| Nick Browning 29.09.2019 00:26 |
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| kcd123 29.09.2019 01:31 |
Is he... lip syncing? Are they playing to a backing track...? |
| Nick Browning 29.09.2019 01:34 |
kcd123 wrote: Is he... lip syncing? Are they playing to a backing track...?I think it had something to do with the stream. |
| Michael Allred 29.09.2019 02:34 |
There were some delay issues but they were obviously performing live |
| mooghead 29.09.2019 08:29 |
Everytime I go to click on one of the links my hand removes itself from the mouse and punches me in the face. It must be a subconciously preferable thing to do?! |
| dysan 29.09.2019 08:39 |
'Livestream powered by Johnson and Johnson'? I've heard some terrible names for Roger and Brian but that is the worst. |
| kcd123 29.09.2019 10:30 |
Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing? |
| dysan 29.09.2019 10:49 |
Screwy technology innit |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 16:34 |
kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. |
| kcd123 29.09.2019 17:07 |
Thanks for the clarification! I hadn't seen them perform in a while so didn't realize they had expanded the musicians on stage. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 19:02 |
anadamfan wrote:They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 19:03 |
I've seen a couple of tracks from last nite and... YIKES |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 19:11 |
Ale Solan wrote:Roger has been playing better than he did in ages during the last tour. The tempo is up, his vocals sounded great. I agree, that he probably needed the security of a second drummer, when QAL started. But at the moment, Roger doesn‘t need backup.anadamfan wrote:They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 19:13 |
Ale Solan wrote: I've seen a couple of tracks from last nite and... YIKES |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 19:21 |
anadamfan wrote:Roger playing better than in the 70s or 80s? Are you talking about Roger Taylor drummer for the former band Queen?Ale Solan wrote:Roger has been playing better than he did in ages during the last tour. The tempo is up, his vocals sounded great. I agree, that he probably needed the security of a second drummer, when QAL started. But at the moment, Roger doesn‘t need backup.anadamfan wrote:They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 19:37 |
Ale Solan wrote:Yes I do talk about Roger.anadamfan wrote:Roger playing better than in the 70s or 80s? Are you talking about Roger Taylor drummer for the former band Queen?Ale Solan wrote:Roger has been playing better than he did in ages during the last tour. The tempo is up, his vocals sounded great. I agree, that he probably needed the security of a second drummer, when QAL started. But at the moment, Roger doesn‘t need backup.anadamfan wrote:They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. Have you attended or watched their latest tours (during the last 2 years)? He‘s much better than the years before or during the Paul Rodger‘s era. „in ages“ doesn’t equal „better than ever“. But for sure he has lately been playing better than in - let’s say - the last 2 decades. ;) |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 19:45 |
anadamfan wrote: Yes I do. Have you attended or watched their latest tours (during the last 2 years)? He‘s much better than the years before or during the Paul Rodger‘s era. „in ages“ doesn’t equal „better than ever“. But for sure he has lately been playing better than in let’s say, the last 2 decades. ;)Wow, that was... weird. Saying Roger is playing better now is living in a fantasy. I've seen lotta shows from Paul Rodgers (Rodgers, not Rodger) era and also from this ridiculous era. I don't give a fuck about any of those, I only care about Queen with Freddie Mercury. Of course this is not Queen, just a self-tribute. Roger was a great drummer, now, he should retire with some dignity. Same for Brian. I understand you're a "fan" of Adam Lambert, laughable at some point. You could have chosen to be a fan of Queen or Radiohead or U2 but no... you're an Adam Lambert fan. Now I realize why you see things are not there like Roger playing "better" now than in the "last 20 years". |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 20:01 |
Ale Solan wrote:Wow. I think, we won‘t agree on anything here. Yes, I‘m an Adam fan. I‘m also a Queen fan. Oh, I have seen U2 as well. And I really follow a few other bands and musicians as well.anadamfan wrote:Wow, that was... weird. Saying Roger is playing better now is living in a fantasy. I've seen lotta shows from Paul Rodgers (Rodgers, not Rodger) era and also from this ridiculous era. I don't give a fuck about any of those, I only care about Queen with Freddie Mercury. Of course this is not Queen, just a self-tribute. Roger was a great drummer, now, he should retire with some dignity. Same for Brian. I understand you're a "fan" of Adam Lambert, laughable at some point. You could have chosen to be a fan of Queen or Radiohead or U2 but no... you're an Adam Lambert fan. Now I realize why you see things are not there like Roger playing "better" now than the "last 20 years".Ale Solan wrote:Yes I do. Have you attended or watched their latest tours (during the last 2 years)? He‘s much better than the years before or during the Paul Rodger‘s era. „in ages“ doesn’t equal „better than ever“. But for sure he has lately been playing better than in let’s say, the last 2 decades. ;)anadamfan wrote:Roger playing better than in the 70s or 80s? Are you talking about Roger Taylor drummer for the former band Queen?Ale Solan wrote:Roger has been playing better than he did in ages during the last tour. The tempo is up, his vocals sounded great. I agree, that he probably needed the security of a second drummer, when QAL started. But at the moment, Roger doesn‘t need backup.anadamfan wrote:They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.kcd123 wrote: Why were their two drummers on stage? That whole performance was just bizarre on many levels. There were several times where neither Adam, Roger nor Brian were singing and yet we could hear vocals. Were the keyboardist/second drummer doing heavy backup singing?Yes, they are all singing back-up vocals. And they can sing pretty well. ;) The second „drummer“ is playing percussions for a fuller sound. That job was originally Rufus Taylor‘s. Since the band liked the sound with an additional drummer / percussionist, they hired Tyler Warren, drummer on Queen‘s Extravaganza, to take over, when Rufus became the drummer for The Darkness. You don’t like Q+AL. You don’t follow them and think Brian and Roger should retire. That’s your opinion. But why the fuck do you think, you know better, how Roger has been playing lately than I? Because I‘m an Adam fan? Man, you should get down from your high horse... I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others. |
| dysan 29.09.2019 20:08 |
There's such large chunks of previous posts being quoted it's difficult to work this out. So the person who has been a fan for years thinks they should quit because they're shit, and the person who is into AL thinks they should continue because they're better than ever. Is this correct? |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:10 |
dysan wrote: There's such large chunks of previous posts being quoted it's difficult to work this out. So the person who has been a fan for years thinks they should quit because they're shit, and the person who is into AL thinks they should continue because they're better than ever. Is this correct?lol, yes, basically that |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:12 |
anadamfan wrote: Wow. I think, we won‘t agree on anything here. Yes, I‘m an Adam fan. I‘m also a Queen fan. Oh, I have seen U2 as well. And I really follow a few other bands and musicians as well. You don’t like Q+AL. You don’t follow them and think Brian and Roger should retire. That’s your opinion. But why the fuck do you think, you know better, how Roger has been playing lately than I? Because I‘m an Adam fan? Man, you should get down from your high horse... I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others.A Queen fan? lol yeah, right... "I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others." Yes, there are other deaf fans as you that say the same, I'm aware of that. One little question, are you boy or a girl? or an old lady? |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 20:18 |
dysan wrote: There's such large chunks of previous posts being quoted it's difficult to work this out. So the person who has been a fan for years thinks they should quit because they're shit, and the person who is into AL thinks they should continue because they're better than ever. Is this correct?No. The person, who’s into AL, is also into Queen and things that Roger doesn‘t necessarily need a back-up drummer at the moment, because he has been playing better this past year than he had in one or two decades. The fan who has been a fan for years seems to know better, without following the tours. |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 20:23 |
Ale Solan wrote: A Queen fan? lol yeah, right... "I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others." Yes, there are other deaf fans as you that say the same, I'm aware of that. One little question, are you boy or a girl? or an old lady?All I know, is that you act like an arsehole full of prejudices against AL fans. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:25 |
anadamfan wrote:I've seen both tours, fucking imbecile, don't you ever read?dysan wrote: There's such large chunks of previous posts being quoted it's difficult to work this out. So the person who has been a fan for years thinks they should quit because they're shit, and the person who is into AL thinks they should continue because they're better than ever. Is this correct?No. The person, who’s into AL, is also into Queen and things that Roger doesn‘t necessarily need a back-up drummer at the moment, because he has been playing better this past year than he had in one or two decades. The fan who has been a fan for years seems to know better, without following the tours. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:26 |
anadamfan wrote:You didn't answer my question, retard.Ale Solan wrote: A Queen fan? lol yeah, right... "I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others." Yes, there are other deaf fans as you that say the same, I'm aware of that. One little question, are you boy or a girl? or an old lady?All I know, is that you act like an arsehole full of prejudices against AL fans. |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 20:27 |
Ale Solan wrote:Why should I? I‘m not looking for a date.anadamfan wrote:You didn't answer my question, retard.Ale Solan wrote: A Queen fan? lol yeah, right... "I‘m not the only fan saying that. Ask others." Yes, there are other deaf fans as you that say the same, I'm aware of that. One little question, are you boy or a girl? or an old lady?All I know, is that you act like an arsehole full of prejudices against AL fans. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:30 |
anadamfan wrote: Why should I? I‘m not looking for a date.Me neither, specially not with an AL fan... but what do you have to hide? |
| anadamfan 29.09.2019 20:36 |
Ale Solan wrote:I wanted to talk about the show yesterday. Apparently you don’t, so I will stop this here.anadamfan wrote: Why should I? I‘m not looking for a date.Me neither, specially not with an AL fan... but what do you have to hide? |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 20:47 |
anadamfan wrote:There was a show yesterday? I only saw (part of) a cheap cabaret show with a pathetic clown screaming more than singing LOLAle Solan wrote:I wanted to talk about the show yesterday. Apparently you don’t, so I will stop this here.anadamfan wrote: Why should I? I‘m not looking for a date.Me neither, specially not with an AL fan... but what do you have to hide? |
| kcd123 29.09.2019 22:22 |
Okay, but back to the show last night: Does anyone know what the technical difficulty was that delayed them going on? Brian said something about circumstances "being so difficult". Also, side question, does AL think that "Somebody to Love" was written with overtly sexual overtones? Because last night's performance made me think that he does. |
| Ale Solan 29.09.2019 23:51 |
kcd123 wrote: Also, side question, does AL think that "Somebody to Love" was written with overtly sexual overtones? Because last night's performance made me think that he does.What can you expect from that buffoon? |
| rockchic65 30.09.2019 05:52 |
kcd123 wrote: Okay, but back to the show last night: Does anyone know what the technical difficulty was that delayed them going on? Brian said something about circumstances "being so difficult". Also, side question, does AL think that "Somebody to Love" was written with overtly sexual overtones? Because last night's performance made me think that he does.Someone there said that because Queen use various things on their stage like the trap door etc it was taking longer than anticipated getting everything set up and working but not sure if that's the case or just someone's theory. As to Adam he's looked into all the songs and meanings as far as he could without Freddie being there to ask but he's not an imitator so he interprets the songs from his own perspective and also that's just the kind of performer he is, he's not literally interpreting everything some of it's just having fun and maybe he wasn't thinking about the fact it was being televised and just did what he would in their usual shows. |
| dysan 30.09.2019 07:03 |
The only thing that puts me off is the rap hand gestures. Seems a bit silly. The cabaret voice works on bits of it so it's all pros and cons. I'm glad he's toned down the Gary Glitter platforms and shoulder pads. Perhaps that's why they have 2 drummers. Glitter Band vibe. |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2019 14:24 |
Ale Solan wrote: They use a second drummer because Roger can't play like he used to and he's going slightly deaf, the fuller sound it's an excuse.It ain't 1977 anymore, but he sure is doing better than guys like Alan White these days. These guys are in their 70s and well past retirement age. We should be so lucky they're on the road at all, giving up time with their grandkids so that people can enjoy a show for two hours. Rog is playing just fine. Better than the Paul Rodgers era for sure. The tempos are good, and his chops are in great shape. Listen to the fill part way through the first solo in I Want It All - just spotless. |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2019 15:36 |
As for the rest of the complaints in the various threads here... No, they're not playing to tracks. It was clearly a delay issue with the broadcast, and it was sorted out within seconds. Props to the tech team - the pressure these guys are under in such circumstances is monumental. Some of you forum troglodytes know so little about music, yet are so quick to assume the worst about musicians that you apparently love (or once loved). Like it or not, this band sounds polished and professional, despite having still not yet pulled off a resurrection. Apart from U2, every band that goes back to the 70s has had membership changes. DEAL WITH IT. Queen are the biggest band in the world right now despite having not been a creative force for nearly three decades. And shows like this are only cementing that reality, not somehow inhibiting it. Spending hours upon hours of your spare time trying to convince people otherwise says a whole lot more about you than it does about them. |
| Donna13 30.09.2019 22:00 |
Not to be irritating, but ... I am still curious. How do we know for sure it was just the broadcast causing the echo if nobody from here was there and we don’t know what Brian meant by “the difficulties”? I know they are playing live (and I’ve been to many shows), but I also know that they use recordings as part of the show: Freddie’s appearance at the end of Love of My Life, and the operatic section of Bohemian Rhapsody and they somehow accomplish this perfectly. So when the echo mishap occurred I assumed that it had something to do with a recording that was set in motion at its normal time (to enhance the sound?) and that Adam’s delay with his vocals caused the “situation”, and then the band kept playing what they were playing because they couldn’t stop at that point. I’m not saying my theory is correct, but just that when it happened, that is what I thought might be happening. I’m completely ignorant of sound systems and broadcasting, but when it happened, I felt anxious for them. I was at the DC show when all sound was lost during Fat Bottomed Girls and they just kept playing until it was fixed. I’m just glad it is not me up there - under pressure. Ha. I thought it was a great performance. There is no way Roger will retire. He is a rock star. He needs to perform. Same with Brian. There is enough quality time for grandchildren and going on stage. And besides, their family members must get a kick out of seeing them perform. We are so very lucky to get to see them on stage. |
| DeHavilland 30.09.2019 22:03 |
It looked to me like they were having trouble with the hi-hat on the drum kit. Roger's drum technician was crouched next to it for the whole show, looked like he was holding one of the tripod legs in place, it was pretty wobbly. (But maybe this is normal and it was just noticeable because of all the close-up camera angles?) |
| Martin Packer 01.10.2019 10:14 |
On the "Roger's kit problem" point this is NOT their usual stage. For example, no runway. So maybe his riser had to be smaller than usual and the hi-hat kept moving to the edge of it. |
| dysan 01.10.2019 10:21 |
Roger generally plays better when a man in shorts is rubbing his crotch on his cymbal stands. Now they just hire a guy to do that. |
| Dr Magus 01.10.2019 12:17 |
In the old days Crystal would always clear up any of Roger's droppings during the show. Nowadays his mess just gets hurled into the stage fan. |
| cmsdrums 01.10.2019 16:19 |
Roger’s drum tec will always be just down to his left on all shows - nothing unusual about this (unless he was having to hold the hi hat stand), but he would be there anyway. |
| rockchic65 01.10.2019 18:02 |
DeHavilland wrote: It looked to me like they were having trouble with the hi-hat on the drum kit. Roger's drum technician was crouched next to it for the whole show, looked like he was holding one of the tripod legs in place, it was pretty wobbly. (But maybe this is normal and it was just noticeable because of all the close-up camera angles?)He always sits next to the drums - link |
| anadamfan 01.10.2019 18:05 |
rockchic65 wrote:And I‘m always wondering: What is he doing there?DeHavilland wrote: It looked to me like they were having trouble with the hi-hat on the drum kit. Roger's drum technician was crouched next to it for the whole show, looked like he was holding one of the tripod legs in place, it was pretty wobbly. (But maybe this is normal and it was just noticeable because of all the close-up camera angles?)He always sits next to the drums - link As much as I like Roger, I don’t want THAT job.... |
| DeHavilland 01.10.2019 22:21 |
What is he doing down there? I was at a show a few months back where Roger's monitor popped out of his ear and he was in there right away to stick it back in, but I wasn't sitting at an angle to notice if he was *right* there or not. He looked much closer at Global Citizen than he does in the video, but I guess that's just the confined set up of the kit. |
| dp78 02.10.2019 05:00 |
Hey i can answer on the "difficulties" as I was there on Saturday. On Don't Stop Me now, the sound started going in and out and at one point it did look like Adam was lip syncing although I think it also may have been a delay issue. It just started to look bizarre as they seemed to be at different points in the song and the audience was confused. The concert in general was running very late and by the time Queen's set was about to start, the stage was not ready (they announced Rami Malek to introduce them but instead played Global Citizen videos they had already played for another 20 min). My guess is there was pressure to start when the sound wasn't 100% ready and it showed. However, after DSMN, they seemed to get it together. But overall, good set. |
| rockchic65 02.10.2019 09:41 |
dp78 wrote: Hey i can answer on the "difficulties" as I was there on Saturday. On Don't Stop Me now, the sound started going in and out and at one point it did look like Adam was lip syncing although I think it also may have been a delay issue. It just started to look bizarre as they seemed to be at different points in the song and the audience was confused. The concert in general was running very late and by the time Queen's set was about to start, the stage was not ready (they announced Rami Malek to introduce them but instead played Global Citizen videos they had already played for another 20 min). My guess is there was pressure to start when the sound wasn't 100% ready and it showed. However, after DSMN, they seemed to get it together. But overall, good set.I heard Alicia Keys stayed on longer than she was supposed to and that held up the sound checking and they had to just go on, no idea if that's true but a few people who were there mentioned it. I doubt Adam would lip sync but if there was a sound delay it could make it look like that. He hates the idea of lip syncing and it's not something he's good at, he said the hardest part of doing a video is making it look like you'rehe's actually singing and that's with the benefit of being able to play around with it afterwards, live it would be a nightmare. |
| dp78 02.10.2019 23:03 |
Yeah i don't think he was-i know that was a rumor some people in the audience and i think on here mentioned but it looked more like a sound/delay issues. Not sure about Alicia Keyes' set but I can say David Gray was also limited to one song just before Queen and I can't believe he would have come to just do the one so it was probably a cut. |
| MisterCosmicc 04.10.2019 11:34 |
“he said the hardest part of doing a video is making it look like you'rehe's actually singing” That’s funny... when Freddie filmed videos he DID sing along to the music. You can see his spit at times as he sings. I’m not sure why Adam would just be silent during the filming of his videos... |
| rockchic65 04.10.2019 18:32 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: “he said the hardest part of doing a video is making it look like you'rehe's actually singing” That’s funny... when Freddie filmed videos he DID sing along to the music. You can see his spit at times as he sings. I’m not sure why Adam would just be silent during the filming of his videos...Maybe he does sing along to make it look more authentic I know he did on Time for Miracles but he's definitely not the best at lip syncing and since he changes lyrics quite often he'd have a hard time remembering which one he was meant to be doing so I think it would be pretty obvious real quick if he started lip syncing in live shows. |
| runner_70 04.10.2019 19:18 |
Why is Lamebird discussed on the serious discussion board??????????? |
| The Fairy King 07.10.2019 03:36 |
runner_70 wrote: Why is Lamebird discussed on the serious discussion board???????????Because fuck you, that's why! |
| Jfolk 26.01.2020 15:40 |
Hi - I’m late to this convo. I was at the concert and something was DEF not right. There were issues with BoRhap too. Not certain they were playing the whole time - the DSMN issue was even worse live than it was on air (I watched a million times after attending). Rough. And still not over it (obv since I’m googling it). Hard to believe the internet didn’t talk about it more |
| anadamfan 26.01.2020 18:10 |
They were playing live. They always do. But there were issues with the sound and apparently at one point during DSMN - when the video sequences on the screens set in - a tape (usually for light/video rehearsals) was started. When you have been in the audience you got to hear this. I was sitting in front of my computer and heard the live feed played by the band. And in the background the tape, which was also not in sync, so the whole performance looked from the audience like a very bad playback. For me it was fine - apart from the music from that odd tape. |