QueenZone discussion #1570136

Negative Creep wrote: Maybe comparing between the 2 versions back to back, the remix sounds nicer than the original but how many people are that familiar with the album to listen to the new mix fresh and genuinely think it suddenly sounds amazing? Really? It still sounds dated, and sounds kinda thin.

Negative Creep wrote: Maybe comparing between the 2 versions back to back, the remix sounds nicer than the original but how many people are that familiar with the album to listen to the new mix fresh and genuinely think it suddenly sounds amazing? Really? It still sounds dated, and sounds kinda thin.

aristide1 wrote: It seems there is less reverb, which is great because Mack really exaggerated with reverb, not only on Mr Bad Guy but on all his Queen albums. Here is the original then the remix.

runner_70 wrote: I hate the drums on MMP- love the 80's reverb drums. They sound very flat. And the whole thing sounds just flat. What do you guys hear. Liked LMLTNT but MMP is awful

runner_70 wrote: I hate the drums on MMP- love the 80's reverb drums. They sound very flat. And the whole thing sounds just flat. What do you guys hear. Liked LMLTNT but MMP is awful

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: I hate the drums on MMP- love the 80's reverb drums. They sound very flat. And the whole thing sounds just flat. What do you guys hear. Liked LMLTNT but MMP is awful

It's the opposite of flat compared to the original: It's much more punchy, clearer, the instruments have air and space between them, the drums aren't buried in the mix like with the original, which, as I said, sounds muddy, woolly, and flat in comparison.

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: I hate the drums on MMP- love the 80's reverb drums. They sound very flat. And the whole thing sounds just flat. What do you guys hear. Liked LMLTNT but MMP is awful

Have you listened to the entire CD or that song on CD, or just the short MP3 clip?

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: I hate the drums on MMP- love the 80's reverb drums. They sound very flat. And the whole thing sounds just flat. What do you guys hear. Liked LMLTNT but MMP is awful

It's the opposite of flat compared to the original: It's much more punchy, clearer, the instruments have air and space between them, the drums aren't buried in the mix like with the original, which, as I said, sounds muddy, woolly, and flat in comparison.

YOu do know that the frist one is from 1985 and the second part is from 2019 ;)

cmi wrote: I think the lowest point of the original mix is the thin sound and low volume of acoustic drums. It seriously affects on the overal perception of songs. This problem was greatly solved in the new revision.

cmi wrote: ^ Have you ever listened to Queen CDs...or just short mp3 clips?

runner_70 wrote: I already find the new MMP flat sounding oon the pc speakers (Streamed over a Hifi Surround system). I like 80's drums with reverb. THe new version seems to suck out the life completely out of it

runner_70 wrote: I already find the new MMP flat sounding oon the pc speakers (Streamed over a Hifi Surround system). I like 80's drums with reverb. THe new version seems to suck out the life completely out of it

Makka wrote: I have the original release of the CD here but no point comparing that to a Spotify stream. But on saying that even on Spotify they do sound fresher.

cmi wrote: Both are excellent! But nothing special because they were mixed excellent originally. Love Kills features no snare drum arrangement in the middle of the song.

runner_70 wrote:THe new version seems to suck out the life completely out of it

dysan wrote: Agreed. Whatever way remixes are technically better for the waveform beardstrokers - they also generally ruin the X factor the original had. The original Mr Bad Guy isn't generally regarded unfavourably because the yeah yeah bit at the end of Love Is Dangerous wasn't quite given it's own clear space in the stereo spectrum.

dysan wrote: I was making a general observation and quoted you as an example. I'm sorry if you thought it was an attack.

dysan wrote: I don't want to get grubby on here, but you said 'The "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" at the end of My Love is Dangerous (3:32) is far more audible now.' which I quoted. What did I perceive was said? What observation did I make? Why are you now attacking me?

dysan wrote: It's a review of a remixed album where each observation posted on the new mix is either a pro or a con, or an equal compared to the old mix. I picked a previous observation you had posted and used it to illustrate why a remix is not really necessary or of artist worth (whether I believe that or not) - neither to argue against the findings of the listening session or to back them up. It's fun to find logical links in reasoning and observation - whether they are truths or not I leave to the reader and those with far better knowledge of the mixing on Mr Bad Guy than myself.

aristide1 wrote: Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit. We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that. But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility. In fact it should not concern you at all.

Day dop wrote:

aristide1 wrote: Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit. We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that. But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility. In fact it should not concern you at all.

2 out of 10 for your attempt at trolling.

aristide1 wrote: Day dop, we understand that a delivery man paid you a visit. We also understand that you are enthusiast and started a thread on that.

aristide1 wrote: But don't push it, we are not children, and the content of this thread is not your property or your responsibility. In fact it should not concern you at all.

aristide1 wrote: Dude, man, brother... you've started a thread full of promises and now you're arguing with dysan, while I am a troll. It's an unexpected development, and I have the feeling that we are allowed to post on "your" thread as long as we agree with you.

runner_70 wrote: This daydop guy is almost as annoying as the Glamberts in the QAL threads if you criticized the tool. I only heard lmltnt and the MMP snippet. While i liked the first one i hate MMP. It was the best song on the album. The drums Sound flat as fuck. The original Sounds way more pompous than this Stripped back version which does not fit at all. Waiting for my copy but guess will have to wait a while as QP are never able to deliver on release date outside the UK. Send it a few days earlier you sad tossers

snelly1 wrote: Neil Fairclough has replaced the bass on 6 tracks- 2,4,5,7,10,11

K770i wrote: Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different. Man Made Paradise does sound muffled and flat, and you barely hear any drums.

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different. Man Made Paradise does sound muffled and flat, and you barely hear any drums.

When did you last get your hearing tested? Or do you wear a heading aid?

princetom wrote: just had a listen to "man made paradise" shared earlier in this thread. well, well, well. i have to say that i actually prefer the original version. not for reasons of musical perfectness. but: * the original version had that kind of feeling a mr.mercury would have liked to share. there's an tensiounous lead vocal. encompanished with some throat yelling but most beautiful background voice. they oppose until they finally meet. what's annoying, but still gets used to be accepted is the drum sound. most probably it's that prominent for reaching a special audience. it's an upbeat number, isn't it ? isnt't it some kind of track being worth to be played in a disco in munich some 30+ years ago ?i tend to see it that way. and that's what the mix is all about. a great performance with no excuses to the "undermixed" instruments. * the remixed version stands more for a man on the piano, a relaxed kind of mood of an over-tempurated performer who is hiding his talent behind that well mixed instruments. or: to get it right: the production seems wanting to treat every note of the composition quite right. seems to equalize any acoustic term of that very performer. dominate the art in it. the previously dominant snare has to share its place within the instrumental mix. but: the vocals should have been more prominent. . i hope that makes any sense. . p.s.: that very curt cress plays like a machine. an art of it's own !

MercurialFreddie wrote: What do you guys think about how all of the instruments on the title track have been mixed? There is more depth and I feel like they tried to emphasize the polyphony and let those instruments breathe more. I like it, although the outro sounds different. Way different. The same goes for the outro of Man Made Paradise. Polyphony is much clearer now and how lead vocals mix with bv's is much more organic... if you know what I mean.

princetom wrote: just had a listen to "man made paradise" shared earlier in this thread. well, well, well. i have to say that i actually prefer the original version. not for reasons of musical perfectness. but: * the original version had that kind of feeling a mr.mercury would have liked to share. there's an tensiounous lead vocal. encompanished with some throat yelling but most beautiful background voice. they oppose until they finally meet. what's annoying, but still gets used to be accepted is the drum sound. most probably it's that prominent for reaching a special audience. it's an upbeat number, isn't it ? isnt't it some kind of track being worth to be played in a disco in munich some 30+ years ago ?i tend to see it that way. and that's what the mix is all about. a great performance with no excuses to the "undermixed" instruments. * the remixed version stands more for a man on the piano, a relaxed kind of mood of an over-tempurated performer who is hiding his talent behind that well mixed instruments. or: to get it right: the production seems wanting to treat every note of the composition quite right. seems to equalize any acoustic term of that very performer. dominate the art in it. the previously dominant snare has to share its place within the instrumental mix. but: the vocals should have been more prominent. . i hope that makes any sense. . p.s.: that very curt cress plays like a machine. an art of it's own !

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different. Man Made Paradise does sound muffled and flat, and you barely hear any drums.

I'm curious, do you have hearing problems, or wear a heading aid? I ask this as I know some Queen fans aren't in their younger years (not that you need to be of a certain age to suffer hearing loss.but the older you get, the more hearing goes...). It's just, I can't think why you'd not be hearing the album clearly, unless somehow you listened to a poor quality MP3 of the album, but I don't see why you would've done that.

You are an annoying twat. First you wine about being attcked as some do not share your opinion and next thing you do is a lame" get a hearing aid". So your opinion is the be-all-end-all?

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different. Man Made Paradise does sound muffled and flat, and you barely hear any drums.

I'm curious, do you have hearing problems, or wear a heading aid? I ask this as I know some Queen fans aren't in their younger years (not that you need to be of a certain age to suffer hearing loss.but the older you get, the more hearing goes...). It's just, I can't think why you'd not be hearing the album clearly, unless somehow you listened to a poor quality MP3 of the album, but I don't see why you would've done that.

You are an annoying twat. First you wine about being attcked as some do not share your opinion and next thing you do is a lame" get a hearing aid". So your opinion is the be-all-end-all?

Firstly, what I asked was a genuine question. not an attack. I was aware that it might come across the wrong way, so I edited it by time you'd replied that. See above, I just added it there. it might help if you didn't jump to false conclusions in future. I'll repeat what I previously said, your annoyance is your problem. Ask yourself why you're annoyed. The answer that doesn't lay blame on someone else will be the first step towards you dealing with your problem. Surely if you take a step back, you'd be able to see it's rich of you to call anyone a twat, considering you're someone who spends a a disproportionate amount of your life harassing Lambert fans online... day in, day out, months on end. Are you not aware that all that screams to everyone else is that you have an unhappy life? I suggest you read up on studies of internet trolls. It'll make for uncomfortable reading for you, but it'll enlighten you.

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different. Man Made Paradise does sound muffled and flat, and you barely hear any drums.

I'm curious, do you have hearing problems, or wear a heading aid? I ask this as I know some Queen fans aren't in their younger years (not that you need to be of a certain age to suffer hearing loss.but the older you get, the more hearing goes...). It's just, I can't think why you'd not be hearing the album clearly, unless somehow you listened to a poor quality MP3 of the album, but I don't see why you would've done that.

You are an annoying twat. First you wine about being attcked as some do not share your opinion and next thing you do is a lame" get a hearing aid". So your opinion is the be-all-end-all?

Firstly, what I asked was a genuine question. not an attack. I was aware that it might come across the wrong way, so I edited it by time you'd replied that. See above, I just added it there. it might help if you didn't jump to false conclusions in future. I'll repeat what I previously said, your annoyance is your problem. Ask yourself why you're annoyed. The answer that doesn't lay blame on someone else will be the first step towards you dealing with your problem. Surely if you take a step back, you'd be able to see it's rich of you to call anyone a twat, considering you're someone who spends a a disproportionate amount of your life harassing Lambert fans online... day in, day out, months on end. Are you not aware that all that screams to everyone else is that you have an unhappy life? I suggest you read up on studies of internet trolls. It'll make for uncomfortable reading for you, but it'll enlighten you.

You're working in your twat title and you win ;) Analyzing people you don't know while being offtopic. Twat of the highest order.

runner_70 wrote: Twat bar 3 - listen to your shitty remixes and shut the fuck up

Day dop wrote: ...by someone such as myself who only logs on every now and then.

aristide1 wrote:

Day dop wrote: ...by someone such as myself who only logs on every now and then.

This explains why you don't know that dysan is a valuable member of this community, non-aggressive, with comments above avereage and good spirit.

aristide1 wrote: When you started to push him around like a dog, just because he expressed a point of view different than yours, it was clear what kind of guy you are.

aristide1 wrote: It was clear for "me" not for "us", because I can speak only for myself, you're right on this aspect. The others may individually express their disgust.

aristide1 wrote: You should log in more often, not only when you are in the mood for bragging.

aristide1 wrote: A mental case like you is always welcomed for entertainment, although you are so painfully unpleasant that all the fun is already gone.

dastard wrote: When listening to the "new" Man Made Paradise while removing the left and right channels, that his voice sounds off. I compared it to the original and even lined both vocals up in a multitracker. It sounds like the pitch of his voice was altered. In these samples you could hear at the 8 second mark. The first are the original lines.

runner_70 wrote: Anyone else getting tired of daydops drivel? Everyone has mental issues if you disagree with him. What a twat. He probably is jobless and lives in mommys basement

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Anyone else getting tired of daydops drivel? Everyone has mental issues if you disagree with him. What a twat. He probably is jobless and lives in mommys basement

Wrong again. I'm self employed and live in a decent house in a respectable suburb. I think you could well be projecting when you say, "jobless and lives in mommys basement", considering that you spend an unhealthy amount of time on this forum obsessing over Adam Lambert and harassing his fans. How do you have time for a job and a home of your own? Seriously. At what point did I say, suggest, or imply that "Everyone has mental issues if you disagree" with me? Could you quote me saying, suggestions, or implying that? No? I thought not. Ironically, what's eluded you is that it was you who resorted to name calling as you cannot handle disagreement. Even since, you've continued to act in the same manner. But that's not unusual behaviour for you, is it? This is the fallacy you repeatedly make... Read on here: link The difference when it comes to you is that it isn't a question. It's well known that this forum has gone downhill since you've come here, How many people would argue that? Are you not aware of the saying, "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? Have you in recent years just once ever considered that your miserable existence is NOT the fault of Adam Lambert nor his fans? Is it not time for you to finally address that? Let's see if you can comment again without attacking as you've done with so many people for years now. I highly doubt you can.

Day dop wrote: Let's see if you can comment again without attacking as you've done with so many people for years now. I highly doubt you can.

runner_70 wrote: Listen to your Mr Bad guy remix you seem to be obsessed with and leave me alone with your bullcrap. Get a life. I really mean it. The MMP remix sounds atrocious and I am not the only one who has that opinion. Live with it.

Day dop wrote:

Day dop wrote: Let's see if you can comment again without attacking as you've done with so many people for years now. I highly doubt you can.

runner_70 wrote: Listen to your Mr Bad guy remix you seem to be obsessed with and leave me alone with your bullcrap. Get a life. I really mean it. The MMP remix sounds atrocious and I am not the only one who has that opinion. Live with it.

I quoted my comment above, then yours, as you proved me right and it's amusing to rub that in. So... a new Freddie remix of Mr Bad Guy is released, and as a result, a member creates a thread, and comments on the subject...and in your tiny mind, that equates to being "obsessed"? Well, no. If you want an example of obsession, then look no further than your very own behaviour across MANY threads for YEARS when it comes to Adam Lambert fans who you regularly pester and harass. That is a prime example of obsession. Derp! And I find it ironic that you of all people - the person whose spent the last few years of his life dedicating so much time to harassing and trolling people (mainly Lambert fans), on Queenzone - would suggest anyone else needs to "get a life". As for the last part you wrote, you're making the appeal to popularity fallacy. link I don't think it sounds "atrocious" whatsoever. You're being your usual hyperbolic and mellow-dramatic self. it's certainly not flat sounding as you've repeatedly - and wrongly - stated. I know that as- unlike you - I've listened to it on a decent set-up and made a direct comparison to the original. Perhaps you ought to have a listen to it via a decent source (CD will do it) on a decent set-up or a decent set of headphones rather than listening to an MP3 on the internet.. How about that? However, when you eventually get the CD, it'll come as no surprise whatsoever to see you return to this thread claiming that track sounds "atrocious" as well as other hyperbolic codswallop. That's you all over. As with others who I suspect watch but don't usually voice their view, I've witnessed your clown behaviour on here for a few years now. You want me to "leave you alone"? (as though you're the victim here, when it's you who came onto this thread and started with the name calling bullshit, as you couldn't handle disagreement) What if I decide not to leave you alone? What if I decide to do what you've done to other people for years (especially Lambert fans)? Wouldn't you like a dose of your own medicine so you can see how it feels for all those you harass, pester, and obsess over? Nice thought?

Day dop wrote: as you couldn't handle disagreement)

K770i wrote: @ Day Dop : To answer your question no i do not need a hearing aid and i stand by my original answer the album is not greatly improved at all apart from "Foolin Around" and as i stated before the rest of the album is hardly untouched. "Man Made Paradise" could have been dynamite if the fool that remixed it sat down and tried a few tricks with it. The drums are 3 miles away and it sounds muffled. I have an original copy of the Cd and top of the range Denon Hi fi system so please do not make any excuses up to support this badly mixed Cd.

Biggus Dickus wrote:

dastard wrote: When listening to the "new" Man Made Paradise while removing the left and right channels, that his voice sounds off. I compared it to the original and even lined both vocals up in a multitracker. It sounds like the pitch of his voice was altered. In these samples you could hear at the 8 second mark. The first are the original lines.

Well I'm pretty sure they've run all of Freddie's vocals thru autotune or similar for every Queen/FM release for years now.

K770i wrote: @ Day Dop : To answer your question no i do not need a hearing aid and i stand by my original answer the album is not greatly improved at all apart from "Foolin Around" and as i stated before the rest of the album is hardly untouched. "Man Made Paradise" could have been dynamite if the fool that remixed it sat down and tried a few tricks with it. The drums are 3 miles away and it sounds muffled. I have an original copy of the Cd and top of the range Denon Hi fi system so please do not make any excuses up to support this badly mixed Cd.

Chief Mouse wrote: The wise one will quit replying.

Day dop wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote: The wise one will quit replying.

I don't know how people here have put up with it for so many} years on this forum. I've witnessed plenty, but tend to not get involved as I'd barely be considered a part time member here, let alone a full time member, so fortunately, I don't have to deal with it all the time like others. I don't envy folks having to put up with that shit constantly. It was much better before the clown infestation.

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote: The wise one will quit replying.

I don't know how people here have put up with it for so many} years on this forum. I've witnessed plenty, but tend to not get involved as I'd barely be considered a part time member here, let alone a full time member, so fortunately, I don't have to deal with it all the time like others. I don't envy folks having to put up with that shit constantly. It was much better before the clown infestation.

It was - absolutely. Before tha clown called day dop (what kinda name is that ???) that came on hear and tried to tell everyone that his opinion is the only one that counts. SOmeone should have told him that it is completely subjective to think of a remix being better or worse. But he is selling hi "elitist" opinion and others who dont like it should get a hearing aid and "don't hear that it is better". It is like saying some girl is more beautiful than the other. Completely stupid!

runner_70 wrote: What a sad idiot. COming on here claiming that those who dont like the remix need a hearing aid. Fucking loser

K770i wrote: Exactly who the fuck was on the mixing desk needs shooting.

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Exactly who the fuck was on the mixing desk needs shooting.

Why? Because you can't hear the difference between the original version and the new version? Some examples that I mentioned earlier... 1) The alterations to the synths - be it louder / quieter / added reverb etc 2) The rerecorded bass on many of the tracks (2,4,5,7,10,11) 3) The new more organic sounding drums 4) The OTT reverb removed from Freddie Mercury's voice How are you not able to hear the differences that others here can? And how is it the person at the mixing desks fault that you can't hear what others can?

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

K770i wrote: Exactly who the fuck was on the mixing desk needs shooting.

Why? Because you can't hear the difference between the original version and the new version? Some examples that I mentioned earlier... 1) The alterations to the synths - be it louder / quieter / added reverb etc 2) The rerecorded bass on many of the tracks (2,4,5,7,10,11) 3) The new more organic sounding drums 4) The OTT reverb removed from Freddie Mercury's voice How are you not able to hear the differences that others here can? And how is it the person at the mixing desks fault that you can't hear what others can?

Stupid idiot. Give it up already you sad wanker

runner_70 wrote: EVeryone hears those "Difference" you fuckwhit. But some dont agree with you that it is "better". Got it now ?

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: EVeryone hears those "Difference" you fuckwhit. But some dont agree with you that it is "better". Got it now ?

Hello again very dim person. It should come as no surprise to you whatsoever to find that you're incorrect yet again. For example, did you miss the comment that said, "Sorry guys the only improvement on this album was "Foolin Around" and the rest do not sound any different."? I think that last part, "the rest do not sound any different", disproves your claim that "EVeryone hears those "Difference"" (btw, "those Difference" is incorrect. It should be "the difference", as I wrote earlier). . See? As I said, once again you're incorrect, and I suspect you're so used to being wrong in every way that all you feel you have in your miserable life is people on this forum to take your frustrations out on. Your original argument was that it sounded "flat", which it does not. Because of disagreement, you had one of your regular tantrums, name calling, throwing out straw man arguments etc, which is the way you've acted on this forum with people ever since you joined. i suspect this forum is the only place you socialise (for want of a better term). Do you think people here would miss you if you never logged in again?

K770i wrote: @DayDop Listen we all have opinions so you think the album is different and all for the better i disagree, i think it is a rip off to get fans to buy the album again. One song has been a great improvement "Foolin Around" the rest of the tracks are either ruined with bad mixing or they sound remain the same. My opinion so i am not ranting about this. My views to other Queen fans is don't bother buying this album but just enjoy the original copy of Mr Bad Guy the way Freddie approved of it on its release back in 1985.

runner_70 wrote: Hey fuckwhit

runner_70 wrote:I stand by my comment that MMP sounds atrocious and FLAT: Especially the drums. Fooling around is the same thing. While on the original MMP was full of drumreverb and sounded almost as pompous as Queen (No wonder it started out as a Queen song) the new version sounds like being recorded in a Jazz club. Totally flat. No dynamics whatsoever. End of discussion really.

runner_70 wrote: YOU seem to like it more - but wtf cares apart from your elitist bullshit opinion.

runner_70 wrote: MMP and the whole MBG from 1985 sounds as Freddie wanted it to sound back then. I doubt he would be pleased that 34 years later some unknown people try to mix it how THEY want it to sound. It is almost grave robbery. But that's what Maylor been doing for 28 years now. I think you would also be pleased if they would re-record older albums with Lamebird on vocals. And you would all enlighten us with your stupidity as it "sounds better the before".

K770i wrote: @DayDop Listen we all have opinions so you think the album is different and all for the better i disagree, i think it is a rip off to get fans to buy the album again. One song has been a great improvement "Foolin Around" the rest of the tracks are either ruined with bad mixing or they sound remain the same. My opinion so i am not ranting about this. My views to other Queen fans is don't bother buying this album but just enjoy the original copy of Mr Bad Guy the way Freddie approved of it on its release back in 1985.

runner_70 wrote: Spot on! I can already read the looney's comments that you are "wrong" again. utterly ridiculous. I doubt he even has the original pressing back from 1985.

pma wrote: I think the MBG special edition is an overall improvement, and for those who don't fancy this one, there are many ways to obtain the original version and stick to that one.

cmi wrote: Day dop, respect to you!

K770i wrote: @ Runner70 At the end of the day trying to interfere with rock history is totally wrong. What right do they have to twiddle knobs here and there on mixing desks and fuck Freddie's album up? I think in all honesty its all about Money and Queen fans are the most ripped off people of all bands ever when it comes to merchandise.

Saint Jiub wrote:

cmi wrote: Day dop, respect to you!

amen to that

snelly1 wrote: However, the mix is at times just WEIRD, things pop up suddenly louder seemingly out of nowhere, some synths seem way to loud, stereo field odd at times....nowhere near as good as the Abbey Road remix. Shame as some of these tracks could be real killers in the right hands.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: ...but I still prefer the original production because it is what Freddie wanted to publish

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: But you still believe Freddie gave permission to Jim Beach? hahaha. It's like being an adult and thinks the monster of Lake Less exists... The album sounds better, yes, but it's a sacrilege what they do with Stefan Wisnett....

*goodco* wrote: daydrop......start another thread then! Go through your analysis of each song, and..................don't feed the frickin' troll and get into arguments. I would love to read about the differences between the original and new release. I hate the fact that Richard and Your Valentine allow this 'reverse censorship'. Those that might post, do not, because of the 'idiots', or they have just quit following this web site due to this.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Well Day dop, I want not to be arrogant, but I talked and met Mack and Mike Moran, closer friends of Freddie, and you must imagine what they think about this...

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Don't you see the fuckin bad edition from Times waits....in cd single with cardboard and the picture disc single?.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: And only you can buy it online...If QP would have all the rights, that song would be published as single in a lot of variations, and would be number1 in UK, but....Jim Beach has the rights of image and voice, but not the right of the music and lyrics from that song, and also not In my defense. That's why there are not in spotify in the compilation messenger of the gods....

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Why Jim Beach is the secret hero in live aid movie adaptation? It was Trip Khalif...

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Well, too much negative....its funny said that. This forum is like the world, there are great persons but a lot of persons trying to be the master of the fuckin universe....

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: And I will not comment more on this Mr. Bad Guy topic because is impossible to discuss in good terms with some persons.

Jake12 wrote: I love it! Honestly the whole sound just sounds very fresh and clean! Lots of improvements.. only thing I have to complain about are the videos.. this in particular brother the living shit out of me!!!

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Well Day dop, I want not to be arrogant, but I talked and met Mack and Mike Moran, closer friends of Freddie, and you must imagine what they think about this... Don't you see the fuckin bad edition from Times waits....in cd single with cardboard and the picture disc single? And only you can buy it online...If QP would have all the rights, that song would be published as single in a lot of variations, and would be number1 in UK, but....Jim Beach has the rights of image and voice, but not the right of the music and lyrics from that song, and also not In my defense. That's why there are not in spotify in the compilation messenger of the gods.... Why Jim Beach is the secret hero in live aid movie adaptation? It was Trip Khalif...

snelly1 wrote: Listened to the new mix/re-record on vinyl. A few thoughts, it does sound fuller, better instrument separation, updated drums, bass and more prominent vocals with less reverb. However, the mix is at times just WEIRD, things pop up suddenly louder seemingly out of nowhere, some synths seem way to loud, stereo field odd at times....nowhere near as good as the Abbey Road remix. Shame as some of these tracks could be real killers in the right hands.

cmsdrums wrote:

snelly1 wrote: Listened to the new mix/re-record on vinyl. A few thoughts, it does sound fuller, better instrument separation, updated drums, bass and more prominent vocals with less reverb. However, the mix is at times just WEIRD, things pop up suddenly louder seemingly out of nowhere, some synths seem way to loud, stereo field odd at times....nowhere near as good as the Abbey Road remix. Shame as some of these tracks could be real killers in the right hands.

What is the Abbey Road remix release you refer to? Other than the single release of ‘Living On My Own’ I’m not aware of any other release of Mr Bad Guy than the original version and subsequent remaster in the Freddie box set in 2000?

dudeofqueen wrote: K770i, re: >All in all "Mr Bad Guy" should have been Number one in the album charts. Fucking funniest thing I've seen on here in ages. Even if Freddie had offered to PAY people to buy the bloody thing, not enough people would have bought it. Shit, if even the hard-core homosexual community didn't "come out" and support the album by buying it in their *droves*, there's absloutely no hope for it. It was a turd. Freddie knew that. The people that contributed to the album knew that. Polishing it witha new cloth makes it no less of a turd.

dysan wrote: That Never Let Me Down remix is a car crash :(

K770i wrote: @Dudeofqueen You obviously are no Queen fan and Freddie worked fucking hard on Mr Bad Guy he was very proud of that album and it has got some really strong songs on it. Mercury always released strong material and i for one appreciate this album even if you don't.

K770i wrote: @Dudeofqueen You obviously are no Queen fan and Freddie worked fucking hard on Mr Bad Guy he was very proud of that album and it has got some really strong songs on it. Mercury always released strong material and i for one appreciate this album even if you don't.

runner_70 wrote:

cmsdrums wrote:

snelly1 wrote: Listened to the new mix/re-record on vinyl. A few thoughts, it does sound fuller, better instrument separation, updated drums, bass and more prominent vocals with less reverb. However, the mix is at times just WEIRD, things pop up suddenly louder seemingly out of nowhere, some synths seem way to loud, stereo field odd at times....nowhere near as good as the Abbey Road remix. Shame as some of these tracks could be real killers in the right hands.

What is the Abbey Road remix release you refer to? Other than the single release of ‘Living On My Own’ I’m not aware of any other release of Mr Bad Guy than the original version and subsequent remaster in the Freddie box set in 2000?

He is talking about the BEatles Re Release that came out 2 weeks ago not about a Queen/Freddie release

runner_70 wrote: After the first proper listen: * The drums sound flat most of the time as expected by those youtube HD clips.

runner_70 wrote: Nice to have an evening with this amazing voice again. Since QAL I haven't listened to Queen very much because it always upsets me what they are doing now and I don't like Maylor anymore.

FlorianS wrote: I prefer the new mix. I remember being totally disapointed when I first listened to Mr. Bad Guy back in 92. Still the album is far from being a Masterpiece. but now I enjoy Man made Paradise - a song I could not stand for over 27 years.

dysan wrote: Curious amount of editing you do on your posts.

Day dop wrote: This made me laugh (because it's so fucking pathetic)...

runner_70 wrote: Nice to have an evening with this amazing voice again. Since QAL I haven't listened to Queen very much because it always upsets me what they are doing now and I don't like Maylor anymore.

You protest way too much. You know you're never gonna get to suck Lambert's cock no matter how much you obsess over him, right?

dudeofqueen wrote: Day dop, re: >It definitely sounds better. How does a pile of shit sound better than a pile of shit? Maybe it's raining where you are and the sound of the water splashing on your bedroom window is - somehow - improving the sound. Perhaps that's where we've all been going wrong; if we converted each track in to a 192 Kbps MP3 file and then re-constructed the album. Think you might just have stumbled on something......

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote: This made me laugh (because it's so fucking pathetic)...

runner_70 wrote: Nice to have an evening with this amazing voice again. Since QAL I haven't listened to Queen very much because it always upsets me what they are doing now and I don't like Maylor anymore.

u, ou protest way too much. You know you're never gonna get to suck Lambert's cock no matter how much you obsess over him, right?

You can keep your homophobic remarks to yourself you asshole

runner_70 wrote: It sounds patchy and totally flat. Especially IWBTLY's drums now sound like a cheap EDM beat you hear in lame disotheques. Surely not the way Freddie wanted it to sound.

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: It sounds patchy and totally flat. Especially IWBTLY's drums now sound like a cheap EDM beat you hear in lame disotheques. Surely not the way Freddie wanted it to sound.

Again, you're still making the same backward claim ad nauseam. No matter how many times you say the drums on the new version sound "flatter", it doesn't make it any more true.

K770i wrote: Any Abba sound mixing guy would have made a better job 100% Abba's production was always more superior to Queen's which is shocking as Queen were a rock band and Abba a pop group.

aristide1 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: It sounds patchy and totally flat. Especially IWBTLY's drums now sound like a cheap EDM beat you hear in lame disotheques. Surely not the way Freddie wanted it to sound.

Again, you're still making the same backward claim ad nauseam. No matter how many times you say the drums on the new version sound "flatter", it doesn't make it any more true.

Again, you're still making the same backward claim ad nauseam, that this thread is your sole property. No matter how many times you vigorously reply to various "inconvenient" opinions, it doesn't make it any more true.

runner_70 wrote: Lol good one

K770i wrote: @DayDop Runner70 is not moaning about the album but giving his opinion to which we are all entitled too. You seem pretty adamant that you are right and Runner70 is wrong well i agree with Runner70 the album has been spoilt. "Man Made Paradise" was always my favourite track on the album but the new mix makes the drums vanish into the background. There is also a few more tracks that sound limp too. Any Abba sound mixing guy would have made a better job 100% Abba's production was always more superior to Queen's which is shocking as Queen were a rock band and Abba a pop group.

cmsdrums wrote:

K770i wrote: Any Abba sound mixing guy would have made a better job 100% Abba's production was always more superior to Queen's which is shocking as Queen were a rock band and Abba a pop group.

The same ABBA whose drums sound like cardboard boxes?? Not that I'm in any way agreeing with you that ABBA's production was superior than Queen's (some track-by-track instances might exist but the inclusion of "always" makes that a laughable suggestion), but why shouldn't a pop artist sound better than a rock group? Some of the greatest sounding records in any given era have been 'pop' ones.

runner_70 wrote: This daydop guy is the most annoying tool after the AL loonies. It is like "My hamburger restaurant has the best meals on offer" - my gosh

K770i wrote: Seems like guys on here like Daydop and Cmsdrums are the ones who need to wise up. Abba always produced clean cut sound on there records, and no muffling like what Freddie has on his new edition of Mr Bad Guy album, Even "Live Killers" had appalling sound and Roger agreed on that one. Probably the best Queen album with decent clear sound is "The Game" album My opinion so do not say i am talking shit because your not god to judge.

Day dop wrote: Another example (of many) of a rock album with ropy sound quality is Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell. I'm not a Jackson fan but Thriller is a far superior sounding recording. What about all the Lo-fi rock albums that sound like shit compared to well recorded pop albums?

Other Queen albums that have decent enough sound quality are A Day At the Races, News of The World, and the sound quality of Hot Space isn't too bad either.

runner_70 wrote:

Other Queen albums that have decent enough sound quality are A Day At the Races, News of The World, and the sound quality of Hot Space isn't too bad either.

NOTW is the worst sounding Queen album after Jazz. They ent for a less pompous sound but the sound quality is very muddy

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote: Another example (of many) of a rock album with ropy sound quality is Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell. I'm not a Jackson fan but Thriller is a far superior sounding recording. What about all the Lo-fi rock albums that sound like shit compared to well recorded pop albums?

BOOH has a ropy sound quality? What drugs are you on? It ewas produced in the 70's and has one of the best productions of this era. It is a legendary record production AND song wise.How could anyone compare it to Thriller? A pop album that came out years later where the recording equipment was totally different and the music is no pomp rock like Meat Loaf? You self called expert on sound are just a sad joke. I mean it. Pathetic really

runner_70 wrote: BOOH has a ropy sound quality? What drugs are you on? It ewas produced in the 70's and has one of the best productions of this era. It is a legendary record production AND song wise.How could anyone compare it to Thriller? A pop album that came out years later where the recording equipment was totally different and the music is no pomp rock like Meat Loaf? You self called expert on sound are just a sad joke. I mean it. Pathetic really

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Other Queen albums that have decent enough sound quality are A Day At the Races, News of The World, and the sound quality of Hot Space isn't too bad either.

NOTW is the worst sounding Queen album after Jazz. They ent for a less pompous sound but the sound quality is very muddy

You are fucking clueless. News of The World doesn't sound "muddy" whatsoever. Fucking hell, you really have no idea. One could argue that News of the World is a little cold sounding, but "muddy"? No, far from it. Queen albums with sound quality than News of The World (not including live albums). Queen Queen II Sheer Heart Attack A Night At The Opera Jazz A Kind of Magic The Miracle Innuendo Again, that isn't about the music itself. It's about the sound quality, the recording of the album. How clear it is, how punchy it is, how separate the instruments are from one another etc etc etc. Stuff that goes way beyond your tiny brain.

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: BOOH has a ropy sound quality? What drugs are you on? It ewas produced in the 70's and has one of the best productions of this era. It is a legendary record production AND song wise.How could anyone compare it to Thriller? A pop album that came out years later where the recording equipment was totally different and the music is no pomp rock like Meat Loaf? You self called expert on sound are just a sad joke. I mean it. Pathetic really

Bat Out of Hell came out in 1977. And it's well known that the sound quality on that album is poor. 1977, the same year as Fleetwood Mac's Rumours was released. But unlike Bat Out Of Hell, The sound quality on Rumour's is superb. Dark Side of The Moon came out in 1973. FOUR YEARS EARLIER THAN BAT OUT OF HELL. And Dark Side of the Moon is regarded as one of the best rock recordings quality-wise out there. Like I said, the idea that a pop recording can't or shouldn't be as good as a rock recording is absolute nonsense. Thriller is a much better recording than Bat out of Hell (again, it's not about the music, I don't even like Jackson's music. It's about sound quality). Again, Dark Side of the Moon was released in 1973, and that is a WAY better recording than Bat Out of Hell. So come again about Thriller? Do you see how fucking STUPID you're being yet again? How your brain-farts don't hold up under scrutiny? No, of course you don't. You never do. It's as though you are incapable of differentiating the music itself and the sound quality. Why am I not surprised? . Despite yet another bullshit claim from you, that " You self called expert", at no point have I called myself an "expert". That said, I'm clearly more clued up than a complete idiot such as yourself. But it'd be difficult for anyone to be as bad (although you do have some competition here from the likes of aristide1). I'm not surprised you think that Bat Out Of Hell has great sound quality, given that you've been clueless about everything else so far. An uneducated thick as shit clown such as yourself with an ongoing unhealthy obsession over Adam Lambert is not in a good position to call anyone else "pathetic". You are a prime example of the very word.

runner_70 wrote:

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Other Queen albums that have decent enough sound quality are A Day At the Races, News of The World, and the sound quality of Hot Space isn't too bad either.

NOTW is the worst sounding Queen album after Jazz. They ent for a less pompous sound but the sound quality is very muddy

You are fucking clueless. News of The World doesn't sound "muddy" whatsoever. Fucking hell, you really have no idea. One could argue that News of the World is a little cold sounding, but "muddy"? No, far from it. Queen albums with sound quality than News of The World (not including live albums). Queen Queen II Sheer Heart Attack A Night At The Opera Jazz A Kind of Magic The Miracle Innuendo Again, that isn't about the music itself. It's about the sound quality, the recording of the album. How clear it is, how punchy it is, how separate the instruments are from one another etc etc etc. Stuff that goes way beyond your tiny brain.

You rally say Queen 1 sounds like Innuendo? You are a troll of the highest order - better to ognore you from now on as it is getting beyond pathetic

runner_70 wrote: You are just a sad shit stirring wankhole who compares Pink Floyd with Michael Jackson. I guess you own neither one record of both artists you sad dick

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: You are just a sad shit stirring wankhole who compares Pink Floyd with Michael Jackson. I guess you own neither one record of both artists you sad dick

Incorrect yet again. I made no comparison between Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson. I also pointed out that Thriller - a pop album - has superior sound quality to Bat Out of Hell. Then after your brain fart of claiming it was because Thriller was released later, I pointed out that Dark Side of the Moon - an album released FOUR YEARS earlier than Bat Out Of Hell - also has far superior sound quality than Bat Out Of Hell. Derp! And no, I don't own Thriller anymore. I used to, hence I know the sound quality on that album is very good. But you wouldn't have to look far to see what people think of the recording... "Thriller’s cultural and commercial significance is well documented, but Michael Jackson’s masterpiece is also one of the best-recorded and most immaculately produced albums of the 1980s." link As for Dark Side of the Moon, I own a few versions of it. The 30th Anniversary edition on vinyl, and the SACD. I also own the 2011 reissue.

runner_70 wrote: Stop using your wikipedia knowledge you copy and paste. You are already a laughing stock no need to prove it anymore dickhead

Day dop wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Stop using your wikipedia knowledge you copy and paste. You are already a laughing stock no need to prove it anymore dickhead

Incorrect yet again. Find the part I quoted from Wikipedia. Of course you can't. You just spew horseshit. Here's an idea... Why not spend the next few years obsessing over Lambert and harassing his fans online? Your life has been that pointless and meaningless for the last few years, so I'm sure it'll be that pointless and meaningless for the next few years too, if not for the rest of your miserable life. I would say you're a laughing stock, but that'd be like laughing at a train wreck.

runner_70 wrote: Those 3 loones harass themselves.

runner_70 wrote: It is more fun watching a troll being a luaghing stock like yourself.

runner_70 wrote: "Innuendo" has a worse sould quality than NOTW lol - funny shit

runner_70 wrote: Because it hasn't you stupid dick. Anyone with common sense would say this. But live in your dream bubble - byebye

K770i wrote: DayDop : You really do not like other peoples opinion on here do you?

K770i wrote: You have to attack others to justify your previous reply, tut tut.,

K770i wrote: What does it matter what hi-fi system i have it will not make the new mix of Mr Bad Guy any better and it will still sound flat

K770i wrote: and going back to Abba's production and mixing, yes there albums always sounded glossier compared to Queen's albums, i was not comparing Queen with Abba over music content i was merely comparing the sound quality as a whole.

K770i wrote: You may think Abba were boring but they were the best pop band in the 70s by miles.

K770i wrote: Queen are a rock n roll band and represent the very best of there category !

K770i wrote: I think you protest too much because you want to believe you are right and we are all wrong.

K770i wrote: This topic would probably be a 50 / 50 split based on opinions.

K770i wrote: Personally Justin Shirley Smith has butchered Freddie's brilliant Mr Bad Guy album, and should hang his head in shame. Never make me boring, Freddie says, well they just have Fred !

dysan wrote: As you correctly point out I don't have strong feelings either way so I feel I can assume the role of thread referee and point out that a couple of pages back you shared this link: link

K770i wrote: DayDop Its taken 12 pages or dispute on this topic and yet you are still screaming from the rooftops about how punchier you think Mr Bad Guy is to the original.

K770i wrote: Well that is your opinion, but its taken 12 pages of your drivel and you keep repeating again and again........ yawn yawn......... Sorry if you think Abba are boring but Freddie loved them.

K770i wrote: drivel .

K770i wrote: DayDop Its taken 12 pages or dispute on this topic and yet you are still screaming from the rooftops about how punchier you think Mr Bad Guy is to the original. Well that is your opinion, but its taken 12 pages of your drivel and you keep repeating again and again........ yawn yawn......... Sorry if you think Abba are boring but Freddie loved them.

runner_70 wrote: It is better to ignore that prick. Which is what I will do from now on. You should as well

runner_70 wrote: AS soon as he has no stage for his drovel anymore he will use mommy's internet in his basement flat for other purposes than to troll on

K770i wrote: Personally Justin Shirley Smith has butchered Freddie's brilliant Mr Bad Guy album, and should hang his head in shame. Never make me boring, Freddie says, well they just have Fred !

K770i wrote: DayDop Its taken 12 pages or dispute on this topic and yet you are still screaming from the rooftops about how punchier you think Mr Bad Guy is to the original. Well that is your opinion, but its taken 12 pages of your drivel and you keep repeating again and again........ yawn yawn......... Sorry if you think Abba are boring but Freddie loved them.

Dr Magus wrote: I'm looking forward to hearing Mr Bad Guy again.

Dr Magus wrote: I'm looking forward to hearing Mr Bad Guy again.

richrich wrote: Please imagine a man - a chronically disabled and downsyndromed man - hilariously plummeting down a concrete staircase in his rickety wheelchair; his dented, disabled head thrashing side to side as he groans "UHHHH NUUUUR!"

aristide1 wrote:

richrich wrote: Please imagine a man - a chronically disabled and downsyndromed man - hilariously plummeting down a concrete staircase in his rickety wheelchair; his dented, disabled head thrashing side to side as he groans "UHHHH NUUUUR!"

Maybe you should sacrifice your superb literary imagery for the sake of clarity, because most of us are assuming you are talking about Day dop. "RUNN ERR!"

aristide1 wrote:

richrich wrote: Please imagine a man - a chronically disabled and downsyndromed man - hilariously plummeting down a concrete staircase in his rickety wheelchair; his dented, disabled head thrashing side to side as he groans "UHHHH NUUUUR!"

Maybe you should sacrifice your superb literary imagery for the sake of clarity, because most of us are assuming you are talking about Day dop. "RUNN ERR!"

runner_70 wrote:

aristide1 wrote:

richrich wrote: Please imagine a man - a chronically disabled and downsyndromed man - hilariously plummeting down a concrete staircase in his rickety wheelchair; his dented, disabled head thrashing side to side as he groans "UHHHH NUUUUR!"

Maybe you should sacrifice your superb literary imagery for the sake of clarity, because most of us are assuming you are talking about Day dop. "RUNN ERR!"

he surely does

runner_70 wrote: What's funny is the fact that this looney opened a thread and said that I spent too much time on QZ. You write sth on here and 5 seconds later there is another drivel posting from this clown. Funny stuff actually. He surely has a lot time in between listening to his flat MBG remix cd on heavy rotation

Day dop wrote:

aristide1 wrote:

richrich wrote: Please imagine a man - a chronically disabled and downsyndromed man - hilariously plummeting down a concrete staircase in his rickety wheelchair; his dented, disabled head thrashing side to side as he groans "UHHHH NUUUUR!"

Maybe you should sacrifice your superb literary imagery for the sake of clarity, because most of us are assuming you are talking about Day dop. "RUNN ERR!"

Despite this tactic of yours being pointed out previously, aristide1, you're once again pretending you speak on behalf of everyone else. You don't. Your assumption is nothing more than a brain fart. In fact, when it comes to opinion on the new mix, your'e in the minority here. On that basis alone, I'd say the odds of you being right there are zilch. Perhaps you already know that, and you're outright trolling, which is the kind of unhealthy behaviour regularly displayed by Runner_70. Either way, it doesn't look good for you.

aristide1 wrote: Speaking of "regularly displayed unhealthy behaviour", the obsession for yourself made you blind to the fact that I like the new mix. I just don't like you, so I'm in the majority on both aspects. It's the 10th time you use the word "tactic", a sign that you're totally fucked up when it comes to deal with others.

runner_70 wrote: Someone has too much time on his hands. I did not even read this drivel

K770i wrote: DayDop @ 13 pages on and you are still arguing with everyone on here so it seems you are the one who has the problem and not us!

K770i wrote: Go and lie down a do some breathing exercises then if you cannot sleep put Adam Lambert new single on and i guarantee you will be in a deep sleep with in 10 seconds!

K770i wrote: @DayDop Calm down

K770i wrote: we get it you prefer the new drivel version of Mr Bad Guy but ranting over 13 pages of this thread is a bit too much.

K770i wrote: You sound like a very aggressive bully to me.

K770i wrote:Watch Adam "Nellie" Lambert on Strictly BBC1 tomorrow and cheer yourself up with a good laugh as this berk pretends to be a star ha ha ha ha !

richrich wrote: @Day Dop: I can easily imagine you sitting alone at a table in a pub; wearing a plastic set of fake tits whilst smirking at people.

K770i wrote: Ha ha exactly DayDop is a sad cunt who needs to get out more.

K770i wrote: DayDop You have winged for nearly 14 pages now what does that tell you about yourself then? Your like Trump you never give up do you!

K770i wrote: DayDop You have winged for nearly 14 pages now what does that tell you about yourself then?

K770i wrote: Your like Trump you never give up do you!

K770i wrote: DayDop Now what sort of name is that? Makes you sound simple but maybe you just are dude!

richrich wrote: @Day Dop: I can easily imagine you sitting alone at a table in a pub; wearing a plastic set of fake tits whilst smirking at people.

runner_70 wrote:

richrich wrote: @Day Dop: I can easily imagine you sitting alone at a table in a pub; wearing a plastic set of fake tits whilst smirking at people.

You are runner_70 right?