang live but they had a backing track that was outta sync. At least half playback then |
| runner_70 15.10.2019 17:14 |
rockchic65 wrote:It was not only the voice but the instruments as well-. It was a whole track containing everything and recorded obviously at another date.emrabt wrote: They've used double tracking since Paul Rogers days, you'll be hard pressed to find a band which doesn't these days, especially an older group whose vocalists are getting a weaker voice. That's where you have a quieter prerecorded vocal just behind the live vocal in parts so it's not as noticeable if you miss a note or anything. But this does look like Lambert is full on mining.It's not a backing track they use it's a vocoder type thing that Spike uses (he explained about it in a video it's on Y/tube) where it doubles up the vocals for a fuller sound but live not recorded. This just looks like the track they would use for setting up all the lights, cue's and lasers etc was activated when obviously it shouldn't have been. There were issues getting the sound sorted at rehearsal and then the previous artist ran on longer and the stage was still being set up as Rami was introducing them, far different than their normal tour when they've plenty time to iron out everything and check the equipment properly. As Dysan said Adam's the last person to need lip sync. |
| runner_70 15.10.2019 17:14 |
dysan wrote: It appears to be the entire performance though - guitar / drums and vocal which makes me believe it's more likely to be a message from the future telling them to stop.Haha good one |
| dysan 15.10.2019 17:17 |
Yes it was unclear what was happening on first view. Which was the 'ghost' sound and what we were actually seeing. On the stream it made sense as the some kind of delay malarkey but the audience one is revealing. I can't believe how many times I've watched different sources of that today to try to fathom it out. As it's on the beat I'd think that the tap tempo backing track was triggered too early by someone earlier in the song - but TBH this is why I've never dabbled in that sort of performance myself. It's bound to go screwy. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 17:18 |
We can all agree on one thing, some prerecorded stuff started up and was out of sync by a second or two, this doesn't appear to come through the stage monitors as the band were still playing. |
| dysan 15.10.2019 17:26 |
I think that's a fair conclusion. I'm still trying to disprove this however as I feel a little let down by them. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 17:29 |
dysan wrote: I think that's a fair conclusion. I'm still trying to disprove this however as I feel a little let down by them.Well if it was a double track vocal, it would have been just a vocal going out of sync, like you get with Roger Waters or Paul McCartney and the like when mishaps happen. As you pointed out this is a whole other performance that kicks in. |
| Sealion 15.10.2019 20:49 |
Why does this topic exist twice? I posted an explanation in the thread with the same topic in the QAL section. If anyone is still wondering, what happened there. |
| emrabt 15.10.2019 21:10 |
Sealion wrote: Why does this topic exist twice? I posted an explanation in the thread with the same topic in the QAL section. If anyone is still wondering, what happened there.Just to clarify the explanation on the other thread, is it this?: "The backing track was used for the technicians during pre-show set up but accidentally played the same time as the background screen video" Presumably the fading in and out was a technician frantically moving the sliders trying to turn it down. |
| Sealion 15.10.2019 21:12 |
emrabt wrote:That’s it. In short.Sealion wrote: Why does this topic exist twice? I posted an explanation in the thread with the same topic in the QAL section. If anyone is still wondering, what happened there.Just to clarify the explanation on the other thread, is it this?: "The backing track was used for the technicians during pre-show set up but accidentally played the same time as the background screen video" |
| dysan 16.10.2019 06:48 |
That makes sense. I did note that it happened as the screen popped into life behind them but other than that.. Also a point of note, I'm guessing a lot of people (myself included) don't even note that there is a QAL forum so it's fair to assume that this, and all QAL stuff can be discussed here too. |
| Vocal harmony 16.10.2019 13:22 |
The simple answer would be that production rehearsals are sometimes filmed and very often audio recorded. This was a major televised event, in case of live sound drop out they had a recording of the songs they were playing which was switched in by mistake. There is no audible difference in the rest of the performance. An obvious thing to have as a backing track would be a second guitar to privide a fuller sound when Brian is soloing, this doesn't happen. Another would be for the solos in part or whole to be "on tape" this again doesn't happen Brian changes what he plays more often than a lot of people realise and he makes mistakes, so he is live. If they were using tapes they wouldn't need a percussionist, Roger could play just the basics while a recording did the rest. He is quite obscured by his kit. Spike and Neil are accomplished players too. Vocally they have more voices available than they had originally to cover backing vocals. As for the lead vocals, one of the complaints about Lambert is that he keeps changing the phrasing, timing and delivery of the melody, if he was lip syncing that wouldn't be the case. |
| The Real Wizard 16.10.2019 15:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote: The simple answer would be that production rehearsals are sometimes filmed and very often audio recorded. This was a major televised event, in case of live sound drop out they had a recording of the songs they were playing which was switched in by mistake. There is no audible difference in the rest of the performance. An obvious thing to have as a backing track would be a second guitar to privide a fuller sound when Brian is soloing, this doesn't happen. Another would be for the solos in part or whole to be "on tape" this again doesn't happen Brian changes what he plays more often than a lot of people realise and he makes mistakes, so he is live. If they were using tapes they wouldn't need a percussionist, Roger could play just the basics while a recording did the rest. He is quite obscured by his kit. Spike and Neil are accomplished players too. Vocally they have more voices available than they had originally to cover backing vocals. As for the lead vocals, one of the complaints about Lambert is that he keeps changing the phrasing, timing and delivery of the melody, if he was lip syncing that wouldn't be the case.Dear internet trolls, Here's a chance to defer to the knowledge of people who know a thing or two about the industry instead of defaulting to one's hatred for people you've never met. But there's no need to have high hopes on this decrepit website, is there? |
| stevelondon20 16.10.2019 19:26 |
High hopes haha! Love it. |