| GB: Queen Archivist 24.09.2019 13:40 |
Dear Queenzoners Greg Brooks here. Co-editor compiler of this book. Not much has changed here since I last looked, probably 3 or 4 years ago, and that's why many good people have inevitably drifted away from this website over the years, towards forums with fairer balance, perceptive observations, consistently serious debate, relevant helpful informative findings, constructive and considered comment. In your various comments about the book, I note I have been referred to as a fat bastard and lazy, etc, which is fine, and to be expected here, but it has nothing to do with the book or anything else. It's just tedious. Why would anyone serious feel compelled to offer anything serious here? I'm saying this not because it bothers me greatly - I'm not here enough for anything written about me to bother me - but because if all that tedious puerile crap was put aside, and people commented only on Queen, or Freddie, and the matters in hand, and offered interesting original refreshing comment, rather than inane drivel (too often) this forum would be the nice place to be that it once was, when it began... before the plebs spoilt it for everyone else, and continue to. There are some good people here, obviously, with good and interesting things to say, but they're posting to individuals desperate to find error and to take the piss or be insulting... all the while offering NOTHING interesting or remotely creative of their own of course. Such is life in the world of certain people who have no real lives to speak about, so mock others. I've always found people like that large irritating, and I wonder what purpose they serve! Answers on a postcard please, to.... ANYWAY... here is some considered, thought-about, information on the book, to answer the points most often mentioned. I hope it helps... Why didn't we offer the source for EVERY quote? We would have loved to do that - if it were possible - but it wasn't, unless you wanted to see a complete mass and mess of source stats and dates at the back of the book, which would have been even more boring and tedious than a post by dudeofqueen. As we said in the book's Introduction, Freddie's quotes for each subject covered were compiled and edited from MANY sources, not just one or two, or even 6 or 7. It was often the case that we took everything he said about a given subject, from 30 or 40 or more source interviews, spanning his entire career, not just one part of it, then pieced together the most informative, flowing, articulate, logical, consistent sentence that was possible to achieve. It wasn't easy because Freddie flitted about all over the place in a typical interview. For example, taking a random paragraph of FM comment from... let's say Chapter 6, if we were to offer details of the source for EVERYTHING there, gathered from 20 years of interview encounters with 15 or 50 different people, we'd have to put... Chapter 6. Paragraph 1. Sentences 1, 3, 4 and 7: taken from Blah Blah interview with John Smith, Radio XYZ, USA, November 1976. Sentences 2, 5, 12, 16 and 21: taken from Blah Blah interview, with Pete Peters, Radio ABC, Japan, May 1982. Sentences 14 from blah blah, Norway 1976, Sentences 24 from blah blah, France 1979, and so on. And then... Chapter 6. Paragraph 2. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 3. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 4. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 5. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 6. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 7. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 8. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Right up to Paragraph 78 of Chapter 6. Then the 93 paragraphs of Chapter 7 Then the 37 paragraphs of Chapter 8 Then the 42 paragraphs of Chapter 9 Then the 50 paragraphs of Chapter 10 Then the 29 paragraphs of Chapter 11 And so on... Until EVERY word, every sentence, or indeed half sentence, in every paragraph, was given a source. Some paragraphs would need masses of source details, while other entire paragraphs will have come from only one source. Over all, realistically, to offer the reader accurate details of where every word came from; every sentence in all 930 paragraphs over 194 pages, would have been a mass of ugly tedious text, probably spawning 30 or 40 pages, if we were to do it thoroughly. Is that REALLY what you want? To do so would have added a tenth more cost to the book, and people would have complained about that too. We wanted (and succeeded) in keeping the book price under £10. Before anyone says this... let me say... we did consider offering a huge list of the 200-300 sources that our book represents, and giving each source a unique number - such as David Wigg (33), Ray Coleman (28), NME (1975) (12), Circus Magazine (1975) (17), Unknown Source (1) and then adding a number to every sentence and paragraph. But can you imagine how horrible that would look? Ultimately... we simply offered Freddie's thoughts and opinions delivered in his own words. No more, no less. Can you imagine if Freddie were around today, what he'd say if we asked, "Should we inform the readers of the origins of EVERY single word you utter in this book, Freddie?" I don't think he would give a damn about that. All that surely matters is that we have Freddie's words gathered together in ONE place, for you to read and hopefully enjoy. Is it so essential to know which utterances were to Mary Turner in 1984, which were to Mike Read in 1989, or Jo Bloggs in Italy, and which were from a 1975 radio interview? Imagine if movie makers did that with every movie they made. The Sources list for Oliver Stone's JFK movie would have been 7,000 sources long !!! And imagine if recording artists did that for every song they released; offering you the listener details of the origins of each line of song lyric and which exact session it came from, and when.... Here's how the sleeve for Free's classic single ALL RIGHT NOW might have looked. There she stood (take 6, 22/5/72) in the street (take 2, 8/5/72) Smiling from her head to her feet (take 22, 9/6/72) I said hey, what is this (take 11 or 12, 26/5/72) Now baby (take 3, 10/5/72), maybe she's in need of a kiss (take 16, 19/5/72) I said hey, what's your name baby (exact take unknown, probably 17 or 18) Maybe we (take 6, 22/5/72) can see things the same (take 22, 9/6/72) Now don't you wait or hesitate (take 6, 22/5/72) Let's move before (take 7, 22/5/72) they raise the parking rate (take unknown) All right now (take 11, 26/5/72) baby, it's all right now (take 3, 10/5/72 and take 28) All right now baby, it's all right now (takes 6, 7 and 22, dates already given) My God! How boring it would be to be told the origins of literally EVERY single line of that work. We did not want the detail, the behind the scenes trivia, to get in the way of what Freddie had to say. It's what he said that mattered, not who he said it to, or when. If there had been perhaps 4 or 4 sources per page, we may well have offered those details, but where it was 30 or 40 or more.... no. That would have been Ever Boring! |
| MyHumanZoo 24.09.2019 14:14 |
Hi Greg! Thanks so much for this book, I thought it was fantastic! I have read, and re-read, most of the books out there on Freddie and Queen, and for me this was the best. It really details how he thought about many things and was so well put-together. I can’t imagine the painstaking process of pulling all his interviews and comments and coordinating them so well. As for this site, I saw it referenced somewhere so I came and joined, excited to think there was another place to enjoy discussion on my favorite topic. When I saw the cruelty and disgusting language, etc. it shocked me. This is my first (and most likely last, LOL!) post here. Thank you again, I’m sure there are many of us out here that love what you’ve done! |
| Negative Creep 24.09.2019 14:16 |
Big points for creating a new account to reply to your own tedious post. Bravo! |
| cmsdrums 24.09.2019 14:33 |
Thanks - this does at least help explain why you made those decisions. Can you confirm if any of the quotes used were changed in any way - i.e. edited by you or the team working on the book, or if they are all absolutely verbatim? Thanks. |
| Stick 24.09.2019 14:38 |
Hey Greg, just wanted to say thanks for all your work throughout the years. |
| GB: Queen Archivist 24.09.2019 15:12 |
Thank you MyHumanZoo, I think you put that extremely well and I completely agree. Thanks also Stick; that's much appreciated. CMSDRUMS... yes we attempted to keep Freddie's words verbatim as he said them... delivery too. We just tidied it a bit, removing "Um" and "Ah" and hesitation. And remember, Freddie often began a sentence without ever finished it, or else he changed his mind 6 or 7 times pers sentence and began numerous points without ever finishing any of them. Hence we had to edit, tidy and restructure. But it is Freddie verbatim as much as that is possible. Negative Creep's comments just prove 100% what I said in my post. Dick Heads like that are why good people like MyHumanZoo will only post here ONCE, then drift away from QZ and away from idiots like him. How could I be replying "to my own tedious post" if this is my first and ONLY post in three years? If he had a brain, he'd be a danger to himself and others. As it is, he's just a tedious negative creep with nothing interesting to say. I bet this has been said to him many times in his life ! |
| Kuijpy 24.09.2019 15:48 |
Oh no |
| Stick 24.09.2019 16:05 |
Greg, not to steer this topic away from the book but just wanted to take the opportunity to ask if there is any progress on a Brian May boxset like The Lot from Roger? |
| RS_Protos 24.09.2019 16:37 |
Not much has changed from you either! Crappy way to start your comments and as always crappy products! |
| Negative Creep 24.09.2019 16:53 |
You clearly made the account up yourself. You deserve nothing but negative responses to the rants/drivel you post here - it's always the same, you just moan about this forum yet strangely don't post on the official Queen forum. Strange that. |
| stevelondon20 24.09.2019 17:52 |
Cheers Greg. Great to see you back here mate! |
| Jake12 24.09.2019 18:44 |
Hey Greg it’s Jake! I will always back you up when it comes to these projects! I bought the book since I did miss out on the first time and I loved it! I really did! Also happy with the projects as of late and understand you can’t please everyone! Also very excited for the Never Boring box set! |
| dudeofqueen 24.09.2019 19:29 |
So, effectively, the process of re-writing history and making stuff up has been continued on from the "Barcelona" butchering and the fiction which is that film to this book with the pace to be maintained by the upcoming "Mr Bad Guy" re-hash. Brilliant; well done. |
| ianlasseter 24.09.2019 20:39 |
Hi Greg.So glad to see you posting here again.There are too many people here who retort to using foul and abusive language to other members,it just sums up their mentality(or lack of it).The book looks really good,and am looking forward to reading it at some point.I can only assume that this has taken many hours/days/months of painstaking work.Yet could they do a better job? |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 25.09.2019 01:05 |
Ah yes, spend two full paragraphs bitching about the bitching, then the rest of your post with bitching about wanting actual sources. I guess you've never heard of footnotes. It's not that difficult. Several other books use them; you should try them some time. |
| Makka 25.09.2019 03:29 |
Geez there's some sour cunts on here! :( |
| Anton3283 25.09.2019 04:25 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Dear Queenzoners Greg Brooks here. Co-editor compiler of this book. Not much has changed here since I last looked, probably 3 or 4 years ago, and that's why many good people have inevitably drifted away from this website over the years, towards forums with fairer balance, perceptive observations, consistently serious debate, relevant helpful informative findings, constructive and considered comment. In your various comments about the book, I note I have been referred to as a fat bastard and lazy, etc, which is fine, and to be expected here, but it has nothing to do with the book or anything else. It's just tedious. Why would anyone serious feel compelled to offer anything serious here? I'm saying this not because it bothers me greatly - I'm not here enough for anything written about me to bother me - but because if all that tedious puerile crap was put aside, and people commented only on Queen, or Freddie, and the matters in hand, and offered interesting original refreshing comment, rather than inane drivel (too often) this forum would be the nice place to be that it once was, when it began... before the plebs spoilt it for everyone else, and continue to. There are some good people here, obviously, with good and interesting things to say, but they're posting to individuals desperate to find error and to take the piss or be insulting... all the while offering NOTHING interesting or remotely creative of their own of course. Such is life in the world of certain people who have no real lives to speak about, so mock others. I've always found people like that large irritating, and I wonder what purpose they serve! Answers on a postcard please, to.... ANYWAY... here is some considered, thought-about, information on the book, to answer the points most often mentioned. I hope it helps... Why didn't we offer the source for EVERY quote? We would have loved to do that - if it were possible - but it wasn't, unless you wanted to see a complete mass and mess of source stats and dates at the back of the book, which would have been even more boring and tedious than a post by dudeofqueen. As we said in the book's Introduction, Freddie's quotes for each subject covered were compiled and edited from MANY sources, not just one or two, or even 6 or 7. It was often the case that we took everything he said about a given subject, from 30 or 40 or more source interviews, spanning his entire career, not just one part of it, then pieced together the most informative, flowing, articulate, logical, consistent sentence that was possible to achieve. It wasn't easy because Freddie flitted about all over the place in a typical interview. For example, taking a random paragraph of FM comment from... let's say Chapter 6, if we were to offer details of the source for EVERYTHING there, gathered from 20 years of interview encounters with 15 or 50 different people, we'd have to put... Chapter 6. Paragraph 1. Sentences 1, 3, 4 and 7: taken from Blah Blah interview with John Smith, Radio XYZ, USA, November 1976. Sentences 2, 5, 12, 16 and 21: taken from Blah Blah interview, with Pete Peters, Radio ABC, Japan, May 1982. Sentences 14 from blah blah, Norway 1976, Sentences 24 from blah blah, France 1979, and so on. And then... Chapter 6. Paragraph 2. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 3. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 4. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 5. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 6. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 7. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Chapter 6. Paragraph 8. Sentences 1, 2, 3.... 30 Right up to Paragraph 78 of Chapter 6. Then the 93 paragraphs of Chapter 7 Then the 37 paragraphs of Chapter 8 Then the 42 paragraphs of Chapter 9 Then the 50 paragraphs of Chapter 10 Then the 29 paragraphs of Chapter 11 And so on... Until EVERY word, every sentence, or indeed half sentence, in every paragraph, was given a source. Some paragraphs would need masses of source details, while other entire paragraphs will have come from only one source. Over all, realistically, to offer the reader accurate details of where every word came from; every sentence in all 930 paragraphs over 194 pages, would have been a mass of ugly tedious text, probably spawning 30 or 40 pages, if we were to do it thoroughly. Is that REALLY what you want? To do so would have added a tenth more cost to the book, and people would have complained about that too. We wanted (and succeeded) in keeping the book price under £10. Before anyone says this... let me say... we did consider offering a huge list of the 200-300 sources that our book represents, and giving each source a unique number - such as David Wigg (33), Ray Coleman (28), NME (1975) (12), Circus Magazine (1975) (17), Unknown Source (1) and then adding a number to every sentence and paragraph. But can you imagine how horrible that would look? Ultimately... we simply offered Freddie's thoughts and opinions delivered in his own words. No more, no less. Can you imagine if Freddie were around today, what he'd say if we asked, "Should we inform the readers of the origins of EVERY single word you utter in this book, Freddie?" I don't think he would give a damn about that. All that surely matters is that we have Freddie's words gathered together in ONE place, for you to read and hopefully enjoy. Is it so essential to know which utterances were to Mary Turner in 1984, which were to Mike Read in 1989, or Jo Bloggs in Italy, and which were from a 1975 radio interview? Imagine if movie makers did that with every movie they made. The Sources list for Oliver Stone's JFK movie would have been 7,000 sources long !!! And imagine if recording artists did that for every song they released; offering you the listener details of the origins of each line of song lyric and which exact session it came from, and when.... Here's how the sleeve for Free's classic single ALL RIGHT NOW might have looked. There she stood (take 6, 22/5/72) in the street (take 2, 8/5/72) Smiling from her head to her feet (take 22, 9/6/72) I said hey, what is this (take 11 or 12, 26/5/72) Now baby (take 3, 10/5/72), maybe she's in need of a kiss (take 16, 19/5/72) I said hey, what's your name baby (exact take unknown, probably 17 or 18) Maybe we (take 6, 22/5/72) can see things the same (take 22, 9/6/72) Now don't you wait or hesitate (take 6, 22/5/72) Let's move before (take 7, 22/5/72) they raise the parking rate (take unknown) All right now (take 11, 26/5/72) baby, it's all right now (take 3, 10/5/72 and take 28) All right now baby, it's all right now (takes 6, 7 and 22, dates already given) My God! How boring it would be to be told the origins of literally EVERY single line of that work. We did not want the detail, the behind the scenes trivia, to get in the way of what Freddie had to say. It's what he said that mattered, not who he said it to, or when. If there had been perhaps 4 or 4 sources per page, we may well have offered those details, but where it was 30 or 40 or more.... no. That would have been Ever Boring!I believe you did a great job but sorry Greg, We most wanted Live Killers box Moreover, they even deprived us of the Miracle box set |
| Kuijpy 25.09.2019 07:11 |
Greg, lame asshole, its time for a nice boxset with demos, outtakes. Greatest videohits 3? All the videos + making offs in BluRay Im not sucking your balls just like mostly everyone here. Its time for some change!!! |
| SweetCarolina 25.09.2019 10:27 |
NObody here likes Greg, but when he's posting something ooh maaan,,, Everybody is licking his ass, please stop it. |
| Cruella de Vil 25.09.2019 10:35 |
Oh please Kuijpy (and others), the playground is down the road, just go play in the dirt like nice children. Mr Brooks, good luck to you in what you do and playing the challenging, frustrating but I expect richly rewarding and exciting role that you have. People seem to forget that you are essentially an employee of Queen Productions and not in anyway a Jim Beach, Roger, John or Brian. Thank you for what you have done over many years. Now leave this place, and go back to your loved ones and the life that really matters. Have a nice day. |
| MrFunster 25.09.2019 12:12 |
It s now time to close QUEENZONE administrator. !!! ----------------------------------------------------- WHAT A BRAINLESS People here for just personal attacking Greg . Lots of opinions have nothing to do with Queen. But just frustrations ! Thank you Greg for all your efforts.I know you work hard for it and I can imagine you can't release products without input / permission of Brian/Roger and Jim. Unfortunately this isn't the forum where they show some respect. What a disgrace. I think the time has changed a little. More boxes of queen will come out sooner than later. I really hate the negativity on this forum.Onbelievable these people still exists. Have a fucking nice day everybody !!! |
| Sunshine 25.09.2019 13:11 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Dear Queenzoners Greg Brooks here. Co-editor compiler of this book. Not much has changed here since I last looked, probably 3 or 4 years ago, and that's why many good people have inevitably drifted away from this website over the years, towards forums with fairer balance, perceptive observations, consistently serious debate, relevant helpful informative findings, constructive and considered comment. In your various comments about the book, I note I have been referred to as a fat bastard and lazy, etc, which is fine, and to be expected here, but it has nothing to do with the book or anything else. It's just tedious. Why would anyone serious feel compelled to offer anything serious here? I'm saying this not because it bothers me greatly - I'm not here enough for anything written about me to bother me - but because if all that tedious puerile crap was put aside, and people commented only on Queen, or Freddie, and the matters in hand, and offered interesting original refreshing comment, rather than inane drivel (too often) this forum would be the nice place to be that it once was, when it began... before the plebs spoilt it for everyone else, and continue to. There are some good people here, obviously, with good and interesting things to say, but they're posting to individuals desperate to find error and to take the piss or be insulting... all the while offering NOTHING interesting or remotely creative of their own of course. Such is life in the world of certain people who have no real lives to speak about, so mock others. I've always found people like that large irritating, and I wonder what purpose they serve! Answers on a postcard please, to....Thank you for your efforts in restoring Queen's and Freddie's legacy. Not only for this book that I haven't read yet but also all the countless other projects. For example, I was part of the Innuendo outtakes sessions in Metropolis studios last year and I can not thank you enough for this beautiful experience. Without you, this would not have been possible. I suggest to ignore all the negative comments here and only react in a constructive way, even though the level you receive is abominable. I believe you should stop calling other people names and stop reacting on their childish comments. It doesn't make you any better with the passive aggressive comments in this opening posts. You don't need to defend yourself, you are the archivist and do not own Queen Productions. Few people seem to understand that. Additionally, you are representing Queen Productions and need to take that responsibility by securing constructive posts. Keep up the great work and look forward to see more of great Queen stuff. Thank you for everything you have accomplished. |
| dudeofqueen 25.09.2019 13:26 |
Sunshine, re: >You don't need to defend yourself, you are the archivist and do not own Queen Productions. Few people seem to understand that. > >Additionally, you are representing Queen Productions and need to take that responsibility by securing constructive posts. > >Keep up the great work and look forward to see more of great Queen stuff. > >Thank you for everything you have accomplished. How many accounts do you actually have these days Greggy Boy? |
| Stick 25.09.2019 13:40 |
And the usual retards have come out of the woodwork again to display how tough they are and how to redefine the term human waste. You have the chance to talk to the Queen archivist but instead take that chance to shout, moan, cry, curse and speak utter nonsense. Well done rats of Queenzone. Well done. |
| dudeofqueen 25.09.2019 15:06 |
Stick, re: >You have the chance to talk to the Queen archivist but instead take that chance to shout, moan, cry, curse and speak utter nonsense. Well done rats of Queenzone. Well done "The chance"? Fuck off. Don't be so bloody naive. Unless you're another GB Queenzone account, you'll have missed the continual visits here by this legendary sponge. I'm sure, if you bothered to read any of the threads that he's (ahem!) "contributed to" in the past, you can draw your own conclusions as to how he's entirely responsible for the level of vitriol levelled at him. Remember, you telling everyone how wonderful he is or how incredible it is to have contact with **THE ARCHIVIST** won't gain you anything whatsoever. Greggy-Boy makes appearances here as and when he needs something, be it information for an as-yet (and unlikely) unreleased project or his nuts tickled by the t-shirt-wearing-Lambert-praising mob. |
| Stick 25.09.2019 15:36 |
Been here for years and years and I know all about what you are referring to. I also know about how you post on this forum. You are one of those delusional people who see someone with a different opinion and think they know some hidden motivation behind it. And let's not forget the many times you acted like a child and still do. I have much more respect for someone like Greg than the retard you are. Like I said. Human waste. |
| Star* 25.09.2019 15:51 |
Some people on here moan over the slightest thing. I think this is a well written book and i own a copy and in fact i am half way through the book. It is in Freddie's words so that is good enough for me! Reading this book only makes me even more aware how Freddie had a vision how to get Queen massive, his leadership skills prove he was the one that directed that band with skill and determination to be the UKs biggest band ever ! King Mercury will always be the most important member of Queen. |
| dudeofqueen 25.09.2019 15:53 |
Stick, re: >You are one of those delusional people who see someone with a different opinion and think they know some hidden motivation behind it. I'm certainly not delusional. I''d love nothing more than for Greggy-Boy to pop up here and *add value* - he has added NOTHING yet taken credit for the work of others. He's been unable to accept any criticism; look at this thread - why not just put your hands up and say "You know what; yep. We got it wrong." He won't because in the weird world that is Queen, controlled by MayLor and Beechy-Boy, any criticism is a desecration of Freddie's memory. Childish, yeah, maybe but, hell's teeth, there's plenty of need to drop a few IQ points when communicating with many of the buffoons that populate this place. After all, I appear to have engaged you a number of times, so our "levels" are probably pretty close....... Retarded. Nope; not unless the above applies. >I have much more respect for someone like Greg Wow - this has to be a first....... And I'm utterly intrigued by the concept; why do you respect Greg? What has he done to deserve that respect? |
| cmsdrums 25.09.2019 17:40 |
Thanks for the response Greg. |
| Holly2003 25.09.2019 18:09 |
Stick wrote: You have the chance to talk to the Queen archivistWhat a time to be alive ... |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 25.09.2019 19:13 |
Holly2003 wrote:Yep – I remember being that naïve.Stick wrote: You have the chance to talk to the Queen archivistWhat a time to be alive ... |
| SweetCarolina 25.09.2019 23:45 |
ps. Its not fFeddie were talking to, its just a fan who got his ass into the Queen community. He NEVER appaered here on Queenzone, but when he made something ''''''new'''''', he's here to promote everything and everybody is than so excited. Cmon man, how old are we? What brought this ''archivist'' to us the last 10 years? Queen CD single box.... NOTHING NEW Queen Deluxe CDs...... 4 new songs? The Invisible Man demo, A Kind Of Vision, Diff version of Slightly Mad and Feelings.. What a rip off, what a change to put every demo on the cd... Queen LP box for €400,-.. I Mean what the fuck? Queen Rainbow Box.. Yeaah Finally one good thing. Queen Wembley 25th Anniversary... booooring Queen Days Of Our Lives DVD.... Goood!! Queen Hammersmith Box Yeaah not suprising but Goood. Queen Forever... Another compilation album Queen On Air Everybody has those recordings allready Queen NOTW box Where is the Houston concert? Roger Taylor The Lot. Good!! Freddie Mercury Barcelona Remake Boring Freddie Mercury the new book, copy past from the 2006 edition with 4 more pages (woohooo) Freddie Mercury single LP box Naaahh Freddie Mercury Never Boring................BORING Brian May.....NOTHING We are waiting for Hyde Park 1976 Earls Court 1977 Houston 1977 (Why not last year????) Paris 1978 Hammersmith 1979 Finally all the videos for KYA till No One But You in 4K!! Making off's Behind the scenes Demo's, Outtakes, Instrumentals STOP MILKING THE QUEEN FANS!!! |
| Makka 26.09.2019 02:13 |
SweetCarolina wrote: ps. Its not fFeddie were talking to, its just a fan who got his ass into the Queen community. He NEVER appaered here on Queenzone, but when he made something ''''''new'''''', he's here to promote everything and everybody is than so excited. Cmon man, how old are we? What brought this ''archivist'' to us the last 10 years? Queen CD single box.... NOTHING NEW Queen Deluxe CDs...... 4 new songs? The Invisible Man demo, A Kind Of Vision, Diff version of Slightly Mad and Feelings.. What a rip off, what a change to put every demo on the cd... Queen LP box for €400,-.. I Mean what the fuck? Queen Rainbow Box.. Yeaah Finally one good thing. Queen Wembley 25th Anniversary... booooring Queen Days Of Our Lives DVD.... Goood!! Queen Hammersmith Box Yeaah not suprising but Goood. Queen Forever... Another compilation album Queen On Air Everybody has those recordings allready Queen NOTW box Where is the Houston concert? Roger Taylor The Lot. Good!! Freddie Mercury Barcelona Remake Boring Freddie Mercury the new book, copy past from the 2006 edition with 4 more pages (woohooo) Freddie Mercury single LP box Naaahh Freddie Mercury Never Boring................BORING Brian May.....NOTHING We are waiting for Hyde Park 1976 Earls Court 1977 Houston 1977 (Why not last year????) Paris 1978 Hammersmith 1979 Finally all the videos for KYA till No One But You in 4K!! Making off's Behind the scenes Demo's, Outtakes, Instrumentals STOP MILKING THE QUEEN FANS!!!But it is not up to Greg to release these things. I'm sure he has no say in it at all. Does Greg get consulted as to what is available to be restored and released out of the vaults? I guess he would if he knows the contents well but only Greg can answer that. I'm sure those involved know what the real fans want because it's talked about on forums all over the net. Why they don't release it who knows? But attacking Greg probably doesn't help. Has anyone ever asked him if he's ever approached those with the power regarding releasing some of this stuff? |
| Kuijpy 26.09.2019 07:10 |
At least he can bring it up to the management I think. Im scared that the next release will be Queen - Wembley Power 4k. |
| Sunshine 26.09.2019 07:34 |
Kuijpy wrote: At least he can bring it up to the management I think. Im scared that the next release will be Queen - Wembley Power 4k.Do you really think that Jim, Brian and Roger include Greg in these kind of decision meetings? He can maybe hint something but I don't think he has a say in anything. And that is also my point: stop bashing this man even though you don't agree on the choices of releases. Be grateful that you are able to have direct contact with somebody from Queen Productions that can give you valuable information. Bashing someone will for sure not help. And another thing; we can moan as much as we want why Hyde Park or Houston 77 hasn't been released but look at all the beautiful restored content we got? You take it for granted but it is something extraordinary that Queen is putting so much love into their legacy. And yes, there might be bands that release more, but there are MANY bands that release much less or anything at all. Look at a band like Aerosmith for example. Whether you like them or not, they have a huge legacy and yet they haven't released anything from the 70's or 80's since 1991. And we all know how long ago 1991 is. Just think about that. Nothing released. And as Sweet Caroline nicely summed up, there are many releases from Queen that are of extreme value, even Wembley 1986. |
| dudeofqueen 26.09.2019 08:06 |
Sunshine, re: >Be grateful that you are able to have direct contact with somebody from Queen Productions that can give you valuable information. Bashing someone will for sure not help. He is NOT "from" Queen Productions. He's employed as a consultant and then used and discarded just like any other contractor. They have no loyalty to him in exactly the same way he has no loyalty to Queenzone or Queen fans themselves. He's the help........ He's been incredibly clever in manoeuvring his way in to the set up from the start in order to create his own collection. Many of us would have done exactly the same thing, don't get me wrong, but I'm sure we'd have been a little less bolshy and visible in doing so. |
| Sunshine 26.09.2019 08:17 |
dudeofqueen wrote: He's been incredibly clever in manoeuvring his way in to the set up from the start in order to create his own collection.Do you suggest he is taking Queen recordings home? |
| dudeofqueen 26.09.2019 09:26 |
Sunshine, re: >Do you suggest he is taking Queen recordings home? I do, yes. |
| Sunshine 26.09.2019 10:34 |
dudeofqueen wrote: Sunshine, re: >Do you suggest he is taking Queen recordings home? I do, yes.Without any proof you can not just accuse someone. And if you do have, then go to the police. |
| richrich 26.09.2019 12:32 |
@dudeofqueen: I can imagine you sitting at a table in a pub by yourself; wearing a Marvel cap, smoking a cigarette and wearing a pair of plastic tits as you smirk/smile at people nearby. |
| GB: Queen Archivist 26.09.2019 18:18 |
Hey there Stick... Why are you wasting your time with dudeofqueen? He's clearly a twat, not worthy of your time. He's another jealous sounding, resentful, bitter imbecile, who's never offered the world anything remotely useful, creative or constructive. Most of these things will have been said to him before, obviously, so this won't be news to him. You see too many individuals like him on this site. Move on. Leave the imbeciles behind you. Regards GB |
| RS_Protos 26.09.2019 20:42 |
GB, go back to bed and get some sleep, and when BM decides to release something worth while let us know(actually don't care if you let us know). |
| SweetCarolina 26.09.2019 22:56 |
GB, please leave Queenzone. And No We are not Jealous, because you've heard more Queen songs than us, get a life. |
| Negative Creep 26.09.2019 23:00 |
Can't believe people still try and engage with this bloke. Same thing over and over again. I couldn't give a fuck who he is - he acts like a troll. Really bad attitude. Funny that he is still obsessed with the forum though - I bet he reads it every day, but protests that he rarely does. Why post then at all?! He doesn't crop up to actually engage with anyone.... why would he be using a forum he apparently hates otherwise, yet doesn't post on the official forum? |
| dudeofqueen 27.09.2019 05:13 |
Greggy-Boy, re: >I can imagine you sitting at a table in a pub by yourself; wearing a Marvel cap, smoking a cigarette and wearing a pair of plastic tits as you smirk/smile at people nearby. Never smoked mate; it's a filthy habit. |
| dudeofqueen 27.09.2019 05:23 |
Greggy-Boy, re: >Hey there Stick... > >Why are you wasting your time with dudeofqueen? Ahhhhhh; that's so sweet - just like Babmi and her mum. >He's another jealous sounding, resentful, bitter imbecile, who's never offered the world anything remotely useful, creative or constructive. Most of these things will have been said to him before, obviously, so this won't be news to him. You see too many individuals like him on this site. So inaccuracies aren't just limited to the (ahem!) "work" you take money for, eh? However, what have *YOU* offered the world that has been useful other than other people's work? Now, this raises another question; are you Jimmy Page when he's off duty? As one of the most celebrated plagiarists and least prolific artists in rock history, separating private from public might be a tough gig........... You'd be surprised at what I've done and / or given to people, but the blowing of one's own trumpet hasn't ever sat too well with me. Mummy's calling you chap; time for your spaghetti hoops on toast....... |
| matt z 27.09.2019 07:41 |
Hahaha. The old bag's back for money. These ugly things get to be entertaining. I can understand the distaste.....having read these things for years. It's still sad that much of it's likely true. Keep being wishful, people. It keeps the site active during dry spells |
| Supersonic_Man89 27.09.2019 08:29 |
I don't see Greg doing much wrong here. I think he's come on and given reasons for why the book doesn't list sources, and I totally understand why for the extensive reasons he gives... and yeah, i think he's pretty spot on about the forum. It's become desolute in the past few years. Also, for all of those people who ferociously jump on Greg calling him a troll etc. isn't that pretty much what you're doing when you respond to his threads/posts like that. If you don't like him fine, but if he really is so terrible in your eyes why do you stoop to that level and instantly derail any thread he's involved in? I'm aware of some of the history between Greg and the board in the past, but it's a shame we couldn't put things to one side and be able to have a civil back and forth with the Queen Archivist. It could have been for the benefit of both of us. Cue abuse and posts advertising sneakers... |
| dudeofqueen 27.09.2019 09:23 |
Supersonic_Man89, re: >I'm aware of some of the history between Greg and the board in the past, but it's a shame we couldn't put things to one side and be able to have a civil back and forth with the Queen Archivist. It could have been for the benefit of both of us. And, you know what, you're right. However, Greggy-Boy has NEVER been able to accept and acknowledge his limitations / failures / inaccuracies or apologise for having taken other people's material and passed it off as his own whilst making money off of the back of it. Shit, even Jimmy Page and Robert Plant have done that......... If we take it back to the start of this thread: "Why didn't we offer the source for EVERY quote? We would have loved to do that - if it were possible - but it wasn't, unless you wanted to see a complete mass and mess of source stats and dates at the back of the book, which would have been even more boring and tedious than a post by dudeofqueen." Wouldn't it have been better if he'd re-worded it to read: "Why didn't we offer the source for EVERY quote? We would have loved to do that. We could have added footnotes to pages or an exhaustive list of sources and dates as an appendix at the back of the book but felt it would be a bit too cumbersome, which would have been even more boring and tedious than a post by dudeofqueen. We DO have that detail and we will be posting it here Win / win. But, in his time-honoured MO, up go the defences with absolute prejudice and offence taken. |
| SweetCarolina 27.09.2019 11:36 |
Nobody likes GB cause he's an arrogant asshole. He is only on QZ to promote some stuff, If somebody here has a question, he never gave an awnser. |
| dudeofqueen 27.09.2019 13:13 |
SweetCarolina, re: >He is only on QZ to promote some stuff Problem is, he only does half a job. Like any ten-a-penny terrorist, he's sneakily lays the mines and legs it; only popping up again to claim veiled responsibility and push his rhetoric. All of this is wedged in between taking Deliveroo orders for burgers and doughnuts. |
| Kuijpy 27.09.2019 17:13 |
True, i still remember him begging for some queen interviews here on QZ... For the Queen on Air Cd flop. |
| SpaceGrey 28.09.2019 12:40 |
Guys, I really don't understand why are you attacking on Greg Brooks. He's just an archivist. He does not decide on the release of a product.It all depends on the bosses of the company with which Queen signed a contract in 2011 and of course Jim Miami Beach(God Bless him) |
| Negative Creep 28.09.2019 16:47 |
SpaceGrey wrote: Guys, I really don't understand why are you attacking on Greg Brooks. He's just an archivist. He does not decide on the release of a product.Why are you mentioning this? The issue is that the guy comes on here and acts like a bellend, purely to get a reaction. He's clearly obsessed with this forum, and read it every day but then posts what he does. His next post will be to "joke" about the fact there is a general and a serious discussion section, or that people don't post using their real names, like it's 1998 or something. |